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A89857	A vindication of truth, as held forth in a book, entituled, Love to the lost, from the lies, slanders and deceits of T. Higgenson, in a book, called, A testimony to thc [sic] true Iesus. But he is discovered to hold forth another Iesus then what the Scriptures hold forth, or the saints witness. / I.N.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1656 (1656)	Wing N326; Thomason E886_8; ESTC R202994	44,930	58

9 10. 1 Thes 4. 3. 1 Tim. 2. 4. These with many other Scriptures will prove what I have said prove thy consequence as thou canst Thou sayes also If the second be so then the Law and free grace is the same So by thy doctrine and consequence if that Comforter Christ speaks on which reproves the world of sin and the light of Christ be free grace then the law and free Grace are the same a strange consequence like the former Is not the light of the world free grace John 8. 12. John 16. 8. and the Spirit of God free grace If that be not then what is seeing Christ and the Spirit is denied Further sayest thou If the light God hath put into all men be the gift of grace the gift of heavenly righteousness by Christ wherein is the end of the law and sin heeded I say what thou intends by thy consequence by sin heeded let the Reader judge if he can but that the light is the gift of grace that I own and wert not thou blind thou would not imagine any light of God given to man which is not the gift of grace it must either be of grace or of works and what work hast thou done to obtain the gift of Christ light Thou sayes If the third be so then there is that in the natural man whereby he is able to know and receive the things of the Spirit I say Thy Charge in this is a lie not my words and thy consequence is of the same vote and so to thee I leave them being thy own work to say and gainesay but that the light of Christ who ever minds it and follow it is able to lead to receive the things of the Spirit that I have proved John 8. 12. and divers other places Another deceit to cast a mist over the light is thou sayes The deep things of God his grace in Christ sparkling in the old time now in one promise now in another and foretold by the Prophets whereof the Righteousness of the Fews Philosophers and Grecks knew nothing this cannot be discovered by the clearest light in the natural man I say Here are two deceits covered in this first as though none of the Jews or Saints did discern this before Christ came at Jerusalem the second as though the clearest light with which Christ enlightneth men within could not lead to the discerning of him which are both contrary to Christs words who saith Abraham saw my day and to the Prophets he was born Isaiah 9. 6. And saith Christ I am the light of the world he that follows me shall have the light of life John 8. 12. And so with the words of truth thy mist is driven away and the truth cleared from thy deceits And then as thou begun thy work with lies so thou ends with two lies more thou casts upon us That we level the mystery of the second Adam and the restoring of all things in him to be no other thing but Law and Reason Secondly That we make the death of Christ of none effect and the whole mystery of grace in him But seeing thou dost falsly slander us herein I shall state the case truly as it is in this Question Whether they that believe Christ died at Jerusalem and witness his bloud in them whereby their hearts are sprinkled and washed from lying deceit and pride and uncleanness by the in-dweiling of Christ in them so kept according to the measure of Christ revealed in Spirit Or they who say that Christ died at Jerusalem but deny him in them to redeem and save them from the power of sin or his bloud in them to sprinkle and wash them daily from dead works Or any light of his whatsoever either within or without to be exercised in to freedom and perfection but say they were washed sanctified and justified before they came into the world but in the world are found liars and false accusers and deceitful teachers this being the true case between thee and us I leave it to the wise to judge who it is that denies Christ Jesus the everlasting Priest which abideth for evermore to every generation and who it is that makes his bloud of none effect as to wash away sin and to restore all things to God and whether the effect of the bloud of Christ be to take away sin or to talk on whereby to plead for sin against the present being and effect thereof to wit to keep out of the Devils works Now who owns the bloud of Christ let the effect manifest to all men And know thou that the bloud of Christ is not words not imaginations of what thou never see before thou was born but a living substance which is to be known with its effect to every particular Saint in every generation and such who say they are saved by the bloud of Christ before they were but now are found in their sins are such as deny the bloud of Christ and to them they make it of none effect who are not washed and they who say they was purged sanctified and justified before they were and now when they are are unclean boasts of that they never saw and trusts in a lie for talking what Christ was by the history is one thing which all have and believe and yet abide in condemnation and without further may perish but to learn Christ in the mystery of faith which is held in a pure Conscience is another and onely such know him aright both what he did at Jerusalem and the end of it who follow him now in