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A85712	The Quaker's Jesus: or, The unswadling of that child James Nailor, which a wicked toleration hath midwiv'd into the world. Discovering the principles of the Quakers in general. In a narrative of the substance of his examination, and his disciples, as it was taken from their own mouthes, in their answer before the magistrates of the city of Bristol; also, of his examination in the painted chamber Westminster, and the management of it in Parliament, now published for the satisfaction of himself and some Christian friends. By William Grigge, (citizen of Bristol) who believes in that Jesus (and him alone for salvation) that was crucified at Jerusalem, above sixteen hundred years agoe.	Grigge, William.	1658 (1658)	Wing G2023; Thomason E942_2; ESTC R207579	61,372	85

Israel and the Horsemen thereof And further let me say Blessed be God these Blasphemies and Errors are well answered and confuted by some able godly Ministers whose Doctrine and manner of life we have known As by those 5. godly Ministers of New Castle in a Book called The Perfect Pharisee Also Mr. William Thomas Minister of the Gospel at Ubley And by Mr. Christopher Fowler and Mr. Symon Ford of Reading Mr. Ralph Farmer of Bristol and Mr. Baxter of Kidderminster whose solid sharp yet sweet Epistle to the Separatists and Anabaptists in England is worthy serious observation in his Book called The Quakers Catechism Now of those solid judicious Answers of these holy men of God we may truly say as Job speaks How forcible are right words And as truly of their Adversaries the words following But what doth your arguing reprove And indeed Brethren some had need undertake it For I dare say If all the errors that proceeded from all the Hereticks since Christ's incarnation did appear together we should see this our Toleration have produced them as may be seen in James Nailor and his Disciples let him therefore be Jezabel if you will not Jesus as they blasphemously call him And that you may see somewhat more of their wickedness I shall here insert a passage which doth declare not only their actions deserving but also their expressions reproaching the due execution of Justice upon them Upon the 5th of February 1656. one Lewes Harris a Quaker having been in the Countrey came home to his House in Bristol and there meets with one William Hill a Brother of that Fryery who amongst other discourse askt the said Harris why he sell from his principles meaning as he was a Quaker He answers that he should not account for him but they further discoursing of their pure Religion Ranting and quaking at last their words came to blowes and Harris murders Hill for which murder he was Aug. 13th 1657. in Bristol arraigned and condemned and the 31. day executed Thus having such wicked principles they both came to this untimely and shameful end This Harris had a Letter from some Quakers which he when he was upon the Gallowes convey'd to a godly Minister there attending to exhort him to mind his condition the Minister having received it tore it presently in pieces upon which some Quakers that were then present said What will ye persecute to the death Thus calling this just execution for murder persecution And my Brethren Is not this also to be bewailed that such liberty should be given to a people of such principles who would not have murderers executed but call it persecution When the Government by Bishops was taken away though its supposed it would have been better for the Nation if that counsel given by that Reverend Father and learned Doctor of our Church Bishop Usher Primate of Ireland had been taken as it was tendered in 4. Propositions to the Parliament in the year 1641 for the reduction of Episcopacy into the form of Synodical Government After that time there came forth a little thing called Lambeth Fair where you might have bought many Surplices Hoods Coapes Caps and variety of such knacks and need-nots very reasonable I confess that in that Government there were many things which my low apprehension saw no need of As that there should be 24. Diocesan Lord Bishops that they should have 24 Chancellors 24 Registers with their men 48. Proctors 120. Apparitors at leaft and many more then a good many The whole number appertaining to Arch-bishops Bishops Arch-deacons with the rest belonging to them are judged to be no fewer than ten thousand persons which at but 20li per Annum a man is two hundred thousand pounds and to maintain the Bishops Courts and their greatness was at least four hundred and fifty thousand pounds per Annum more besides the Charges of the 24. Deanes to the great Churches and 544 Canons Residents and Prebendaries besides many Petty Canons Vicars Singing-men and Boyes Organists Gospellers Epistlers which took up in Lands three or four thousand pounds yearly All this you have more largely set forth in a Book entituled A short View of the Prelatical Church of England At this Fair of Lambeth things being sold cheap were soon bought and the great Revenue of the Prelates and Collegiat Churches which would have given a comfortable subsistance to a godly Ministry was put off by such whole-sale peny worhs that it was quickly distributed by those that knew well enough how to divide the Spoil