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week_n the_o queen_n of_o day_n do_v not_o prove_v that_o lord_n day_n speak_v of_o by_o john_n to_o be_v the_o first_o day_n so_o if_o ignatius_n have_v be_v of_o this_o mind_n and_o have_v esteem_v of_o it_o above_o other_o day_n that_o make_v nothing_o against_o we_o we_o know_v this_o superstition_n be_v creep_v into_o the_o church_n before_o ignatius_n time_n therefore_o the_o apostle_n paul_n warn_v the_o galatian_n gal._n 4._o 10_o 11._o to_o prove_v this_o day_n speak_v of_o by_o john_n to_o be_v the_o first_o day_n of_o the_o week_n he_o say_v christ_n appear_v to_o his_o disciple_n declare_v himself_o to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n upon_o the_o first_o day_n of_o the_o week_n that_o it_o be_v suppose_v that_o be_v the_o day_n the_o spirit_n be_v pour_v forth_o and_o that_o beza_n in_o a_o ancient_a greek_a manuscript_n do_v find_v the_o first_o day_n of_o the_o week_n call_v the_o lord_n day_n but_o all_o this_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o prove_v the_o matter_n in_o question_n except_o this_o may_v suffice_v for_o proof_n w._n m._n think_v this_o will_v infer_v the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n speak_v of_o by_o john_n to_o be_v the_o first_o day_n of_o the_o week_n therefore_o it_o be_v so_o there_o may_v be_v superstition-enough_a find_v in_o old_a greek_a manuseript_n it_o be_v near_o fourteen_o hundred_o year_n since_o the_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n be_v like_a to_o split_v about_o the_o observation_n of_o easter_n and_o yet_o protestant_n with_o good_a reason_n look_v upon_o that_o controversy_n as_o both_o superstitious_a and_o frivolous_a now_o give_v but_o not_o grant_v this_o day_n speak_v of_o by_o john_n be_v the_o first_o day_n of_o the_o week_n how_o do_v he_o prove_v from_o this_o that_o the_o first_o day_n of_o the_o week_n be_v come_v to_o christian_n in_o place_n of_o the_o jewish_a sabbath_n or_o that_o it_o stand_v as_o a_o obligation_n upon_o they_o as_o a_o part_n of_o the_o moral_a law_n whereunto_o we_o be_v bind_v by_o the_o forth_o command_v which_o though_o it_o be_v the_o chief_n thing_n in_o debate_n remain_v yet_o unprove_v see_v then_o he_o have_v have_v very_o few_o proof_n for_o these_o his_o suppose_a ordinance_n but_o such_o as_o be_v only_o bottom_v upon_o his_o own_o affirmation_n the_o judicious_a reader_n may_v judge_v it_o be_v with_o out_o ground_n he_o conclude_v here_o that_o we_o deny_v the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n and_o not_o the_o invention_n of_o man_n his_o fourteen_o head_n pag._n 109_o be_v concern_v original_a sin_n so_o call_v which_o the_o reader_n by_o compare_v with_o pag._n 62_o 63_o 64_o and_o 65._o of_o i_o will_v see_v that_o he_o make_v no_o real_a but_o a_o mere_a counterfeit_a show_n of_o answer_n and_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n first_o to_o observe_v that_o neither_o here_o nor_o in_o his_o dialogue_n he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o offer_v to_o prove_v that_o this_o phrase_n original_a sin_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n and_o for_o all_o his_o pretence_n to_o make_v the_o scripture_n his_o rule_n he_o have_v no_o ground_n from_o this_o but_o from_o popish_a tradi_fw-la ion_n second_o that_o we_o grant_v a_o real_a seed_n of_o sin_n derive_v from_o satan_n which_o adam_n posterity_n be_v liable_a to_o but_o we_o say_v none_o become_v guilty_a of_o this_o before_o god_n nutill_o they_o close_v with_o this_o evil_a seed_n and_o in_o they_o who_o close_o with_o it_o it_o become_v a_o origine_fw-la or_o fountain_n of_o evil_a thought_n desire_n word_n and_o action_n and_o as_o by_o grant_v all_o capable_a of_o receive_v this_o real_a seed_n of_o sin_n we_o differ_v from_o the_o socinian_o and_o pelagian_n so_o by_o say_v it_o be_v not_o the_o child_n sin_n until_o they_o do_v close_o with_o it_o we_o agree_v with_o zuinglius_fw-la a_o famous_a protestant_n who_o for_o this_o