spirit and have fellowship in his death and sufferings and so attains to his resurrection in the spirit and life and so follow in his life and righteousness such onely confess him and shall not therein be condemned Much more might be said to lay open thy deceits in thy other part of thy book but my life is not to rifle in such heaps of confusion were it not that I am forced to it for clearing the truth from false Teachers who are wholly ignorant of the mystery of faith which is held in a pure Conscience and so know nought but in the natural comprehensions as brute beasts judging of the great mystery of God and his redemption to stand in visibles and carnal things times and places which things in their carnal wisdom they make use on to fight against the spiritual appearance of Christ in the Creature without which there can be neither life nor redemption No Christ himself onely known after the flesh brings no man to God but Christ revealed in spirit from heaven that everlasting Light and Glory of the Father the eternal Spirit and Comforter that could not come till he went away in the flesh And if his presence was not the full accomplishment of the great promise of the Father and the Son but he must go away in the flesh out of their carnal sight no more to be in the world carnally but in

the flesh hast thou not here wholly excluded the light of Christ as to be exercised therein for freedom and perfection before thou did but deny it Within but now thou hast denied all light whatsoever both from within and without for bringing to freedom or perfection so that henceforth all that will own thy doctrine must beleive to be perfected in the dark for all light whatsoever thou hast excluded so that a Christ without light must now be beleived by all that own thy faith or doctrine and indeed it suits well with thy practise witness thy many lie in thy book which are not works of the day Further thou sayes That the light within every man is not the way to the Spirit of Christ which I need not think strange seeing thou hast denied all light Also thou sayest That the works of the Law and the waiting of the Light within are all one if any man will beleive thy blind testimony Thou sayest That principle may lead to a spirit of activity for God in the contemplations of him as a pure and holy God but it is a far other principle that is Christ crucified for us and the faith of him that leads unto that Spirit of peace And so by thy doctrine there are two principles that leads to God the one far off the other But must we beleive this because thou sayest it when not one of the holy men of God thou canst instance who ever said that that Spirit that led to contemplations of the pure God was a far other principle than that of Christ that leads to peace Christ saith No man knoweth the Father but he to whom the Son reveals him Math. 11. 27. But thou sayes It s a far other principle that brings to contemplations of a pure God That blind spirit of thine clearly showes what thou knows of contemplations with God who denies the principle of Christ to lead thereto but it is like the rest of thy blind stuffe who would make people beleive that the light of Christ leads to blot out the the healing in the person of Christ surely a blinder peice of work hath not been seen but it must needs be so with thee who hath denied all light and art fighting against it Concerning error heresie c. HEre thou tels us thy former lie over again saying that I say That the light within every man is the spirit of truth and then thou tels how thou hast disproved it before and so flaidly fals into another discourse not at all to the purpose as to my words yet adds another lie saying That we beleive in God as by the light in men redeeming from sin but not as in the man Jesus having done it already and that we deny the witness of the Son and that we have neither Son nor Father which is but thy threefold cord of wickedness Thou adds another in thy conclusion and sayes It is not an errour to divide from the light within so by thy doctrine we may divide from the spiritual light of Christ and not erre but how shouldest thou count it an error to divide from the light within who hast excluded all manner of light within and without also whatever to be exercised in as the way to perfection If it be not an error to divide from the light then it must be an error to divide from the darkness for there is but these two and the one must needs be an error But it is easily seen whose word thou drives who art set to oppose the light such a work as none of Gods was ever found in wert thou not blind thou might suspect thy self who cannot produce one of thy faith in the Scripture Concerning Faith IN this accusation also is two lies first that I say that the light in every man is Gods righteousness perfection Secondly thou sayes I say not a word of the faith in the person of Christ or the operation of God in him for us The first never spoken of by me To the second my words are these That the living faith is in Christ Jesus and that true faith layes hold on Gods Righteousness and by it comes to be created in Christ Jesus unto good works Gods workmanship Is this not a word of the person of Christ nor the operation of God in him Can one own Christ Jesus and deny faith in the person of Christ Or can one witness Gods workmanship in him and not one word of the operation of God in him Oh shameless man how doest thou bend thy tongue for lies and slanders Further thou sayest that the scope of our doctrine in the height