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A04699 George Ioye confuteth, Vvinchesters false articles; George Joye confuteth, Winchesters false articles. Joye, George, d. 1553. 1543 (1543) STC 14826; ESTC S103790 22,379 52

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powr of faith for as faith humbleth geuethe all glory to god so do works puffe vp man and ascribe glory vnto men If theffect of christs passion shuld depend of the condicion of our works we shulde neuer be sewer certayn of our iustificacion for all our works ar vnperfit and fowle as the sike womās clothes Paul himself did his office so trwly that his conscience could not accuse him of any faut and yet he sayd Non tamen in hoc iustificatus sum yet for so doing am I not iustified ☞ Euerye thinge is to be called freelye done wherof the beginninge is free and at lybertye with owte anye cause of prouocacion So is there nothing frely done For man ha uinge his humane naturall affectes as loue hatered feare ioye heuines gladnes concupiscence honger thirste c. Besydes these also hauinge any celestiall gyftes as faith hope c must nedis be prouoked of them to do or to suffer all thingis But the liberty of the spirit conceiued by faith wherof Christe and Paul speke affirming by faith himselfe to be free and by loue to be bondman to all men is of an higher di●●nite thē this popissh lawer or cowrtlye ruf●er can attayne vnto Forhte on Winchester ☞ Faith must be to me the assewerāce of the promyses in god made in criste if I fulfill the cōdiciō loue must accōplisshe the cōdiciō whervpō solowth thatainmēt of the pro myse accordinge to Gods trweth Yet dare not he expresse his condiciō saying playnly Faith assewereth me of the promise of god if I fulfill the lawe but Win. nor none els but onely christe fulfilled the law ergo nether Winch. nor any els standinge this condiciō shal neuer be assewered of the promyse of God Paul argeweth another wayes excludinge the condicion that men mighte be the sewerer and certayner of the promyse For if the promyse shuld stande of an vncertain yea impossible condicion who shalbe certayn and assewered of the promyse Thus argeweth Paul By the works of the lawe came not the promise to Abraham or to his fead him to be thayer of the world but by the rightwisemaking by faith For if thei that will be iustifyed by the workes be therfore made thayers so is faith and beleue in vayne and the promyse voide and frustrate For the lawe worketh but wrath ergo it worketh no good works to the ataynment of iustificacion It worketh wrath for that it is impossible to be performed and accōplished of man whiche is flesshe as Paul constantly affirmeth and therfore it wrappethe all the workers therof to be iustifyed therby vnder the curse For as many as stāde vpon the works of the lawe to this ende euen for their iustificaciō ar yoked vnder ex ecracion and tyed to the curse Gala. iij. For where i● no lawe there is no transgression Wherfore Paul nowe concludeth agenste Win. saying out of faith is the heretage ge uen lyke as oute of grace that the promyse mighte be the more fernie and sewerer vnto all the sead not to it that is onely out of the lawe but also to it which is oute of the faith of Abraham Paul in spirit did see befor this Winchesters condicion to frustate the promyse and therfore he confuteth it here so cle rely And agen vnto the Galathēs If anye wolde obiecte saying ergo the lawe is agēste the promises God forbid saith Paul but if there had ben a lawe geuen whiche might haue geuen lyfe then no doute iustificacion might haue comē by the lawe But the scrip ture cōcluded all vnder syn that the promyse the promise I saye out of the faith of Ie su Chryste shuld be geuen and not deserued to the beleuers Thus ye see howe with so many wordes paul excludeth Win. impossible condicion to make faste the promyse in Christe that owr faith might be the sewerer stayede and cleaue to it If onelye vnbeleif dampneth why shulde not onelye faithe iustifye it is a good argumente of contrarye But yet because Win. wyndeth in his condicion so harde for the atainmente of his iustificacion by works I wolde fayne se some one of his good works so perfit pure with oute anye carnall affecte annexed ether of vaynglory or of loue to himselfe or for fere of payne not done nor for hope of rewarde or any lucre promocion or to recen●e a beter thinge for the doinge