very_a doctrine_n be_v condemn_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n in_o the_o art_n of_o the_o five_o ses._n cons._n trent_n lib._n 2._o pag._n 208._o the_o act_n of_o which_o council_n not_o only_o against_o we_o but_o against_o this_o famous_a founder_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n in_o zuitserland_n be_v that_o which_o w._n m._n be_v here_o vindicate_v three_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n may_v observe_v that_o the_o thing_n he_o plead_v for_o be_v that_o infant_n be_v real_o guilty_a before_o god_n that_o infant_n be_v guilty_a before_o god_n simple_o for_o adam_n sin_n and_o that_o some_o of_o they_o who_o die_v in_o their_o infancy_n and_o never_o actual_o sin_n in_o their_o own_o person_n do_v for_o this_o sin_n of_o adam_n eternal_o perish_v now_o whither_o this_o doctrine_n be_v suitable_a either_o to_o the_o justice_n or_o mercy_n of_o god_n i_o leave_v the_o christian_a reader_n to_o judge_v i_o shall_v examine_v the_o reason_n he_o bring_v for_o it_o his_o chief_n argument_n for_o this_o in_o his_o dialogue_n pag._n 47._o be_v that_o because_o child_n die_v cite_v rom._n 23._o the_o wage_n of_o sin_n be_v death_n now_o i_o show_v he_o pag_n 64._o of_o i_o how_o that_o make_v nothing_o because_o natural_a death_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v not_o the_o wage_n of_o sin_n for_o their_o sin_n be_v forgive_v they_o etc._n etc._n this_o he_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o mention_v far_o less_o answer_v and_o whereas_o he_o may_v as_o well_o argue_v that_o the_o earth_n tree_n and_o herb_n be_v sinner_n because_o they_o receive_v great_a decay_n by_o adam_n sin_n he_o slight_o pass_v it_o over_o aledge_v it_o will_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o all_o mankind_n who_o suffer_v death_n be_v not_o sinner_n now_o this_o be_v no_o answer_n but_o a_o mere_a shift_n and_o the_o thing_n i_o intend_v against_o his_o assertion_n do_v very_o natural_o follow_v from_o my_o argument_n thus_o if_o as_o w._n m._n say_v infant_n be_v guilty_a of_o adam_n sin_n because_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o disease_n and_o death_n than_o the_o beast_n who_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o like_a and_o the_o earth_n herb_n and_o tree_n who_o have_v receive_v their_o decay_n be_v sinner_n before_o god_n but_o this_o be_v absurd_a therefore_o the_o other_o let_v he_o answer_v this_o the_o next_o time_n more_o effectual_o the_o first_o proof_n he_o bring_v here_o be_v 1_o joh._n 3._o 6._o that_o which_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o flesh_n be_v flesh_n add_v this_o intimate_v man_n by_o his_o natural_a birth_n to_o be_v corrupt_a and_o fleshly_a but_o for_o this_o his_o gloss_n he_o bring_v no_o proof_n though_o that_o which_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o flesh_n be_v flesh_n he_o show_v we_o not_o how_o it_o follow_v thence_o that_o infant_n be_v guilty_a of_o adam_n sin_n after_o the_o like_a manner_n he_o conclude_v this_o his_o doctrine_n from_o job_n 14._o 4._o psal._n 5._o 5._o but_o as_o the_o word_n in_o these_o place_n do_v not_o plain_o express_v any_o such_o thing_n so_o he_o bring_v no_o reason_n to_o make_v his_o consequence_n deduceable_a from_o they_o after_o the_o like_a proof-less_a manner_n he_o aledge_v rom._n 5._o 14._o by_o one_o man_n disobedience_n many_o be_v make_v sinner_n now_o though_o the_o matter_n in_o question_n be_v whether_o these_o many_o be_v make_v sinner_n before_o they_o actual_o sin_v in_o their_o own_o person_n he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o offer_v to_o prove_v it_o in_o the_o like_a manner_n though_o david_n say_v his_o mother_n conceive_v he_o in_o sin_n he_o show_v we_o not_o how_o it_o follow_v from_o thence_o that_o david_n be_v guilty_a of_o sin_n before_o he_o actual_o sin_v and_o here_o i_o observe_v how_o he_o assert_n that_o man_n be_v guilty_a of_o the_o sin_n of_o their_o immoderate_a parent_n contrary_a to_o the_o