〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o to_o be_v make_v do_v not_o continual_o import_v a_o change_n of_o nature_n and_o therefore_o that_o this_o passage_n of_o st._n ambrose_n can_v with_o any_o certainty_n be_v thus_o interpret_v second_o we_o must_v not_o know_v what_o follow_v in_o that_o very_a chapter_n to_o explain_v these_o word_n and_o to_o confute_v the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n viz._n ibid._n viz._n si_fw-mi tant_fw-fr a_fw-fr vis_fw-fr sermone_fw-la domini_fw-la jesus_n ut_fw-la inciperent_fw-la esse_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la erant_fw-la quanto_fw-la magis_fw-la operatorius_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la sint_fw-la quae_fw-la erant_fw-la n._n b._n &_o in_o aliud_fw-la commutentur_fw-la ibid._n if_o there_o be_v so_o great_a force_n in_o christ_n word_n that_o by_o it_o thing_n begin_v to_o be_v that_o which_o before_o they_o be_v not_o how_o much_o more_o operative_a must_v it_o be_v to_o cause_n that_o thing_n be_v what_o they_o be_v and_o yet_o be_v change_v into_o another_o which_o word_n be_v extant_a thus_o in_o all_o the_o ancient_a maniscript_n and_o old_a edition_n of_o st._n ambrose_n and_o be_v thus_o cite_v by_o guitmund_n yvo_n algerus_n gratian_n and_o anselm_n and_o in_o the_o old_a edition_n of_o lanfrancus_fw-la though_o in_o the_o late_a edition_n of_o st._n ambrose_n they_o be_v corrupt_v and_o to_o abet_v this_o fraud_n lanfraneus_fw-la in_o a_o new_a edition_n be_v produce_v affirm_v that_o some_o copy_n do_v admit_v a_o diverse_a lection_n we_o must_v not_o know_v what_o also_o here_o he_o do_v affirm_v that_o ibid._n that_o sed_fw-la forte_fw-fr dicis_fw-la speciem_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la non_fw-la video_fw-la sed_fw-la habet_fw-la fimilitudinem_fw-la sicut_fw-la enim_fw-la similitudinem_fw-la mortis_fw-la sumpsisti_fw-la ita_fw-la etiam_fw-la smilitudinem_fw-la pretion_n sanguinis_fw-la bibis_fw-la ut_fw-la nullus_fw-la horror_n cruoris_fw-la sit_fw-la &_o pretium_fw-la tamen_fw-la operetur_fw-la redemptionis_fw-la ibid._n as_o we_o do_v receive_v in_o baptism_n the_o likeness_n of_o his_o death_n so_o in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n do_v we_o receive_v the_o likeness_n of_o his_o precious_a blood_n again_o we_o must_v be_v tell_v st._n ambrose_n say_v 1._o say_v t._n g._n p._n 305_o de_fw-fr sacram._n l._n 6_o c_o 1._o that_o as_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v the_o true_a son_n of_o god_n not_o as_o man_n be_v by_o grace_n but_o as_o the_o son_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o his_o father_n so_o it_o be_v his_o very_a true_a flesh_n as_o himself_o have_v say_v which_o we_o receive_v and_o his_o very_a true_a blood_n which_o we_o drink_v but_o then_o we_o must_v not_o know_v what_o follow_v to_o explain_v this_o passage_n and_o to_o confirm_v our_o doctrine_n viz._n that_o 6._o that_o in_o similitudinem_fw-la quidem_fw-la accipl_n sacramentum_fw-la sed_fw-la veer_fw-la naturae_fw-la gratiam_fw-la virtutemque_fw-la consequeris_fw-la de_fw-fr sacr_n l_o 1_o c._n 6._o we_o receive_v this_o sacrament_n in_o a_o similitude_n but_o true_o do_v obtain_v the_o grace_n and_o the_o virtue_n of_o the_o nature_n whence_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o it_o be_v therefore_o say_v to_o be_v christ_n very_a flesh_n and_o blood_n because_o it_o do_v convey_v the_o virtue_n of_o they_o which_o be_v more_o evident_a form_n that_o which_o follow_v to_o wit_n that_o ibid._n that_o quomodo_fw-la discendit_fw-la panis_fw-la vivus_fw-la de_fw-la caeso_fw-la resp_n quia_fw-la idem_fw-la dominus_fw-la noster_fw-la jesus_n christus_fw-la consors_fw-la est_fw-la &_o divinitatis_fw-la &_o corporis_fw-la &_o to_o quia_fw-la accipis_fw-la panem_fw-la n._n b._n divinae_fw-la ejus_fw-la substantiae_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la participaris_fw-la alimento_fw-la ibid._n our_o lord_n christ_n be_v partaker_n of_o the_o divinity_n and_o humane_a nature_n thou_o who_o receive_v bread_n do_v in_o that_o nourishment_n partake_v of_o his_o divinity_n and_o let_v it_o be_v observe_v that_o ambrose_n do_v indeed_o affirm_v that_o as_o christ_n say_v that_o which_o we_o receive_v be_v true_o flesh_n and_o be_v true_a drink_n but_o he_o do_v not_o affirm_v that_o we_o receive_v it_o true_o and_o substantial_o and_o as_o when_o christ_n declare_v that_o unless_o we_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n that_o flesh_n &_o drink_n he_o speak_v of_o be_v true_a flesh_n and_o drink_n but_o the_o receive_n the_o eat_n and_o the_o drink_n of_o it_o be_v metaphorical_a so_o may_v it_o be_v here_o and_o hence_o 2._o hence_o de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la aethiopum_fw-la c._n ult_n cyril_n glaphyr_n in_o exod._n l._n 2._o fulgeutius_n and_o other_o tell_v we_o that_o we_o do_v eat_v it_o in_o our_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o as_o we_o be_v say_v to_o eat_v it_o there_o so_o also_o may_v we_o be_v conceive_v to_o eat_v it_o in_o the_o other_o sacrament_n last_o we_o must_v be_v tell_v how_o the_o same_o ambrose_n do_v assert_v that_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n which_o of_o nothing_o can_v make_v that_o to_o be_v which_o be_v not_o can_v change_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v into_o that_o which_o before_o they_o be_v not_o and_o yet_o that_o this_o mutation_n be_v not_o a_o change_n of_o nature_n but_o of_o signification_n and_o of_o the_o virtue_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v evident_a from_o that_o which_o follow_n in_o this_o chapter_n viz._n that_o initiantur_fw-la that_o t._n g._n p._n 304._o non_fw-la corporealis_fw-la esus_fw-la sed_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la est_fw-la ante_fw-la benediction_n in_fw-la verborum_fw-la caelestium_fw-la aliaâ—pecies_n nominatur_fw-la post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la significatur_fw-la c._n 9_o the_o his_o qui_fw-la initiantur_fw-la it_o be_v not_o corporal_a meat_n but_o spiritual_a and_o that_o before_o the_o benediction_n it_o be_v name_v another_o kind_n but_o after_o consecration_n it_o signify_v christ_n body_n or_o that_o elsewhere_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o power_n of_o god_n so_o operate_v to_o change_v they_o as_o that_o they_o still_o continue_v what_o they_o be_v before_o nay_o this_o be_v also_o evident_a from_o the_o word_n cite_v by_o t._n g._n viz._n that_o word_n of_o christ_n which_o of_o nothing_o can_v make_v that_o to_o be_v which_o be_v not_o can_v it_o not_o change_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v into_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o be_v not_o for_o it_o be_v not_o a_o less_o matter_n to_o give_v new_a nature_n to_o thing_n than_o to_o change_v their_o nature_n where_o evident_a it_o be_v