therof oute of so pure an herte that it be not done of any affeccion to the persone but onelye of faith ●ele for the glorye of god profit of his neighbour or onely to mortifye his owne affectes and to set naught by himself to abnegate and re nownce his estimacion and glorye to be renewed in spirit and to folow christe mekely to dethe Paul acknowlegeth himself com playueth in his most perfeccion not to be able to do that good which he wold do but to do that euill which he wold not do ●e dirst not call in this condicion to atayne his iusti ficacion therby but constantlye affirmed as many as stande vpon the workes of the law to fulfill them therby to be iustified ar yoked vnto the curse of the lawe saying Cursed is euery man that abideth not in althingis wrytē in the boke of the lawe to performe them I wonder therfore that Win. dare stande vpon his condicion to be fulfilled to ataine any parte of his iustificacion therby Dare he clayme thinke ye any parte of his iustificacion for burning of Doctor Garnis and his felows for prechinge agenst theise wikekly armed articles Tell vs Win. didst thou burne them so cruelly of loue and not of haatred or enuy trwely loue burneth noman for preching the trweth charite enuyeth not c̄ Abi igitur post christum satana Come bak deuill aftir christe thou art sclaū derous to his crosse for being maried to thy nown witte thou sauourst not the heuenly and godly iustificacion but siche one as naturall reason perswadeth emong men euen one good turne for another to be done and so to deserue thy iustificaciō But be it in case that Win. thus condicioninge with God hath in his own opiniō done some good dee de wherby he dare claym his iustificaciō yet shal not that same deed serue him to that einmente of that effecte For were it neuer so good yet doth his false opinion in his deed make it dampnable But lett vs speake of a good deed absolutely excluded from all car nall affectes if any man maye do siche one this deed is not owre deed but the deede of god working it in vs for what deed soeuer procedethe owte of owr corrupte nature is naught It is god saith Paul that workethe in you accordinge to his good mynde bothe to will well also to performe your work Nether ar we apte and able to thinke somiche as a good thoughte out of owr own selues but all our ablenes cometh from
my sinnes neuer to be imputed to me for my onely faiths sake dayly iustifying absoluing me continually re ●●●ing me with his holy spirit anoyntinge me withe the grace of the holygost so that nows I by his mercye grace being in christe his ele●t might walk dayly i● good workes pleas●●ge my celestial father ●nto this knowlege and bel●if he calleth all his chosē for whom he hathe forse●e predestined cho sen them hathe he called by his worde creacion of this worlde vnto this faith knowlege ●● whom he thus called the same hathe he iustifyed and whō he hath iustified them ●ath he gloryfied Thus we elect called and renated of the spirit know the fathir in christe and we know christe by the father which knowlege and faith draweth vs to loue god and to kepe his precepts gladlye Thus to know the father in christe and christe in him is lyfe eternal Out of this plētuous knowlege iustifying vs as I saye saith springethe repentance for here the synner prayeth god to conuerte him saying with Ieremye lorde conuerte me and I shall be conuerted for thou lorde arte my God wherfore as sone as thou shalt conuerte me I shal repent me and anone as thou makest me to knowe my sinnes I shal smyte my hand vpō my hippe Nowe tell vs Win. who is the autor of re pentance ▪ or is repentance before faith iustifyinge or no ▪ There is no man hauinge this knowlege and faith in God thorowe christe but he will anō with the publica●e falldowne smyting his hande vpon his breste say●g lorde haue mercy vpon me a sinner In this knowlege we see owr sinnes buried in christes wowndes nomore in the stonney tables for anger caste of that most mylde Mo ses agenst the grownde altobrokē We fel● them by owr faith forgeuē in christs dethe owrselues iustified by his resurreccion our hertes set at peace and rest with god in christe dead for owr sinnes and rysen agene for our iustificacion Which merciable goodnes whoso beholdeth in christe crucifyed he can not but of loue vnto god in christe lament be heuye in herte that euer he shuld cōmitte siche greuous sinnes which could not