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A20303	A sparing restraint, of many lauishe vntruthes, which M. Doctor Harding do the chalenge, in the first article of my Lorde of Sarisburies replie. By Edward Dering student in Diuinitie. With an answere vnto that long, and vncourteous epistle, entituled to M. Juel, and set before M. Hardings Reioinder	Dering, Edward, 1540?-1576.	1568 (1568)	STC 6725; ESTC S108150	240,683	364

our aultar which is the onely foode of our soule euen Iesus Christ the righteous And this was figured in the offering of a red Cow whych God commaunded to be giuen to Eleazar the Priest and he should burne hir without the hoste with hir skyn and hir fleshe and hir blood and hir doong And Eleazar the high priest and the inferiour priest that burned hir shoulde washe their clothes and their flesh and be vncleane vntil Euen Likewise he that gathered the ashes of the Cowe should wash his clothes and his flesh and be vncleane vntill Euen No parte of it shoulde be reserued for the Priest whereby we are taught that the sacrifice of our sauiour Christ whereby his people are sanctified must be alone made with out any thinge appertaining either vnto the priest or tabernacle for which cause as S. Paul saith he suffered without the gate Let vs go forth therefore out of the camp bearing his reproch For we haue here no cōtinuing city but we séeke one to come Let vs therefore by him offer sacrifice of prayse alwayes to God that is the fruite of the lippes which confesse his name Let Massings and Massing garments go let the hill altars alone meddle not with Ieroboams golden calues to do it nowe were open blasphemy which before Christes cōming God had cōmaunmaunded our sauiour Christ is the truth it selfe He wyll not be coupled with the Tabernacle which is blinde shadowes Saint Paule maketh a playne seperation of the aultar and the Gospell where he disputeth for the maintenaunce of the Minister Doe ye not know sayth he that they which minister about the holy things eate of the things of the Temple and they which wayte at the aultar are partakers of the aultar So also hath the Lord ordeyned that they which preache the Gospell should lyue of the Gospell Which argument of the Apostle had not bene well gathered if the aultars shoulde haue bene in the Christian congregations The fourth heresie that is founde in this popish article is this that Christ is offered againe vnto his father S. Paule sayth no man taketh this honour vnto him but he that is called of God euen as was Aaron But no title in the woord of God that giueth vnto a mortall man this authority therefore they may not claime it And our sauiour Christ sayth to the Samaritan woman Beleue me the houre is come when neyther in Ierusalem neyther in this hill you shall worship the father but the true worshippers shall worship in spirite and verity For the father requireth euen suche to worship him God is a spirit and they that worship him must worship in spirit and truth But if Christ were really offered vp to his father there were a truer woorship than the worship of the spirite Againe S. Paule saith let them haue mysterium fidei the mysterye of faith in a pure conscience He would● doubtles haue saide mysterium sacrificij the mystery of this sacrifice of Christ shoulde yet oftener haue ben offred And S. Iames faith pure religion and vndefiled before God euen that father is this to visite the fatherles and widdowes in their aduersity and to kéepe him selfe vnspotted of the world But Maister Harding saith thus Our Religion must haue a sacrificing of Christ vnto his father and therfore we are assured that Maister Hardinges Religion is not pure and vndefiled The scriptures are full of such places which teach vs how to please God and take holde of saluation But in all those places no such sacrificing of Christ is mencioned and therfore to fancie any such imaginations is neither to please God nor to walke in that way which leadeth to saluation If this be not sufficient which is sufficient to a christian man we haue besides most certaine proofe which by no meanes can be coloured S. Paule saith where there is remission of sins there is no more offering for sinne but Christ hath alreadye forgiuen vs all our trespasses and put out the hand writing of ordinaunce which was against vs. c. And as saynt Peter sayth we are redeemed with the precious bloud of Christ as of a Lambe vndefiled and without spot And therefore Christ is not now offered for sinne And here appeareth moreouer the fift heresie in M. Hardings proposition For if Christ be not offered to his father neither any oblation for sinne is remayning then is there now no propitiatorie sacrifice but onely one which God hath already made vpon the aultar of the crosse And that this should be but once made it appeareth for that Aaron might but once in the yeare goe into the holy place within the vaile before the mercy seate where he made attonement for him selfe and for his house So speaketh S. Iohn of the sacrifice once made meaning it alone to be propitiatorie If any man sinne we haue an