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A85665 A declaration of divers elders and brethren of congregationall societies, in and about the city of London. Decrying and disclaiming two bookes; one called a cry; and the other book called A model of a new representative. Wherein their judgements touching the qualifications of electors, and eligible persons, are tendered to consideration, in way of vindication of themselves from unjust aspersions. 1651 (1651) Wing G1850; Thomason E644_7; ESTC R206049 5,590 8

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fell to Caesar And as for the Ten Kings that should hate the Whore be it generally expounded to include England and the Netherlands as well as others that forsake Rome Thus by Kings in Rom. 13. 1 Pet. 2. Rev. 17. We are to understand such as are Chiefe in Rule in any Nation Rulers and Laws are for the Nations good This Salus Populi is the End and to be most aymed at and sought after When those of the Netherlands by the Spanish King were Tyrannized over the States cast off the Tyrant and have Governed since And when King Charles left the Parliament and prepared warre against it the best Ministers in London and elsewhere stirred up the People to Contribute and Act to their utmost to raise and maintaine an Army against his Proceeds And by the Army which was empowred by the Authority of the Nation to their utmost to seek for the End beforesaid there hath been such subduing of Enemies and Obstacles as that by the wise Providence of God we are now reduced to a Common-wealth wherein the Rulers are now to be Honoured For if Caesar and Pagan Rulers under him in Judaea and elsewhere were to be honoured and submitted unto as both Christ taught and his Apostles Matth. 22.21 Mark 12.27 And yet they came in by the Sword and kept Gods Church in Bondage How much more should our Governours be Honoured by all people in our Nation II. The Second Proposition is this That all that professe themselves Christians or Gods people ought to endeavour so far as their place and power reacheth that all Rulers amongst them should be men truely fearing God Our Ground is the Expresse Charge of the Almighty 2 Sam. 23.3 The God of Israel said the Rock of Israel spake unto me HE THAT RVLETH OVER MEN Must be JVST RVLING IN THE FEAR OF GOD. Secondly Suitable thereto is that in Exod. 18.21 Provide out of all the People Men of ability or Courage such as FEAR GOD Men of Truth hating Covetousnesse These should be preferr'd before all other Qualifications of Birth Riches or Parts as we will Answer it before the Great JEHOVAH Thirdly The feare of the Lord is the Beginning of Wisedome Psal 111.10 Prov. 1.7 These will Pray and God will give them Wisedome Jam. 1.5 6. Prov. 2 1.-4 Fourthly Because when men Feare not God they are more obnoxious and liable to all wickednesse Injury Tyranny Oppression Rom. 3.11 They-seek not after God-Their Throat is an open Sepulcher Their feet are swift to shed bloud-Destruction and misery are in their wayes and the way of Peace they have not knowne And what 's the Root of all this There is no feare of God before their Eyes Hence when Abimelech asked What sawest thou that thou hast done this thing Abraham said Because I thought surely the feare of God is not in this place therefore they will slay me for my Wives sake Gen. 20.10 11. These two being premised III. Our Third Proposition is this That in our dayes wherein Persons truely fearing God are of divers Forms dissenting in Church-Government c. Some that are termed Presbyterians some Independents some Anabaptists and some that are not so resolved with any of these the Power of Choosing Rulers or of being Chosen should not be limitted to any one of those Formes or Perswasions to the Excluding of others excepting such See p. 1. lin 3. who either deny Propriety or Magistracy See the first Declaration or who assert carnal Liberty or Polygamy whom wee have witnessed against in our former Declaration Or such as have opposed or doe not owne this present Government Which Proposition 1. We Explaine thus Such Persons doe Feare the Lord that endeavour to keep a good Conscience before God and before men Such as through grace Deny ungodlinesse and worldly lusts and live soberly righteously and godly in this present World Tit. 2.12 Now among such whose Fathers had all been drunk with the Babylonish Cup and the dreggs and darknesses thence are not quite dispelled from us And but by Degrees doe we attaine to further knowledge of the Mystery of Christ and of Antichrist there are no doubt many such persons so fearing God as is beforesaid that have not all attained