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A44834 An answer to a declaration put forth by the general consent of the people called Anabaptists in and about the city of London which declaration doth rather seem a begging of pardon of the Caveliers then [sic] a vindication of that truth and cause once contended for : I seeing so much wickedness ... / from a true lover and owner of the people called Quakers ... Richard Hubberthorn. Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. Answer to a declaration of the people called Anabaptists. 1659 (1659) Wing H3218; ESTC R16813 19,429 25

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will not have any Person Tolerated that worships a false god what must be done with their Persons But what difference is there in the Ground or Cause of Toleration between those that Worship a false god or they which Worship the true God in a false way and if the Persons of neither of those should be Tolerated then the Toleration would but reach a little Compasse But who must be Judge of that Blasphemie Contempt or Reproach spoken against the Lord Jesus Christ Was it not Blasphemie in the Apostles dayes for one to say he was a Jew and was not Revelations 2. verse 9. And is it not as great Blasphemy now to say that he is a Christian or a Believer that is not And must not any person be tolerated that speak such works And must not such a Person be tolerated that denies the Scriptures to be the Word of God then it appears they must not be tolerated that faith in the beginning was the Word as John 1.4 Nor that say that Christ is the Word and that the Scriptures are they which testifieth of him as Joh. 5. And if we search out your toleration to the bottom it will be reduced into this compasse That none shall be tolerated but those that say as you say and professe what you professe and you among your selves are as a Kingdom divided that cannot stand and you are not they which are fit to Rule in the Nation to prescribe Liberty nor give Toleration but if you had been of Christs Spirit you would have professed Toleration and not destruction unto all Persons in matters of Religion and then they that have the Gospel of Christ may minister it freely among those that worship a false god and among those that worship the true God ignorantly and minister it among the Papists Episcopal Presbyterie Heathens Turks and Pagans which are all out of the way and so to convince the gain-sayers so that all the wicked impositions cruelty Persecution and killing one another about Religion would cease and then the Gospel of Peace which is the power of God would Rule over deceit and Truth and Righteousness would increase and spread over the Nations but you have appeared to be of a Spirit of Confusion and Contradiction for when you have spoken against Tolerating the Persons before mentioned Yet you say in Contradiction to it you are not against Tolerating Episcopacie Presbyterie or any stinted Form provided they do not Compel any others to a Compliance therewith or Conformitie thereunto c. Now consider and let even your own foolishness correct you Is not the Papists which ye have excepted against a stinted Form And are not those that worship a false god a stinted Form And are not the Sadduces that deny that there is either God Christ Angel Resurrection or Spirit a stinted Form And is not the Jewes a stinted Form although they speak contempteously of the Lord Jesus Christ which before you have said you will not Tolerate their Persons because they speak contempteously of the Lord Jesus Christ and now you say you will Tolerate because they are a stinted Form How must the Jewes be Converted who have spoken contempteously and reproachfully of the Lord Jesus Christ calling him a Deceiver a Blasphemer and that he ●ad a Devil seeing you will not Tolerate their Persons until they be Converted And how shall the Heathens that worship false gods be Converted seeing their Persons must not be Tolerated And what must be done with those many hundreds of Congregations in England which worship God in the Spirit and yet do deny the Scriptures as Words and Writings of the Old and New Testament to be the Word of God but do confesse them to be a Testimony of the word and of him who is the Beginning and End of the Words in whom and by whom they all come to be fulfilled to the Saints What must their Persons be done with seeing they must not be Tolerated But you may say That those things was spoken in your haste or at least in your fear whereby you were surprized in the Vproar of the rude Boyes and Apprentices of London but a little fear entering into the Hypocrisie doth try your Spirits and cause you to bring forth the intents of your hearts as in your Paper is manifest To the Last you say Forasmuch as we are Charged to Murder and Destroy those that Differ from us in matters of RELIGION We do not only abhor and detest it as a cursed practice but we hope have approved our selves both in this City and the Nation to the contrary notwithstanding the great provocation of some who have endeavoured our Ruine For that we desire is just liberty to men as men that every man may be preserved in his own just rights and that Christians may be preserved as Christians though of different Apprehensions in some things of Religion in the prosecution whereof our lives shall not be dear unto us when we are thereunto lawfully called The Designs of our Adversaries in these Calumnies are to mis-represent us to some People fearing God and also to incense the rude Multitude against us purposely to provoke them if possible to destroy us Answ. In what you have before expressed you have more given then taken away the occasion of this Charge against you by your instancing the not Tolerating of such persons before mentioned for if you did as you say desire the just Liberty of men as men then every man without respect to Apprehensions Perswasions or Worships as a man and person should be Tolerated that those who are Christians might inform them of the true God when they worship false gods and hereby you give great occasion unto those that seek occasion from you when you with a general Consent cry against Tolerating the Persons of so many sorts of People about Differing from you in Religion and as for some of them whom ye would accuse as Irregular many by experience can witnesse That neither Weapon nor Tongue formed against them can prosper and the time may come when you may be glad to be upholden with a little of their strength and not to Reject those whom God hath doth and will own for his People in the middest of their Enemies for God hath made them even as Eyes to behold the Spirits of men and the Changings of their wayes and to give them a Reproof in due season when they darken wisdom and confound their matter by words without knowledge in false fears and haste when they are out of Patience and out of Faith in God as the Baptists here have done and the fearful and unbelieving cannot accomplish the Righteousnes of God neither will he bring forth his intended Work by them but such as are of a true Spirit that looks onely at the Glory of God and setting up of his truth who are come to the spiritual weapons doth not wrestle with flesh and blood but with the powers of darkness and with