that_o this_o new_a nature_n give_v to_o the_o sacramental_a element_n be_v oppose_v to_o the_o mutation_n of_o their_o nature_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o st._n ambrose_n this_o change_n be_v make_v not_o by_o mutation_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n but_o by_o addition_n of_o a_o new_a nature_n to_o they_o i.e._n by_o the_o addition_n of_o new_a quality_n and_o virtue_n in_o which_o familiar_a acceptation_n of_o the_o word_n st._n peter_n tell_v we_o that_o by_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n we_o be_v all_o make_v partaker_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n and_o the_o father_n frequent_o affirm_v that_o by_o faith_n and_o by_o the_o holy_a spirit_n we_o be_v change_v into_o another_o nature_n and_o that_o after_o the_o resurrection_n we_o shall_v thus_o be_v change_v or_o this_o kind_n 489.504_o kind_n de_fw-fr sacr._n euch._n l._n 2._o p._n 489.504_o albertinus_n have_v collect_v above_o thirty_o instance_n ob._n the_o change_n which_o be_v make_v in_o the_o nature_n of_o bread_n be_v here_o illustrate_v by_o the_o example_n of_o those_o miraculous_a change_n 304._o t._n g._n p._n 304._o which_o be_v wrought_v by_o holy_a man_n of_o old_a in_o the_o nature_n of_o thing_n as_o of_o moses_n his_o rod_n be_v turn_v into_o a_o serpent_n the_o water_n of_o egypt_n into_o blood_n etc._n etc._n answ_n but_o this_o etc._n etc._n conceal_v three_o instance_n produce_v by_o ambrose_n which_o only_o signify_v a_o accidental_a change_n viz._n initiantur_fw-la viz._n jordanus_n retrorsum_fw-la conversus_fw-la contra_fw-la naturam_fw-la in_o svi_fw-la fontis_fw-la revertltur_n exordium_n nun_n claret_n naturam_fw-la vel_fw-la maritinotum_fw-la fluctuum_fw-la vel_fw-la fluvialis_fw-la cursus_fw-la esse_fw-la mutatam_fw-la marath_n fluvius_fw-la amarissâ—mus_fw-la erat_fw-la ut_fw-la sitiens_fw-la populus_fw-la bibere_fw-la non_fw-la posset_n mifit_n moses_n lignum_fw-la in_o aquam_fw-la &_o amari_fw-la tudinem_fw-la svam_fw-la aqua_fw-la rum_o natura_fw-la deposuit_fw-la quam_fw-la infusa_fw-la subito_fw-la gratia_fw-la temperavit_fw-la sub_fw-la haeliseo_n propheta_fw-la uni_fw-la ex_fw-la filiis_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la excussum_fw-la est_fw-la ferrum_fw-la de_fw-fr securi_fw-la &_o statim_fw-la mersum_fw-la est_fw-la rogavir_fw-fr helisaeum_fw-la qui_fw-la amisserit_fw-la ferrum_fw-la misit_fw-la etiam_fw-la helisaeus_n lignum_fw-la in_o aquam_fw-la &_o ferrum_fw-la natavit_fw-la utique_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la praetet_fw-la naturam_fw-la factum_fw-la esse_fw-la cognoscimus_fw-la cap._n 9_o the_o his_o qui_fw-la initiantur_fw-la the_o sweeten_v of_o the_o water_n of_o marah_n the_o swim_n of_o the_o iron_n and_o the_o return_v of_o the_o water_n of_o the_o river_n jordan_n whence_o it_o be_v
not_o the_o truth_n wherefore_o gaudentius_n do_v argue_v a_o majori_fw-la thus_o he_o that_o make_v water_n to_o be_v substantial_o wine_n can_v certain_o make_v wine_n to_o become_v sacramental_o his_o blood_n 507._o t._n g._n p._n 507._o we_o must_v be_v tell_v that_o st._n ignatius_n confess_v eucharist_n to_o be_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n which_o suffer_v for_o our_o sin_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 2._o but_o then_o we_o must_v not_o know_v that_o this_o epistle_n be_v intend_v against_o the_o simonian_o and_o menandrian_o who_o hold_v that_o christ_n suffer_v only_o in_o appearance_n &_o have_v no_o real_a flesh_n &_o therefore_o can_v not_o confess_v that_o the_o eucharist_n be_v sacramental_o christ_n flesh_n least_o admit_v the_o figure_n they_o shall_v be_v force_v to_o admit_v the_o truth_n and_o substance_n and_o therefore_o his_o interpolater_n dispute_v against_o they_o thus_o 50_o v._o usher_n not._n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la smyr_n p._n 50_o that_o incorporeal_a thing_n have_v neither_o shape_n nor_o character_n nor_o figure_n of_o a_o live_a creature_n that_o have_v form_n which_o may_v be_v see_v whereas_o when_o christ_n shall_v come_v to_o judgement_n they_o who_o have_v pierce_v shall_v see_v he_o second_o we_o confess_v the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v christ_n body_n and_o his_o flesh_n and_o only_o do_v dispute_v the_o manner_n how_o of_o which_o ignatius_n say_v nothing_o we_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o it_o be_v true_o and_o indeed_o christ_n flesh_n and_o blood_n as_o know_v that_o it_o may_v be_v true_o what_o it_o be_v spiritual_o for_o christ_n be_v the_o true_a vine_n 16.12_o job_n 15.1_o joh._n 1.8_o heb._n 8.2_o luk._n 16.12_o and_o the_o true_a light_n heaven_n be_v call_v the_o true_a tabernacle_n and_o spiritual_a blessing_n the_o true_a riches_n and_o of_o this_o we_o have_v innumerable_a instance_n both_o from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n produce_v by_o albertinus_n de_fw-fr sacramento_n euch._n p._n 218._o 854._o moreover_o it_o be_v object_v 37_o t._n g._n p._n 306._o orat._n mag._n catec_fw-la c._n 37_o that_o gregorius_n nyssen_n do_v affirm_v that_o he_o believe_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n the_o bread_n sanctisy_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o be_v transmute_v into_o the_o body_n of_o the_o word_n answ_n true_o but_o than_o it_o be_v as_o true_a that_o this_o transmutation_n may_v be_v as_o well_o by_o the_o addition_n of_o grace_n to_o nature_n as_o by_o the_o substantial_a mutation_n of_o that_o nature_n it_o be_v evident_a from_o the_o abundant_a testimony_n of_o bafil_n 487._o vid._n alb._n de_fw-fr sacr._n euch._n l._n 2._o p._n 487._o nazianzen_n chrysostom_n and_o cyril_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o other_o father_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o transmutari_fw-la be_v term_n indifferent_o use_v as_o well_o of_o a_o mutation_n which_o only_o do_v respect_v the_o quality_n state_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o subject_a as_o the_o nature_n of_o it_o and_o of_o this_o we_o have_v many_o instance_n in_o the_o undoubted_a work_n of_o gregory_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o soul_n make_v virtuous_a be_v 8._o be_v in_o inscr_n psal_n c._n 8._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d transmute_v and_o that_o 8._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o cant._n hom_o 8._o regeneration_n be_v a_o transmutation_n of_o it_o into_o that_o which_o be_v divine_a and_o that_o 9_o that_o ibid._n hom._n 9_o when_o we_o appear_v in_o glory_n we_o shall_v undergo_v this_o transmutation_n nay_o in_o this_o very_a place_n he_o twice_o assert_n that_o the_o mortal_a body_n of_o christ_n be_v receive_v into_o our_o body_n do_v change_v our_o body_n into_o its_o self_n or_o its_o own_o nature_n ibid._n nature_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n