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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A30127	A case of conscience resolved viz. whether, where a church of Christ is situate, it is the duty of the women of that congregation, ordinarily, and by appointment, to separate themselves from their brethren, and so to assemble together to perform some parts of divine worship, as prayer, &c. without their men? : And the arguments made use of for that practice examined / by John Bunyan.	Bunyan, John, 1628-1688.	1683 (1683)	Wing B5490; ESTC R41305	30,288	39

31.11 12. Exo. 4.29 Chap. 12.21 Chap. 17.5 Also in after times they were the Elders and chief of the Church that did it Josh. 24.1 Ezra 10.5 6 7 8 9. Acts 14.26 27. Chap. 15.3 Or if their calling together to performe divine Worship was not by the Elders alone Yet it was by the Power that resided in the Church for that thing who joyntly ordered the same Judg. 20.8.18 Ezra 3.1 Zeph. 2.1 2 3. Acts 12.12 1 Cor. 5.4 Chap. 11 20. All these are plain cases But never as I ever did read of in the Bible did Women Ordinary beliving ones assume this Power of the Elders or of the Church to themselves If it be asked who did appoint that Meeting made mention of Acts 12.12 I Answer 'T was appointed by the Power of the Church who for her own conveniencie if she cannot come all into one place at once to perform the Duty as 't is not likely four or five thousand should in times of persecution which was their case may meet some here some there for their Edification and comfort compare Vers. 5. with Vers. 12 and Vers. 17. Nor do I Question the Lawfulness of this or that part of the Churches Assembling together for Prayer Tho the Elders and greatest part of the Brethren be absent If first such MEN that call such Assemblies are countenanced by the Elders or Church to do it 1 Tim. 2.8 2 Tim. 2.22 But that the Sisters of this or that Church may call their own Sex together to perform such Worship by themselves to God for this is the thing in debate I finde no warrant for Secondly Because This kind of Worship when done in and by a Company is MINISTERIAL to that Company as well as petitionary to God That is they that as the mouth in Assemblies Pray to God teach that Assembly as well as beg mercies of him And I finde not that Women may Assemble to do thus That such Prayer is a kind of Ministring in the Word to Standers by consider well 1 Cor. 14.15 16 17 18 19. Wherefore let them keep silence in the Church and in the parts thereof when Assembled to Worship God In all Publick Worship by Prayer Teaching is set on foot two wayes 1. By propounding to that Assembly the things that must by agreement be Prayed for 2. And by proving them to suit with the will of God that Prayer may be made in Faith 1 Joh. 5.14 For all such Prayer must be made for the things agreed upon first and consequently for things that by the Word are proved good and sutable for the Seasons Persons or things for or about which such Prayers are made For they that have Meetings for Prayer without this Pray at random and not by Rule If two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask according to Gods will it shall be done for them saith Christ of my Father which is in Heaven Matt. 18.19 Now I say if things Prayed for in Assemblies must first be joyntly agreed upon then must such things by some one or more of that Assembly be first Propounded Expounded and Proved to be good by the Word Good for such Persons Seasons or things for which such Prayer is made And besides the Gifts required to do this if this is not Teaching I am out And yet this must first be done to instruct all present to help their Faith and to quicken their Spirits to and in that Worship That they may as one Man have their Eyes unto the Lord Zech. 9.1 But that this Power is given to Women to Ordinary believing ones that are in the highest account in Churches I do not believe I do not believe they should Minister to God in Prayer before the whole Church for then I should be a Ranter or a Quaker Nor do I believe they should do it in their own Womanish Assembly for the reason urged before And I will add if Brethren not heretofore called by the Church to open Scriptures or to speak in the Church to God in Prayer are not at first to be admitted to do this but before the Elders or Principal Brethren that they may hear and Judge 1 Cor. 14.26 27 28 29. how can it be thought to be meet or lawful for Women of whom it must be supposed that they have received no such Gifts that they should use this Power I say how can it be imagined that the Women should be bound of God to do this in such Sort as doth utterly exclude the Elders and all the Men in the Congregation from a possibility of understanding and of Judging of what they do And yet this is the Doctrine of Mr. K. For he saith that the Spirit of God is promised to Women to this very end that they may Pray together apart from Men. But God is not the Author of this Confusion in the Churches 2ly But Secondly As teaching by Prayer in Assemblies is thus set on foot so every one also that shall in such Meetings be the mouth of the whole to God Ministreth SO Doctrine to that Assembly as well as presenteth petitions to God Else how can that Assembly say AMEN at their Prayer or giving of thanks For to say AMEN is an effect of Conviction or of Edification received of the stander by from him that now is so Ministring in that Assembly before God 1 Cor. 14 15 16 17. Yea I believe that they that Pray in Assemblies or that shall give thanks for Mercies received there Ought to labor to speak not only with fervency of Words but with such soundness of Doctrine while they mention urge or plead the promise with God that that whole Assembly may be enlightned taught taken and carried away in their Spirits on the wing of that Prayer and of Faith to God whose face they are come to seek and whose Grace they are gathered together to beg Now this is called Praying and Praising to the Teaching and Edifying of others as by the Scripture afore named is made appear 1 Cor. 14.14 15 16 17 18 19. But by what Word of God the Sisters of the respective Churches may set up this way of Teaching of one another in their Assemblies I am ignorant of For. Thirdly The Holy Ghost doth particularly insist upon the inability of Women as to their well managing of the Worship now under Consideration and therefore it ought not to be presumed upon by them They are forbidden to teach yea to speak in the Church of God And why forbidden but because of their inability They cannot orderly manage that Worship to God that in Assemblies is to be performed before him I speak now of our Ordinary believing ones and I know none Extraordinary among the Churches They are not builded to manage such Worship they are not the Image and Glory of God as the Men are 1 Cor. 11.7 They are placed beneath and are called the Glory of the Man Wherefore they are weak and not permited to