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A31171 Quæries propounded to George Fox and his ministers to answer from a paper wrote by George Fox, intituled An epistle from the people called Quakers to all people to read over ... / by a lover of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was born of the Virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Ghost for the Christ and mans saviour, as that promised seed that God to Adam said should break the Serpents head. R. C. 1669 (1669) Wing C113; ESTC R29621 14,021 22

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victory over the world is not the hand that receiveth the power by believing on Christ the giver of the grace to beget us unto God childre● of the Kingdom or is it by believing the witness in man which yo● call the light in conscience which is but the spirit of man that which Solomon calls the Candle of the Lord that gives victory over the worl● in the heart explain Whether the Holy Ghost that proceeds from the Father and th● Son as proceeding from Father and Son be in the efflux both Fathe● and Son explain Since you deny in print three subsistences in the one divine essence and that they are not distinct in their operations as three father word and spirit Whether the water blood and spirit that bore witness to Christ o● earth were properties of his humanity or of his divinity explain And if of his divine natue and not of his humane what was it of Ghrist that cryed upon the cross My God my God why hast thou forsaken me Since the Scriptures say that it behoved the Christ to dye and it being unpossible for God to dye whether the light in conscience which you call Christ be the Christ that so dyed or the person be the Christ that dyed explain Whether since there is but one Gospel is it the power of the light in conscience according to your Doctrine or is it the death buriall and resurrection of Christ according to the Scriptures yea or nay explain Whether the price that bought man to God be the blood of Christs person since it was of the body God prepared to do his will or was it the life of God in that body that was blood explain And if the life of the Godhead is blood show us how it came to be blood since without blood there is no remission Whether the Lamb that purchased his Church by his own blood to present it without spot to God was Jesus of whom the Prophet said he was led as a Lamb to the slaughter and as a sheep before the shearers he opened not his mouth Or the light in man is this Christ off whom the Prophet spake explain For that of him in his personal appearance John the Baptist said behold the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the World Whether the word without Maries substance for his body is the whole Christ or the word with the substance taken of Mary be the Christ explain For of Christ the Scipture speaks in two distinctions as of two natures in the acting though one in conjunction in the act as he is the word God in Christ and as man Christ in whom God was as written god was in Christ reconciling and Christ him by whom the world was reconciled to God and the word being one with and in Christ whether the whole Christ through the words assuming the humane Nature to his divine be not God the divine and humane nature making up the whole person of Christ explain And since it is written of the Son thy Throne O God is for ever and ever a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy Kingdom thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniquity therefore God even thy God hath anointed thee with the oyl of gladness above thy fellows whether this Son of God is he that took upon him in his person for mans redemption the state of a servant accounting it no robbery to be equal with God and his fellow or is it the light in conscience you say is Christ who is this exalted Man Gods fellow whose throne is for ever explain But for your asserting of many Scriptures that relate to Christ for the redemption of man I know no professors that deny them as they teach faith to him the Son of God But your bringing them to colour your selves in your opinion of the light in you to be the Christ that I suppose they do deny and bring them for a witness against you for your convincement And I having this knowledge see not wherein you are wronged in being charged to deny God and Christ in a place above stars Sun Moon and Elements since what is said by you to the contrary speaks not of place but power and your saying you own his ascention and yet denyed his personal body to be ascended puts me upon this Quaery Whether you own Christ as a person ascended up into a Heaven that is a place of residence whereinto he is ascended far above stars Sun Moon and Elements explain From the 5 page to the 8 I pass over being but the same spoke to before But that you say in the 8 page Christ is the true light that enleightneth every man that comes into the world you err not knowing the Scriptures for they say not that Christ made all things for that as Christ is man he is made but as the manhood is united to the word who is God and that the two natures in Christ are not to be divided so it may be said that he made them by his head and the