aduocate wyth God the father Iesus Christ the iust and he is the propitiation for our sinnes he maketh intercession before hys father he is not sacrificed on the altar Againe he sayth herein is loue not that we loued God but that he loued vs and sent his Sonne to be a propitiation for our sinnes When Christ made this propitiatorie sacrifice he was sent of his father and he was sent but once euen than as S. Paule sayth when the fulnesse of time was come Now is the time of his imbassage done He hath satisfied the law of God first toward his father in that he was obedient vnto death euen vnto y e death of the crosse thā toward his brethern in that he had that great loue that he gaue his life for his friendes from hence forth he ceaseth from that legacy and sittes at the right hande of his father in glory and maketh continuall intercession for vs. Therfore nowe his father doth no more send him and he wil not againe be sacrificed This is ynoughe if we were not dull of hearing to take from vs these vngodly deuises concerning any other propitiatory sacrifice than that which is already made But M. Harding and his fellowes that can so well peruerte the scriptures of God they haue many shiftes to defende their owne fancies This our sacrifice say they is no newe sacrifice but the same which Christ made yet Saint Paule saith it was one oblation and semel peracta but once made To this againe they aunswere that it was but once made bloudy but theirs is vnbloudy But the Apostle saith Absque sanguinis effusione non sit remissio without sheding of bloude there is no remission of sinnes what than auaileth this vnbloudy sacrifice But they saye further it is an application of the death of Christ. But the Apostle proueth that the sacrifices of the lawe were vnperfite bicause in them was a remembrance againe of sinnes euery yeare so there is now no such kinde of application They cannot possible so turne their deuises but the Apostle must

God God for his mercies sake once turne him agayne For now he doth nothing but hatch Cockatrices egges and weaueth the Spyders webbe Harding ¶ You seme to maruail how I became so perfite a Catholike in so shorte a time As you say I preached the contrary many yeares wherin you say vntruly For neither preached I ful two yeares and that not many Sermons neither was I priest before Quene Maries time So you pretend it to be an impossible thing that in seuen daies for of that tyme you speake more then once I should reade ouer all the Scriptures Counsels and Doctours as though a man by Gods speciall grace could not be turned from errour to truth whose hart was not stubbornlye set to mainteine a part nor yet drowned in manye errours vnlesse he first read ouer all bookes of Diuinitye What meane you M. Iewell Wil you appoint God a tracte of tyme to work in when he toucheth the hart of mā S. Ambrose could haue taught you to iudge otherwise wher he saith Nescit tarda moliminae sancti spiritus gratia Dering Now Maister Harding in a long discourse commeth again to his former matter and as the Poet saith sopitos suscitat ignes stirreth a broade againe the fire that was well raked vp and telleth vs a new cause of his tourning and that was Gods secrete inspiration and therto alleadgeth the sayings of Ambrose and Leo and the exampels of Elizeus Paul and Mathew As touching the grace of the holy Ghost I must needes confesse it néedeth no protracte of time It may make in one moment of a plough man a Prophet of a persecutour an Apostle of a Publicane a Disciple But shall Maister Harding therefore think that by the same spirit he was made of a preacher an apostata And for further proofe of this he telleth vs when he was made priest as though he had taken the charecter of the beast and fallen downe and worshipped hir by the mocion of the holy Ghost Better had Maister Harding stoode to his other causes that longer yeares gaue him more vnderstanding or the change of the Prince chaunged him or else he was conuerted by prayer then to make the holye ghost author of his euill doing But O miserable state of that man that shoulde be plunged thus in errours and yet séeth not his sinnes Such confidence had the Iewes in al their fornications that being stirred to repentaunce would deny their euill doing and saye wherein shall we returne Harding ¶ And why doe you charge me with the suddaine change of seuen dayes Was it not one whole yeare after king Edwardes death before I came in pulpit And did I not of myne owne accorde without all compulsion or request of others simply and fully acknowledge and confesse my former ouersight and errour Was not all the vniuersity of Oxforde witnesse hereof O Maister Iewel I doubt not but by that my voluntary and humble confession I haue put the Diuell to silence thorow the same He shall not haue power to obiect vnto me myne errour before Christ our Iudge in that dreadfull daye Dering Now least for all this trifling we shoulde accuse M. Harding of rashnes in fine he bringeth a whoole yeares deliberation But Lord what manner of defence is this After so long reasoning to proue nothing