and depth of it seems plainly this that a measure of the eternal divinity is in every man by turning where unto out of all sayings operations Scriptures or Christ without the same doth purge away sin and redeems unto God All which is no more but thine own wickedness heaped up from thy foregoing lies Then thou comest to thy doctrine And that is to look away from all voice of conscience within and from all things in the heart whether good or evil and to look to Jesus with out though we be in bondage and this thou sayes is to receive the righteousness of Christ by faith But where doest thou receive this righteousness or with what is it seen or what effect hath it seeing thou hast denied all voices in the conscience all things in the heart and conclude the creature in bondage they are blind indeed who cannot see this righteousness of thine thou lookest too without any thing in the heart or conscience to be but meer imagination a talk of righteousness which thou hast not in thee And in thy next having forgot thy doctrine sayes That by him all that beleive are justified from all things by the Law of the Spirit according to the Conscience from which they could not be justified by the Law of Moses And also saves That the answer of a good Conscience in the resurrection of Jesus will be found to be that which saves before God and brings forth the true glory within What confusion is here Must all voices of the conscience be denied and yet justified by the Law of the Spirit according to the Conscience and saved by the answer of a good Conscience and must we be justified by the law of the Spirit and the works of the Law written within be denied and called the flesh and must we be set free and justified from all these things by the Law of the Spirit and the answer of a good Conscience and yet in bondage And after thou hast said We must be justified by the Law of the Spirit according to the Conscience and saved by a good Conscience then thou confutes that again and saith The Law in the Conscience which is holy just and pure is the same with the Covenant of works and sayes how holy and pure soever it be it shall not preserve blameless Was there ever such a heap of

Is not that like to be a blind salvation which is within and must not be looked at But it seems thou hast followed thy doctrine in thy practise for hadest thou looked to any thing of God in thy heart or to the answer of a good Conscience it would have put a stop to the numberless number of thy lies and confusion in thy book but a large liberty the Devil hath when nothing must be looked too in the heart or conscience either good or bad to beleive in or follow for salvation out of sin and yet thou sayes We must be saved according to the inward man which inward man must onely be for you to talk on but must not be looked at Thou further sayes That to know Christ onely as within is an error Yet doth not shew how a man might know him otherwise than he is revealed within nor is he known as he ought to be since his Ascention any other way but onely as he revealeth himself in Spirit within onely you imagine you know him who never saw him heard him felt him or understood him otherwise than by his Spirit within and what a knowledge that is which is void of all these is easily seen to them where he is revealed though hear-say Teachers with their litteral knowledge was ever blind But seeing thou sayest It is an error to know him onely within What sayest thou of the A postle doctrine who exhorts to know Christ no more after the flesh 2 Cor. 5. 16 Must not their knowledge then be onely after the Spirit which must be no more after the flesh But however he be known thou hast denied him if he be light either within or without who sayes To abide in any light what soever either from within or without and to be exercised therein as to be perfected thereby or redeemed from sin is to worship God in the flesh Concerning Love ANd thy Charge in this is that I say It is the love of God to the world whereby he hath given every man a light to condemn sin in the flesh and take it away through walking after the Spirit and that this love of God in the creature doth not flatter sin in others c. This Charge is not altogether so false as the rest though not wholly true For I do not say That the light in every man is Gods Son though I own it to be the light of the Son that lighteth every man that comes into the world therefore my words are That God so loved the world that he gave his Son into the world a light to condemn sin in the flesh that the righteousness of God might be fulfilled in the creature and my witness for this is Christ and his Apostles John 3 16. to the 22. Rom. 8. 1 2 3 4 and this thou seems to oppose but dare not plainly deny it onely thou hast power over that of the Charge as far as thy own lie reacheth and no further And to that thou sayes was this great and abounding love in sending his Son no more but God giving a light in all men as though I had said so which is but thine own deceit to set up a lie of thy own to fight with But I say Gods great love is more than the light for he hath given his Son who is not onely that light but to all that beleive therein and follow it he leads them out of darkness thereby and gives them the light of life John 8. 