Selected quad for the lemma: spirit_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	father_n	holy_a	trinity_n	9,904	5	10.2376	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15418	Limbo-mastix: that is, A canuise of Limbus Patrum shewing by euident places of Scripture, inuincible reasons, and pregnant testimonies of some ancient writers, that Christ descended not in soule to Hell, to deliuer the Fathers from thence. Containing also a briefe replie to so much of a pamphlet lately published, intituled, An answere to certaine obiections against the descension &c. as lookes that way, and is personally directed against some writers of our Church.	Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621.	1604 (1604)	STC 25692; ESTC S120030	49,797	70

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father_n that_o speak_v in_o you_o matth._n 10._o 20_o ignorance_n do_v the_o evangelist_n confound_v the_o person_n of_o the_o trinity_n be_v not_o the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o well_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n as_o of_o his_o father_n do_v he_o not_o proceed_v equal_o from_o they_o both_o this_o objection_n then_o either_o savour_v of_o error_n or_o bewray_v ignorance_n augustine_n can_v have_v give_v he_o a_o solution_n of_o this_o doubt_n if_o he_o have_v consult_v with_o he_o for_o both_o the_o son_n be_v a_o spirit_n in_o 99_o the_o substance_n of_o his_o deity_n and_o what_o do_v the_o son_n without_o the_o holy_a spirit_n or_o the_o father_n when_o the_o work_n of_o the_o trinity_n be_v inseparable_a either_o of_o these_o answer_n may_v have_v satisfy_v he_o 2._o you_o still_o misreport_v he_o that_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o great_a mote_n in_o your_o eye_n one_o may_v well_o return_v hieromes_n word_n upon_o you_o you_o be_v towards_o other_o as_o blind_a as_o a_o mole_n towards_o 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christ_n separate_v from_o the_o body_n ans._n pag._n 7._o ans._n 1._o we_o rather_o affirm_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v take_v here_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o life_n the_o cause_n for_o the_o effect_n than_o by_o a_o synecdoche_n the_o part_n for_o the_o whole_a and_o that_o the_o soul_n be_v take_v for_o the_o life_n separate_v from_o the_o body_n be_v evident_a by_o these_o place_n before_o allege_a exod._n 21._o 23._o life_n he_o shall_v give_v soul_n for_o soul_n that_o be_v life_n for_o life_n his_o life_n shall_v be_v take_v from_o he_o so_o numb_a 23._o 10._o let_v my_o soul_n die_v the_o death_n of_o the_o righteous_a here_o the_o soul_n separate_v from_o the_o body_n be_v take_v for_o the_o life_n for_o the_o soul_n die_v not_o nor_o yet_o the_o life_n cease_v not_o as_o long_o as_o the_o soul_n be_v in_o the_o body_n 2._o though_o david_n do_v prophesy_v of_o christ_n yet_o so_o as_o he_o speak_v in_o his_o own_o person_n as_o a_o type_n of_o christ_n so_o 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