Selected quad for the lemma: spirit_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	father_n	holy_a	trinity_n	9,904	5	10.2376	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A42574	The primitive fathers no papists in answer to the Vindication of the Nubes testium : to which is added an historical discourse concerning invocation of saints, in answer to the challenge of F. Sabran the Jesuit, wherein is shewn that invocation of saints was so far from being the practice, that it was expresly [sic] against the doctrine of the primitive fathers.	Gee, Edward, 1657-1730.	1688 (1688)	Wing G459; ESTC R18594	102,715	146

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be_v direct_o against_o and_o inconsistent_a with_o any_o invocation_n of_o saint_n century_n i_o s._n ignatius_n who_o live_v immediate_o after_o the_o apostle_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o philadelphian_o give_v the_o virgin_n of_o that_o church_n his_o advice_n to_o direct_v all_o their_o prayer_n to_o the_o bless_a trinity_n o_o you_o virgin_n say_v he_o have_v christ_n 〈◊〉_d christ_n ignat._n in_o ep._n ad_fw-la philadelph_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d alone_o before_o your_o eye_n and_o his_o father_n in_o your_o prayer_n be_v illuminate_v by_o the_o holy_a spirit_n if_o they_o be_v to_o direct_v all_o their_o prayer_n to_o the_o father_n and_o son_n i_o be_o sure_a it_o be_v against_o this_o doctrine_n of_o s._n ignatius_n to_o practice_v invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o direct_v some_o of_o their_o prayer_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o other_o saint_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n now_o do_v express_o against_o this_o first_o father_n advice_n century_n two_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n in_o their_o golden_a epistle_n concern_v the_o martyrdom_n of_o s._n polycarp_n give_v a_o account_n of_o the_o devil_n and_o the_o jew_n slander_v they_o as_o if_o they_o will_v have_v leave_v christ_n and_o worship_v polycarp_n if_o they_o can_v but_o gain_v his_o martyr_a body_n expose_v that_o gross_a calumny_n by_o show_v usser_n show_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d eccl._n smyrn_n in_o ep._n de_fw-fr martyr_n polyc._n p._n 27._o edit_fw-la usser_n that_o christian_n can_v never_o leave_v christ_n who_o have_v suffer_v all_o for_o they_o nor_o pay_v any_o worship_n to_o any_o other_o person_n or_o as_o the_o old_a latin_a translation_n have_v it_o nor_o offer_v up_o the_o supplication_n of_o prayer_n to_o any_o other_o person_n if_o they_o can_v not_o do_v it_o then_o i_o suppose_v it_o be_v not_o grow_v more_o lawful_a to_o do_v it_o since_o s._n irenaeus_n in_o the_o same_o century_n discourse_v about_o the_o many_o grace_n bestow_v by_o god_n upon_o his_o church_n and_o the_o great_a benefit_n do_v by_o the_o church_n to_o the_o whole_a world_n without_o either_o design_n of_o seduce_a or_o desire_v of_o gain_n thereupon_o say_v that_o as_o the_o church_n do_v receive_v those_o grace_n free_o from_o god_n hand_n so_o she_o free_o minister_v they_o fevardent_a they_o nec_fw-la invocationibus_fw-la angelicis_fw-la faciat_fw-la aliquid_fw-la nec_fw-la incantationibus_fw-la nec_fw-la aliqua_fw-la prava_fw-la curiositate_fw-la sed_fw-la mundè_fw-la &_o purè_fw-la &_o manifestè_fw-la orationes_fw-la dirigens_fw-la ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la qui_fw-la omne_fw-la fecit_fw-la &_o nomen_fw-la domini_fw-la nostri_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la invocans_fw-la virtutes_fw-la secundum_fw-la utilitates_fw-la hominum_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la seductionem_fw-la perficit_fw-la s._n iren._n adv_o haer._n l._n 2._o c._n 57_o edit_fw-la fevardent_a and_o then_o tell_v we_o also_o that_o the_o church_n do_v nothing_o by_o invocation_n of_o angel_n or_o charm_n or_o any_o such_o curious_a art_n but_o direct_v her_o prayer_n pure_o and_o manifest_o to_o her_o lord_n who_o make_v all_o thing_n and_o invocate_a the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n do_v those_o miracle_n for_o the_o good_a of_o mankind_n not_o for_o their_o seduction_n as_o irenaeus_n be_v plain_a for_o the_o prayer_n be_v direct_v only_o to_o god_n and_o his_o christ_n and_o do_v in_o express_a term_n deny_v that_o there_o be_v any_o invocation_n of_o angel_n practise_v in_o the_o church_n then_o