Was all this defence of a sodaine chaunge to excuse the thing hee neuer committed This was the first cloke for his turning If it shadowed it well why did he cast it of If it did not why doth he take it now againe Cast it away Maister Harding if you be happy your tourning and all and yet againe turne once for the better you haue not put the Diuell to silence with this turning our Lord deliuer you from him It is he that walketh through drye places and when he can finde no rest returneth thither againe from whence he was driuen out and as thoughe he had found you sweapt and garnished so after made his ingredience in your seuen folde wickednes You say Maister Iuels malice doeth séeme to passe the malice of the deuill But it is ynough for the Disciple to be as his Maister is and the seruaunt as the Lord. If they haue called the Maister of the house Beelzebub how much more them of his houshold The authority here brought of S. Cyprian is to little purpose But had you better considered that Epistle you would with better aduice haue spared the reuerence of that good Bishop You know what his name doth signifie And S. Cyprian saith this alwayes is the worke of the deuill that he should be lye the seruauntes of God and with false opinions gloriosum nomen infamet slaunder their glorious name that they which are very shining in the testimony of their owne conscience might be defiled with other mens reporte Wel God graunt vnto you according to Maister Iuells prayer Harding ¶ But what meant you Maister Iewel of all men thus vncourteously and with all verye falsly to deale with me Dering After all these deuices in defence of his owne dooing he fashioneth a new inuention against his aduersary and in long examination of his whole lyfe he hath espied in him once a little going back and of that would faine make a couer to hyde his owne apostasy And that this péece of the Epistle may be all lyke in it selfe he maketh the first entry with an open lye and saith Maister Iuell hath reported falsly of hys turning But the world is witnesse both of Maister Iuels saying and Maister Hardings doing But he goeth forwarde and asketh Maister Iuell this question Are not you one M. Iohn Iuell that once subscribed to certaine articles c. Why bringeth M. Harding this This is confessed in his aunswere to Doctour Cole Therfore I graunt Maister Harding it is euen he that when the anointed of the Lorde was taken in your ●ettes vnder whose shadow he shoulde haue ben preserued among the heathen he was scattered among the other shéepe till God turned his hand vpon his little ones to cary forth his name among the Gentiles But marke good Christian reader what this man hath espied in this Bishops lyfe He did once subscribe in S. Maries church in Oxford did not all Christes Disciples once forsake him in Ierusalem Did not Peter dissemble at Antioch Did not Paule shaue his head at Cenchrea did he not circumcise Timothy at Lystra Haue not all the serauntes of God Patriarches Prophets Apostles and martyrs done as much Is this the greatest fault you can laye to that good bishop that for feare of your tyranny he did ones write Iohn Iuel God be praysed that hath so directed y ● course of his seruant and God send vs all his spirit that do professe his Gospel that our liues may so answer our profession Now touching those disputations at Oxforde where Maister Harding saith the vttermost was heard that could be brought on our syde that is one among his other

is in vaine but that the oblation is in vaine making a great difference betwene his Masse and oblation But this matter doth not so well thriue as Maister Harding wéeneth his Masse and oblation must néedes be both one else how could his Masse be saide to be a sacrifice propitiatorie for quick and dead sith the sacrifice can onely be ment by the oblation But let vs take Maister Hardings words as they are The oblatiō saith he is in vaine to the people that will not come Here he speaketh not onely against his companions but against the Pope and against his Masse booke The decrée saith the oblation is good that is offred for Iudah and Ierusalem that is for them that cōfesse the Lord. And the masse booke saith Hanc oblationem offerimus pro ecclesia tua sancta catholica We offer this oblation for the whole catholike church Yet saith Maister Harding this oblation is in vaine If he him selfe will thus speake against Pope and portus he may peraduenture crack his Masse ere he be ware But it is well We take that Maister Harding graunteth except the people receiue the celebration or sacrifice made by y e priest is in vaine so his priuate Masse is quit● condemned The B. of Saris. If Maister Harding will stand vnto the authoritie of Chrysostome let him not dissemble but speake plaine vnto the people as Chrysostom spake Let him say to thē that come to heare his masse if ye receiue not ye are shamelesse ye are impudent you are not worthie to be partakers of the common prayers Depart you from the Church ye haue no more place here than Turks and heathens your eyes be vnworthy to see these things vnworthy be your eares