to the same degree and they must all be fully perswaded in their owne minds in what they practise Now if meerly for Conscience sake for their so practising or not daring to practise if any such should therefore be Excluded from being Chosen or from being Choosers or if the Chosen and the Choosers should be so limited that all of them should be onely of one sort and size excluding all the rest This might be a great wrong both to God and to Men. 2. We Confirme this Proposition thus First This course is a wrong to God when his Children whom he loves so dearly and who are so accepted of him are for his sake so rejected by men As in Isa 66.5 Your brethren that cast you out for my Names sake c. And this is a wrong to Jesus Christ who is in all his and will say to such as so reject them at the great Day on this wise In as much as yee did it to the least of these that beleeve in me you did it to me Mat. 25.45 46. Secondly Repl. This Course were also a wrong to Men. First To the Persons so rejected that upon the like Ground and Principle are liable to be Persecuted by them and worne out so as to occasion the Exile of many out of our Nation as it fared with many of our Brethren here under the Prelacy Secondly It were a Wrong or Damage to the Persons that so alone are fully Empowered to Choose and to be Chosen Whereby they are most lyable to such a Temptation as is to be Prayed against by Tender Souls as Wise Agur did against being Enriched Least I be full and deny or bely thee Prov. 30.9 The Coveting of such a Monopoly were a Coveting an evill Covetousnesse to himselfe when it is to the wronging of others of their due that have equall right Habak 2.9 Thirdly Thereby it may be a Wrong to that City or Nation where 1. Many being partakers of the Sin are like to partake also of the Punishment due thereunto even the Sin and Punishment of Babylon and Antichristians Rev. 18.4 One of their Sins being this Persecuting of Saints for not Conforming to them rigorously pressing to Vniformity 2. Hereby many others are the More hardened against all Professors and Profession when they see Professors so opposing Each other Thirdly How little cause there is for any of these to seek the Excluding of the other may further appeare by these Considerations 1. All those that feare the Lord amongst us are all the Children of one God and Father 2. They are the Redeemed of one Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who hath loved them and given himselfe for them 3. They have the Holy Spirit their Sanctifyer and Comforter 4. They have One Faith and hope of their Calling Ephes 4.4 5. 5. They have all of them one and the same Inheritance which is immortall undefiled uncorruptible which fadeth not away which is reserved in Heaven for them who are kept by the power of God through faith unto Salvation 1 Pet. 1.3 4. 6. They have the same Common Enemies to them all the Flesh the Devill and the World and in the World not onely Pagans Turks and Papists abroad but generally all persons that are in their Naturall Carnall and Corrupt estate at home 7. All these have also the very same Weapons and Arguments wherein they all generally with one minde agree together against all those their Common Enemies c. These have More with them then are against them 2 Kings 6. 8. The Time is comming and we hope is neer at hand when all that feare the Lord shall be of one minde and of one heart and shall worship him with one consent Zeph. 3.9 Then they shall have such externall Visible Union and Communion that shall Convince the World that are not convinced by internalls that the Father hath loved them all as he hath loved his Son as our Lord Jesus prayed and therefore it shall certainely be effected because the Father alwayes heard him John 17.21 23. John 11.41 Therefore should all these be far from excluding each other eyther from being Choosers or from being Chosen unto places of Power or Authority Thus have We with one Consent Declared our selves touching the Books aforesaid being such as we never consented unto nor owned and also our Grounds and Reasons why Wee are far from approving of them And the sincerity of our Hearts in what We have Declared herein We take the Almighty God to Record upon our Souls The IX Month called Novemb. the Tenth Day 1651. William Greenhill Richard Shute John Simpson Thomas Hutton Robert Turpin Thomas Brooks Christopher Feake Richard Woollaston Thomas Sherman Henry Jessey Emanuel Middelton Samuel Nash John Foche Hanserd Knolly's William Kiffin William Consett T Harrison Thomas Whalley LONDON Printed by M. Simmons for L. Chapman at the Crown in Popes-head Alley 1651.