12. who doth not onely condemn sin in the flesh but fulfils the righteousness of the Law in them who walk after the Spirit and this is my restimony of the love of God which was Christs testimony and his A postles and so thy lie be upon thy own head and what I have written stands still unshaken onely thou mutters that any body should be told of their sin and would have us tell people their sins are forgiven and that they are justified and saved and that Christ is come down in your flesh and therein hath quenched anger enmity sin and death with all things that may separate from God And this we may tell to such as thee who openly denies Christ in thy flesh yea and in all other row to do any such thing for salvation from sin so how can we say that Christ is come in your flesh and therein through death hath done all this and not lie especially seeing that you do not onely deny him within you in words but also see the anger enmity sin and death unquenched which hath so far separated thee from God that thou denies God Christ and his Righteousness and all that may be called light in thee for salvation should not we be abominable liars like thee if we should say Christ had done all this in thy flesh thou thy self would prove us liars who denies it both in word and practise And when thou hast thus been teaching us to cry peace even whilest sin is in them to confound thy self in this as in the rest thou sayest There is a generation that flatters and spares in sin them whom the Lord condemns this thou sayes is to justifie the wicked To which I say were thou not heart blind and so knows not what thou speaks thou would never set us on crying peace where God cries wo in the Conscience for living in sin least we justifie the wicked and be guilty of that abomination thoutels of Concerning Judgement THy Charge in this is That my words summoned up are that the light in every man condemning sin is the ministration of judgement and condemnation and as it is received is salvation and redemption from all uncleanness c. To which I answer Deceit hath summed them up and hath thrust in it self amongst them as in the rest Have I said That the light in every man is salvation and redemption Let them that reads what I have said judge of thy dealing herein for my words are That true judgement as it is known to men is a gift from the Spirit of God set in the heart of every one that dwels in the light of Christ and this is far from thy sayings who would make people beleive that I say That the light as it is in every man is salvation and redemption for there be many that will not be led to the Redeemer therewith nor to the Spirit of judgment but deny all light within and without as thou doest and to these it is condemnation and not salvation but to all that own the Spirit of judgment which passeth upon that which is contrary to the Life of God such come to be redeemed with judgment and to such as abide therein doth light and salvation spring up to the redeeming the heart from all uncleanness as I have writ in my Book which thou canst not contradict And in thy doctrine thou sayest That as Christ in every age hath come forth more or less so in this age he will come forth in righteousness

But thy message is not any thing which is called light whatsoever either from within or without for redemption and here thou art seen to be he that preaches another Gospel They preached the Gospel of light and thy Gospel is no light whatsoever so thou art accursed and they that follow thee in that faith which denieth all light whatsoever Concerning Obedience IN this thou makes divers things of thine own never spoken nor thought by me thou sayes They are the sum of things spoken by me which indeed are but the foam of thy slanderous spirit As first As to be guided in obedience to the spirit or light within us as Christ was by the Spirit of the Father in him that is the righteousness of Christ that the Father cals for the same obedience of the beleiver as of Christ and that I say we are perfectly justified by Christs obedience when we perform obedience in the same measure he did And divers other untruths hast thou forged thereby to slander the truth as though I held forth two obediences as one of Christs and another of the Creatures And that the Creature must come up as high in his obedience as Christ did in his and such like wicked stuffe thou utters as one having sold thy self thereto bending thy tongue like a bow for lies to shoot at the truth in secret but thy arrows must peirce thy own bowels and the Archer into the wilderness must be driven but the truth shall stand for ever And all that reads what I have written may see that I have denied all sorts of obedience from Scriptures or others wrought by man or in mans will and owns onely that everlasting obedience that is in Christ to which every one must give up themselves as is oftentimes repeated by me That it is no more we that live but Christ that liveth in us and no further than we partake of his obedience in us are we accepted with the Father as Obedient children which might have stopt the mouth of the Liar hadst thou not done it wickedly And when thou hast done thou pretendest to reprove thy lying slanders with the same spirit of slander giving out filthy words of thine own as though I had lifted up my self equal with the Person of Christ to persorm the same obedience for the purging away of sin c. Oh thou full of all subtilty and wickedness where did I ever set up my self equal with Christ or ever set up any obedience of mine distinct from his or ever spoke of self obedience for the purging away of sin canst thou behold this thy wickedness and not be ashamed or didst thou think ever to account for thy words thy heart could not but tremble at this wickedness