head of Christ is God For we find no where in Scripture that it is said of Christ as he is Man of the Virgin Mary that in him was the life that inlightneth every Man but in reference to the word that dwelt bodily in him From whence we quaery whether this Christ of whom John said was the Christ be he or the light in Man the Christ that G. F. saith is the Christ explain and if the Christ that G. F. saith is the Christ be he I desire to know of G. F or his Disciples what is become of the Christ whom the Scriptures bears record to be he Since you deny him in heaven the exalted of God for his Christ in a person Whether since you say it is the light that enlightneth every Man that comes into the world and the light is Christ by this assertion is not the light God and God the Christ explain And if the light be God and God is Christ and not the person the Christ then when Christ dyed was it not God that dyed and him that was nailed upon the Cross explain Since it is written of him that is the Saviour that by death he destroyed him that had the power of death to wit the Devil And if it was God that dyed and buried as dead who or what was there in Heaven or in Earth that did or could raize up God from the dead explain And your saying that with the light they saw the blood of Christ I say they did For he whose Testimony is true was by when the Lord was put to death who saith That which we have seen with our eyes and looked upon and handled with our hands and have heard from the beginning declare we unto you that your fellowship may be with us and our fellowship is with the Father and the Son in the light Therefore whether by the light in Man doth Man come to see Christ and his blood in himself
the creature is obedient unto the ligh● in his conscience 6. That the Father Word Spirit are not thre● distinct operators in the Divine essence 7. That the blood of Chris● doth not at one for man with God and that his body is not ascended into heaven These I acknowledge arr published for your principle to the world before now And in that you packed up together so many Scriptures as if yo● believed Christ and salvation by him as they bear record to him knowing you dance as in a Net concern my self to direct these Quaries unto you for explanation that the truth which is pure in it self may not be vailed through false glosses and you returning a Christian like answer to what is here presented in truth and simplicity without Serpentime twinings and false glosses will give us hope that at length 〈◊〉 you believe the scriptures that you have so largely in show brought you may come to sit down with the children of Christ in the Faith tha● leads up unto Eternal Life which if it may appear I shall hope you insides may come to be much better known then they are now being through Faith washed in the blood of the Lamb whatever your outside ●e And you my old Acquaintance to you I write as one from God that have found mercy from believing and depending upon his Name by Jesus Christ who is the glass that you may see his glory in him being ●is glass in whose Face the glory of the Father only can be seen and ●●owing that your inward Man of your hearts is in bondage by the ●onds of darkness in your inward deeps and that those bonds cannot ●e broken by any but by Christ that hath the key to open the book and ●o break off the Seals I do pray that the eyes of your minds may be en●ightned to look up to him by that ingrafted word of Faith which ●akes of him as the hand his Spirit to unlock the shut up gates of our hearts that the King of Glory may come in which hitherto being lock●d up the Prisoner of hope cannot come forth although it has the promise from the covenant that God hath made to Christ that by his blood ●e will send it forth out of the deep Pit wherein there is no waters And therefore I say to you that the Principle upon which you bot●om being not Christ but light of and in Nature is nor that that can ●eliver your Souls out of the Jaws of Death and bring you into the ●and of rest for worm Jacob the hidd n man in the heart obtaineth ●ot unto Gods salvation although for it is ordained from ●he purchasement of our Lord Jesus Christ till that the bright ●eams of the Lord the Christ shines into the heart from the Lamb ●hat sits with God upon the Throne for the goodly Tents of Jacob is a ●abitation of light in the Lord and Christ the Lord who is his light when he appears brings the light for his rest the streams whereof make ●lad the City of my God which light of Christ being from above ●s the supernatural light whose issuing beams no man knows nor can ●now but the elect of God to whom it is given through the Faith that 〈◊〉 in him And my old Friends I would that I might freely speak to you without offence then would I say that the light that is in you as you are creatures by make from the first Adam is not the light of which I speak that is his habitation for his Saints For he that said I am the light and he that believes on me shall not walk in darkness but I will raise them up at the last day is Christ Jesus who was put to death in the flesh b● justified in the Spirit that he may give light and life to all them th● believe on him and in Faith obey to the receiving of