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A16571	All the examinacions of the constante martir of God M. Iohn Bradforde before the Lorde Chauncellour, B. of Winchester the B. of London, [and] other co[m]missioners: whervnto ar annexed, his priuate talk [and] conflictes in prison after his condemnacion, with the Archbishop of york, the B. of Chichester, Alfonsus, and King Philips confessour, two Spanishe freers, and sundry others. With his modest learned and godly answeres. Anno. Domini 1561	Bradford, John, 1510?-1555.	1561 (1561)	STC 3477; ESTC S116578	60,488	240

bycause it may abid y e light I dare be bolde to haue it loke on cōferre it with you or any man in respecte wherof I am glad of your cōming thācke you for your cōming althoughe as I said I desired not your cōminge nwas willing of your cōming or cold be cōtēt of it otherwise Why quod he what is y ● matter wherefore you were condempned for we know not sir quod I ī prisō haue I ben all most two yeres I neuer trāsgressed any of y e lawes wherfore I might iustlye be punished But because I frāckly confessed whereof I repēt not my faith concerninge the sacrament being demaūded in these two points One that there is no trāsubstantiaciō the other that the wicked doo not receaue Christes bodie ▪ Lett vs quoth he loke a litle on the firste do you not beleue christs presence raallye and corporallye in the forme of bread No quoth I. I doo beleue that there Christ is present to the faith of the worthye receauer as there is present bread and wyne to the sences and outwarde man as for any suche presence of including and placing Christe I beleue not nor dare not do Why quoth he I am sure you beleue Christes natural body is circumscriptible And here he made muche a do of two natures of Christ howe that the one is euery where the other is in his proper place demaunding questiōs here about whiche I aunswered with etiam that is affirmatiuelye bycause they were suche as no wise man would haue spente any such tyme about as he did for I neuer herd of any that woulde haue denyed them Nowe then commeth he to this conclusion whiche I prayed hym he woulde make for els he had forgotten howe that because christes body was circumscriptible concerninge the humanitye in in heauen therfore it was so in the bread This hanges not togither quod I because you are here Ergo you are at Romme it is out of Fraunce bycause christes body is in heauen Io. it is in the Sacramēt vnder the forme of bread No wise man wil graunt it quoth I. why quoth he you wil beleue nothing but that which is expresely spoke in the scriptures yes syr quoth I I will beleue what so euer you shall by demonstracions out of the scriptures declare vnto me he is obstinate saieth he to his fellow But quoth he to me is not god able to do it yes syr quoth I But heare the questiō is of gods will and not of his powre Why quoth he Doth he not say plainlye this is my bodye yes quod I and I denye it not but that it is to the faith of the worthie receuer To faith quoth he howe is that Forsothe syr quoth I as I haue no tong to expresse it so I know you haue no eares to heare and vnderstād it for faith seyth more then man can vtter yea but quod he I can tel all that I beleue you beleue not muche then quoth I. For if you beleue the ioies of heauen if you beleue no more then you can tell you wyll not muche desire to come thyther for as the mynde is more capable and receauable then the mouth so it conceaueth more then the tonge can expresse Christe sayth it is hys bodie quoth he And so saye I after a certein maner quoth I After a certein maner quoth hee that is after another maner then it is in heauen saint Augustin quoth I telleth it more plainlye that it is Christes bodye after the same maner circuncysion was the Couenaunte of God and the sacrament of faith is faith or to make it more plaine as Baptisme and the water of baptisme is regeneration Verye wel said quoth he Baptisme and the water therof is a sacrament of gods grace sprit in the water closing the baptisme No syr quoth I away with your inclosing on the same sorte christs bodye is in the bread on whiche sorte the grace and spirite of God is in the water In y e water quod he is gods grace by significacion so is the bodye in the breade quoth I in the Sacrament you are muche deceaued quoth he y t make no difference beetwene the sacramētes that be stāderes and the Sacramētes that are traunseuntes and passers by As for example the sacramente of Order whiche you denye thoughe saint Augustine affirme it is standerd although the ceremonie be paste But in baptisme so sone as the bodie is washen the water cesseth to be a sacrament True good syr quoth I. And so it is in the lordes supper no longer then it is in vse is Christes sacrament Here was maister Alphonsus wounderfullye chafed and speake as often he had done before so that y e hole house dyd ringe againe with an