but the devil having set up an opinion in thee of being justified without faith or repentance for all thy sins past present and to come like the Pope hath given thee a dispensation to wickedness so that there is now no stop to thy tongue whatsoever he moves thee to say for to advance his kingdom of darkness thou art ready at his command Thou sayes Thou art one of the least in thy Fathers house But it seems by thy language thou hast been an apt Scholler and very diligent in his service and thou must look for thy wages when thy work thou hast finished Thou cals them Pagans who design not to know another way to divine glory than Christ did and sayes That way is but the depth of Satan Oh thou blasphemer Is it the depth of Satan to follow Christ in his way and not to design another Sure the other way thou hast designed is lying and deceit for that way I find thee in but the Way Christ Jesus I own and so far as I am led therein by the same power so I walk and it is not I but Christ in me who is the Way and the Life whose way is not without a Mediator as thou would make it to cover thy blasphemy for calling it a depth of Sathan for if that way he walked in was without a Mediator then was there a time when he was not a Mediator Thou asks me If I have not the fulness of the Godhead in my self I say In self it is not but of Christ I receive of the same fulness And many other Questions thou asks which are all in him wherein is my treasure walking in the same way who is the mystery to be beleived and example to be followed which is not two things as thou falsly sayes but one Thou sayes He put an end to the enmity and all evils in himself I say That is true but he hath not put an end to it in thee there it lives and reigns as thy lying and confusion may witness Thou sayes As thou art in the second Adam thou neither knows law reason nor sense I say It seems so by thy practise Thou sayes Nothing brings forth Christ more as a Spirit of wisdom power and holiness within thee unto good works then when thou beholds him as made righteousness and sanctification to thee without works I say stop thy mouth and utter not thy confusion Is Christ made righteousness and sanctification to some without works And is he now become the spirit of holiness within thee unto good works who hath so oft denied any thing within to be minded in heart or conscience Other lies thou tels Of dyings and obedience in us being made the way to justification in Christ and that by my doctrine ne are justified as much by the obedience of Paul as by the man Christ And such like fulthy things which follow thy own brain and not my doctrine neither can any honesty gather any such thing there from but the unclean spirit is vexed that I deny a justification before faith and with out righteousness Concerning good works ANd here thou charges me falsly also As that I should hold out the creature obedience unto the light which reproves of sin and is bringing forth the fruits of it for good works and for redemption which is utterly false for my account is that all should wait in the light of Christ and abide in it until the living word they come to hear and receive in their hearts whereby the dead comes to be raised to life which was dead in trespasses and sins and that spiritual man being quickened the power of the Spirit brings forth in him the work of Gods righteousness which was from everlasting and this is another thing than the Creature working onely from that light that reproves sin so that my words doth exhort such to stand still till they see the salvation of God and the word of his power revealed therein by which he must be created or wrought into the good work that he may walk therein Another thing thou sayes that I say the obedience or righteousness in Christ for justification and good works in us are one thing I say That the works of God and righteousness in

Christ are one thing from the beginning of the world in Christ in whom ever he is according to its several measure and ends but if thou intend Creature works though the most refined that ever was I utterly deny them and thy accusation as false like the rest and so having cleared the truth from thy slanders and set it where it was I shall come to thy doctrine And thou speaks of the everlasting onely righteousness upon all that beleive and that it is as a spiritual heaven large enough to take in and cover the second creation I say that is true But what is that to thee that art in the first creation It doth not cover thee thy wickedness is seen thy lies are laying open thy nakedness appears and thy folly to all men Onely thou sayest thou reckonest thy self to be so though it be not so felt I say I know it there were ever a generation that justified themselves but were not just before God and thine will be found no other who reckons thy self justified by that which thou hast neither seen felt nor handled And thou sayes Thou thinks it necessary to give warning that all approaches unto or converses with the Majesty and glory of God by any redemption or operation of whatsoever spirit or light within where the redemption in the person of Christ is excluded To which I say Thou shews thy dark busie mind and what thou knows of approaches to God or converses with his majesty and glory who imagines that that can be where the redemption of Christ is excluded Thou sayes But if any ask how thou art redeemed while sin is in thee thou sayest the Father he laid your sins upon Christ to take them away and the Spirit bears witness that