the promise b● of the light of and in man he saith if the light in you be darkness how gre● is that darkness but of the light that proceeds from the Sun thus he spea● the light shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehendeth it not whi●● being the light that doth accompany the gospel is the salvation of the Saint that the gospel hath purchased for them of which he said ear hath not hear nor eye hath not seen what the father hath prepared for them that love him Which being the light of the Gospel far excels the light in Natu● which God as Soveraign Lord hath planted in mans heart for ma● guide to lead him out of himself to Christ the second Adam by who● the entring in is into the rest that God hath prepared for them befo● the World was made And my old friends I would that none of you fall short of entring into his rest by unbelief through the zeal you bear to your Preacher that teach you an entrance by work of obedience to the light of Natu● in you for verily such Preachers preach to you voluntary humil● that they may glory in your flesh Wherefore it doth remain to y● to walk in the way that is appointed that leads up into his rest least any mistakes by witchcraft in Spirit you take the way of your own i●vention and fall short of entring into his rest For that it is cert●● that by no other way under Heaven we can enter into this rest b● by Faith in him who is both Lord and Christ For him hath God s●ed Wherefore look ye up unto him who is arisen from the dead a is ascended into the majesty on high where the principalities a● powers and thrones fall down and worship the antient of days and Lamb that sits upon his throne For Christ of whom we speak hath 〈◊〉 off the Grave and is arisen from the T●mbs in which he was laid Christ of whom you speak the light in you it is in the Grave and Grave-cloaths wraps it up in the deeps of your heart from ●here cannot come forth but by him who is the Resurrection of the deed wh● voice being heard within your hearts your dead hearing the voice the Son of God comes forth and lives and without his voice 〈◊〉 you up you dye eternally whatever you say from your believing in ●itness of your consciences for your Saviour For here it is not of ●n thrt willeth nor of him that runneth but of God that sheweth a mercy ●ake heed that no man deceive you For the Spirit foreseeing what ●ould be in the latter days foretold a departure from the Faith and at men should rise up bringing in most o amnable Errors denying the ●rd that bought them and many should follow their pernicious ways of ●em the way of truth should be evil spoken off For verily he that entreth ●to his rest must come in by Christ the door without which there is no ●●p But you rejecting him and taking to your selves another way ●nnot enter in into his rest although the gates stand open And you
he should see him at the last day whether if Christ be not Christ in person what is become of the Patriarks and Prophets since for salvation on him they put their trust explain Since in his body as the scriptures say he bore our sins and carried our griefs and was smitten for our transgressions through whose stripes we are healed for that God laid on him the iniquity of us all whether he be to be beleived for Christ in this his personal capacity according to the Scriptures or that the light in the conscience a measure of which every man hath that is born into the world be he the Christ of which nothing in the Scriptures explain for that the Scriptures say that by the death of the body upon the cross he reconciled us unto God and that he foretold his death and that he would raise it up from death in three days VVhether Christ as he is King Preist and Prophet whom God hath made higher then the Heavens be the Christ that appeared to his disciples after his resurrection from the dead in that body he bid them handle and see saying it is I myself for a spirit hath not flesh and bones as I have or the light in your consciences is the Christ that God hath exalted higher then the Heavens as King Priest and Prophet explain And in that Christ was transfigured in his Apostles sight with the appearance of Moses and Elias on the Mount whether was he transfigured as Christ in his person without them or was it the light in his Apostles consciences within them explain Since they said Master it is good that we stay here let us make three Tabernacles one for Thee one for Moses and one for Elias And in that it is said concerning Christs ascention while he was speaking these things he was taken up and a cloud received him out of their sight and this same Jesus shall so come in like manner as you have seen him go into Heaven whom the Heaven must receive until the time of restitution of all things whether he thus ascended be not now Christ the glorified of the Father WITHOUT us as well as he was Christ when he was upon earth WITHOUT them explain And in that he said I ascend to my Father and your Father to my God and to your God whether he spoke of himself as the Christ personal in ● body without them or of a Christ you call light within you explain ●or that the faith of his Disciples was on him as Christ without them ●s their Doctrine by the Scriptures at large doth