so_o then_o these_o word_n can_v infer_v that_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n receive_v by_o consecration_n any_o other_o change_n he_o tell_v we_o further_o that_o the_o virtue_n of_o the_o benediction_n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d change_n or_o transelement_n the_o nature_n of_o thing_n which_o do_v appear_v answ_n this_o word_n be_v also_o use_v ordinary_o to_o signify_v not_o any_o change_n of_o substance_n but_o of_o quality_n and_o virtue_n only_o and_o of_o this_o kind_n you_o have_v in_o albertinus_n many_o instance_n produce_v 488_o l._n 2._o p._n 488_o of_o which_o no_o less_o than_o twenty_o be_v cite_v from_o gregorius_n nyssen_n declare_v that_o by_o regeneration_n and_o baptism_n we_o be_v transelemented_a or_o change_v to_o a_o spiritual_a nature_n and_o that_o the_o resurrection_n will_v thus_o transelement_n and_o change_v our_o nature_n so_o that_o it_o may_v with_o equal_a reason_n be_v conclude_v from_o this_o word_n that_o in_o baptism_n our_o nature_n be_v transubstantiate_v as_o that_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o eucharistical_a bread_n be_v change_v into_o christ_n real_a and_o substantial_a body_n and_o so_o much_o for_o that_o spurious_a or_o doubtful_a passage_n of_o gregorius_n nyssen_n the_o passage_n cite_v from_o st._n cyril_n say_v 306._o t._n g._n p._n 306._o that_o our_o saviour_n sometime_o change_v water_n into_o wine_n and_o shall_v we_o not_o think_v he_o worthy_a of_o our_o belief_n that_o he_o change_v wine_n into_o his_o blood_n but_o then_o the_o same_o st._n cyril_n do_v also_o say_v 2._o catech._n 2._o he_o who_o raise_v lazarus_n when_o four_o day_n dead_a can_v he_o not_o much_o more_o easy_o raise_v thou_o viz._n from_o a_o death_n of_o sin_n unto_o a_o life_n of_o righteousness_n who_o do_v live_v and_o breathe_v and_o again_o 4._o catech._n 4._o the_o rod_n of_o moses_n be_v change_v by_o the_o will_n of_o god_n into_o the_o dissentaneous_a nature_n of_o a_o serpent_n and_o shall_v not_o dead_a man_n be_v restore_v unto_o himself_o again_o and_o both_o ambrose_n and_o st._n editis_fw-la st._n serm._n 12._o ex_fw-la 40_o a_o sirmundo_n editis_fw-la austin_n do_v argue_v from_o the_o conversion_n of_o water_n into_o wine_n that_o god_n can_v change_v our_o mortal_a into_o immortal_a glorious_a body_n if_o then_o it_o be_v ridiculous_a from_o any_o of_o these_o passage_n to_o argue_v a_o substantial_a change_n wrought_v in_o we_o by_o regeneration_n or_o the_o resurrection_n it_o must_v be_v also_o vain_a to_o argue_v a_o substantial_a change_n from_o the_o like_a instance_n use_v to_o illustrate_v the_o change_n which_o be_v by_o consecration_n make_v upon_o the_o eucharistick_a symbol_n 2_o the_o word_n immediate_o precede_v do_v clear_o evidence_n that_o cyril_n argue_v a_o majori_fw-la for_o say_v he_o if_o god_n can_v make_v this_o change_n from_o water_n into_o wine_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mist_n catech._n 4._o mist_n shall_v it_o not_o much_o more_o be_v confess_v that_o he_o do_v give_v we_o the_o fruition_n of_o his_o body_n and_o his_o blood_n whereas_o have_v he_o conceive_v the_o mutation_n of_o the_o eucharistick_a symbol_n to_o have_v be_v equal_a to_o the_o change_n of_o water_n into_o wine_n that_o phrase_n have_v be_v improper_a and_o absurd_a for_o of_o two_o equal_a change_n it_o can_v reasonable_o be_v affirm_v he_o that_o be_v able_a to_o perform_v the_o one_o be_v much_o more_o able_a to_o perform_v the_o other_o 3_o i_o have_v already_o large_o prove_v that_o cyril_n here_o intend_v only_o a_o accidental_a change_n and_o shall_v yet_o further_o make_v it_o evident_a from_o two_o consideration_n 1._o that_o in_o the_o follow_a catechism_n he_o speak_v thus_o we_o pray_v unto_o the_o god_n of_o mercy_n 〈◊〉_d mercy_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o he_o will_v send_v his_o spirit_n into_o the_o thing_n that_o lie_v before_o we_o and_o will_v make_v the_o bread_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o wine_n his_o blood_n for_o whatsoever_o the_o holy_a spirit_n touch_v be_v sanctify_v and_o change_v not_o that_o it_o be_v substantial_o change_v for_o he_o affirm_v of_o the_o baptismal_a oil_n and_o water_n that_o they_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o holy_a spirit_n and_o yet_o no_o romanist_n will_v hence_o infer_v that_o they_o do_v not_o retain_v the_o nature_n both_o of_o oil_n and_o water_n 2._o in_o his_o first_o catechism_n he_o affirm_v that_o as_o the_o eucharistick_a bread_n and_o wine_n before_o the_o consecration_n remain_v mere_a bread_n and_o wine_n but_o afterward_o be_v make_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d after_o like_a manner_n true_o be_v the_o meaâ—â—_n use_v in_o the_o pomp_n of_o satan_n in_o themselves_o pure_a or_o simple_a but_o by_o invocation_n of_o the_o daemon_n they_o be_v make_v impure_a as_o therefore_o the_o mutation_n of_o these_o meat_n be_v only_o a_o mutation_n of_o their_o quality_n not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o they_o so_o must_v the_o change_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n with_o which_o it_o be_v compare_v and_o equal_v be_v
that_o creature_n and_o to_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n if_o it_o be_v say_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n however_o they_o by_o way_n of_o worship_n ascribe_v that_o knowledge_n to_o the_o saint_n and_o angel_n which_o only_o do_v agree_v to_o god_n seem_v yet_o undue_o to_o be_v charge_v with_o this_o crime_n because_o they_o do_v profess_v this_o knowledge_n not_o to_o be_v inherent_a in_o they_o but_o to_o be_v derive_v from_o god_n i_o answer_v if_o this_o excuse_n may_v be_v admit_v in_o this_o case_n then_o must_v we_o free_v the_o heathen_n and_o many_o other_o from_o this_o crime_n who_o always_o have_v be_v brand_v with_o it_o by_o the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o 1._o the_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n which_o the_o heathen_n make_v to_o their_o inferior_a daemon_n and_o the_o first_o fruit_n and_o offering_n which_o they_o present_v to_o they_o be_v only_o make_v upon_o this_o false_a presumption_n spenc._n presumption_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d celsus_n apud_fw-la orig_n l._n 8._o p._n 399._o ed_n spenc._n that_o god_n by_o they_o dispense_v earthly_a thing_n and_o that_o he_o have_v appoint_v they_o to_o rule_v over_o a_o city_n or_o a_o country_n and_o 381._o and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n adv_o celsuns_n l._n 8._o p._n 381._o that_o it_o be_v his_o pleasure_n that_o we_o shall_v thus_o pray_v and_o offer_v to_o they_o and_o yet_o both_o these_o first_o fruit_n and_o prayer_n be_v look_v upon_o as_o piece_n of_o idolatry_n by_o jew_n and_o christian_n the_o nestorian_n hold_v the_o lord_n christ_n to_o be_v a_o