Echo He hath a great name of lerning But surely he hath litle pacience If I had ben any thynge whete one house could not haue kepte vs bothe At the lenght he cometh to that point that I could not find in y e scripture baptisme and the Lords supper to haue any like similitude togither And here lord god what aray he mad how that we would receaue nothinge but scripture yet we are able to proue nothing by the scripture Father ꝙ I for so I called him God forgiue me if I dyd amysse be paciente and you shall see y t by the scripture I will finde baptisme and the Lords supper coupled togither No quoth he that canst thou neuer doo let me see one texte of it and a great ado he made At the lenght syr quoth I Paule sayeth that as we are baptized into one bodie so we are Potati in Vno spiritu we haue dronken of one spirite meaninge it of the Cuppe in the Lordes supper Paule hath no such wordes quod he ▪ yes that he hath quoth I. I trowe he hath not quoth the kinges confessor Giue me a Testament quoth I and I wil showe it to you so a priest that sate by thē gaue me his testamente I showed them the plaine texte Here was nowe lokinge one vpon an other finallye this simple shifte was founde that Paule spake not of the sacramēt Wel sir quod quoth I thoughe the texte be plaine yet I wene the fathers do expoūd it so especially except my memorie faile me Chrisostome doth it Here I seing thē blancke I began to tel them howe I had byn handled in prison with oute boke paper pen yucke and howe vniustly I had ben handled and prayed them that as they tolde me their comminge was to do me good so they woulde doo it and not to do me hurte whiche thyng they much marked not because of the foyle they had which I would haue suppressed Alphonsus therfore whiche had the Testamente in his hande and turned ouer leafe by leafe at the lenght he commeth to the .5 to the Corinthiens and there red howe that he was giltye whiche made no difference of the lordes bodie yea syr quoth I but therwith he

furth was free of manye an yeres after Christe to beleue or not beleue what is that quoth he Transubstantiation said I. Why you are not cōdempned therefore only quod he Yes quoth I that am I and bycause I denye that wicked men do receaue Christes bodie No quoth he you agree not with vs in the presence nor in nothing els How you beleue quoth I you knowe for my parte I confesse a presence of hole Christe God and man to the the fayth of the receauour No quoth he you muste beleue a Reall presence in the sacrament In the sacramente quoth I No I will not shute hym vppe nor tye hym to it otherwise then faithe see the and permitteth If I woulde include Christes reall presence in the sacrament or tye hym to it otherwise then to the Fayth of the receauer then the wycked man shoalde receiue him whiche I do not nor will not beleue by goddes grace More pitie quoth he but a man maye easelye see you make no presence at all and therefore you agree not therein with vs. I make a presence quoth I and a true presēce but to the fayth of the receauer What quoth one that stode by of Christes verie bodie whiche died for vs yea quoth I euē of whole Christe God and man to the faythe of hym that receaueth it why quoth maister Harpsfeld this is nothing els but to exclude the omnipotencie of God and all kynde of myracle in the Sacrament No ꝙ I I do not exclude his omnipotencie but you rather doo it For I beleue that Christe can accomplishe his promise the substaunce of bread and wine beinge their still as well as the accidents And quoth I I counte it a greate miracle that common bread shoulde be made a spiritual bread that is a bread ordeined of God not for the foode of the bodye but rather for the foode of the soule For when we come to the sacrament we come not feade our bodies and therfore we haue but a litle peice of bred but we come to feade our soules by faith whiche the wicked waunte and therfore they receaue nothynge but Panem Domini as Iudas did and Panem Dominum as the other the Apostles did The wicked saithe maister Harpsfeld do receiue the verie bodie of Christe but not the grace of his bodie No quoth I they receaue not the body for it is no dead carkase He y t receaueth it receiueth the spirite whiche is not with out grace I wyne Wel quoth he you haue very many errors you counte y e Masse for abhominacion and yet saint Abrosse saide masse And so red oute of a boke written a sentence of sainct Ambrose to ꝓue it Why sir quod I the masse as it is now was nothinge so in saint Ambrose tyme. was not the most perte of the Canon made sithen by Gregorius Scolasticus and others In ded quoth he a greate peice of it was made as ye saye by Gregorius but Scholasticꝰ was before S. Ambrose tyme. I wene not quoth I howbeit I wyll not contend Saint Gregorie saith that the Apostles said masse with out Cannons onely with the lords praier you saye true quoth he for the Canon is not the greateste