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A37176	Good counsells for the peace of reformed churches by some reverend and learned bishops and other divines ; translated out of Latine.	Dury, John, 1596-1680.; Davenant, John, ca. 1572-1641.; Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659.; Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.; Ussher, James, 1581-1656.	1641 (1641)	Wing D319; ESTC R15642	50,356	151

it good and as much as in him lay he did procure and effect it All this was but duty in him to doe and can it be lesse then dutie in us And here I should but trifle away the time should I goe about to play the Oratour and expresse at large to the Germane Churches the blessings that accompany Peace Unitie the many miseries calamities of a long-continued Schisme and Division That speech of Prudentius is a most certaine trueth scissura domestica turbat Rem populi titubatque foris quod dissidit intùs civill and intestine broiles alwaies prove the undoing of a people nor doe things ever goe right abroad when there is dissention at home What may make most for the good and advantage of their Churches let it be their care to consider and resolve this with themselves that what ever it be it is not onely to be sought after with their prayers but with the utmost diligence and endeavours of every one of them in particular Neither let any unexperienced men amongst them thinke or hope that they shall ingratiate themselves with Papists and so live more peaceably by them and suffer lesse harme from them by refusing to enter into freindship and fellowship with Calvinists as they terme them What is to be hoped for expected from them we may learne from Osiander Papists saith he spare neither Lutherans nor Zuinglians but condemne both of them to fire and faggot in all those places where the Pope that raging and ravenous beast of Rome beare's rule and sway They that are most in favour with them can at best but hope for that kindnesse from them which Vlysses in Homer obtained of Polyphemus {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} to be devoured last after he had lookt on and seene all his freinds and companions devoured before him They will perhaps destroy the Calvinists first but the Lutherans must look to follow after them none are like to escape in the end if once the Papists have them at their mercy What hitherto hath been said is to show that a Communion and Reconciliation of the Germane Churches is a thing not only possible but in obedience to Gods commandement a necessary duty It now remaine's that J proceed to set downe the way and meanes whereby such a Reconciliation may be compassed and the rents and distractions of the said Churches may with most conveniencie and speed bee made up which I shall doe rather to testifie that vehement desire zeale which I have to so good a work than out of any opinion that those famous Churches which alwaies have abounded with store of learned and pious Divines can any way stand in need of advice herein from me or any other forraigne Divine whatsoever Seeing therefore that the fore-mentioned Controversies may be agitated either betwixt severall and distinct Churches whereof one is no way subordinate to the other or else betwixt such particular men as are members of the same Church and subjects to one the same Prince J will speak first of divers Churches independent one upon another and afterwards of particular men in one the same Church and show how Peace and Unitie may be made and preserved amongst them For the first I conceive there 's no readier and better way for reducing of two different Churches to the same Communion than is that usuall one of procuring a faire and peaceable Conference amongst Divines of both sides authorised and appointed thereunto by their Princes For if any one imagine that a Councell being once held of all the Reformed Churches there will out of hand within the compasse of some few moneths or yeares yea or in one age an end be put to all disputes whatsoever which have of a long time troubled and busied the Learned so as that they shall all joyne and agree in the same opinion about all such points of controversie this with submission to better judgements seemes to me very unlikely For so dull and dim-sighted is the eye of our understanding that it can hardly peirce into the depth of such subtle and intricate Questions no not when it is alone free and undisturbed in it's contemplations but being distracted by the stirs tumults of disputation so far unable are we to penetrate into the quick of them that many times we cannot so much as discerne and perceive them no not when we look upon them with a fixt and steddy eye And to speak plainly what I conceive in this matter the cheife use of Councells especially of Generall Councells is to maintaine and defend those necessary and plaine points of Faith against the oppositions of Hereticks rather than to discusse or determine nice controversies of lesser moment and use To returne then to that faire freindly Conference which but now I commended for the likeliest and fittest meanes of obtaining an Union if it could be undertaken with such an intention mannaged in such sort as it ought to be wee have good cause to hope that we shall in a short time see a blessed Peace and Union established amongst the Germane Churches This therefore must carefully be remēbred by all such as shall be present parties to such a Meeting that the end why they are called together is not that like Adversaries they should strive for the mastery but rather that they should like Brethren search out and make use of all lawfull and warrantable meanes for the setling of Peace and Unitie For if once they fall a crossing and contending one with another they will never be able to perswade much lesse to procure any agreement betwixt such Churches as are at ods and opposition Let them therefore carefully keep off and forbeare to enter the intricate Labyrinths of ordinary disputes let their meeting aime at this one end to make it appeare to their Churches how that there 's no just cause why they should any longer stand out and refuse to joyne hands and be united To effect this let it in the first place be set downe how farre the Church Catholike hath declared herselfe in each Controversie what hath been by her defined and required to be beleived generally by all sub Anathemate For about points fundamentall there may sometimes arise such doubts and disputes as are no way fundamentall and such as that the ancient Fathers of the Church had they been raised in their times would never have attempted a decision of them to the hazard of breeding or fostering a Schisme betwixt severall Churches For instance that God is One in Essence and Three in Persons distinguished one from another that the Sonne is begotten of the Father that the holy Ghost is the Spirit of both Father and Sonne that these three Persons are coeternall and coequall all these are fitly determined and reckoned in the number of Fundamentalls but now if any man should peremptorily affirme and maintaine that all those Schoole-nicities touching the manner of the Sonne