man_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o grace_n invest_v with_o divinity_n and_o if_o any_o arian_n do_v ever_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v with_o divine_a worship_n they_o must_v esteem_v this_o honour_n to_o be_v give_v to_o he_o not_o from_o the_o dignity_n of_o his_o nature_n but_o from_o the_o pleasure_n of_o the_o father_n but_o notwithstanding_o they_o allow_v he_o to_o be_v deus_fw-la factus_fw-la they_o be_v most_o constant_o condemn_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n as_o worshipper_n of_o man_n and_o person_n guilty_a of_o idolatry_n thus_o also_o the_o magician_n pretend_v to_o derive_v their_o knowledge_n of_o what_o be_v hide_v and_o contingent_a from_o god_n and_o yet_o they_o also_o stand_v condemn_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o by_o the_o roman_a doctor_n as_o person_n guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o 4._o this_o excuse_n will_v say_v the_o imputation_n of_o falsehood_n and_o unjust_a impeachment_n on_o the_o holy_a scripture_n for_o nothing_o be_v more_o frequent_a in_o those_o sacred_a record_n than_o to_o impute_v to_o person_n what_o their_o action_n do_v import_v however_o they_o perform_v that_o action_n upon_o such_o presumption_n and_o vain_a imagination_n which_o if_o they_o have_v be_v true_a must_v have_v excuse_v they_o from_o the_o imputation_n the_o heathen_a constant_o profess_v they_o do_v not_o worship_v stock_n or_o stone_n but_o that_o spiritual_a be_v which_o by_o their_o 12._o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ditit_fw-la olympius_n sophista_fw-la sozom._n h._n ecc._n l._n 7._o c._n 15._o v._n dion_n chrysust_n sâ—rm_n 12._o consecration_n they_o conceive_v to_o be_v present_a in_o their_o image_n or_o which_o those_o image_n resemble_v and_o represent_v and_o that_o prefession_n we_o have_v record_v by_o the_o 2._o the_o hermes_n aegyptius_n quem_fw-la trismegisium_n vocant_fw-la visibilia_fw-la &_o contrectabilia_fw-la simulachra_fw-la velut_fw-la corpora_fw-la decrum_fw-la esse_fw-la asserit_fw-la inesse_fw-la autem_fw-la his_fw-la quosdam_fw-la spiritus_fw-la invitatos_fw-la qui_fw-la valequid_fw-la sive_fw-la ad_fw-la nocendum_fw-la sive_fw-la ad_fw-la desideria_fw-la corum_fw-la nonulla_fw-la complenda_fw-la à _fw-la quibus_fw-la cis_fw-la divint_fw-la honores_fw-la &_o culius_fw-la obsequia_fw-la deferuntur_fw-la hos_fw-la ergo_fw-la siritus_fw-la invisibliles_fw-la per_fw-la 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the_o world_n and_o yet_o because_o those_o spirit_n which_o they_o conceive_v to_o be_v the_o minister_n of_o god_n be_v only_o satan_n instrument_n and_o most_o pernicious_a creature_n the_o scripture_n represent_v they_o as_o worshipper_n of_o devil_n the_o israelite_n do_v not_o conceive_v the_o very_a image_n they_o have_v make_v to_o be_v the_o true_a jehovah_n i._n e._n they_o do_v not_o think_v that_o gold_n thus_o form_v into_o the_o image_n of_o a_o calf_n have_v real_o its_o seat_n in_o heaven_n and_o do_v from_o thence_o behold_v the_o dweller_n upon_o earth_n they_o do_v not_o real_o believe_v it_o be_v the_o great_a creator_n of_o the_o world_n and_o consequent_o that_o it_o make_v that_o very_a matter_n of_o which_o it_o be_v compound_v and_o that_o it_o perform_v all_o the_o wonder_n which_o their_o eye_n have_v see_v before_o it_o have_v a_o be_v they_o do_v not_o all_o conceive_v that_o man_n can_v at_o his_o pleasure_n make_v his_o maker_n or_o give_v a_o be_v to_o that_o god_n to_o who_o he_o owe_v and_o from_o who_o he_o receive_v his_o be_v and_o that_o they_o who_o be_v not_o able_a to_o preserve_v themselves_o can_v make_v a_o be_v able_a to_o preserve_v the_o world_n and_o to_o confer_v upon_o it_o whatever_o blessing_n can_v be_v want_v to_o future_a age_n nor_o do_v the_o heathen_n who_o be_v accuse_v of_o the_o like_a crime_n in_o scripture_n entertain_v such_o foolish_a thought_n this_o be_v a_o truth_n self-evident_a and_o write_v upon_o the_o heart_n and_o conscience_n of_o all_o consider_v man_n and_o have_v i_o no_o conviction_n of_o the_o idolatry_n commit_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o only_o this_o that_o they_o be_v force_v to_o excuse_v their_o practice_n from_o idolatry_n by_o lay_v such_o prodigious_a imputation_n not_o only_o on_o the_o valentia_n the_o perspicuum_fw-la igitur_fw-la ex_fw-la scripture_n est_fw-la quicquid_fw-la somniet_fw-la insanum_fw-la calvini_n caput_fw-la judaeos_fw-la simulachra_fw-la pro_fw-la diis_fw-la habuisse_fw-la greg._n de_fw-fr valentia_n jew_n but_o the_o whole_a ihid_n whole_a mendacium_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la gentiles_n ea_fw-la deos_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la putâ—rint_fw-la bellarm_n de_fw-fr eccl._n triumph_n l._n 2._o c._n 13._o s_o 10._o &_o rursus_fw-la causarum_fw-la quibus_fw-la movebantur_fw-la ethnici_fw-la ad_fw-la credendum_fw-la idola_fw-la esse_fw-la deos_fw-la prima_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la id_fw-la eye_n dicebatur_fw-la à _fw-la pontificibus_fw-la suis_fw-la secunda_fw-la quia_fw-la videbant_fw-la totum_fw-la ferè_fw-la mundum_fw-la be_v credere_fw-la ihid_n heathen_a world_n and_o to_o assert_v they_o do_v continue_v such_o incredible_a portentous_a sot_n for_o very_a many_o age_n this_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o justify_v the_o charge_n for_o to_o impute_v to_o the_o whole_a world_n for_o many_o age_n the_o belief_n of_o many_o thing_n the_o least_o of_o which_o no_o single_a person_n can_v imagine_v to_o be_v true_a without_o a_o miracle_n of_o folly_n be_v a_o triumphant_a demonstration_n that_o their_o case_n be_v desperate_a for_o shall_v any_o man_n be_v force_v in_o defence_n of_o any_o tenet_n to_o assert_v that_o all_o the_o world_n do_v for_o some_o age_n past_a believe_v that_o twice_o two_o be_v six_o or_o that_o every_o ass_n they_o feed_v be_v the_o creator_n of_o the_o world_n i_o humble_o conceive_v we_o shall_v have_v reason_n to_o believe_v he_o be_v some_o mad_a distemper_a person_n and_o that_o only_o the_o badness_n of_o his_o cause_n and_o his_o own_o obstinacy_n and_o not_o the_o evidence_n of_o truth_n constrain_v he_o to_o espouse_v a_o tenet_n so_o reproachful_a to_o mankind_n and_o yet_o this_o tenet_n have_v nothing_o more_o apparent_o repugnant_a to_o the_o sense_n and_o apprehension_n of_o mankind_n than_o that_o which_o be_v maintain_v by_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n viz._n that_o all_o mankind_n do_v for_o two_o thousand_o year_n conceive_v that_o be_v their_o maker_n which_o they_o have_v new_o make_v and_o that_o at_o pleasure_n they_o can_v give_v a_o be_v to_o he_o who_o have_v his_o be_v from_o himself_o and_o can_v