be forgeuē without the blode shedīge of that most innocent and immaculate lombe sufferinge for his enimies which loue as it is vnspeakable so is it incōparable A mā saith Paul will s●ante dye willingly when he must nedis and iustly dye but perchaūce will putte himselfe in perell of dethe for his goodes to be saued or the mother to saue hir childe c. But god he commendeth his loue towerd vs in that whē we were sinners criste wold dye for vs miche more therfore now we beinge iustified in his blode shalbe preserued by him from wrathe What faithfull herte towched with this incomparable loue out of faith knowlege is not humbled with fear and confession of his sinnes to god is not heuye and repentante detesting his sinnes saying Shal I any more commit that thing whiche hath brought this my so louing a sauiour to so shamefull and painful a passion This is our faith which cleaneth te the most certain promise of god and not to Win. wauering vnstable condiciō This is owr faith and substancial certitude the most f●rme per swasion without any wauering of the mer ciable free fogeuenes and gracious absoluci on of our sinnes by the promise of our fathir celestiall in christs bloude and hath her own proper correllatiue the promyse of god euer correspondent and not Winchesters know lege of the fulfulfilling of his cōdiciō This is the forme of owr iustificaciō by faith onely which attributeth all glory to god as did Abraham and his childerne and as many as haue vnfainedlye receiued christes gospell But let win ▪ worke on still his wyked workes vnto that tainment of his pharisaical iustificacion before men vntil the axe now bēt vnto his rotis he be sodenly smytendowne of god For Passur must be turned as Ier● mye saith into Pauor his arrogante vpcliminge and extolling of himselfe aboue god must haue a shamefull soden fearfull fall These arrrogāt articles may be well called the false articles of Winchesters false faith and not of christes faith For Christe cōfir●ed his articles euermore with the lawe phetes but Winch. bringeth not one worde of god for him to proue his Wherfore lette them be his owne articles armed withe his own prowd autorite For we may not beleue him thus exaltinge himself aboue christ● whiche euer alledged the scriptures for his doctryne to be confirmed we may not beleue my lorde Vicare generall for his hyghe lordly supcilious pharisaical lookis Wherfore if this Gardiner will seme to be lerned let him answere now with gods worde and not dispute with pore mē in his fetters and presons with his finnisshe threatis fyery fagettes presoning and persecutinge the pore innocont membres of christe for weldoing purely frely and faithfully preaching gods worde casting of his blodhowndes into eue ry cytie and towne to hunte oute the christē simple sely flock● of chryst as he of late made William Castelyn Gouerner of the mer chaunt aduenterers at Anwerpe cheifly to h●●te oute siche as purely and frelye wryts and set forth bokes vnto the glory of god edifying of christes chirche and to warn men of Win. false doctrine For this Gouerne● of other men whiche coulde neuer well gouerne himselfe is more meate to rowe in a galey or to holde the plough thē to gouern so worshiple and honeste a companye But the lord●is a lyue and heareth of these Mo abites pryde blode thirsting he seeth their secrete wiked counsels and heareth their bosting prowde crackes their supercilious arrogancye is well knowne vnto me saith the lorde but yet for all their lucifery●e pride promotinge and extollinge themselues and one an other to serue their traitourouse turnes and mutuall mischeif yet shall thei neuer bringe aboute their wiked enforcemēts For it is God that deposeth siche mighty● mischeuouse from their seates and exaltethe the humble It is the lorde that skaterethe their wiked counsels and trappeth them in their own pryde and blody cogitaciōs But let all christen Kinges and Princes beware how thei geu● their swerde into siche popisshe prelates handes leste the innocent blode be required of god at their handis to whom be prayse for euer Amen Trwthe it is that he which knoweth nether the father nor christe shall neuer beleue Christe to be an hole perfit and sufficient sauiour forgeuer of sinnes but he shal wynde in this croked condicion of Winc. and diuide his iustificaciō parte if he geu● not all to workes parte to god as did the Iewes and nowe the Turkes and siche like heithen miscreaunts which neuer knewe god the fa ther in and by Christe Yea thei shall deuise and imagyn in their own opiniōs for trwe faith haue thei none siche