so_o clemens_n of_o alexandria_n in_o the_o same_o century_n and_o not_o long_o after_o he_o be_v so_o express_v against_o any_o prayer_n be_v then_o put_v up_o to_o either_o saint_n or_o angel_n that_o he_o define_v prayer_n itself_o to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o converse_v with_o god_n which_o have_v be_v a_o very_a false_a definition_n have_v prayer_n then_o be_v put_v up_o to_o saint_n and_o angel_n also_o but_o clemens_n have_v reason_n sufficient_a to_o define_v prayer_n in_o this_o manner_n to_o the_o exclusion_n both_o of_o saint_n and_o angel_n since_o in_o the_o same_o book_n he_o deliver_v it_o for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o his_o time_n that_o 7._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d clemens_n alexandr_n strom._n l._n 7._o since_o there_o be_v but_o one_o good_a god_n both_o we_o and_o angel_n ought_v to_o make_v our_o prayer_n to_o he_o alone_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o those_o good_a thing_n which_o we_o want_v and_o for_o the_o continuance_n of_o those_o which_o we_o enjoy_v there_o be_v a_o great_a many_o more_o such_o expression_n to_o be_v meet_v with_o in_o this_o learned_a father_n but_o this_o doubtless_o be_v able_a to_o convince_v any_o reasonable_a person_n that_o in_o clemens_n time_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n be_v that_o all_o prayer_n or_o invocation_n shall_v be_v offer_v up_o to_o the_o great_a god_n alone_o century_n iii_o that_o there_o be_v no_o alteration_n make_v in_o the_o next_o century_n in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n herein_o we_o can_v easy_o show_v from_o the_o most_o considerable_a writer_n of_o that_o age._n tertullian_n in_o his_o apology_n for_o the_o christian_n to_o the_o roman_a judge_n give_v a_o account_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o christian_n that_o they_o do_v invocate_v the_o eternal_a god_n for_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o emperor_n and_o acquaint_v they_o withal_o that_o they_o dare_v not_o offer_v up_o their_o prayer_n to_o any_o other_o 30._o other_o nos_fw-la enim_fw-la pro_fw-la salute_v imperatorum_fw-la deum_fw-la invocamus_fw-la aeternum_fw-la haec_fw-la ab_fw-la alio_fw-la orare_fw-la non_fw-la possum_fw-la quàm_fw-la à_fw-la quo_fw-la i_o scio_fw-la consecuturum_fw-la quoniam_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la solus_fw-la praestat_fw-la &_o ego_fw-la sum_fw-la cvi_fw-la impetrare_fw-la debetur_fw-la famulus_fw-la ejus_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la solum_fw-la observo_fw-la qui_fw-la propter_fw-la disciplinam_fw-la ejus_fw-la occidor_n qui_fw-la ei_fw-la offero_fw-la opimam_fw-la &_o majorem_fw-la hostiam_fw-la quam_fw-la ipse_fw-la mandavit_fw-la orationem_fw-la de_fw-la carne_fw-la pudica_fw-la de_fw-la anima_fw-la innocenti_fw-la de_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la profectam_fw-la tertul._n apologet._n c._n 30._o i_o can_v say_v he_o pray_v for_o these_o thing_n to_o any_o other_o but_o to_o he_o at_o who_o hand_n i_o be_o certain_a of_o obtain_v they_o since_o it_o be_v he_o alone_a that_o do_v afford_v they_o and_o i_o alone_o have_v a_o right_n of_o obtain_v they_o that_o be_o his_o servant_n and_o observe_v he_o alone_o who_o be_o kill_v for_o his_o religion_n and_o do_v offer_v unto_o he_o that_o rich_a and_o best_a sacrifice_n which_o he_o himself_o have_v command_v prayer_n proceed_v from_o a_o chaste_a body_n from_o a_o innocent_a soul_n and_o holy_a spirit_n in_o his_o prescription_n the_o same_o father_n tell_v we_o 33._o idem_fw-la de_fw-la prescript_n c._n 33._o that_o the_o serve_v or_o worship_v of_o angel_n bring_v in_o first_o by_o simon_n magus_n be_v reckon_v to_o be_v idolatry_n in_o consider_v these_o passage_n of_o tertullian_n i_o can_v believe_v that_o he_o and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v of_o the_o same_o faith_n as_o to_o this_o very_a thing_n about_o prayer_n i_o be_o sure_a this_o doctrine_n of_o he_o be_v no_o less_o than_o heresy_n in_o some_o part_n of_o the_o world_n and_o that_o tertullian_n and_o the_o honest_a monk_n who_o translate_v s._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n or_o to_o speak_v more_o intelligible_o thomas_n a_o becket_n life_n into_o english_a metre_n be_v not_o of_o the_o same_o church_n tertullian_n tell_v the_o roman_n that_o the_o christian_n of_o his_o