show And if the light that was in his Apostles consciences was not Christ but he their Master who taught them to beleive on him to be 〈◊〉 the Christ that believing they might be saved whether you by affirming that the witness in you is Christ which witness you call light ●e not a Christ of your inventions and ANOTHER CHRIST ●hen what is the Christ of God explain And in that it saith he that hath not the spirit of Christ is none of his and that none can receive the spirit but he who beleiveth on Christ who is the giver of the spirit whether the spirit you walk by is the spirit of Christ or the power of Magick explain since you deny him to be the Christ that in his p●rson was the offering for sin and the Saviour of the world and instead of him set up the light of nature to be the Christ and its power for your Saviour Whether the revelation that was given to John was given by Christ the glorified of the Father in his person in heaven or from Johns light in his conscience John being on earth explain Whether the Lamb that sits upon the throne of the antient of days who was dead and is alive and lives for evermore be Christ and giver of eternal life to them that believe and follow him in the regeneration or the light in conscience a measure whereof every man hath that cometh into the world be Christ explain for that the light in every mans conscience is the light of creation but the gift of God is the spirit of Christ that brings unto the travelling soul the light of Christ by revelation according to the promise through beleiving on him Whether the blood of Christ that attoned for man with God was blood quatenus blood from and off his humanity or the life of Christ as Christ is God is it without the blood of his humanity the attoner explain and if it be the life in Christ as Christ is God that attones and the blood of Christ as Christ is man not that that doth attone show how the life of God is blood and unto what use it served his shedding of the blood of his man-hood Whether the righteousness of Christ that Christ puts upon his Saints be not the righteousness of Faith by believing on him as justifier from his perfect obedience to God by his fulfilling the requirings of God in the Law explain for that it is written blessed is the ●●rn whose sins are pardoned and whose iniquities are covered again blessed is the man to whom God imputeth not sin Quaeries upon the fifth page WHether since you say that God hath so loved the World that he hath given his only begotten Son to dye for the World that they ●●at believe on him should not perish but have everlasting Life whether ●hat Son of God be Christ that the Angels told the Shepherds was that ●ay born for a Saviour whom they should find laid in a manger who was wrapt up in swadling cloaths whose name God said should be called Jesus or is the light in conscience that within you he explain Whether he that was conceived of the Holy Ghost and born of the Virgin Mary as he persona ly walked upon the Earth in substance of a Man be Christ and the only begotten Son of God and Mans Saviour is thus he was without them or is the light in conscience the Christ and the Saviour as it is light in conscience within man explain Whether Christ or the Apostles at any time taught the light in man for the Christ and the Saviour or Christ the man in person without them for the Christ and Saviour explain Whether Christ that came into the VVorld to save the World who while he was in the World was the light of the World being gone out of the World unto his Father be not now the light of the World by the ministration of preaching through the operation of his Spirit as he was the light of the world when in the world by the ministration of preaching of his death sufferings and resurrecition explain Since his being in the world was to work Salvation for the world by his death and being gone out of the world now manifests the Salvation which while being in the world he wrought being risen from the dead Whether the Faith of Gods elect that purifieth the heart and giveth
that Christ shed for cleansing from all sin or by Faith see the merit of the blood shed upon the Cross to the receiving the promise to wit the Spirit that cleanseth the conscience from all sin Whether Christ is the true light as he is the Son of God personally come in flesh without man or the light in the conscience be the true light and Saviour that is in Man explain Whether since we are to wait upon Christ for the receiving of his Spirit is Man to wait upon the light in his conscience as his Christ and giver of the Spirit or upon Christ who is without him as the Christ and sender of the true Spirit explain Whether Peters witness in his conscience who confessed to Christ to be the Son of God who had the words of Eternal Life was not as much God and Christ as the witness in you explain Whether Peter trusted in the witness in his conscience for his Saviour or expected Salvation by it and not in Christ that said unto him when thou art converted strengthen the b●ethren explain Whether Cornelius that feared God and walked righteously before him in Prayers Fastings and giving of Alms from an awakened conscience that stood in subjection to God had Salvation from