declare_v this_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o christian_a and_o to_o reveal_v their_o supplication_n to_o depart_a christian_n 3._o what_o a_o ridiculous_a office_n do_v they_o impose_v upon_o the_o god_n of_o heaven_n by_o this_o fond_a opinion_n for_o when_o they_o pray_v to_o apollonia_n for_o the_o toothache_n god_n must_v not_o only_o tell_v she_o that_o such_o a_o person_n supplicate_v but_o also_o that_o his_o tooth_n do_v ache_v and_o therefore_o he_o particular_o implore_v her_o assistance_n when_o they_o address_v themselves_o to_o any_o saint_n in_o this_o odd_a language_n 586._o language_n cum_fw-la ad_fw-la imaginem_fw-la sancti_fw-la alicujus_fw-la quis_fw-la dominicam_fw-la orationem_fw-la pronuntiat_fw-la ita_fw-la tum_fw-la sentiat_fw-la se_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la petere_fw-la ut_fw-la secum_fw-la oret_fw-la sibique_fw-la postulet_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la dominicae_fw-la orationis_fw-la formulâ_fw-la continentur_fw-la catech._n rom._n part_n 4_o c._n 6._o s_o 4._o p._n 586._o our_o father_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n which_o they_o familiar_o do_v as_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o roman_a catechism_n god_n must_v inform_v this_o saint_n both_o of_o the_o person_n pray_v and_o his_o prayer_n and_o his_o intention_n by_o so_o do_v to_o oblige_v he_o to_o use_v those_o word_n in_o his_o behalf_n 2._o behalf_n o_o praeco_fw-la accelera_fw-la piae_fw-la matriâ—_n praecare_fw-la viscera_fw-la propr_fw-la fest_n f._n 2._o when_o they_o desire_v any_o saint_n or_o angel_n to_o go_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n this_o saint_n must_v be_v inform_v first_o of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o prayer_n then_o must_v he_o post_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o she_o must_v go_v unto_o her_o son_n and_o he_o unto_o his_o father_n to_o present_v that_o request_n which_o he_o reveal_v and_o be_v not_o these_o man_n very_o bold_a with_o god_n to_o put_v such_o office_n upon_o he_o and_o make_v he_o nuntio_n to_o all_o his_o creature_n 2._o the_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ib._n origen_n that_o angel_n be_v sometime_o style_v god_n but_o notwithstanding_o that_o these_o god_n do_v also_o minister_v and_o bring_v the_o gift_n of_o god_n unto_o we_o we_o must_v not_o worship_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o place_n of_o god_n for_o all_o our_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n by_o whatsoever_o name_n we_o call_v they_o for_o he_o mention_n all_o the_o kind_n of_o prayer_n they_o must_v be_v all_o send_v up_o to_o god_n by_o that_o high_a priest_n who_o be_v above_o all_o angel_n and_o be_v god_n why_o so_o i_o pray_v you_o but_o that_o all_o prayer_n be_v worship_n which_o alone_o belong_v to_o god_n and_o jesus_n christ_n and_o therefore_o to_o offer_v it_o to_o any_o creature_n or_o by_o any_o other_o mediator_n be_v to_o ascribe_v that_o to_o he_o which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o have_v he_o be_v of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n he_o must_v have_v say_v with_o they_o that_o notwithstanding_o you_o have_v 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ar._n orat_fw-la p._n 369._o let_v they_o know_v that_o christian_n or_o holy_a person_n do_v not_o petition_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v beget_v to_o be_v a_o helper_n to_o they_o or_o a_o house_n of_o refuge_n what_o be_v they_o then_o who_o do_v declare_v that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a 25._o profitable_a council_n trid._n sess_n 25._o ad_fw-la corum_fw-la opem_fw-la auxiliumque_fw-la confugere_fw-la to_o fly_v for_o refuge_n to_o their_o help_n and_o aid_n who_o daily_a practice_n be_v to_o fly_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n 8._o virgin_n catech_n rom._n par._n 4._o c._n 5._o sect._n 8._o ab_fw-la eâque_fw-la opem_fw-la &_o auxilium_fw-la implorare_fw-la i._n e._n and_o to_o petition_v she_o to_o be_v our_o helper_n who_o do_v advise_v we_o a._n we_o sub_fw-la matris_fw-la refugio_fw-la fuge_fw-la causa_fw-la veniae_fw-la prosa_fw-la miss_n f._n 33._o b._n 34._o a._n to_o fly_v under_o her_o refuge_n for_o the_o pardon_n of_o our_o sin_n last_o who_o say_v unto_o their_o 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christus_fw-la &_o adorandus_fw-la est_fw-la christus_fw-la orig._n l._n 8._o in_o epist_n ad_fw-la rom._n c._n 10._o that_o to_o invoke_v the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o to_o adore_v he_o be_v the_o same_o whence_o he_o infer_v that_o as_o christ_n may_v be_v invocate_v so_o also_o must_v he_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v god_n and_o he_o add_v that_o when_o saint_n paul_n do_v mention_v those_o that_o in_o all_o place_n call_v upon_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n he_o prove_v the_o same_o have_v thus_o manifest_v from_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n that_o invocation_n be_v a_o part_n of_o worship_n proper_a to_o god_n and_o that_o it_o can_v be_v ascribe_v to_o saint_n depart_v without_o idolatry_n much_o less_o to_o the_o inferior_a heathen_a daemon_n 1.5_o pag._n 1.5_o we_o shall_v subjoin_v what_o dr._n st._n affirm_v viz._n that_o there_o be_v other_o intermediate_v being_n between_o the_o supreme_a god_n and_o man_n who_o office_n as_o the_o heathen_n do_v 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porrigitur_fw-la alicui_fw-la dupliciter_fw-la vno_fw-la modo_fw-la quasi_fw-la per_fw-la ipsum_fw-la implenda_fw-la alio_fw-la modo_fw-la sicut_fw-la per_fw-la ipsum_fw-la impetranda_fw-la primo_fw-la quidem_fw-la modo_fw-la soli_fw-la dec_n orationem_fw-la porrigimus_fw-la quid_fw-la omnes_fw-la crationes_fw-la nostrae_fw-la ordinari_fw-la debent_fw-la ad_fw-la gratiam_fw-la &_o gloriam_fw-la consequendam_fw-la quae_fw-la solus_fw-la deus_fw-la that_fw-mi secundum_fw-la illud_fw-la psal_n 83._o gratiam_fw-la &_o glorian_n dabit_fw-la dominue_v sed_fw-la secundario_fw-la modo_fw-la orationem_fw-la porrigimus_fw-la angelis_n &_o hominibus_fw-la aq._n 2_o 2ae_fw-la q._n 83._o art_n 4._o aquinas_n thus_o propound_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n touch_v the_o invocation_n of_o depart_a spirit_n a_o prayer_n may_v be_v direct_v to_o a_o person_n so_o as_o that_o we_o do_v request_v he_o to_o fulfil_v and_o by_o himself_o accomplish_v our_o desire_n and_o thus_o we_o 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no_o other_o and_o that_o nothing_o be_v require_v but_o his_o nature_n to_o make_v he_o understand_v all_o thing_n particular_o both_o platonist_n and_o other_o hold_v that_o god_n be_v the_o searcher_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o be_v himself_o acquaint_v with_o the_o thought_n of_o man_n hence_o 83._o hence_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d laertius_n in_o vit_fw-mi thaletis_n p._n 24_o nihil_fw-la deo_fw-la clausum_fw-la est_fw-la interest_n