parte of the masse ▪ The greatest part is the sacrifice eleuacion transubstantiacion and adoracion I can awaye with none of those quoth I No I thincke the same quoth he But yet Hoc facite telleth plain lye the sacrifice of the churce ▪ you consider not well quoth I this worde sacrifice not discernynge betwixte the sacrifice of the churche and the sacrifice for the churche The sacrifice of the Churche is no propitiatorie sacrifice but a gratulatorie sacrifice The sacrifice Christe hym self offered is the propitiatorie sacrifice And as for your Hoc facite is not referred to anye sacrifyinge but to the whole action takynge eatynge you speake nowe quoth he not learnedlye for Chryste made his supper onelye to the .12 not admittinge his mother or any of the seuentie disciples to it Nowe the Apostles doo signifie the priestes I thincke quoth I that you speake ▪ as you would mē shoude vnderstand it for els you woulde not kepe the Cup awaye from the Laitie We haue greate cause to thācke you that you wil giue vs the bread for I perceaue you make it as thoughe Christe had not cōman̄ded it to his whole church Frō this talke he went to show me Eleuacion bringing out a place of Saint Basilius de spiritu ▪ And I told him that I had red y t place which semeth not to make of eleuatiō But ꝙ I be it as it is I haue ben in Prison long without bokes and all necessaries for studie and therfore I muste omitte these thinges death draweth nye I by your leaue must not leaue of to prepare for it If I could do you good quoth he I woulde be right glad either in soule or body for you are in a perellous case both waies Sir quoth I I thāck you for your good wil. My cause is as it is I thancke God it was neuer so wel with me for death to me shall be life I truste and hope in god It were beste for you to desire maister Harpsfeld quoth maister Cressewell y t he mighte make sute for you for a time to cōferre Vnto whiche woordes Maister Harpsfeld said that he would doe the beste he could for he pitied my case verie sore Sir quoth I to desire any bodie to sewe for tyme for me I neuer wil do it by godes helpe For I am not wauerynge nor I would not that anye bodye should thincke I were so But if you haue the charitie and loue towardes me you pretend and ther to doo thincke that I am in an errour I thincke the same shoulde moue you to doo as you woulde be done by as you thincke of me so do I of you that you are farre out of the way not only thincke it but also am therof assured In this and suche lyke gentle talke we departed he saing y t he would pray for me others willinge me to desire him to sue for me whiche I did not But I wished hym as muche good as he did me And as he was goinge and bad me farewell he turneth againe geueth me Ireneus prayinge me to read ouer a certeine place in it whiche thīg I told him I wold although I had red it before At the dore the wife of the house mete hym asked hym how he had done Forsothe Maisters quoth he I fynd alwaies one maner of mā of him as I found him so I leaue him I pray you sir quoth she do hym no hurte No quoth he but if I can I wil do hym good At after diner the same daye maister Clayden my keper commeth vnto me from the Erle of Darbye with whome he had dyned beinge sent for purposly about me Nowe after his cōming home this was the some of hys talke That the Erle would gladly haue me not to die

how I was certain of saluaciō of my religion Marie quod I amittinge all formalities saue y t I thācked thē for their good wil by the word of god by the scriptures I am certein of saluacion and of my religion Verye wel said quod my Lord of yorke But howe doo you knowe the worde of God and the scriptures but by the church In dede my Lorde quoth I the churche was and is a meane to bring a mā more spedely to know the scriptures and the woorde of God as was the woman of Samaria was a meane y t the Samaritains knew Christ but as when they had herd hym speake they said now we know y t he is Christ not bycause of the woordes but bycause we our selfes haue heard hym so quoth I after we come to the hearing and reading of the scriptures showed to vs and discerned by the church we doo beleue them and know them not by cause the church saith they are the scriptures but bicause they be so beinge therof assured by the same spirite whiche wrote and spake them ▪ yea quoth my lord of yorke but you know in the Apostles time at the firste the word was not written True quoth I if you meane it for some bokes of the bokes of the newe Testamēt but els for the olde testament Peter telleth vs that we haue Firmiorem sermonem Propheticum a more sure worde of prophecie Not quod I that it is simplie so but in respecte of the Apostles persons whiche beinge a liue and compassed with infirmitie attributed to the worde written more firmitie as wherewith no faulte coulde be founde whereas for the infyrmitye of their ꝑsons men perchaūce might