time_n offer_v up_o their_o prayer_n to_o god_n alone_o for_o the_o welfare_n of_o the_o emperor_n and_o empire_n and_o that_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o god_n will_n for_o they_o to_o offer_v up_o any_o prayer_n to_o any_o other_o but_o this_o romish_a monk_n be_v of_o 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wheresoever_o such_o a_o one_o shall_v address_v to_o god_n he_o will_v answer_v he_o and_o this_o same_o father_n in_o his_o question_n out_o of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n insist_o upon_o the_o same_o argument_n tell_v the_o heathen_n that_o the_o christian_n 1616._o christian_n christiani_n autem_fw-la unum_n deum_fw-la colunt_fw-la in_o mysterio_fw-la ex_fw-la quo_fw-la sunt_fw-la omne_fw-la nec_fw-la aliquid_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la conditum_fw-la est_fw-la venerantur_fw-la ipsum_fw-la enim_fw-la solum_fw-la sufficere_fw-la sibi_fw-la &_o abundare_fw-la sciunt_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la non_fw-la ignorantes_fw-la quia_fw-la si_fw-la gloriam_fw-la &_o nomen_fw-la ejus_fw-la aliis_fw-la deputaverint_fw-la offendant_fw-la eum_fw-la quia_fw-la nullus_fw-la imperator_fw-la permittit_fw-la ut_fw-la cum_fw-la nomine_fw-la ejus_fw-la tribuni_fw-la &_o comites_fw-la adorentur_fw-la idem_fw-la lib._n quaestionum_fw-la vet._n &_o nou._n testam_fw-la apud_fw-la augustini_fw-la opera_fw-la in_o appendice_fw-la ad_fw-la tom._n 4._o p._n 46._o edit_fw-la colon._n 1616._o worship_n one_o god_n in_o mystery_n from_o who_o be_v all_o thing_n and_o do_v not_o pay_v any_o veneration_n to_o any_o thing_n create_v by_o he_o here_o be_v no_o exception_n either_o for_o angel_n or_o saint_n much_o less_o for_o their_o relic_n or_o image_n for_o they_o know_v that_o he_o alone_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a for_o their_o salvation_n and_o be_v not_o ignorant_a that_o if_o they_o give_v his_o glory_n and_o his_o name_n to_o other_o they_o offend_v he_o since_o no_o emperor_n do_v permit_v that_o his_o tribune_n and_o officer_n be_v adore_v together_o with_o himself_o s._n basil_n do_v look_v upon_o prayer_n to_o be_v so_o peculiar_a to_o god_n that_o he_o define_v prayer_n to_o be_v a_o request_n of_o some_o good_a which_o be_v make_v by_o pious_a man_n unto_o god_n 370._o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d basil_n homil._n in_o julitt_n t._n 1._o p._n 370._o and_o his_o brother_n gregory_n nyssen_n give_v the_o same_o definition_n of_o prayer_n which_o clemens_n alexandrinus_n have_v that_o it_o be_v a_o converse_v with_o god_n 715._o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d greg._n nyssen_n 1._o orat._n the_o oratione_fw-la p._n 715._o and_o in_o another_o place_n give_v we_o almost_o the_o same_o definition_n of_o prayer_n that_o s._n basil_n do_v that_o prayer_n be_v a_o request_n of_o some_o good_a thing_n 724._o thing_n idem_fw-la orat._n 2._o the_o oratione_fw-la dominica_n p._n 724._o which_o be_v offer_v with_o supplication_n to_o god._n now_o have_v prayer_n to_o angel_n or_o saint_n beeen_n either_o the_o practice_n or_o the_o doctrine_n of_o this_o age_n in_o which_o these_o father_n live_v both_o s._n basil_n and_o his_o brother_n definition_n of_o prayer_n have_v be_v ridiculous_a and_o false_a since_o they_o make_v prayer_n peculiar_a to_o god_n alone_o whereas_o it_o will_v have_v be_v common_a to_o god_n and_o the_o saint_n have_v these_o be_v pray_v to_o as_o well_o as_o god_n in_o those_o day_n i_o need_v not_o insist_v much_o upon_o what_o gregory_n nyssen_n say_v in_o his_o five_o oration_n against_o eunomius_n that_o we_o be_v command_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n not_o to_o worship_v any_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v create_v but_o that_o we_o be_v to_o worship_n and_o adore_v that_o nature_n only_o which_o be_v uncreate_v since_o we_o have_v clear_v this_o sufficient_o above_o from_o origen_n and_o other_o s._n ambrose_n be_v the_o last_o father_n that_o i_o will_v urge_v in_o this_o four_o century_n he_o agree_v with_o the_o precedent_n father_n about_o the_o nature_n of_o prayer_n and_o do_v deny_v to_o angel_n and_o saint_n the_o have_v any_o prayer_n put_v up_o to_o they_o in_o that_o short_a but_o comprehensive_a passage_n notwithstanding_o thou_o alone_o o_o lord_n be_v to_o be_v invocate_v thou_o be_v to_o be_v entreat_v that_o thou_o 