the light in his conscience or from Christ the Son of God whom Peter preached to him for Saviour without him explain Whether Cornelius did believe the witness in his conscience to be God and Christ and to this witness as God or Christ Fasted Prayed and gave Alms that by his works his witness as God or Christ should save him or did he believe on God who hath made the Heavens and the Earth whose dwelling is in that high and lofty place of Eternity explain And being said Zacheus this day is Salvation come to thy house whether it was Christ that brought Salvation who that day came to him he being the Saviour that gives Salvation or Zacheus light in his conscience that that day brought Salvation unto h● explain Whether the witness or light in Pauls conscience that lead h● to persecute the church of Christ from his zeal he had to Go● being instructed in Moses Law was God Christ or Saviour Christ even Jesus of Nazareth who spoke to him in a bright shini● light out of Heaven Saul Saul why persecutest thou me explain Since it is said Christ in you the hope of Glory whether Chri●● be in Man before he is revealed by God in Man explain For is written that the Spirit of Christ the World cannot receiv● because said he they do not believe on me And Christ being revealed in Man whether it means himself i● person or his Spirit who give the knowledge of God in the Fac● of Christ by bringing in the light of Christ in which he is gloryf●ed into tho heart that fills the heart with exceeding joy in believing explain Since that Paul saith While in the body absent fre●● the Lord and thence desires to go hence to be present with the Lord. And in that the body must be put off for that it hinders the inward Man in its being with the Lord Quaery what is this inward man Is it a creature or is it God Is it the Spirit of Man that God said he would not always contend with for if he should i● would fail before him and the Soul that God hath made or is it Christ explain And the inward man of the heart being absent from Christ the Lord whilst it is in this body whether Christ as he is in his own being be not distinct and apart of himself without and separate from his creatures and the Man in heart distinct and apart as a creature and own self subsistence explain Whether the ownness of Christ and his Saints be such an incorporated unity that from their conjunction with him they are o● Christ without seperability or whether the Union of the Saints 〈◊〉 God and Christ be the heavenly injoyment wherein the is fel●wship with God and Christ in the light explain Since in divine writ it is said of God I the Lord create the darkness 〈◊〉 form the light whether the light that God formed is not natural 〈◊〉 since it is also said if the light in you be darkness how great is that ●dness which light in man being his sight is it of any other quality 〈◊〉 the light of nature which God hath formed explain And the light in man being but a formed light that God hath created ●hether this light be Christ the son of God as the word that was ●od that with the creature is become the Christ and mans Saviour ●●plain And since of man it is written that he is the Image of God whether he 〈◊〉 the Image of God as God is God in his Deity or is the Image of ●od in a creatural form from Gods principles of nature explain And if man be the Image of God in his Deity as God is God who out and beyond all nature and creature how is it possible otherwise be but so many men so many Gods explain and if this could in ●y possibility be admitted then is not the omnipotency in the crea●re as a God and if so how is it possible for him to be condemned And since the light and darkness is the creation of god and but his ●eation it is manifest the creation is not he himself and the creature ●ing a substance created out of nature having in him darkness and ●ght whether the creature in his creat be as a creature any thing more ●t a creature consisting of a natural make explain And since the Body returns to dust and the Spirit to God that gave 〈◊〉 what is the nature of that body and its properties and what is the ●ature of the Spirit and the properties of it in that it goeth to God ●at gave it at the breaking of the body since it never dyeth but abideth ●ever explain And since you say that the soul of Man is not a creature and that th● soul is saved or damned and that the soul is of an Eternal subsistency whether if the soul is no creature is it God and if God doth he sav● part of himself in some men and part of himself in others damn explain For the rest of your Paper I pass it over acknowledging that thes● principles for yours have been published to the World before now to wit 1. That the light of or in conscience a measure whereof every man hath that comes into the world is Christ the Justifier th● advocate the mediator the Redeemer and the Saviour 2 That th● sufferings death resurrection and ascention of Christ and his blood i● but the professors stuff 3. That Christ was not Christ in his person but that which was Christ was something that was in his person 4. That Christ dyed not for satisfaction but for example 5. Tha● the mercy of God without any satisfaction by Christ made to God fo● man doth save the creature as