●s thou beleuest so come it to the. Whē Iairus desiered cryste to come and helpe his daugh ter and in christs coming Iairus his seruāt met him saying decease not christe owr master no farther for your daughter is dead What said cryst said he not to him fear not Beleue onely and she shalbe salfe These same wordes Onelye beleue stande bothe in Mark and ●uke What cōdiciō els thē faith onely in christis promyse can Win. fynde to enioy theffect of christis passion Christe all condicions els set asyde onely faith mencioned said Thy faith hath saued the. What cō dicion els then faith did Christe requyre of the childs father praying him to caste the euill spirit oute of his sone Added he anye thinge els then faith saying If thou can●te beleue all thingis ar possible to the beleuer Awaye winchester with your confuse comberouse condicion sonde fulfyllinges and your craftye knowlege ▪ and abuse not the precyouse gyfte of faithe to serue yowr syn full affectes to proue your blasphemouse cō clusyon But yet perchaunce Winchester wyll answere to my former question That whē he beholdeth the forgeuenes of his syn nes in crystis passion he seeth also therwith his condicion Well be it so Thē aske I him whether the forgeuenes of his synnes ther beholden and himselfe hearinge Christe cal linge and krying Come vnto me Wui● laden with synnes and I shall case the whether I saye is it more profitable for him by faith to sethold of the forgeuenss of his sin nes nowe offred him by christe that can not lye or to tary and sende him worde that he will fyrste knowe and fulfyll his condicon A wyse man wolde thinke it moste profitable to set holde fyrste by faith vpon his iustificaciō frely nowe offred him and to take the thing certayn present rather then so precious a gift neglected to labour in an vncertayn condiciō For if his condiciō be the wor kis of the law as he will not denye it which it is impossible for anye flesshe to fulfill as Paul affirmeth and all owr beste workes ar infected with Adams byrth poyson stayned lyke the sike womās clothes as I saye saith And if Win. I saye tary tyll he hath fulfil led his condicion he shall come to shorte of his iustificacion in christe For ere he beginneth to fulfill the condicion he is disobediēt to christes callinge and refuseth the forgeue nes of his synnes of which vnfaith full diso bedience what soeuer deed foloweth it is sin ne yea and that a greuous synne as Samuel eraggerateth it vnto king Saul albeit he did it as thei saye of a good e●tent Nowe saye on yet agen winchester ☞ Ergo by the gift of god I maye do well before I am iustifyed Yea mary this is the cōclusiō I waited for ●o now hath he concluded of himselfe that he maye do well before he be iustifyed This his well doing standeth vpon the fulfilling of his cōdiciō where ye see he hath his faith and his workes and yet is he not instifyed ergo in that same tyme before he is iustified is he not iustified by faith nor by his works Here ye see playnly into what confusion be bringith himself and what it is to reason by his own witte withowt any worde of scripture Wold god the papistes had no wyser ●iuines to defende their false religion seldē ar these popisshe lawers good diuines He saith he may do well and I saye he may do euill to It becometh a lerned man so to conferre the scriptures trwly vnderstandē that he be sewer and certayn of his cōclusiō But perchaunce he take this word May for the mery mo●the of May next april and then am I content to tary tyll May come age●e for the verifying of his conclusion waiting for his well doing for hitherto god knoweth he hath done miche euill The lorde amend him befor May or els take him shortly away Amē Because Win. hath no scrip ture to proue his conclusiō I wil helpe him but yet I commende Standish agenst Doctor Barnes for he laid on scriptures wrytē and vnwriten englisshed and vnenglisshed as thik as hayle vnderstod not one worde what he sayd euen the very doctours paynted of Paul to haue erred fr● the trwe faith and loue and ar swaruen vnto vayne lyes which wolde be sene Doctours of the lawe and yet vnderstande thei not what thei saye nor of what thing thei affirm But to Win. conclusiō Thou knowest good reader