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B21542	A musick-lector, or, The art of musick (that is so much vindicated in Christendome) discoursed of by way of dialogue between three men of several judgments the one a musician and master of that art, and zealous for the Church of England ..., the other a Baptist ..., the other a Quaker (so called) ... / written by Solomon Eccles.	Eccles, Solomon, 1618-1683.	1667 (1667)	Wing E129	22,469	30

the question now but if you will not tell me where he dwells then tell me his name that I may find him out What call you his Name Qu. His Name is called The Word of God Rev. 19. 13. Mu. What a strange man are you what an Answer is this why do you answer so crosly I took you for a wise man once but are you not now turned fool But I have heard of such a Name well if his Name be called The Word of God it is a far better Name in my opinion than Solomon the King but I hope you will not be angry for Quakers do not use to be angry Qu. Nay I am not angry with thee one whit for thou hast spoke the Truth and there is witness born both in Heaven and in Earth to this Name for he whose Name is called The Word of God is a far more excellent Name then Solomon the King for every Name and power in heaven and earth shall bow and must bow to this Name Read Acts 4. 12. Phil. 2. 4 10. Mu. But pray Friend doth he prick Plain-Song or Intableture for if he prick Plain-Song I do not fear but I shall learn it Qu. He pricks very plain for every Note is as easily seen as a white Sembrif or Minnom John 16. 15. Mu. Truly I am glad to hear that you Quakers speak comfortably sometimes though it is but seldom it joys me much for now I hope I shall learn that Lesson that God is well pleased with But where doth he prick his Notes Qu. He pricks at the Heart and brings his pure Light into the Conscience that thou and all the men and women in the world may read yea that they that run on in their wickedness may read because the Book of Conscience is open that all men may see how 't is with them and may come to see who they have pierced And thus men begin to mourn their parts and their wives apart and this takes more in the ears of the Lord than all the Babylonish Worship and Musick in the world Acts 2. 37. Zech. 12. 12. Mat. 5. 4 Mu. Now wo is me is it come to this my hopes are frustrated Is there no way but I must come in at this door Well I do perceive that the Quakers preach not for gold nor silver for if you did you would never preach after this manner for who can take any pleasure in this Doctrine I see now what you drive at for when Peter preacht to the Jewes he told them that they had murdered and betrayed him whom God had made both Lord and King And when they heard this they were pricked at their hearts crying out Men and Brethren what shall we do Truly I do believe there be but few Musitians that ever learnt this Lesson Qu. Mind the gift of God in thy heart Christ Jesus the true Teacher and prize thy pretious time that it may be blessed to thee remember how that he hath waited on thee long O prize the long-suffering of the Lord for it is high time for thee now to return Rom. 2. 4. Mu. Would to God I were of any other Calling for I verily believe that God will overthrow all pleasant things and all false Worship I am sorry I have lived so vainly Bap. I could like the Quakers well if they did not despise the Ordinances as Water-Baptisme and Bread and Wine which are the two Sacraments Qu. Who gave you Baptists Commission to Baptize men and women with Water God never sent you yet you run but God sent John to Baptize with Water and some of his Apostles did it in their freedom and who gave you Commission to eat Bread and to drink Wine The Lord Jesus gave it to his Disciples but whose Disciples are you Ye please your belly and your Faith is of things that are seen but we look not at the things that are seen for they are Carnal but the things that are not seen are Eternal But Bread Wine and Water are seen No marvel that you love good Bread and good Wine and cry them up for Ordinances but if in its place you would put bread of Affliction and water of Affliction till he came and come every First Day to eat this bread of affliction and water of affliction you would not cry up your Ordinances so much as you do neither would you have the tenth part of Communicants as you have Are you not ashamed to intrude into those things you have no Commission for Poor David would not meddle with things that were too high for him Psal 131. 1. But when did you Baptists witness Davids state My tears have been my meat day and night Psal 42. 3. And again I have eaten ashes like bread and mingled my drink with weeping Psal 102. 9. And when did you Baptists fast till men might tell your bones as some of the Quakers have done Are you any better than Queen Elizabeths Fidlers that turned the holy sayings of David into Meeter Hymn and Verse O be ashamed and come to the Light and that will let you see how you have lept above the Life of Christ and his Disciples Come down ye exalted Spirits to the lowly Seed and Learn of him that is meek and low in heart Bap. Did not the Lord command his Apostles to Baptize all Nations in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy Ghost Qu. Yea that he did But who gave you Commission to Baptize any Besides you are blind Guides indeed to go and Baptize with Water and bring the Apostles Commission for it and there was no Water at all in it And Christ himself Baptized none with Water for he was not sent to Baptize with Water but with the Holy Ghost And Paul was not sent to Baptize with Water but to Preach the Gospel But you Baptists were never yet slain you never yet put on the Lord Jesus Christ When did you put on his Sufferings and Sorrows and how are you killed all the day For if you were slain with Christ from the Rudiments of the World why as living in the World are ye subject to Ordinances Surely you do not believe that Christ is come Gal. 3. 27. Bap. Nay We do not believe that Christ is come though we do believe he did once come but we look for him to come the second time Qu. He that believeth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is Antichrist and thou sayest thou dost not believe that Christ is come because thou lookest not where he is manifest in the flesh but thou lookest for him without And Is not Christ in thee except thou be a Reprobate 1 John 4. 3. Col. 1. 27. Bap. Doth not the Text say Ye men of Galilee why stand ye gazing up to Heaven this same Jesus which you now see go into Heaven shall so come in like manner as ye see him Qu. Friend Leave off thy gazing for they were reproved that gazed But come

