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A47166 Quakerism no popery, or, A particular answere to that part of Iohn Menzeis, professor of divinity in Aberdeen, (as he is called) his book, intituled Roma mendax Wherein the people called Quakers are concerned, whom he doth accuse as holding many popish doctrins, and as if Quakerism, (so he nick-names our religion,) were but popery-disguised. In which treatise his alleadged grounds for this his assertion, are impartialy and fairly examined and confuted: and also his accusation of popery against us, justly retorted upon himself, and his bretheren. By George Keith. Keith, George, 1639?-1716. 1675 (1675) Wing K194; ESTC R213551 62,351 126

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particular_a faith_n can_v not_o be_v the_o scripture_n see_v no_o scripture_n in_o all_o the_o bible_n say_v that_o such_o a_o man_n by_o name_n now_o live_v be_v a_o child_n of_o god_n for_o although_o the_o scripture_n give_v true_a and_o certain_a mark_n of_o a_o child_n of_o god_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o tell_v i_o that_o i_o have_v these_o mark_n and_o so_o can_v not_o be_v the_o rule_n unto_o i_o whereby_o to_o know_v or_o believe_v that_o i_o have_v they_o indeed_o but_o the_o spirit_n himself_o bear_v witness_v with_o our_o spirit_n that_o we_o be_v the_o child_n of_o god._n rom._n 8._o and_o this_o faith_n i_o say_v whereby_o a_o particular_a person_n do_v believe_v that_o he_o be_v a_o true_a child_n of_o god_n that_o he_o be_v regenerate_v and_o sanctify_v and_o
affirm_v that_o water-baptism_n be_v the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n and_o a_o stand_a ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n which_o the_o quaker_n deny_v twelve_o the_o papist_n and_o i._o m._n with_o his_o brother_n agree_v in_o affirm_v that_o infant-sprinkling_a be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o the_o quaker_n deny_v thirteen_o the_o papist_n and_o i._o m._n and_o his_o brother_n agree_v in_o affirm_v that_o the_o partake_n of_o the_o visible_a sign_n of_o b●ead_n and_o wine_n be_v a_o sacrament_n or_o stand_a ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n which_o the_o quaker_n deny_v fourteen_o the_o papist_n and_o i._o m._n and_o his_o brother_n agree_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o christian_n to_o swear_v which_o the_o quaker_n according_a to_o the_o express_a command_n of_o christ_n do_v deny_v fifteenth_o the_o papist_n and_o i._o m._n and_o his_o brother_n agree_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o christian_n to_o fight_v and_o kill_v one-anoth_a in_o fight_v which_o the_o quaker_n deny_v sixteenth_o the_o papist_n and_o i._o m._n and_o his_o brother_n agree_v in_o the_o bloody_a antichristian_a tenet_n of_o persecution_n in_o affirm_v that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n may_v lawful_o kill_v banish_v imprison_v and_o poynd_v man_n for_o their_o opinion_n in_o matter_n of_o worship_n and_o doctrine_n which_o doctrine_n the_o quaker_n deny_v seventeenth_o the_o papist_n and_o i._o m._n with_o his_o brother_n agree_v in_o affirm_v it_o lawful_a for_o man_n to_o knell_n bow_n and_o take_v off_o their_o hat_n one_o to_o another_o and_o in_o the_o use_n of_o vain_a title_n compliment_n and_o cringeing_n etc._n etc._n all_o which_o thing_n the_o quaker_n deny_v eighteenth_o the_o papist_n and_o i._o m._n and_o his_o brother_n agree_v in_o assert_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o game_n sport_v play_v and_o all_o such●_n other_o thing_n as_o danceing_n sing_n act_v of_o comedy_n use_v of_o lace_n ribbon_n plate_v the_o hair_n and_o such_o other_o 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