all things are finished I say that is true where repentance and faith is where by the creature denies himself and comes to Christ there Christ takes the sins away But thy sins are there yet and thou a servant thereof and the Spirit bears witness in the conscience against thee for it and the best way thou hast to peace is to stifle the witness of the Spirit in thy conscience and exhort others not to heed it Thou sayes Through faith thou receives Christ into thy self and thou art received into him and through this oneness art made righteousness life and light But how oft hast thou denied this or any thing within to be looked unto Art thou now become righteousness life and light thy self and was condemning it as great error in me in thy last to witness good works in Christ Art thou become righteousness thy self light and life and wilt thou not allow another to testifie the works of Christ in him Thy charity is either selfish or thou knows not what thou sayes and ere thou go out of that page thou contradicts it thy self again denies redemption by the operation of that Spirit that is within us so that which makes thee righteousness life and light by thy doctrine cannot work redemption and thus thou tottereth to and fro having undertaken a business and would seem to say something and so being out of the light makes up a heap of confusion And as thou begins with a lie so thou ends saying That I say that all the works and measures performed by the Creature in obedience to the light within do but all compleat the one work of the Creature redemption And when thou hast told this falshood thou sets down a story of Luther wherein he divides Abraham and his righteousness as far a sunder as between heaven and earth So to answer thee and thy story I shall produce one plain Scripture from James 2. from the 14. to the end of the Chapter Was not thou even now telling of being made righteousness into thy self and now brings a story to divide Abrahams righteousness as far from him as heaven from earth and much such staggering thou makest but the end of all is to keep righteousness out of the door that thy master may have liberty within Concerning Election and Reprobation ANd this thou begins to lay a foundation with a lie and what thy building is like to be may be easily judged Thou sayeth I say That the light in every man which reproves of sin is Christ And when thou hast told that lie and denied it again then thou confessest what I say that Christ is the elect seed but dare not say that any one is elected who is not in that seed onely thou tels a blind story that thou was redeemed before thou was born but art yet a servant of the devil who was a liar from the beginning and his works thou art doing onely thou conceits thou art redeemed and such a redemption the prophanest I know in the Nation claims it with thee upon the same ground and hath as good right as thou hast for any thing yet thou hast made manifest Concerning the new Birth HEre thou sets on work in thy old manner as one that cannot cease from sin First Thou chargeth me to say That by abiding in the seed or light within every man thereby the old man is put off with his deeds Secondly That I call the light the eternal Spirit Thirdly That I make the body and bloud of Christ no more but a figure of the body and bloud within that is the light within all men Fourthly And that my end is to press through unto God by an Atonement and mediation to be made in our bodies that is obedience to the light within And when thou hast told these four horrible lies on me then thou goes on in thy doctrine but dare not gain say one word of what I have written but runs into thy old confusion and sayes The new Creature is not a Jew seeking salvation in the letter or Conscience nor a Gentile worshipping God by the light and sayes the worlds light is a candle from the Lord saying do this and live And divers more such confusions which hath no truth in them neither hast thou any proof for them with sundry accusations and slanders thou goes on which are nothing to the purpose as to the thing in hand and having forme ly denied them I shall not here rake in them but let them not with thee Then thou speaks of persecution thou sayest They that followed after the Spirit and teachings thereof were alwayes persecuted by the children of the letter Where thou might read thy self were not thou blind who art breathing out all these lies against us for owning Christ his light within us for our teacher guide for which thy mischeivous mind would make people believe we deny the person of Christ because we own him in spirit when in truth none can own his person but who sees him in the light the rest are the children of the letter and hath no ministration else to know Christ by who can imagine from the History but are void of the Mystery which is held in a pure