plain_a testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n ezek._n 18._o 20._o the_o son_n shall_v not_o bare_a the_o iniquity_n of_o the_o father_n to_o prove_v infant_n thus_o guilty_a he_o further_o add_v rom._n 5._o 12._o aledge_v these_o word_n for_o that_o all_o have_v sin_v include_v infant_n but_o i_o show_v he_o this_o include_v not_o infant_n because_o the_o apostle_n clear_v it_o in_o the_o next_o verse_n say_v sin_n be_v not_o impute_v where_o there_o be_v no_o law_n and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o law_n to_o infant_n they_o can_v be_v guilty_a of_o sin_n to_o this_o he_o reply_v there_o be_v a_o law_n to_o adam_n and_o that_o he_o represent_v mankind_n and_o stand_v as_o a_o public_a person_n therefore_o child_n have_v a_o law_n in_o he_o but_o for_o this_o signification_n of_o his_o own_o he_o produce_v no_o proof_n and_o it_o can_v be_v receive_v as_o be_v direct_a contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n above_o mention_v the_o son_n shall_v not_o bare_a the_o father_n iniquity_n he_o aledge_v that_o those_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o who_o sin_v
can_v depart_v from_o he_o christ_n come_v to_o his_o own_o for_o this_o end_n that_o he_o may_v save_v they_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v say_v they_o receive_v he_o not_o joh._n 1._o 11._o he_o say_v i_o make_v short_a work_n of_o these_o scripture_n joh._n 10._o 27_o 28._o joh._n 13._o 1._o 1_o joh._n 2._o 19_o because_o i_o say_v they_o speak_v of_o those_o who_o be_v come_v to_o a_o through_o regeneration_n which_o he_o say_v be_v without_o proof_n but_o the_o reader_n by_o look_v unto_o they_o will_v find_v they_o can_v be_v understand_v otherways_o then_o of_o such_o as_o be_v thorough_o regenerate_v and_o it_o appear_v he_o be_v sensible_a of_o this_o have_v produce_v nothing_o to_o the_o contrary_a and_o whereas_o he_o add_v that_o if_o those_o who_o be_v thorough_o regenerate_v be_v only_o to_o persevere_v than_o this_o be_v the_o privilege_n of_o saint_n in_o heaven_n and_o not_o in_o earth_n who_o never_o come_v to_o be_v so_o there_o can_v be_v nothing_o more_o ridiculous_fw-la than_o this_o manner_n of_o argue_v see_v that_o question_n whether_o the_o saint_n can_v be_v perfect_o regenerate_v on_o earth_n be_v as_o much_o in_o debate_n as_o the_o other_o that_o objection_n of_o he_o as_o if_o from_o this_o doctrine_n it_o may_v follow_v one_o be_v a_o child_n of_o god_n to_o day_n and_o a_o child_n of_o the_o devil_n to_o morrow_n i_o answer_v in_o my_o last_o pag._n 66._o to_o which_o he_o return_v no_o answer_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v disingenuity_n in_o he_o to_o bring_v it_o forth_o here_o again_o and_o whereas_o in_o pag._n 66_o 67._o of_o my_o last_o i_o show_v he_o how_o he_o contradict_v himself_o in_o this_o matter_n by_o grant_v some_o of_o the_o quaker_n to_o have_v be_v true_o convert_v and_o yet_o now_o to_o condemn_v they_o as_o apostate_n he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o reconcile_a it_o that_o he_o aver_v it_o a_o new_a in_o plain_a term_n say_v pag._n 118._o that_o some_o of_o they_o have_v feel_v a_o gracious_a operation_n on_o their_o heart_n and_o pag._n 9_o he_o can_v but_o think_v that_o some_o of_o they_o be_v save_o wrought_v upon_o and_o yet_o add_v that_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o they_o have_v apostatise_v from_o the_o truth_n now_o to_o reconcile_v this_o he_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v but_o he_o trust_v the_o lord_n will_v convince_v they_o answ._n as_o some_o of_o they_o to_o who_o he_o and_o his_o brethren_n be_v force_v to_o give_v the_o testimony_n of_o gracious_a person_n have_v already_o depart_v this_o life_n not_o only_o not_o shrink_v from_o but_o even_o testify_v to_o these_o truth_n he_o call_v error_n so_o other_o who_o they_o have_v also_o account_v gracious_a have_v be_v at_o death_n door_n have_v assert_v the_o same_o truth_n and_o rejoice_v in_o it_o which_o suffice_v to_o