that in scripture there is mencioned a dead faith and a fayned or false faith And also there is a rightwysnes of the lawe or owr rightwys nes and also a like iustificacion one of faith before god a nother of works before men Whē Paul had mightely ꝓued onely faith to haue iustified before God the Iewe not being content with this concluson obiected sayinge What then shall we saye of owr father Abraham Gote he no iustificacion by his works he was a good father and did ma ny good dedis It is trweth sayth Paul but yet hath he not to reioyse therof before god but onely before men Now let vs set vp my Lorde Gardiner in his Deluets and Saty● alo●te vpon his ●●le trapped withe veluet with gylden sterups and bridle c with his ientle men bare head chayned with gold before and aftir him Who wilnot say but there rideth a princely prelate a gloriouse Bisshop to orne and honor an hole realme See what a clenlye sorte of tall men he hathe aboute him what costlye liueries geueth he what a mayny of idle belies daily fedeth he Hath not Winch. lo wherof to glory before men is not this a ioyly iustificacion Nowe foloweth his conclusion of himselfe saying ergo by the gift of god that is by these worl dely giftes I maye do well before worldlye men of flesshly iugement before I be iustified before God yet iustifyed gloriouslye in whiche I reioyce before men This is his Iewisshe iustificacion wherof the pharisais so highly reioyced insomich that christe told them that he came not to call siche iuste mē but sinner● to repentance warning the peple that ex●pte their rightwysnes abounded a boue the pharisais good dedis thei shulde neuer come to heuen And Paul saithe that men ignorant of the rightwisnes or rightwisemaking of god and seking to set fast as now doth Winch. their own rightwisnes thei be neuer subiecte to the rightwisnes of god Winchester yet knoweth not the office of the lawe to shew vs our sinnes to work wrathe to make sinne the more to abounde as Paul proueth it to the Romans so farre of must it be to iustifye Nether yet knowth he thoffice and proper place of faithe nor yet what thing faith is but cōceiueth a certayn fantastical opinion therof as doth euery spe culatiue pharisay and idle hypocrite And a man shulde speke astir the very order of nature and
God And I say saith lorde s●t peace among vs for it is thow that workest and finisshest all thing is in vs bothe our thought is de●des And therfore well sayd Austen God crowneth in vs his own deedis not owrs Con diciō not therfore Win. with god for your deedis which as all mē see them ar but ●a lice mischeif enuy rankor bitternes bloud thirstinge pryde cruell tyrannye blasphemies persecucion of christis innocente lombes and of his worde deceytfully flatering your prynce euill cownsell geuinge to prouoke the wrathe of god vpon yow all and vpon that noble realme sowinge most pesti lent heresyes yea and that wetingly which is the synne agenste the holygoste whiche when all sinnes be thei ryght greuous shal be forgeuen yet shall this your vngodly im piete be neuer forgeuen ☞ You say that faith is thassewrāce of the ꝓmise of forgeuenes of sinnes If faithe be that same certitude assewered perswasion as Paul saith asseweringe you of your iustificaciō why thē adde you yowr vncertayne condicion wauering vpon your synfull works which as thei be vnstable vnperfit and synne so can thei neuer make you a quyet and tranquill cōscience nor certifye you of your iustificacion God so sayinge Thou laborest in the multitud of thy nown wayes and yet thoughtest thou them neuer enoughe Adde no condicion on your behalf therfore oh Win. into your own condemp nacion Christe neuer taught you to beleue vpon a condicion but sayd simply and playnely Beleue and thou art saued Adde not to gods worde lest ye be condempned far a lyar Winch. tolde Martyn Bucere that he and his wolde not receyue the doctours as Win. wold I coude bring Austen Hierom Origene and many other autentyk writers agenst himself but let vs see whethir he wil beleue this one doctor saynt Ambrose thus writinge vpon the fyrst pistle to the Corinthes saying This thing is cōstituted of god that whoso beleue in criste he is saued with out any work onely by faith frely receiuīg the remission of his sinnes What can be spo ken more plainly Now make an ende win and conclude your arrogant articles ☞ A man being in dedly syn may haue grace to do the