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A19856	The replie of Iohn Darrell, to the answer of Iohn Deacon, and Iohn Walker, concerning the doctrine of the possession and dispossession of demoniakes	Darrel, John, b. ca. 1562.	1602 (1602)	STC 6284; ESTC S109294	61,620	110

misconstructions wrestings of Scriptures in absured collections in impudent reiecting the authoritie of the ancient in shamelesse pretending the names of good authours against their owne meanings in childish stumbling in the first rudiments of Arts in most frequent lying and slaundering and which is greatest of all in dangerous and scandalous assertions mixed with some notorious blasphemies and then it may be you shall carie the bell of al that haue written in our times Great cause there is we should all make bonefires for the publishing of your bookes or rather of your published bookes but especially M. Bishop who got the priuiledge ad imprimendum solum I beleeue he beshrewes your fingers for it A REPLIE TO THE THIRD DIALOGVE YOur Vses are sutable to your doctrine For what other thing can proceede from a Cockatrices egge then a serpent Yet Lycanthropus admires and applaudes them and so perhaps may some 1. Ioh. 2. 27 doe that be not well in their wits But they which haue receiued the annointing that teacheth vs concerning all things will abhorre your prodigious dotage and the more when they consider your vses which manifest plainly that your errours be not about strawes and rushes such as without danger might be contemned and neglected but which draw after them most perillous consequences mightily shaking the verie foundation and chiefest pillers of our faith You pretend that this your doctrine of finall determination of possessions dispossessions of Spirits and Diuels affordeth first an holy meditation concerning the vndoubted faithfulnesse and truth of our eternall God in that he promising four thousand years fully before to send the seed of a woman which should bruise the serpents head hath in his owne determined time fulfilled the same by sending his sonne We beleeue and know it that not one iote of the Lordes promise hath failed but doth your doctrine yeeld any confirmation of it Nay verily but doth vtterly ouerthrow it and make the Lord of truth to haue falsified his word The Lord hath promised by sending his sonne fully to subdue and vanquish Satan your doctrine doth teach vs that Christ by his death hath onely made an end of possessions and dispossessions of diuels that is that he hath only deliuered Demoniaks such as were actually tormented in their bodies by the Diuels What Are all the Elect Demoniakes Haue you not taught vs. that Possessions were very rare before Christs time and that it was verie probable there were none at all in Israel till a little before his comming and none after the Apostles Are only then these men deliuered by Christs death You haue quit the Lord indeed wel of his promise He promised the breaking of Satans head you make that Christ hath scarce pulled one lock of haire frō his head He promised deliuerance for al his elect you restrain this deliuerance only to m enactually possest with diuells He promised vs a gift● as i● were of an hundreth thousand talents you make him to haue satisfied his promise in bestowīg vpon vs an hūdreth pence Do men satisfy bondes in such manner Doth a Creditor to whome is owing a thousand pound hold himselfe contented in receauing two or thre shillinges ●ye vpon your comfort you are miserable comforters But this determination you say of Satans Actuall possession may confirme faith and hope for the vtter subuersion of the whole kingdom of darknes I answer you ly falsly if your doctrine be true For hope can expect no more then faith doth presently imbrace but by your teaching faith doth not imbrace a ful vanguishing of satans kingdome by Christs death but onely an end of Actual possessions which neither was accomplished as hath bene shewed and therfore hope cannot looke for any further subuersion of Satans kingdome then is alredie Now let the godly iudge what lyeth hiden in your doctrine whether they be things to be tolerated and cooly dealt in or no or rather of such nature that if you will not reclaime them all louers of the truth ought to spit in your faces in detestation of your errours So likewise when you speak of God his al sufficiencie of Christs triumph and of the Diuels captiuitie who so euer trusts to your doctrine in these poynts shall perceaue he leanes vpon a staffe of reede which when hee shall stand in neede of it will brea●e a sunder and run through his body as may sufficiently be seene by this little that I haue nowe remembred as also by that hath beene more fully declared in Suruey of your Sixt Dialogue your vses then are wretched and therefore I leaue them The proper vse that can be made of your doctrine is that Christians should now shew their wisedome in practising that rule our Sauiour Christ hath taught them namely this beware of salse prophets which come to you in sheepes clothing but inwardly they are rauening Math. 7. 