Well you are deceived the good Lord give repentance to the deceivers Friends Lambeth-Fair is at an end and you know Fairs do not use to belong but Markets are more frequent and since Lambeth Fair hath been down there hath been a Market up called Toleration and such Commodities are to be sold at the Sign of the Black-spread Eagle near Pauls by Giles Calvert where you may be furnished with such Writings Books and Pamphlets that shall deny God Christ Spirit Word Ordinances Resurrection Heaven Hell what not Brethren I shall give you a sad view of some of those Wares though I do not advise the buying any of them but beseech you to abhorre and detest them Touch not tast not handle not for they shall all perish and they that walk by them And as I said take heed what you hear so also what you read But that we may the more bewail the abuse of liberty and the sad effects of Toleration whereby our God hath been so dishonoured the Gospel scandalized and the truth of our Profession justly questioned consider the Wares here suffered to be sold which are such as though we counted Hell a fable or to endeavour the filling it our duty One comes Sir Have you a Book that declares the Bible not to be the Word of God and that it is but humane Yea here it is called The Pilgrimage of Saints p. 4. By Lawrence Clearkson Sir you may have two or three more Sir Have you any against the Nature and Essence of God Yea Arguments by John Biddle p. 7. Saith he It s a wretched distinction to distinguish between Essence and Person And that God hath more hand in mens sinfulness than themselves in a Book stiled Comfort for Believers p 36.37 you may have 3 or 4 more Sir Have you any thing against the Trinity of persons in unity of Essence Yea That the Son to be co equal with the Father or the Holy Spirit to be a distinct co-equal person is from the Chappel of Rome Paul Beast p. 4.5 Sir Have you any Book to declare that Christ is not God Yea The better part of Christ's person is man there being but a gradual difference betwixt him and Moses and us And to make Christ co-equal with his Father is to make a false Christ or two Gods Mysteries discovered by Paul Beast p. 6. Sir Sir Have you any Book against the Deity of the Holy

answered Quest Have any given you the title of being the King of Israel Answ I think it s in the letter Quest Do you own it Answ I have no Kingdom in this world but a Kingdom I have Quest Do you own the title of the King of Israel and Prince of peace Answ It is but one and that of God born in me is the King of Israel Jesus Christ who is the King of Israel is manifested in me and that I own Qu. Have any called you the Prophet of the most high God Answ Yea I am a Prophet of the most high God Quest Are you the Prophet Answ I have said Quest Are you a judge sent to try the cause of Israel Ans. The Judge of Israel is but one Quest Do you in any respect judge the cause of Israel Answ. No other way then as God is manifested in the flesh Quest Then that way you are that Judge Ans. I own it Quest How do you execute the office of a Judge Answ. No other way then as the Father in me Quest By whom are you sent to do it Ans. By him that hath made all creatures he hath sent his Son into me to try the cause of Israel Quest In what manner do you judge the cause of Israel Ans. If they be brought before me in the counsel of my Father I do judge it but not in carnal things Quest In what matters are you made a judge if not in carnal things Ans. In matters belonging to the Kingdom of God Quest By what spirit do you judge Ans. By the indwellings of the Father and the Son Quest By what spirit are you guided to be Judge Ans. It s the Judge of all Spirits and not to be guided by any but himself Quest Is not the word of God the rule of the Spirit Ans. The word of God and the Spirit is one Quest Is not the written word of God that Rule Answ It s that which doth declare of that Spirit Quest Are you more sent then another man to do this Answ No otherwise but as the Father and the Lord is manifested in me and to no other but him that knowes the indwellings of God Quest Have any persons said or written that your Mother is a Virgin and your birth immortal Ans. I remember such expressions Quest Do you own this Ans. Not according to the natural birth Quest Do you own it according to the spiritual An. I am born of the immortal seed Quest Who was your Mother according to your spiritual birth An. No man knowes but he that hath it Quest You can tell who was your Mother To this no answer Quest Do you own your birth immortal An. Yea according to the spirit Q Had your birth any beginning you say it is immortal An. If thou speakest to the visible I had but not otherwise Q. Who is the Father of your spiritual birth An. I have told you Quest Who is your Mother the Virgin Mary An. I have not said I was born of the Virgin Mary but there is a womb that you know not of Quest Do you own the title to be him in whom the hope of Israel stands An. As Christ is in me Qun As Christ is in you are you he in whom the hope of Israel stands An. Yea. Qu. What are those hopes that Israel have in you more then another An. None but those that have it can give account of it Qu. What hope is it that they can give account of Answered not Qu. Have any called you the