haue founde some faulte at there perchīng Albeit in verie dede no lesse obedience faith ought to haue ben giuen to the one then to the other as being all of one spirite of truth That place of Peter quoth my Lorde of yorke is not so to be vnderstande of the worde of God written yes sir quoth I that it is and of none other yea in dede quoth my lord of Chichester maister Bradford doth tel you y e truth in that pointe Well quoth my Lorde of yorke you knowe that Ireneus and others do magnify much the churche and alledge the Churche againste heretickes and not the scriptures True quoth I for they had to do with suche heretickes as dyd denye the scriptures and yet dyd magnifie the Apostles that they were inforsed to vse those churches wherin the Apostles had taught and that churche stil had receiued the same doctrine you speake the verie truethe quoth my Lorde of Chichester for the heretickes did refuse all scriptures excepte it were a peice of Lukes gospell Then quoth I the alledginge of the churche can not be primarlye or principallye vsed againste me whiche am so farre from denyinge of the scriptures that I appele vnto them vtterlye as to the onelye iudge Io .xii. A pretye matter quoth my Lorde of yorke that you will take vppon you to iudge the Churche I praye you where was your ●hurche this manye yeres for the Churche of Chryste is Catholicke and visible Hytherto my Lorde quoth I I doo not iudge the churche when I discerne it from that congregacion those whiche be not in it And I neuer denied the church to be Catholike and visible althoughe at some times it is more visible thē at som I praye you quoth my Lorde of Chichester tel me where the churche which alowed your doctrine was this .iiii. C. yeres ▪ I will tel you my Lorde quoth I or rather you shall tell it you selfe If you will tell me where the church was in Helias time when Helias said that he was lefte alone That is no aunswere quoth my Lorde of Chichester I am more sorye you saye so quoth I But this will I tell you lordshipp that the same eies wherewith a mā might haue espied the church thē yf you nowe had them you would not saye it were no answere The fault why the churche is not sene of you is not bycause the churche is not visible but bicause your eyes are not clere ynoughe to se it you are much deceiued quoth he to make such a collation betwine the churche then now Verie well speks my Lord quoth the Byshoppe of yorke for Christes saith Edificabo ecclesiam meam I wyll buylde my churche and not I do or haue buyld it but I will build it My lord quoth I Peter taught me to make this collacion saying as in the people there was false Prophetes whiche were muche in estima●ion afore Christes comming so shall there be false teachers nowe and verye manye shall followe them And as for your futurtence I hope your grace quod I wil not exclude thereby Christs church not to haue ben before ▪ but rather that there is no buyldinge in the Churche but by Christes woorke onelye For Paule and Apollo be but waterers In good faith maister Bradford quoth my my lord of Chichester I am sorye to see you so litle to mind the churche He taketh vpon him as they al doo to iudge the church quod my Lorde of yorke A man shall neuer come to certentie that doth as they doo My Lorde quoth I take me beseche you in good part I speake simplie what I thincke and I desire reason to aunswere my obiections your affections sorowes can not by rules If that you consider the ende and cause of my condempnacion I can not thincke but that it shoulde so● thinge moue your honours you knowe it well ynoughe for you herd it no matter was layed againste me but what was gathered vppon myne one confession Bycause I denyed transubstantiacion and the wycked to receaue Christes body in the Sacramente therfore I was condempned and excommunicate but not of the Church although the pillers of the same as they be taken dyd it No quoth my Lorde of Chichester I herd say that the cause of youre prisonemente was for that you exhorced the people to take the sword in the one hande and the matocke in the other I neuer ment any suche thynge nor speake any thynge in that sorte my lord quoth I. yea quoth my Lorde of Yorke you behaued your selfe before the Counsell so stoutlye at the first that you woulde defend the Religion then and therefore worthelye were you punished your grace quoth I did here me aunswere my Lorde Chauncellor in that pointe But put the case I had ben so stote as they and your grace make it was not the lawes of y e realme on me side then wherfore vniustlie I was punished Onely transubstantiacion which was had on myne owne confession was the thing on which my lorde Chauncellor proceded you denye the presence quoth my lord of yorke I do not quoth I to the faith of the worthy receauer Why quoth he what is that thē to saye that Christe lyeth not of the alter No my lorde quoth I in dede I beleue not suche