that they are the true Ministers of Christ that turn people from darkness to Light and from the power of Satan to God Act. 26. 28. Mu. I must confess our Ministers are great Scholars as Oxford and Cambridge can afford and we look upon such to be the Ministers of the Gospel and none else but yet I cannot say they turn people from their sins But pray are there no true Ministers of Christ but they Qua. Nay none can be said to be Ministers of Christ but such as turn people to the Lord. Mu. Why who then did send them came they of themselves Qu. I never sent them saith the Lord yet they run but they shall not profit the people at all Jer. 23. 22. Mu. Truly I think they have been much better than they are now Qua. Yea they have lost their Courage their Faith and their Zeal and some of them have spued up the Common-Prayer-Book in their Zeal but now they have many of them lickt it up again See what the Prophet calls such Isa 56. 10. Mu. Indeed our Ministers do love their bellies too well to be the Ministers of Christ Truly Friend I cannot speak much for them I see they feed their flock but sparingly but themselves they feed without fear I think for they grow in belly amain but what shall I say when such men as they go wrong what shall become of me that am a sinner Qua. Believe in the Light that shines in thy heart for that Teacher will never deceive thee but will make thee wiser than all thy Teachers Psal 119. 99 100. Mu. Your counsel is good but me-thoughts you were a very honest man and strict before you were a Quaker if I were so I should desire no more Qu. I had a Zeal but not according to Knowledge and all that I have given up to the Bats and to the Moles such as come not forth to look on the Sun for fear of persecution Joh. 10. 1. 1 Tim. 2. 3 12. Isa 2. 20. Mu. 'T is good to avoid Persecution as near as we can for the Scriptures advise us so to do Qu. The Thief and the Robber would climb up some other way but all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer Persecution 2 Tim. 3. 12. Mu. But Christ sayes If they persecute you in one City flee into another Qu. Before the Holy Ghost was given which was the promise of the Father they were more in fear and in the Childs state till our Lord and Master was offered up for a pattern to them then the same Spirit of Christ came into them and made them of the same mind for holy boldness and courage and they loved not their lives to the death and as Christ suffered in the flesh they do arm themselves with the same mind 1 Pet. 4. 1. Mu. Well but my Friend I have something else to say to you and I will leave these things to my Friend here who is better able to answer you than I can But pray let me ask you one question Qua. Use thy freedom Mu. Why did you forsake and dispise so harmless a Calling and Practice in the Art of Musick as you have done Besides you burnt and brake many good Instruments of Musick and burnt your Books of great price and value and why did you burn and break them at Tower-Hill I thought to tell you of it for it was an injurious thing to make our Calling contemptible And it is well known that Musick is the gift of God and an honourable practice I wonder you were not ashamed a man that lived so well and civilly to go and cast off such a Livelihood who maintained your Wife and Family very well and in good order and it is very probable if you had continued you had been of great esteem at this day Qua. I have found out the true Teacher who teaches the best Musick that ever any did learn who for rarity and skill out-strips all that ever had a name and such Musick as takes in the ears of God himself Jer. 9. 24. Mu. Lord bless me is there such a rare Musick-teacher among the Quakers I have heard indeed that the Quakers will come together in one place and sit an hour two or three and not speak a word one to another except sigh groan or weep do you call this good Musick Bap. Pray Friend what ground of Scripture have you to come together where some do sigh and groan and some do weep What Edification is there in this dumb show Qua. The Spirit breathes in whom it listeth and thou mayest hear the sound thereof but knowest not from whence it comes nor whither it goes John 3. Bap. Did you ever hear such Nonsense as this man speaks what strange stuff is this did I not tell you Sir what Nonsense we should have Qua. Are the Scriptures Nonsense Mu. Hold hold my Friend and be not offended at him for he hath spoke Scripture only some Translations do much differ Bap. All that I grant is true but what Scripture hath he to prove that Silent-meeting is a Worship of God Qua. The three Friends of Job when they beheld what misery he lay in they lift up their voice and wept and rent their cloaths indeed and sat down on the ground with him but spake nothing one to another for seven dayes and seven nights Job 2. last yet I do not bring this as a proof Mu. Indeed it was a long time for men to keep silence seven dayes and seven nights and not speak a word there was never such a thing done in our days I must confess but Job was a patient man Qua. I would ask thy Friend one Question and if he be free to answer me then the thing will appear more plain Mu. I 'le warrant hee 'l answer you for he is an able man and though he and I do differ I must confess in judgement yet I know he is able to answer you for he is a baptized person and stands for the vindication of Baptism and the Lord's Supper which are the Ordinances of God Qua. And I also stand in the defence of the holy Truth of God which was once delivered to the Saints Jude 3. Bap. Well Friend what 's your Question Qua. Who is it that tempts men to sin and to disobedience Bap. That is soon answered for he that tempts men to sin is the Devil Qua. Thou hast rightly answered for God tempts no man to sin neither is he tempted of any but every man when he is tempted is drawn away of his own lust and enticed and when lust hath conceived it brings forth sin and sin when it is finished brings forth death Jam. 1. 14 15. Bap. All that is true you have answered your self Qua. Then this is the Question By what means is it by a vocal voice or outward sound that he teaches men to sin Bap. Nay I do believe that the Devil is a spirit and doth not teach men to sin by