everlasting Son of righteousness is he manifested in thy flesh An. He is manifested in the flesh I do not deny Qu. Are you the Prince of peace An. I own him the everlasting Prince of peace begotten in me Qu. When those titles were given to you did you reprove them An. I spake not to those that did it but to the Letter I know it would not bear with some Qu. Have any call'd you by the name of Jesus An. Not as unto the visible but as to Jesus the Christ that is in me Qu. Dost thou own that name King of Israel An. Not as a creature but if they give it Christ within me he hath a Kingdom of which thou wottest not Q. Did any worship you and kisse your feet in the prison An I do not mind it Qu. Do you remember it An. I may be they might Qu. Is there that worship due to you which was to Christ An. If they did it to the visible they were too blame but if to the invisible that worship is due to me according to my measure as was due * to Christ Quest Then you say that worship was due to that which you call the invisible in you to you as was given to Christ at Jerusalem Ans. Yea. Qu. When you were askt at Bristol are you the King of Israel did you say thou hast said it An. I cannot tell whether I said it there but I do say it here if they had known the Father they had known me also Qu. What estate have you how are you maintained in your Travels An. I take little care for that Qu. Who provides for you An. Him that clothes the Lillies Qu. How dost thou live by bread An. I live by the word of the Lord Qu. Do you live by that only An. So long as it pleaseth the Father I do Qu. How long have you fasted without bread An. Some weeks Qu. How many weeks An. Two or three Qu. Did you live without any food all that time An. Yea. Qu. Did any offer you any food in that time An. Yea many did but I refused and lived by the word of the Lord Here I have only given account briefly of his Examinations at London which I hoped would at large have come forth by some faithful hand it being presented to the House by the Committee in fifteen sheets of paper as then taken from his own mouth but waiting a full year and no such thing appearing I have the easier been perswaded to publish it I shall here insert the Examination only of Dorcas Erbury one of his Disciples who indeed spake without juggling downright the sense of them all The Examination of Dorcas Erbury before the Magistrates of Bristol Octob. 27. 1656. Quest Where do you live Ans. With Margaret Thomas of Bristol Quest Why did you sing Holy holy c. before James Nailer when he rode in Ans. I did not sing then but they that did were call'd to it by the Lord Quest They call'd him that rode on the Horse the holy one of Israel Is he so Ans. Yea he is so and I will seal it with my blood Quest And is he the only begotten Son of God ☞ Answ He is the only begotten Son of God Quest Why did you so honour him as to pull off his stockins and put your Cloathes under his feet Ans. Because he is the Lord of Israel and is worthy of it Quest Do you know no other Jesus

pierced then oh my soul learn to make this use of thy feet the feet of thy body or thy affections the feet of thy soul oh be thou one of them that follow the Lamb this Lamb whither ever he goeth step by step oh my Soul be thou ready at his call as that righteous man Abraham was in all obedience to come up to his foot And now Soul Behold his 12th and last bleeding when lifted up upon the Crosse and his sacred side was pierced causing him to bleed to purpose to the finishing of his own life and accomplishing of thy salvation Oh therefore let him have thy heart in service for thou hast his blood in sacrifice and his heart blood might forthwith as in the text come out well enough for this also the Souldier did Now soul look up and hear what thy Jesus said It is finished And behold what thy Jesus did saith the Text He bowed his head and gave up the Ghost The people hearing what was to be done came together saith the Text to see that sight And all the people that came together to that sight beholding the things which were done smote their breasts and returned Oh for an eye of Faith to see thy Saviour this blessed sight indeed thy Jesus thus bowing down his bleeding head and finishing the great work of Redemption for us May we not smite upon our hearts and say what have we done What a bloudy sight have my sins made And cry out what shall I render to this my Lord for all the benefits I have gained by all these his sufferings oh let us lay a charge upon our souls and say Blesse the Lord O my Soul and all that is within me blesse his holy name Blesse the Lord O my soul and forget not all his benefits Who forgiveth all thine iniquities who healeth all thy Diseases who redeemeth thy life from destruction who crowneth thee not with thorns but with loving kindness and tender mercies And all this gained to us by this his bleeding and that unto death Thus oh Soul thou hast seen Christ's love sealed with his blood who when we were enemies thus bled and died for us Oh then let the love of Christ constrain us to mourn over him that was thus for us pierced that is amongst us thus blasphemed Let it constrain us to love him again to love his Word all his Ordinances Saints especially his Ministers and the more them because by Impostors and Seducers