Points of true Religion and that in their Discipline and forme of Divine worship there is neither Idolatry nor Superstition such of the Faithfull of that Confession as shall with the spirit of Charity and in a truly peaceable way joyne themselves unto the publike Assemblies of the Churches in this Kingdome and desire to communicate with them may without the abjuration of their former Opinions which they hold contrary to the beleife of these Churches be admitted to the holy Table contract marriages with the faithfull of our Confession and present themselves in the quality of Godfathers to the children which shall be baptized upon their promise given to the Consistory that they will never solicite such children directly or indirectly against the Doctrine beleived and professed in our Churches but shall content themselves with giving them instruction onely in those Points wherein we all agree We are not ignorant how that many objections may be made against this Decree by such as have a mind to contend cavill but such objections they are most of them as have but litle strength and validity in them and such as can no way stand in comparison with those waighty reasons wherewith the Christian Faith and Charity doe furnish us It is not our purpose to insist on every particular onely in general we think it not amisse to put men in minde of two things which if they were observed with that care as it fitting both sides perhaps would henceforth judge more mildly and charitably of each other than hitherto they have done First then speciall heed would be taken by us that the assertions and Opinions of private men though Doctors though of never so great esteem and repute amongst their own men be not father'd on that whole Church wherein such men live as the common and generally received Doctrine of them all For what can be imagined more unequall than that one man's crime or commendation should be imputed to all and what by him hath been spoken well or ill should be rewarded or punished in others who were so farre from deserving any such matter as that many times such things are fastned on them as they never so much as once heard of from others or once thought thereupon themselves The generall Doctrine of each severall Church is laid downe and comprised in publike Confessions severall for each side Their's namely the Doctrine of the Lutheran party in the Augustane Confession as they terme it that of the other side in many severall Confessions diversly expressed according to the diversity of Countries and Kingdomes From these are we to judge and esteeme what is held and maintained by both seeing they doe all professe themselves to assent and adhere to these and that they will live dye in this Faith But for ought I know neither doe they so generally approve the writings of Brentius or Chemnitius nor doe these so farre magnifie Piscator or Beza as if they would that whatsoever is affirmed by those men should be admitted and acknowledged as the common and necessary Faith of all Christians Nay so farre are they both of them from this folly that they themselves freely reprove and censure their own men and mark out many passages in their writings as different from the common and received Doctrine of their Church Whence it follow's that the sayings of such men whosoever they be are unjustly and to speake the most favourably of it preposterously fatherd on the whole Church in which they lived And yet notwithstanding what else are all those Tenents with which Protestant Divines cast one another in the teeth with which they upbraid one another as if they were the publike and generall faults of the two adverse parts and for which they so labour to draw one another into envy contempt I say what else are they but the private Positions of some particular Doctors on both sides vented many times either in choler and passion or out of a vehement zeale to maintaine their Cause when they were hard pressed put to it either with the difficulty of the things themselves or the subtilty of an acute adversary and so spake rather out of necessity than judgement and premeditation For truely so sound and untainted are the publike Confessions of our Churches on each side that there is very litle and hardly any thing which either of them can finde wanting in the other's Confession Our Divines in Germany doe commend the Augustane Confession and no doubt but our Brethren the Lutherans will in like manner approve of ours for the farre greater part of it would they but once be pleased to read it over impartially without passion and prejudice Certainly neither in that Confession of theirs shall any man meet with that Vbiquity of Christ's body which wee condemne in Lutheranisme nor is this of ours that Stoicall Fate so much objected against us But a second fault there is very frequent amongst men of both sides and almost hereditary which ought as we conceive with all care and diligence to bee shun'd and avoided in this businesse namely that they who maintaine any Position should not bee thought to hold whatsoever seemes to us to follow thereupon by the rules of disputation For it often fall's out that he who hold's a Principle from which such a Conclusion is inferred may notwithstanding be utterly ignorant of that which is inferred from his Principle For instance he that first observed the Loadstone to point towards the North Pole did not forthwith perceive all the severall experiments that have been afterwards made from thence for the use and