animus_fw-la nostris_fw-la &_o cogitationibus_fw-la intervenit_fw-la senec_n ep._n 83._o thales_n be_v ask_v whether_o the_o action_n of_o man_n can_v be_v conceal_v from_o god_n he_o answer_v no_o nor_o yet_o our_o thought_n nothing_o be_v hide_v from_o god_n faith_n seneca_n he_o be_v both_o present_a to_o our_o mind_n and_o thought_n whence_o he_o exhort_v we_o so_o to_o live_v as_o in_o his_o sight_n and_o so_o to_o think_v as_o have_v one_o who_o look_v into_o our_o breast_n 1._o breast_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d xenophon_n memorab_n l._n 1._o the_o god_n say_v socrates_n know_v all_o thing_n which_o be_v speak_v do_v and_o which_o in_o silence_n we_o consult_v 13._o consult_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d m._n antonini_n l._n 12._o sect._n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n l._n 11._o sect._n 13._o god_n see_v all_o mind_n say_v antoninus_n devest_v of_o those_o bark_n and_o material_a vessel_n that_o contain_v they_o for_o with_o his_o mind_n alone_o he_o reach_v all_o those_o mind_n which_o be_v derive_v from_o he_o and_o be_v lodge_v in_o they_o whence_o he_o exhort_v we_o so_o to_o be_v 14._o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epict_n dissert_v l._n 2._o c._n 14._o affect_v in_o our_o mind_n as_o that_o the_o god_n may_v see_v that_o nothing_o do_v trouble_v or_o disgust_v we_o vindict_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d plutarch_n de_fw-fr tarditate_fw-la divin_fw-fr vindict_v this_o we_o be_v first_o to_o learn_v say_v epictetus_n that_o there_o be_v a_o god_n who_o providence_n do_v reach_v to_o all_o 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ask_v t._n g._n what_o mean_v the_o image_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o be_v either_o the_o monument_n of_o the_o dead_a or_o absent_a person_n in_o what_o order_n will_v you_o place_v your_o saint_n and_o angel_n if_o in_o the_o number_n of_o dead_a man_n why_o then_o be_v you_o so_o foolish_a as_o to_o worship_v they_o if_o in_o the_o number_n of_o the_o absent_a they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v worship_v since_o they_o can_v neither_o see_v our_o action_n nor_o hear_v our_o prayer_n what_o i_o have_v thus_o retort_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n if_o the_o like_a practice_n have_v then_o obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n may_v have_v be_v with_o like_a evidence_n return_v upon_o lactantius_n tertullian_n tell_v the_o heathen_n that_o by_o allow_v many_o god_n 10._o god_n cum_fw-la alii_fw-la alios_fw-la deos_fw-la colitis_fw-la eos_fw-la quos_fw-la non_fw-la colitis_fw-la utique_fw-la contemnitis_fw-la praelatio_fw-la alterius_fw-la sine_fw-la alterius_fw-la contumelia_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la nec_fw-la ulla_fw-la electio_fw-la non_fw-la reprobatione_fw-la componitur_fw-la qui_fw-fr de_fw-fr pluribus_fw-la suscipit_fw-la aliquem_fw-la eum_fw-la quem_fw-la non_fw-la suscipit_fw-la despexit_fw-la sed_fw-la tot_fw-la ac_fw-la tanti_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la coli_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la jam_fw-la ergo_fw-la tunc_fw-la primo_fw-la contempsistis_fw-la non_fw-la veriti_fw-la scilicet_fw-la ita_fw-la instituere_fw-la ut_fw-la omnes_fw-la coli_fw-la non_fw-la possent_fw-la tertul._n ad_fw-la nationes_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 10._o they_o do_v affront_n as_o many_o of_o they_o as_o they_o do_v not_o worship_n for_o the_o prelation_n of_o any_o one_o be_v a_o reproach_n to_o all_o the_o rest_n which_o argument_n do_v equal_o impugn_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o many_o of_o their_o saint_n who_o in_o some_o country_n be_v worship_v more_o than_o christ_n himself_o be_v scarce_o know_v in_o other_o 2._o the_o ancient_n pray_v for_o all_o the_o saint_n depart_v except_v neither_o apostle_n martyr_n or_o the_o bless_a virgin_n the_o liturgy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n ascribe_v to_o st._n chrysostome_n say_v 999._o say_v chrysost_n tom._n 6._o p._n 998_o 999._o we_o offer_v unto_o thou_o this_o reasonable_a service_n for_o those_o who_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o the_o faith_n our_o forefather_n father_n patriarch_n prophet_n and_o apostle_n preacher_n evangelist_n martyr_n confessor_n religious_a person_n and_o every_o spirit_n perfect_v in_o the_o faith_n but_o especial_o for_o our_o most_o holy_a immaculate_a most_o bless_a lady_n the_o mother_n of_o god_n and_o ever_o virgin_n mary_n remember_v all_o they_o who_o be_v fall_v asleep_a in_o the_o hope_n of_o the_o resurrection_n to_o eternal_a life_n give_v they_o to_o rest_v where_o the_o light_n of_o thy_o countenance_n preside_v the_o liturgy_n ascribe_v to_o st._n mark_n have_v make_v mention_n of_o the_o patriarch_n prophet_n and_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n speak_v thus_o a._n thus_o biblioth_n patrum_fw-la gr._n lat._n tom._n 2._o p._n 35._o a._n lord_n make_v the_o soul_n of_o all_o these_o to_o rest_n in_o the_o tabernacle_n of_o thy_o saint_n in_o thy_o kingdom_n confer_v on_o they_o all_o the_o good_a thing_n promise_v which_o be_v a_o pregnant_a evidence_n that_o the_o first_o author_n of_o those_o liturgy_n do_v not_o invoke_v the_o bless_a virgin_n or_o the_o evangelist_n apostle_n martyr_n or_o any_o other_o saint_n depart_v this_o be_v a_o know_a rule_n and_o as_o 41._o as_o cum_fw-la sacrae_fw-la scripturae_fw-la dicat_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la quod_fw-la injuriam_fw-la facit_fw-la martyri_fw-la qui_fw-la orat_fw-la pro_fw-la martyr_n innocent_n iii_o p._n r._n decret_a l._n 3._o the_o celeb_n miss_n do_fw-mi 41._o pope_n innocent_n declare_v the_o voice_n of_o scripture_n that_o he_o who_o pray_v for_o any_o martyr_n do_v offer_v a_o affront_n unto_o that_o martyr_n nay_o even_o common_a sense_n and_o reason_n show_v that_o it_o be_v very_o foolish_a and_o absurd_a to_o pray_v for_o they_o and_o to_o commend_v they_o to_o god_n favour_n to_o who_o we_o therefore_o pray_v because_o we_o think_v their_o merit_n and_o their_o interest_n with_o god_n be_v such_o as_o that_o they_o can_v prevail_v by_o virtue_n of_o they_o for_o all_o the_o blessing_n they_o can_v ask_v for_o other_o 3._o the_o heathen_n do_v object_n against_o the_o christian_n that_o they_o put_v up_o supplication_n to_o the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n who_o birth_n and_o ignominious_a death_n they_o own_v 26._o own_v inique_fw-la non_fw-la scis_fw-la quem_fw-la invocas_fw-la hominem_fw-la quendam_fw-la factum_fw-la sub_fw-la cu_v à _fw-la pontii_fw-la pilati_n punitum_fw-la in_o act._n andr._n apud_fw-la bar._n a._n d._n 290._o §._o 26._o do_v thou_o not_o know_v say_v maximus_n unto_o andronicus_n the_o martyr_n that_o he_o who_o thou_o invoke_v be_v a_o man_n who_o suffer_v