so much maligned now let their feet be more beautiful than ever and that for their tidings sake as the Prophet faith And that we may see its a Gospel-text and duty the Apostle makes use of it from the Prophet to be our duty thus to love and honour those Teachers that are sent that have Commission for it s confined to them How shall they preach except they be sent As it is written How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the Gospel of peace and bring glad tidings of good things Now the Apostle speaking that in the last dayes perilous times shall come amongst other sinners brings in Blasphemers and they have also their form of godliness But the precept is from such turn away not turn unto And the Apostle gives them this Character They creep into Houses and lead captive silly * women and men too but laden with sin And we shall see the Apostle Jude directing his Epistle not only to them that are sanctified by God the Father but to the preserved in Jesus Christ and called tells them though yet preserved it was needful for me to write unto you and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the Saints Why all this what 's the matter The Reason is for there are certain men crept in unawares who were before of old ordained to this condemnation ungodly men turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness and denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ Now doth not this Text set forth this Impostor Nailor being so exceeding vicious and erronious Ah poor Bristol that thou must for indeed thou can'st witness this more then any Thou mayest say indeed this is a day of trouble and rebuke and of Blasphemy it may be the Lord our God will hear the words of Rabshekah this Nailor and will reprove the words which the Lord our God hath heard wherefore lift up thy prayer for the remnant that is left What Hezekiah said to the Prophet Isaiah do we that remnant that is yet left say to you all you despised contemned opposed Prophets For though these Seducers and their Proselytes deal so with you yet unto us that fear the Lord you are in our account the Ministers of Christ and Stewards of the Mysteries of God therefore for the Lords sake lift up your prayers for us do not only preach to us but make conscience in your private devotions of praying for us for that Text is an everlasting truth He is a Prophet and shall pray for thee If you ask why we are so earnest I 'le tell you That remnant that is left is but a remnant out of a remnant and even in them and me are the seeds of Apostasie for Heresie is a work of the flesh therefore pray for us pray that we also may perform our duty which is to pray for you And oh that the Spirit of prayer were recovered again in us I do somewhat remember when the Sword was first drawn in Ireland how we were affected considering our Brethren and their leading the way to our own troubles how this stir'd up a spirit of prayer when we considered the Concomitants of Warre and those destroying instruments which as one saith made many times a harvest for the Devil as glittering Swords roaring Cannons Skul-dividing Holberts murdering Muskets that while one is discharging his Gun another discharges him of his life and that it may be one Brother another This did then so put us a weeping and praying that it could not be said as the Prophet Isaiah there is none that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee O you Teachers pray your hearers into a praying posture But it will be said this is over now I would it were suppose it be is there no cause of weeping and praying Consider When the Question was put to Mary Woman why weepest thou Oh saith she speaking as a woman undon they have taken away my Lord and I know not where they have laid him Now though Warre be gone and what the Souldiers have not taken away we yet keep yet do not men Devils incarnate seek to take away Sabbaths Scriptures Ordinances Ministers yea our Lord Jesus his person were he within their reach and we know not where they would lay him And may not we say again these things the Souldiers did And one of the Souldiers pierced his side and was

not Nailor a Souldier as well as a famous infamous Quaker and Blasphemer And now Brethren let none take offence before it be given because I have in setting forth the sufferings of Christ the Captain of our Salvation so oft mentioned the word Souldier for its frequent in all our four Evangelists and my practice hath declared that I own Warre as an Ordinance of God when rightly stated but let me say this to them and to my own soul to help us to lament let us look upon David an eminent instance who though he was a Souldier a man of much bloud he was also a Saint a real Saint a man of many teares saith he Rivers of waters run down mine eyes because they keep not thy Law Truly if we can say as Nehemiah that good man did of himself as to the Kings Discerning I had not saith he been before time sad in his presence Yet now if ever we have cause of sorrow of heart and sadness of countenance as he had Consider we Nehemiah's cause of that sadness which occasioned the speech of the King Wherefore the King said unto me Why is thy countenance sad seeing thou art not sick this is nothing else but sorrow of heart oh that it were so with us