59_o thou_o sed_fw-la tamen_fw-la tu_fw-la solus_fw-la domine_fw-la invocandus_fw-la tu_fw-la rogandus_fw-la ut_fw-la eum_fw-la in_o filiis_fw-la repraesentes_fw-la d._n ambros_n orat._n in_o obitu_fw-la theodosii_fw-la tom._n 3._o p._n 59_o will_v represent_v he_o to_o wit_v the_o dead_a emperor_n theodosius_n in_o his_o son_n century_n v_o i_o be_o now_o arrive_v at_o the_o five_o century_n of_o the_o church_n and_o must_v inquire_v whether_o in_o this_o age_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n be_v alter_v from_o what_o we_o have_v show_v it_o to_o in_o the_o four_o precedent_a century_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o saint_n s._n epiphanius_n do_v make_v the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n to_o be_v the_o heresy_n of_o the_o angelick_n but_o those_o people_n have_v very_o hard_a measure_n from_o that_o father_n if_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v not_o as_o much_o a_o heresy_n since_o if_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o invocate_v the_o one_o of_o these_o two_o the_o angel_n ought_v to_o have_v have_v the_o preference_n since_o as_o they_o be_v god_n minister_a spirit_n they_o see_v and_o hear_v we_o whereas_o the_o depart_a saint_n do_v neither_o see_v nor_o hear_v we_o the_o same_o father_n in_o his_o confutation_n of_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o collyridians_n conclude_v full_o against_o the_o worship_n of_o any_o creature_n for_o neither_o be_v elias_n to_o be_v worship_v though_o he_o be_v reckon_v 1062._o reckon_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ἡμαρια_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ὁ_n κυριος_n προσκυνεισθω_fw-gr epiphan_n haer._n 79._o p._n 1062._o among_o the_o live_n nor_o john_n nor_o any_o other_o of_o the_o saint_n that_o ancient_a error_n shall_v not_o prevail_v over_o you_o to_o forsake_v the_o live_a god_n and_o to_o worship_v the_o thing_n which_o be_v make_v by_o him._n for_o they_o serve_v and_o worship_v the_o creature_n more_o than_o the_o creator_n and_o become_v fool_n for_o if_o god_n will_v not_o have_v we_o to_o worship_v the_o angel_n how_o much_o more_o will_v he_o not_o have_v we_o to_o worship_v she_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o anna._n let_v mary_n be_v have_v in_o honour_n but_o let_v the_o lord_n be_v worship_v and_o in_o his_o confutation_n of_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o arian_n he_o do_v prove_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n from_o his_o be_v worship_v for_o if_o say_v he_o 759._o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epiphan_n haer._n 69._o p._n 755_o 759._o he_o be_v not_o true_a god_n neither_o be_v he_o to_o be_v worship_v and_o if_o he_o be_v a_o creature_n he_o be_v no_o god_n and_o if_o he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v worship_v how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o he_o be_v call_v god_n for_o it_o be_v a_o foolish_a thing_n to_o make_v a_o creature_n god_n and_o to_o reject_v the_o first_o commandment_n which_o say_v thou_o shall_v worship_v the_o lord_n thy_o god_n and_o he_o only_o shall_v thou_o serve_v whereupon_o the_o holy_a church_n of_o god_n do_v not_o worship_v a_o creature_n but_o the_o beget_v son_n the_o father_n in_o the_o son_n and_o the_o son_n in_o the_o father_n with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n i_o appeal_v to_o all_o man_n of_o sense_n whether_o this_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n from_o his_o be_v worship_v have_v not_o be_v the_o vain_a and_o most_o frivolous_a that_o ever_o be_v use_v have_v saint_n or_o angel_n be_v worship_v in_o those_o day_n have_v they_o have_v prayer_n put_v up_o unto_o they_o which_o be_v the_o high_a expression_n of_o worship_n s._n chrysostom_n do_v define_v prayer_n as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n have_v do_v before_o he_o and_o say_v genesim_fw-la say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d d._n chrysost_o hom._n 30._o in_o genesim_fw-la that_o prayer_n be_v a_o discourse_v with_o god_n and_o up_o and_o down_o his_o work_n he_o do_v frequent_o urge_v it_o upon_o man_n to_o go_v direct_o to_o god_n himself_o and_o to_o make_v their_o prayer_n unto_o him._n when_o say_v he_o we_o have_v any_o suit_n to_o make_v to_o man_n we_o have_v need_n of_o 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