under_o pontius_n pilate_n and_o in_o arnobius_n the_o heathen_a thus_o dispute_v 20._o dispute_v sed_fw-la non_fw-la inquit_fw-la idcirco_fw-la dii_fw-la vobis_fw-la infesti_fw-la sunt_fw-la quod_fw-la omnipâ—lentem_fw-la colatis_fw-la deum_fw-la sed_fw-la quod_fw-la hominem_fw-la natum_fw-la &_o quod_fw-la personis_fw-la infane_a est_fw-la vilibus_fw-la crucis_fw-la supplicio_fw-la interemptum_fw-la &_o deum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la contenditis_fw-la &_o superesse_fw-la adhuc_fw-la creditis_fw-la &_o quotidianis_fw-la supplicationibus_fw-la adâ—â—atis_fw-la arnobii_n adversus_fw-la gentes_fw-la l._n 1._o p._n 20._o you_o christian_n do_v adore_v with_o daily_a supplication_n and_o look_v upon_o he_o as_o a_o god_n who_o be_v both_o bear_v a_o man_n and_o suffer_v a_o ignominious_a death_n on_o the_o cross_n and_o have_v the_o christian_n of_o that_o time_n put_v up_o their_o supplication_n to_o the_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o martyr_n and_o the_o bless_a virgin_n have_v not_o the_o heathen_n great_a reason_n to_o object_n that_o they_o offer_v up_o their_o supplication_n unto_o such_o as_o be_v but_o ordinary_a man_n and_o who_o continue_v in_o the_o state_n of_o death_n when_o in_o the_o day_n of_o julian_n this_o custom_n do_v insinuate_v itself_o into_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o they_o begin_v in_o panegyrical_a oration_n to_o speak_v unto_o the_o martyr_n as_o to_o man_n present_v with_o they_o eunapius_n present_o cry_v out_o 65._o eunap_n in_o aedesso_n p._n 65._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o call_v their_o martyr_n minister_n and_o legate_n of_o their_o prayer_n to_o god_n that_o therefore_o this_o be_v not_o object_v by_o porphyry_n or_o celsus_n or_o take_v notice_n of_o as_o their_o objection_n by_o any_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v a_o assurance_n that_o they_o have_v no_o such_o practice_n in_o the_o pure_a age_n of_o the_o church_n 4._o this_o will_v be_v far_a evident_a if_o we_o consider_v that_o in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n and_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n we_o have_v no_o rule_n prescribe_v for_o the_o canonise_a of_o any_o saint_n depart_v or_o any_o mention_n of_o this_o custom_n till_o the_o seven_o century_n for_o since_o it_o be_v so_o great_a a_o crime_n to_o worship_v damn_a spirit_n next_o to_o god_n see_v to_o celebrate_v their_o praise_n and_o to_o give_v god_n thanks_o for_o their_o example_n and_o for_o the_o grace_n of_o his_o spirit_n be_v so_o absurd_a a_o thing_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n say_v sed._n say_v nisi_fw-la judicio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la certi_fw-la sancti_fw-la proponerentur_fw-la colendi_fw-la facile_a fieri_fw-la posset_n ut_fw-la populus_fw-la saepe_fw-la â—rraret_fw-la &_o damnatos_fw-la pro_fw-la beaâ—is_n coleret_fw-la bellarm_n de_fw-fr sanct._n beat_n c._n 7._o §._o sed._n bellarmine_n that_o easy_o may_v happen_v from_o the_o neglect_n of_o this_o canonization_n we_o may_v conclude_v that_o they_o who_o never_o take_v the_o care_n to_o practice_v it_o do_v not_o allow_v that_o worship_n which_o make_v its_o observation_n necessary_a chap._n ix_o the_o content_n general_a head_n of_o answer_n to_o the_o testimony_n produce_v by_o t._n g._n from_o ancient_a father_n 1._o that_o the_o father_n of_o that_o time_n do_v more_o unquestionable_o practice_v and_o approve_v what_o have_v be_v since_o condemn_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n v.g._n they_o practise_v the_o communicate_v of_o infant_n they_o approve_v the_o necessity_n of_o it_o to_o salvation_n sect._n 1_o they_o approve_v the_o doctrine_n that_o the_o righteous_a do_v not_o enjoy_v the_o sight_n of_o god_n before_o the_o resurrection_n sect._n 3_o second_o that_o the_o father_n cite_v by_o he_o do_v many_o of_o they_o in_o word_n more_o clear_a and_o writing_n more_o authentic_a deny_v or_o disapprove_v this_o practice_n sect._n 2._o three_o many_o of_o the_o father_n of_o those_o time_n beld_v doctrine_n inconsistent_a with_o that_o practice_n sect._n 3._o viz._n that_o saint_n do_v not_o enjoy_v the_o beatific_a vision_n ibid._n second_o that_o they_o do_v not_o hear_v or_o understand_v our_o word_n direct_v to_o they_o and_o that_o it_o be_v doubtful_a
advantage_n to_o our_o cause_n the_o father_n speak_v upon_o this_o text_n if_o we_o have_v nothing_o more_o to_o say_v but_o what_o they_o have_v deliver_v on_o these_o word_n yet_o shall_v we_o have_v what_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o confirm_v our_o faith_n and_o justify_v that_o imputation_n which_o we_o lie_v upon_o the_o cburch_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o they_o do_v express_o say_v that_o this_o exposition_n of_o t._n g._n and_o his_o infallible_a mother_n be_v not_o only_o false_a but_o a_o heretical_a exposition_n 15._o exposition_n ac_fw-la si_fw-la aliquis_fw-la haereticus_fw-la pertinaciter_fw-la obluctans_fw-la adversus_fw-la veritatem_fw-la voluerit_fw-la in_o his_o omnibus_fw-la exemplis_fw-la proprie_fw-la angelum_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligere_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la esse_fw-la contenderit_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la quoque_fw-la viribus_fw-la veritatis_fw-la frangatur_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr trin._n c._n 15._o if_o any_o heretic_n say_v novatian_n who_o pertinacious_o strive_v against_o the_o truth_n will_v have_v we_o in_o all_o these_o example_n proper_o to_o understand_v the_o angel_n or_o will_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o sense_n of_o that_o expression_n in_o this_o he_o must_v assure_o be_v break_v by_o the_o force_n of_o truth_n this_o exposition_n of_o the_o papist_n say_v st._n cyril_n 115.116_o thesaur_n p._n 115.116_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n the_o sottish_a exposition_n of_o the_o arian_n the_o exposition_n of_o the_o protestant_n must_v therefore_o be_v both_o true_a and_o orthodox_n 2._o they_o add_v that_o 116._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n alexandr_n thesaur_n p._n 116._o if_o the_o enemy_n of_o christ_n do_v think_v that_o jacob_n be_v a_o holy_a man_n and_o one_o endn_v with_o the_o prophetic_a spirit_n when_o he_o speak_v these_o word_n they_o may_v be_v well_o ashamed_a to_o charge_v he_o with_o so_o gross_a a_o error_n as_o be_v the_o invocation_n of_o a_o angel_n with_o god_n this_o custom_n therefore_o of_o put_v up_o the_o same_o petition_n in_o the_o same_o sentence_n to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o bless_a angel_n or_o to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o saint_n or_o angel_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v a_o thing_n arr._n thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 