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A03797 Certaine greevances, vvell vvorthy the serious consideration of the right honorable and high Court of Parliament Set forth by way of dialogue, or conference betweene a countrey gentleman, and a minister of Gods word; for the satisfying of those that doe clamour, and maliciously revile them that labour to have the errors of the Booke of common prayer reformed. By Levves Hevves, minister of Gods Word. Hughes, Lewes, fl. 1620. 1640 (1640) STC 13917.5; ESTC R212825 20,742 44

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make it for all Christians to use as a prayer and also for a patterne to pray by Gent. Where doe you finde that our Saviour Christ would have it used as a prayer Min. In the 11. chapter of the Gospel written by Saint Luke and the second verse where it is written that our Saviour said When you pray say Our Father which c. Gent. Where doe you finde that our Saviour would have it used for a patterne Min. In the sixt chapter of the Gospel written by Saint Matthew and the ninth verse where it is written that our Saviour said After this manner pray you Our Father which c. Gent. Why will not the Witch acknowledge Christ to be the Lord Min. Because the devill would have her to take him and not Christ for her Lord Gent. Why doe some say that the Priest and Clarke when they doe Church a woman are like to a couple of Players acting their parts Min. Because the Priest doth skip over these words but deliver us from evill and doth leave them to the Clarke to say for his part and as soone as the Clarke hath said them the Priest saith Lord save this woman thy servant then the Clarke comes in againe with his part saying which putteth her trust in thee then the Priest as though hee would not have the woman to put her trust in him turnes her over to the Clarke and bids him bee unto her a strong Tower then the Clarke answereth and sheweth wherein saying from the face of their enemie Gent. This is a very strange kind of giving God thankes for womens safe deliverance from the paine and perill of child birth Min. It is indeede and no small griefe to honest women not onely because there is no thankes given to God for their safe deliverance from the paine and perill of child-birth but also because thanksgiving is turned to a Iewish kinde of purification for they must come with a vaile to cover their faces after the Iewish manner signifying thereby that by child-bearing they were made uncleane and that they were ashamed of their uncleannesse or that they had plaid the harlots and were ashamed to shew their faces and Iuda thought that Thamar was an harlot because her face was covered with a veile Gen. 33.14 15. It is a great offence not onely to honest women but also to every true Christian man to see his wife goe to the Church like a Iew or like an Harlot Gent. Many doe say that the manner of administring the holy Sacrament of Baptisme prescribed in the Service Booke is very absurd and full of popish errors and so rediculous as they cannot but laugh at it I pray you tell me what doe you finde in it to be so absurde and ridiculous as they can not but laugh at it Min. The interrogatories ministred to infants that have no understanding and the answer of the Godfathers and Godmothers are so absurd and ridiculous as they cannot but laugh at them as first the Minister must examine the infant and aske him if he doth forsake the divell and all his workes the vaine pompe and glory of the world the coveteous desires of the same the carnall desires of the flesh so as hee will not follow nor be led by them hee must also aske him if hee doth beleeve all the Articles of the Christian faith and if hee will bee baptized in that faith Gent. Were not these interrogations administred to infants in the Primitive Church Min. No these or the like were then administred to such as were of yeares when they were converted and came to be baptized and afterwards commanded by the Pope to bee administred to infants Gent. What answer doth the Godfathers and Godmothers give Min. They give no answer but doe counterfeit the Infants voice as if he were a conjured Ghost speaking within them and answering to the first interrogation concerning the Devill and all his workes the vaine pompe and glory of the world the covetous desires of the same and the carnall desires of the flesh that he doth forsake them all and to the second and third concerning the Articles of the Christian faith that he doth beleeve them all and that he doth desire to be baptized in that faith Gent. What doth the Minister after he hath received these feigned answers Min. He doth baptise the Infant and doth marke him on the forehead with a Crosse which doth offend many because they take it to be the marke of the Beast mentioned Rev. 14.9 Gent. Why doe they take it to be the marke of the Beast Min. Because there is no one thing in all Popery set on the forehead and on the hand but a crosse made on the forehead by the Priest in Baptisme and by the Bishop on the right hand in Confirmation saying Signaculum Christi in manu tua dextra trado tibi therefore they say that it is a marke wherewith the Beast doth cause all that are of his Church to be marked according as it is written that he hath made all both small and great rich and poore bond and free to receive a marke on the forehead and on the right hand Rev. 13.16 It is written Rev. 14.9 that if any receive his marke on the forehead and on the hand he shall drinke of the Wine of the wrath of God therefore some doe keepe their children unbaptised rather then have them marked with the mark of the beast Gent. What fault doe they finde with the prayers that are made at the administration of Baptisme Min. They finde fault with the Popish errours that are in them as in the first prayer before Baptisme it is written that God hath sanctified the floud Iorden and all other waters to the mysticall washing away of sinne The truth is that there is no mysticall washing away of sinne in water but a reall and true washing away of sinne in the blood of Christ 1 Ioh. 1.7 The water in Baptisme doth but signifie that as foule things are washed and made cleane in water so the soules of the Elect defiled with sinne are made cleane in the blood of Christ 1 Ioh. 1.7 In another prayer the Minister prayeth that the Infant may receive remission of sinnes by spirituall regeneration The truth is that the children of God have their sinnes forgiven and are sanctified by faith Rom. 5.1 and not by spirituall regeneration which is but an effect of faith purifying the heart Act. 15.9 or to speake more plainly it is God that justifieth Rom. 8.33 by accepting of the sufferings and obedience of Christ as a sufficient recompence and satisfaction and doth by faith assure the hearts of his children that for the merits of the sufferings and obedience of Christ his wrath is pacified and his Justice satisfied In another prayer thankes is given to God for regenerating the Infant with his holy Spirit The truth is that the children of God doe receive the Spirit of God to regenerate them not by sprinkling of water