them spiritually which is the Comforter even the Spirit of truth to guide them into all truth and this Christ holds forth as their greater power and comfort Yea and when they had received him so they said though they had known Christ after the flesh they knew him so no more how much less is a talk of him whom you never see neither with out nor within with his presence in spirit which is the main end why he came in the flesh in his own person that through faith in him who was the first begotten from the dead he might appear in spirit in all his and dwell in them guide and govern in them for ever as his dwelling place in this world from generation to generation for evermore in which body he is vailed from the worlds wisdom now as ever he was and in whom he now suffers as he hath ever done I say how much short such are of the knowledge of a living Christ his presence or redemption these times may judge and the fruits thereof for where Christ is the body is dead because of sin and the spirit is life because of righteousness but where a talk of Christ onely is the body of sin lives such would murther him where he is come under a pretence of their denying Christ at Jerusalem when they do not onely believe what he did there but also witness him in them their Saviour at present from sin and the power of Satan which is the end why he came at Jerusalem and with out which the other saves not And for this hast thou setup thy horn against it and hast brought out this heap of confusion to shew thy self blind with the rest of thy earth born brethren who are at strife one with another but now joyned together in open battel against the light of the Lamb which is risen to reveal your dark foundation and that your curious Babel may become a heap of rubbish till there be not left a way in nor our nor a place to hide you And such a heap there of is in the other part of thy book as might fill a volume to repeat and answer but the substance thereof being answered in this foregoing or in other books I shall say little onely give thee and the world a veiw of some few of thy errors and let the Scripture reprove them such as these following Errors THat there are three way to know God when as there is but one way even Christ from the beginning though in several Ministrations John 14. 6. That the knowledge of God according to the Law is Idolatry whereas God hath said I will write my Law in your hearts and you shall know me which is the new Covenant neither was it ever Idolatry to know God after the Law Heb. 8. 8 9 10 11. Jer. 31. 32 34. Jam. 1. 25. That the Doctrine of Devils doth preach a Jesus Gospel and Spirit 2 Cor. 3. 16 17. That all men know God according to his Godhead Mat. 11 27. 1 Cor. 15. 34. 2 Thes 1. 8. That a Man while enclosed enclosed up in a body of sin and death is at the same time raised up into the heavenly Righteousness Immortality and freedom above all sin or shadow of evil Math. 6. 24. Rom. 6. 16. John 8. 34 35 36. Rom. 8. 12. That Christ cannot be seen by the obedience of the Spirit within us 1 Cor. 12. 3. Rom. 8. 14. That those whose root and foundation is what Christ is and hath done in himself but the way to partake of the benefit of it is their union with him such do by lust crucifie his Spirit and Grace within John 15 4 5. That the Gospel being a Mystery of things hid in Christ is neither written nor to be seen in the heart of man 1 Tim. 3. 9. Rom. 10 8 9 10. That the Gospel as a Commandement and Peice of morality may be read and beleived by every man and yet sayes in another place the Gospel is hid from all principles of flesh 2 Cor. 4. 3 4. That the Mystery of God in Christ is not to be known by his enlightening within men 2 Cor 4. 6 7. That the Spirit set up asunder from the letter brings forth a twofold error both perilous and hurtful 2 Cor. 3. 6. Rom. 7. 6. That affirming the Light in the Conscience the way or guide to Christ is a darksom and fleshly principle wherein Christ and his Redemption is forgotten for ever 1 Tim. 1. 19. and 3. 9. That all just Laws of Nations are beams from Christ as he is the Light and Word of God to the natural man but not as he is a Redeemer John 1. 9. and 5. 33. That the Light within for matter and substance is the same with the Law of Moses and was not given for righteousness nor can reveal life Rom. 10 7 8 9 10 2 Cor. 4. 6. That Christ came to deliver us from the light within Luke 11. 34. 35 36. That Christ is no giver of Laws Isai 33. 22. 1 Cor. 9. 21. Jam 4. 12. Rom 8. 2. That Christ set forth as the Word the Light the Truth the Spirit as a Man holy spotless separate from sinners as a living example to the world of perfect obedience to the Law of the Spirit and life of God so denies and blots out the glory of his grace as being the end of the Law Rev. 19. 13. John 8. 12 John 14. 6. Heb. 7. 26. 1 Pet. 2. 21. Rom. 8. 2. That a Man may see himself dead and buried with Christ and raised up together with him and not by any obedience to Christ within 1 Pet. 1. 2. 22. That the Light within is that spirit of this world that hath formed all false resemblances of Christ Luke 11. 34 35. 36. That the true likeness and Image of Christ is not known to the light within 1 Cor. 12. 3. That the conception of Christ as a Law-giver and work is an Idol and the root of all idolatrous Religions James 4. 12. Isay 33. 22. That the Law in the conscience arose against Christ 1 Pet. 3. 21. That a Man is justified from sin while the Light within condemns of sins 1 John 3. 19 20 21. That Jesus Christ came forth and took the work of the Law out of the heart Rom. 2. 15 16. That the Light within accusing for sin pertaineth onely to the flesh John 16. 8 13. That Christ comes not down into our persons as a light accusing for sin John 16. 8 13. That Light within which leads to know God as God and glorifie him as God and returns to God obedience there to just and perfect as God is just and perfect this knows nothing of the Gospel-Ministry God manifested in flesh 2 Cor. 4. 6. That this Light was not given for righteousness which will do all this before mentioned These need no answering to any who have received and felt any thing of God they can all witness that not any thing of God did