15 wolues Thou hast seene in this book of theirs good Reader these men professing themselues The Lord his vnworthiest on earth In the subscription to three of thei● Epistles when they beginne their disputations to begin the same with prayer recreating themselues with singing of psalmes to wish the Reuerend brethren if they haue faulted either in matter or mannerto confute them and spare not withall desiring the blessing of God to light on their hearts for their labour that way to haue vsed many wordes of Dial. Discou pag. 7● 262. Epist Dedi Ans goodly pretence of great obedience to the magistrate of great care of their brethrens good of great synceritie in calling euery thing to the triall of the Scripture and many such other faire shewes On the other side thou may st see by this Suruey and Reply what abundance of vile and grosse errors is packed vp in these their treatises What litle conscience they make of god his truth Of lying slandering how exceedingly they haue trifled in ech seuerall poynt and now by these vses how all tendes to this to descredit God his truth in fulfilling his promise to impeach his sufficiency for van quishing of fatan to restrain Christs triumph to a thing of nothing to limit Satans captiuitie with loosing of a skonse and such like which thinges beeing thus now it will shortly and easily more appeare whither these men be false prophets or no Fo● if they shal recant themselues of their errours and as they haue giuen publike scandall to the Church in labouring to draw men after their fancies so againe in submission to the truth disclame all such opinio n dissonant from the sacred word throwing the first s●one at themselues to the end all other may beware of them then they shall be manif ested to haue shipped but of infirmi●ie and to be such indeed as they would seeme Otherwise if they will still maintaine defend them then thou ●eest good reader these mens sheepes clothing and how for thy sake I haue pulled it ouer their eares whe●by thou ma●est behold them

Apostles faith was so strong as it needed no meanes to stirre vp the same And I would tell you you say vntruly but that your skore is so full that now you be desperate Of these two bastardly propositions conceiued and brought forth by your selues and not by me you frame a Contradiction saying therupon that I will turne ●re I burne yea with the turning of an hand turne the cat in the pan and then you tell my pupils they may be pestilent proud of such a turne-about tutor Here wee may beholde as your honest dealing with me so your eloquence and modestie Besides I auouching the Apostles strong faith after Pentecost able for miracles whatsoeuer and therefore vnlikely the Lord should appoint a peculiar course for them for so short a time as from his transfiguration till then you collect from hence the weaknes of their faith till Penticost which I graunt you and more then that namely that their miraculous faith was vtterly extinct at this time And therfore no vse of fasting and prayer for the extraordinarie work but onely as it serued to the vsual maner of the Church in this case But you wil proue the apostles miraculous faith might faile a●ter Pentecost because their faith failed sometimes in doctrine and 〈◊〉 That we may vnderstand your meaning what do y● 〈◊〉 by Doctrine what by iudgement Doctrine vsuall is publike teaching and instruction Iudgment priuate thinking and opinion Did the Apostles erre in publike teaching You saye The Apostles and bretheren which were in Iud●a thought the word of God was not to be preached to the Gentils Act. 11. 2. You ground this ou● of these wordes And when Peter was asc●nded to H●erusalem they of the circumcision contended against him VVho contended with him The Apostles say you but without any warrant from the text It seemeth S. Luke hauing mentioned the Apostles in the first verse doth of purpose in the second vse these generall termes They of the circumcision to distinguish these contenders with Peter frō the Apostles It may be the Apostles did not yet ●o clearly vnderstand this mistery yet it is not likelie they were in this ca●e no more but equall to the weake brethren whereby the● should ioyne in contention with them Grant we also an errour here it was only in iudgement not in doctrine And as for Peters not going rightly to the truth of the Gospell it was not error Gat. 2. 