our Masses can not profite you they are not meritorious for you they please not God they prouoke his anger they are all in vaine This is Chrysostomes sense and plaine meaning Harding The .207 vntruthe These are not his words The .208 vntruthe Nor his meaning Dering Héere I must craue of the indifferent Reader to note this manner of quoting vntruthes Of these very words of Chrysostome before he made two vntruthes the .202 and .203 Here of them all he maketh but one Yet if there be but one nowe there was but one afore and so one vntruthe is made thrée Againe before he made no vntruth as touching the meaning now he maketh one Yet if there be one now there was one afore so of two vntruthes which is very vnlike he will nūber but one againe in the .204 vntruthe he maketh but one vntruthe bothe of the words and meaning héere seuerally he maketh one of either this diuersitie of gathering must néedes shewe a matter of little waight Now as touching these two vntruthes and the wordes héere saide of maister Iuel he neither saith nor meaneth that they are al in Chrysostome But alleaging certaine as is shewed in the .202 vntruth he héere addeth more For example to shew the Massing priestes how they should speake vnto the people What troweth maister Harding to persuade the people that maister Iuel maketh Chrysostome to speake of their Masses Héere in these words the Masse is plainely named yet y e good father did neuer know what suche spirituall whoredomes did meane And yet héere M. Harding to cary away the readers vnderstanding in his railing spirite he speaketh great blasphemies against Gods electe and calleth him the forerunner of Antichrist whome God hath appointed one to be an ouer runner of the Romish Idolatries But God be praised in all his saints The B. of Saris. Now let vs examine this inuincible argument wherwith euery childe as Maister Harding saith is able to proue the priuate Masse Harding The .209 vntruthe I say not so let my booke be iudge Dering These are his woords of this most euident place of Chrysostome euery childe is able to make an inuincible argument against master Iuel for the priuate Masse these are his very w●ords I say as he saith let the booke be iudge and he that is found a lier let him haue the blame The B. of Saris. This is M. Hardings argument The sacrifice in Chrysostomes time was daily offred But many times none came to Communicate Ergo there was priuate Masse Heere the Maior is apparant false the Minor is proued at aduenture Harding The .210 vntruthe The Maior is true The .211 vntruthe The Minor is well proued Dering In the .133 vntruthe maister Iuel proued by S. Augustine ▪ that in some place the people receiued euery day there maister Harding dothe note that for vntrue héere maister Iuel proueth by S. Augustine that in some place they receiued not euerye day H●ere likewise maister Harding noteth this for vntrue And yet howe can bothe these be vntrue More circumspect behauioure in so false dealing hadde bene necessary Now as touching bothe these sayings of maister Iuel that somewhere the people did receiue euery day somewhere only on certaine dayes let S. Augustines woordes be witnesses Thus he wryteth The Sacrament of the body of Christ is receiued somewhere euery day alicubi certis inter●allis dierum somewhere on certaine dayes only As long as this aucthoritie may stande for good maister Iuels saying hath a good warrant And though it were not good yet maister Hardings two vntruthes must néedes one ouerthrow an other As touching this other vntruthe that none came to receiue with the priest sée whether it be proued at aduenture or no. Thus maister Harding saith if there were but fewe to Communicate in that great and famous Churche of Antioche what may be thought of a thousand lesser churches c. Nowe whether this proofe be at all aduentures and a bare gesse it is soone iudged Concerning Chrysostomes aucthority here read the Replie The B. of Saris. As for the Maior it is plaine by the .6 councell of Constantinople by S. Augustine vpon S. Iohn by S. Basil ad Caesariam patritiam by the Epistle of the councel of Alexandria in defence of Macarius and by the councell of Laodicea and by sundry other aucthorities to that purpose before al●eaged that the sacrifice was not daily offred Harding The .212 vntruthe S. Augustine hath the contrary Dering If S. August speake contraries he is sure the more to blame but who séeth not by S. Augustines plaine woordes in this former vntruthe alleaged that where he saith the sacrifice is daily offred it is to be ment of certaine places not of all This vntruthe is directly contrary to the 83.133.14-5.156 vntruthes But what skilleth that where M. Harding may be beleued Héere note that all these other aucthorities are cōtrolled and yet notwithstāding M. Harding presumeth vpō his vntruths Sure the number was appointed too large that coulde not be made vp without suche foule shifts The B. of Sarisb Maister Harding saw that this is but a slender proofe Chrysostome ministred euery day therfore he receiued alone Harding The .213 vntruth Maister Harding