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A17971 Astrologomania: the madnesse of astrologers. Or An examination of Sir Christopher Heydons booke, intituled A defence of iudiciarie astrologie. Written neere vpon twenty yeares ago, by G.C. And by permission of the author set forth for the vse of such as might happily be misled by the Knights booke. Published by T.V. B. of D. Carleton, George, 1559-1628.; Vicars, Thomas, d. 1638. 1624 (1624) STC 4630; ESTC S107657 76,014 146

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