4_o contr_n arr._n exceed_o repugnant_a to_o the_o doctrine_n which_o then_o obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o which_o they_o esteem_v the_o 115._o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d b._n cyrill_n alexandr_n thesau_n p._n 115._o gross_a error_n 3_o they_o give_v we_o this_o as_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n that_o jacob_n speak_v not_o to_o a_o creature_n because_o he_o say_v 260._o orat._n 4._o contra_fw-la arian_n p._n 260._o the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a say_v athanasius_n and_o st._n cyril_n that_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o a_o create_a angel_n but_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o these_o petition_n prescribe_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o often_o tender_v both_o to_o saint_n and_o angel_n be_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o these_o father_n such_o as_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v tender_v to_o a_o creature_n and_o so_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n as_o therefore_o athanasius_n to_o the_o arian_n so_o say_v i_o to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 369._o rome_n contr._n arian_n ora_fw-la 2._o p._n 369._o let_v they_o know_v that_o never_o any_o good_a man_n put_v up_o such_o a_o prayer_n to_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v beget_v they_o be_v teach_v by_o christ_n to_o pray_v to_o god_n the_o father_n to_o be_v deliver_v from_o all_o evil._n 8._o c._n 16._o v._n 8._o and_o by_o the_o son_n of_o syrach_n to_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v he_o who_o deliver_v from_o all_o evil_a and_o this_o interpretation_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n will_v manifest_o appear_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n if_o we_o consider_v who_o this_o angel_n be_v for_o the_o angel_n who_o deliver_v he_o from_o all_o evil_a must_v be_v that_o very_a angel_n which_o deliver_v he_o from_o laban_n wrath_n and_o from_o the_o fury_n of_o his_o brother_n esau_n now_o the_o angel_n which_o say_v unto_o he_o i_o have_v see_v all_o that_o laban_n do_v unto_o thou_o 13._o 31_o gen._n 13.20_o 28_o gen._n 13._o return_v thou_o therefore_o into_o the_o land_n of_o thy_o kindred_n be_v the_o god_n of_o bethel_n the_o god_n to_o who_o he_o vow_v a_o vow_n that_o god_n who_o do_v appear_v in_o haran_n to_o he_o it_o be_v the_o god_n of_o his_o father_n abraham_n and_o the_o fear_n of_o isaac_n that_o rebuke_v laban_n and_o charge_v he_o not_o to_o do_v he_o hurt_v 4._o v._o 29.42.32_o gen._n 23._o 12_o hos_fw-la 4._o the_o angel_n that_o he_o wrestle_v with_o and_o with_o who_o he_o prevail_v be_v the_o god_n of_o heaven_n last_o it_o be_v his_o prayer_n to_o this_o god_n that_o make_v his_o brother_n esau_n melt_v into_o expression_n of_o the_o great_a love_n 2._o i_o answer_v this_o be_v no_o prayer_n but_o a_o wish_v thus_o when_o st._n paul_n conclude_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n the_o grace_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n 13.14_o 2_o cor._n 13.14_o and_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v with_o you_o all_o i_o hope_v he_o do_v not_o pray_v unto_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o the_o communication_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o then_o this_o passage_n may_v be_v thus_o expound_v i_o wish_v to_o god_n that_o he_o and_o that_o good_a angel_n who_o under_o he_o preserve_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n may_v preserve_v the_o lad_n some_o roman_a catholic_n confess_v that_o which_o we_o now_o contend_v for_o and_o tell_v we_o 18._o vide_fw-la vossium_n de_fw-fr invoc_n sanct._n disp_n 2_o th._n 18._o that_o although_o this_o practice_n in_o its_o self_n be_v good_a and_o profitable_a god_n will_v not_o suffer_v his_o own_o people_n to_o invoke_v these_o bless_a spirit_n lest_o they_o shall_v worship_v they_o as_o god_n idolatry_n be_v a_o vice_n they_o be_v so_o prone_a upon_o the_o least_o occasion_n to_o commit_v answer_v we_o find_v that_o notwithstanding_o the_o proneness_n of_o this_o people_n to_o that_o sin_n god_n often_o do_v appear_v in_o the_o similitude_n of_o angel_n to_o they_o he_o use_v the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n in_o the_o delivery_n of_o that_o law_n they_o do_v so_o high_o reverence_n he_o use_v their_o ministry_n both_o in_o confer_v of_o the_o choice_a blessing_n on_o his_o people_n and_o the_o inflict_a of_o the_o most_o remarkable_a judgement_n both_o on_o they_o and_o on_o their_o enemy_n and_o he_o deliver_v those_o thing_n touch_v the_o ministry_n and_o custody_n of_o holy_a angel_n which_o romanist_n conceive_v to_o be_v sufficient_a ground_n and_o motive_n for_o their_o invocation_n whence_o we_o may_v very_o well_o conclude_v it_o be_v not_o out_o of_o fear_n of_o any_o proneness_n of_o that_o people_n to_o this_o idolatry_n that_o he_o do_v not_o enjoin_v this_o practice_n but_o only_o because_o he_o be_v a_o jealous_a god_n and_o will_v not_o give_v his_o honour_n to_o another_o against_o the_o worship_n of_o a_o image_n or_o of_o the_o host_n of_o heaven_n or_o any_o other_o god_n which_o by_o the_o heathen_n be_v still_o worship_v under_o some_o visible_a representation_n we_o have_v frequent_a caution_n and_o very_o dreadful_a threaten_n in_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n but_o against_o this_o idolatry_n of_o worship_v those_o spirit_n which_o in_o their_o nature_n be_v invisible_a those_o writing_n give_v we_o not_o one_o caution_n or_o prohibition_n though_o they_o do_v often_o call_v they_o god_n of_o which_o affair_n i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o conceive_v a_o better_a reason_n than_o this_o be_v that_o it_o be_v just_a matter_n of_o suspicion_n that_o this_o rude_a heavy_a people_n may_v be_v prone_a to_o worship_v what_o they_o see_v but_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v fear_v that_o they_o shall_v worship_v what_o be_v invisible_a and_o seldom_o do_v appear_v and_o hence_o we_o find_v this_o people_n continual_o revolt_a from_o the_o invisible_a jehovah_n to_o the_o sun_n moon_n and_o star_n and_o to_o the_o heathen_a deity_n but_o never_o do_v we_o find_v they_o in_o the_o least_o incline_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o these_o bless_a spirit_n moreover_o if_o we_o do_v consider_v that_o in_o the_o whole_a new_a testament_n 8._o §_o 8._o we_o have_v not_o any_o precept_n to_o enjoin_v example_n to_o commend_v or_o promise_v to_o encourage_v we_o unto_o this_o invocation_n we_o have_v a_o further_a reason_n to_o believe_v that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n disapprove_v of_o it_o for_o can_v we_o think_v that_o christ_n himself_o and_o all_o his_o servant_n and_o apostle_n will_v have_v neglect_v to_o