Then I was very sore afraid and said unto the King Let the King live for ever Why should not my countenance be sad when the City the place of my Fathers Sepulchers lyeth waste and the Gates thereof are consumed with fire Then the King said unto me For what dost thou make request So I prayed to the God of Heaven I suppose some secret ejaculation at that time the application I leave to those to whom more properly it belongs the persons Ministers whom we are now speaking of and calling upon our selves more to pray for But to return O that we could pray more Yea and methinks we should you standing in so much need of prayer as indeed you do For you you who are the Ministers of Jesus Christ are the mark shot at it s you who are the more able and more godly amongst you which is the white in that mark at which they aim and level their malice And then considering how earnestly you beg it of us as you do in one place Brethren pray for us that the word of the Lord may have free course and be glorified And the Apostle Paul we shall see Never did any man beg for an Alms with more earnest intreaties than he did for the Saints prayers Now I beseech you Brethren for the Lord Jesus Christs sake and for the love of the Spirit that you strive together with me in your prayers to God for me And Jesus Christ hath not only taught us to pray but by his own example hath taught us to put up earnest Supplications He being in an Agony prayed more earnestly And this was a little before his sufferings a little before his lifting up upon the Crosse Now this lifting up was to draw all men unto him and the Pole upon which our Lord Jesus is thus lifted up is the Gospel He is the true Serpent indeed lifted up that whosoever believeth on him should not perish but have eternal life * Now those that do bear this Pole or Standard whereby we come to see what he hath done and how he hath bled for us were the four Evangelists and then the Apostles and so onward their successive Brethren the Ministers with whom he hath promised to be always even to the end of the world So then by vertue of this promise we have encouragement to pray for though men and Devils band together against them yet a standing Ministry he will bear up and that to the end not of that age as some would have it but of the World And bear them up he will sure for they are Stars and that in his right hand and who shall nay who can pluck them thence But now that we may make up what and wherein we have been wanting in this duty we have a promise also to enable us and let us turn that promise into a prayer and earnestly beg of God to make it good which is That he will poure down the Spirit of grace and Supplication upon us and then shall prayers and teares be poured out from us with acceptation Which that we may let us talk lesse of them lesse then that against them and let us up and be doing in praying more frequent and earnest for them And let one and the other put up this joynt prayer as Nehemiah did O Lord I beseech thee let now thine ear be attentive to the prayer of thy Servant and to the prayer of thy Servants who desire to fear thy name And prosper good Lord the studies and labours of thy Servants that all error and blasphemy and whatsoever is contrary to sound Doctrine may fall before them Amen Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity Amen and Amen The Magistrates and Ministers of the City taking into consideration the heighth of this wretches blasphemy before treated of And the great disturbance and opposition the Ministers and people have in the time of their publick worship of God made their address to the Parliament then sitting at Westminster by way of Remonstrance and Petition as followeth The humble Remonstrance and Petition of the Mayor Aldermen and Common Councel of the City of Bristol Together with the Ministers of the Gospel and other chief Inhabitants who desire to fear God and serve our Lord Jesus in sincerity in the same City THat we especially the Magistrates have with much regret and sadness of spirit lyen long under much reproach ignominy occasioned by the increase of a Generation of seduced and seducing persons among us called Quakers who at first were supported and upheld by some Souldiers then in chief command in the absence of the Governour of the Garison The wickedness of which sect of men hath not in our Nation as we know of been formerly heard of And so destitute of a Law to punish and restrain and therefore have not been able to suppress And whereas we have waited long for some directions to that purpose being unwilling to run upon unknown precipices these people have strengthned and incouraged themselves in their iniquities upon some pretended countenance from thence whence we cannot suppose it so that also we could and did yet with some difficulty punish and thereby in some measure hinder their open and frequent disturbances of our publick worship We had not power to silence their Blasphemies nor restrain their confused and tumultuous meetings although to the high dishonour of God in their unchristian principles and practises too well known and in prophaning the Sabbath by multitudes of their Proselytes flocking from all parts of the Countrey round about us upon that day But now so it is that one James Naylor a most