overturn_v his_o vain_a confidence_n and_o true_o such_o a_o groundless_a hope_n be_v but_o a_o poor_a shift_n to_o reconcile_v so_o palpable_a a_o contradiction_n whereby_o while_n in_o word_n they_o condemn_v this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o capacity_n of_o man_n fall_v away_o from_o grace_n yet_o as_o to_o the_o experience_n of_o some_o particular_n they_o be_v force_v to_o acknowledge_v it_o for_o fear_v they_o shall_v fall_v in_o great_a inconvenience_n of_o grant_v some_o among_o the_o quaker_n to_o be_v choice_a saint_n his_o sixteen_o head_n pag._n 119._o be_v to_o prove_v the_o danger_n of_o quakerism_n as_o he_o term_v it_o but_o that_o his_o folly_n may_v appear_v in_o this_o particular_a i_o desire_v the_o reader_n first_o to_o observe_v our_o principle_n which_o he_o conclude_v so_o hazardous_a even_o as_o repeat_v by_o himself_o pag._n 121._o viz._n that_o a_o man_n can_v nor_o ought_v not_o to_o pray_v without_o the_o spirit_n motion_n and_o to_o say_v none_o can_v pray_v without_o it_o have_v no_o bad_a tendency_n because_o all_o such_o prayer_n as_o be_v perform_v without_o the_o help_n of_o the_o spirit_n be_v abomination_n not_o true_a prayer_n but_o hypocritical_a and_o deceitful_a 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their_o own_o soul_n good_a now_o though_o this_o be_v so_o undeniable_a that_o he_o can_v gainsay_v it_o yet_o in_o contradiction_n to_o the_o truth_n and_o his_o own_o concession_n he_o go_v about_o to_o cavil_v against_o it_o aledge_v it_o may_v take_v off_o man_n as_o well_o from_o their_o necessary_a work_n because_o the_o plough_v of_o the_o wicked_a be_v sin_n and_o that_o also_o it_o may_v follow_v from_o this_o that_o child_n shall_v not_o honour_v their_o parent_n and_o husband_n love_v their_o wife_n but_o when_o they_o have_v a_o motion_n of_o the_o spirit_n for_o it_o answ._n this_o objection_n have_v no_o weight_n to_o overturn_v the_o truth_n for_o there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o these_o thing_n that_o relate_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o what_o relate_v to_o outward_a thing_n either_o concern_v ourselves_o or_o our_o neighbour_n the_o worship_n of_o god_n be_v a_o spiritual_a thing_n relate_v to_o himself_o which_o we_o be_v command_v to_o perform_v in_o the_o spirit_n and_o god_n do_v offer_v we_o his_o spirit_n for_o the_o performance_n of_o it_o and_o because_o it_o be_v that_o which_o be_v mere_o relative_a betwixt_o god_n and_o the_o soul_n he_o do_v not_o accept_v of_o it_o but_o as_o so_o offer_v we_o can_v pray_v as_o we_o ought_v say_v the_o apostle_n but_o the_o spirit_n help_v etc._n etc._n now_o though_o these_o other_o thing_n will_v no_o doubt_n be_v the_o more_o acceptable_a to_o god_n and_o more_o frequent_o accompany_v with_o his_o blessing_n that_o they_o be_v do_v in_o the_o sense_n of_o his_o fear_n and_o in_o the_o drawing_n of_o his_o spirit_n yet_o they_o be_v material_o good_a in_o themselves_o answer_v real_o their_o end_n to_o they_o unto_o who_o they_o immediate_o relate_v without_o it_o but_o it_o be_v not_o so_o of_o prayer_n which_o as_o it_o immediate_o relate_v to_o god_n so_o w._n m._n himself_o confess_v without_o the_o spirit_n to_o be_v abomination_n thus_o be_v also_o solve_v his_o supposition_n pag._n 1_o 124._o that_o if_o a_o wicked_a man_n contract_n guilt_n he_o may_v provoke_v the_o lord_n to_o withdraw_v the_o motion_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o then_o his_o not_o pray_v be_v not_o sin_n for_o i_o have_v assert_v that_o the_o not_o pray_v of_o the_o wicked_a be_v sinful_a and_o this_o do_v not_o lull_v people_n in_o a_o sinful_a security_n on_o the_o contrary_n they_o be_v like_v rather_o to_o be_v lull_v in_o such_o a_o security_n by_o be_v tell_v they_o may_v be_v set_v about_o prayer_n when_o they_o please_v whereby_o they_o foster_v themselves_o in_o a_o groundless_a hope_n because_o of_o their_o now_o and_o then_o repeat_v their_o word_n of_o prayer_n neither_o expect_v nor_o look_v for_o