13. 14 either in doctrine or iudgement but a timorous dissimulation for the time Iohn his falling downe before an Angell was errour through R●ue 19. 10 sodaine passion not proceeding from setled iudgement much lesse auouched in publike teaching Considering therefore these places proue not that the Apostles erred in doctrine and iudgement and that the Lord doth principall● promise that the Spirit of truth should l●ad Ioh. 16. 13 14. 26. 1. Cor. 3. 10. Ephes 2. ●0 them into all truth and bring all things to their remembrance which Christ had told them whereupon they be called Skilfull Maister-builders and the Church is said to be built vpon the foundation of the prophets and apostles It is admirable you dare so considently auouch such an assertion vpon so little or rather no warrant and of so dangerous consequence You childishly cauill at my speech where I say Their faith did not faile them after they receiued the holy Ghost in ●ag 127. c That f●●nesse as if I had attributed such a fulnesse to thē as is not incident to a creature and yet I expresly distinguish it by note of restraint Act. 7. 55. 13. 9. Luc. 1. 41. Act. 2. 2. 4 That fulnesse that is such a plentifull measure as I had spoken of before Such an one as was said of Stephen ●hat hee was ful of the holy Ghost and of Paul and of Elizabeth when shee brake forth into that heauenly salutation of the blessed virgin that she was filled with the holy ghost The same is said of Zacha●y when he prophecied and of the Apostles that they were filled with the holy ghost And all these in the Concret but in the Abstract without all limitation to haue the fulnesse ●f the Spirit belongeth onely to a diuine person the Father the Sonne and the holy Ghost So that whatsoeuer person hath the simple fulnesse of the Spirit the same is God as well as hee who hath the fulnesse of the Godhead Of Christ his fulnesse to whom the Father hath not giuen his Spirit by measure do all the elect receiue not the fulnes it selfe but grace for grace that is graces or gifts of the Spirit heaped vpon graces euery one according to the measure of the gift of Christ some euē vntil their cup runne ouer All which discourse when at last you pag. 133. conclude that howsoeuer the Apostles were subiect to errour yet they could not pos●iblie erre s● long as they heard the voice of Christ and but followed the onely directions of the spirit of truth And that they did neuer vniuersally erre Moreouer that they did neuer ●●cline from the foundation it selfe lastly that they w●re recalled from their e●r●urs● what singular thing do you ascribe to the Apostles that is not common to all beleeuers Are not the Apostles to be preferred aboue all other Ministers of the Gospell and beleeuers since theire dayes Yet you seeme to put them in the very same ra●ke Nay you say in the top of the same page that there ●e some F●st●noni●s of the Apostles which onely but slipped from humane infirmities and that these ●ow glorious soeuer in shew are not the testimony of Iesus therfore not the spirit of proph●cie you speake here very daungerously that I say no worse You argue the defect of the Apostles miraculous ●aith from their pag. 135. Act. 4. 29 30. 9. 40 〈◊〉 8. 8 praying in working miracles which rather is an argument for the continuance of it For if it had ●in vtterly extin● it had not bene to ●e obtained by prayer but if you say Prayer declareth the ●eaknes of it and that you meane such weaknesse as without prayer ha● not beene able to effect the worke it is false 〈◊〉 hath beene oft ●emembred vnto you but if you take weaknesse for some lesse measure of Matt. 17. cheerefulnesse which had neede be stirred by inuocation of Gods holy name I graunt you such a weaknesse but this is too weake to strengthen any whit your cause you charge mee falsly in saying I denie that the apostles faith might did faile before they were filled with Doct. pag. 46 48 Doct. 49 pag. 136 the holy Spirit I know not how oft I affirme this which you say is the very point I denie Neither do I say it was but fortie dayes betweene Christ his transfigi●ation and Pentecost I do writtingly let passe manie of your lies it is a trouble to repeate them you see no inconuenience to approper these words This kind