works of penāce wherby he may atayne to his iustificacion And I saye the contrary That a man beīge in dedlye synne may haue no grace to do the workes of penance as I feare me it will be verifyed of Win. himself But the lorde cō uerte him once so that all men maye see his open frutes of repentance for his greuouse persecucion of Christes membres and heare him openly with teares recantinge his false doctryn wherby he hath seduced many a sim ple soule This is lo his doctryne A man muste do the works of penance before he be iustifyed and so by siche workes merite and deserue his iustificacion and forgeuenes of sinnes Here thou seest christen reader that siche a man hathe no nede of christes death but for siche men saith paul christe is deade in vayne Thus ye see the conclusion of his articles to be That he may do wel before he be iusti fied But as I sayd before it behowuethe a lerned diuine to conclude what ought to be done and what god willith to be beleued by his manifeste worde and not what Winch. may do by his own blynde reasoninge with out gods worde He may do well by the gift of god saith he which is faith ergo his faith goth before his well doing and his iustifica cion and his good works must be thrust betwixt bothe if the ▪ place be not to narow for them so that he hauing his faith his good works is not as yet iustifyed nether by his faith nor by his good workes for thei muste serue him but toward the atainmente to his iustificacion Paul and Christe ioyned faith and iustificacion euer inseparably togither but this scismatyk iewisshe Hieroboam ▪ deuillishe diuider of all christē vnite wil thrust his good works betwixt them not suffring faith to cleaueto immediatly herown obiecte euen the mercye of god promising remissiō of sinnes in christs dethe He wold thrust in here the works of penance before iustificacion which thing how folisshe it is ye shal see Firste ye knowe that penance must go before her workes as is the tree before her frutes Penance is a turning to god wherby of the syncere feare of god a mā humbled acknowlegeth his sinne and ●o all his whol lyfe he maketh newe Who turneth to god but he fyrst beleue and knowth god for christes sake to be so mercyfull vnto him that at his turninge to him he receiuethe him forgeueth him his sinnes which faith knowlege what els is it then his iustificaciō god the father so affirminge it in his prophet Isaye sayinge In the knowlege of him this euē my seruant shall iustifie many Here ye see that this knowlege and faithe iustifyeth before the workes of penance ar done For God is known in christe ere we turn to him of the whiche turninge to god there folowe the frutes of repentance in doinge them all owr lyfe longe as to feare god to humble owr selfe to confesse our sinnes to him and to renewe owr lyues mortifyinge continuallye owr flesshe Nowe let vs see the order of owr iustifica cion before god according to the scriptures Firste saith Paul we are chosen of God in christe before the foundacion of the worlde was layed And when we be borne anew of the spirit we ar called to receiue faith Ioan. i and .i. Ioā v. which gifte of faith certifyeth vs of our eleccion geuing vs the knowlege of god the father in and by Christe Which knowlege as nothing can be sayd breifly er so is there nothing more excellent sweter more full and perfit holsomer more comfor table and ioyouse For when I knowe god the father in criste by the holygost I know these .iij. persons to be the onelye one God the most highe goodnes hauing his be●●ge of himself all other creatures to haue their being lyfe and mouing of him euē that o●e alone my very liuinge God for me and for all sufficiente mercyfull benigne louing almighty to me my deliuerer defender and keper long suffring iuste trwe my present sauiour and forgeuer of my synnes geuing me frely for christes sake eternal life and beatitude In this knowlege of my celestial father am I fermely perswaded Christe Iesu his onely so●ne bothe god man to be sente for my sake into this world to be that anoin ted Messias kinge preiste to be my gouer ner deliuerer aue●ger defender my head redemer by his passion mediatour my clen singe sacrifice once for me and for all faithfull for euer offerd vp on the crosse my onely intercessour now into heuē ascended my holines myne expiacion my rightwisenes helth way life and satisfaccion satisfying● my fathers iustice for