benefit of Navigation for Conclusions lye hid and buried in their Principles nor are they deduced thence without some paines and study He therefore who hold's some Principle and withall doth either not heed and regard it or else considers it but with an Intellect which is either dull or prepossessed with anger or affection or some other passion this man from that Principle of his which hee understand's doth not straightway understand whatsoever may be knowne and concluded from it Thus they who live in the Papacy having their mindes bewitched that I may so speake with the authority of their Leaders though they grant with us that the sinnes of men are most fully expiated by that sacrifice offered up by Christ on the Crosse yet can they not hence conclude although it evidently follow hereupon that their Sacrifice of the Altar is vaine and superfluous Now as he who understand's some one Trueth is sometimes ignorant of other Trueths which are consequent thereupon so likewise he who hath some erroneous Opinion must not therefore be thought to hold and maintaine all the absurdities that may be inferred from it for there 's the same account to bee made of consequences either way Thus Tertullian of old and many of the ancient Fathers taught that the humane soule is derived from the Father to the Sonne by way of propagation but that 't is mortall which

's generation and the procession of the holy Ghost are likewise fundamentall and of equall necessity with the former ought to be determined one way that man should deserve but litle thanks from Christ and his Church by such his rash and inconsiderate assertion So likewise that our Lord Jesus Christ is both God and Man that he hath both natures divine and humane inseparably united in one Person and that we have salvation onely by this God incarnate all this is fundamentall or rather 't is that firme immoveable foundation whereon the whole Catholike saving Faith is built but yet notwithstanding we must not think that whatsoever may be questioned and debated about the ineffable manner of that union betwixt the two natures or the manner how his body is present in the blessed Sacrament as also concerning the Communication of Properties unto the humane nature by vertue of its union with the Divinity or touching the actions and operations of his Humanity depending upon the said Union wee must not I say imagine that all these belong to Fundamentall Faith but rather to Theologicall Science or perhaps not so neither but onely to the vaine curiosity of some particular Divines Let them therefore make this their first and maine businesse carefully to distinguish betwixt fundamentall points and others that are not so and let them not think that whatsoever is appendant and bordering upon a fundamentall point must therefore forth with be it selfe fundamentall When this is once done their next care must be that these fundamentalls be expressed and published after a breife and perspicuous manner and propounded to the publike acceptation and approbation of all the Churches Certa semper sunt in paucis saith Tertullian certaine and undoubted Trueths are not many and they are such as maybe delivered in a few words whatsoever is necessary for a Christian man's salvation to be knowne by him and whatsoever is conducible to render us holy or eternally happy it is all of it plaine and obvious Here 's no use either of subtle acute distinctions or of any long and tedious explications which are oftimes used not for the building up of Christians in the fundamentall faith but rather to favour and further the different opinions of private Doctors In a word here 's no use of any Metaphysicall formalities and abstracted notions which serve only to perplex and confound the learned and to deterre such as are unlearned from embracing the Catholike Faith but doe not any way encline the hearts either of one or other to yeild assent and beleife to the fundamentall points of Faith After they have proceeded thus far having drawn up a breife and plaine Forme of all such Points as are by them judged to appertaine unto the substance of that common Faith which is necessary to be known and professed by all Churches having passed by left undecided all such points as are not so generally received agreed upon in the next place moderate peaceable Divines should labour to exhort and perswade all the rest that they would quietly lay aside all controversies and contentions about such points as good Christians may safely be ignorant of without hazard of their salvation and that they would not quarrell any longer about thē to the danger of the Church the losse of her Peace and the scandall of Schisme which is thereby like to fall upon her Of what good use and necessity this advice is may be clearely seen from the rashnesse of the Church of Rome and her clean contrary practice herein who being not content with those Articles delivered in the Apostles Creed and Nicene Creed will needs obtrude upon the Christian world those other new-coin'd Articles of the Trent-conventicle and hath thereby ministred occasion of a perpetuall rent and Schisme amongst the Churches How much more prudently did that blessed Martyr and most learned Father of his Times S. Cyprian behave himselfe who professeth that he would not for difference in opinion contend or strive with any man nor would he break the peace of our Lord with his Brethren or cast off any man from his communion because he was of a different minde from him By which his Christian charity and moderation S. Cyprian though in an errour deserved better of the Church than Stephen Bishop of Rome who was in the right and did by his unquiet spirit as much as in him lay to rend and teare asunder the Churches Thus warranted by the example of this blessed Martyr and likewise by the judgement of S. Austin herein I need not stick to affirme that amongst the Doctors and Divines of Germany those who are in the errour and yet are willing and desirous to retaine a brotherly Communion with the rest are freer further from Schisme in Gods sight than they who are in the Trueth withall disdaine and deny to entertaine such a Communiō with other Churches which seek and sue for it If therefore they can but get an universall consent in all Fundamentalls though in other things there bee some difference amongst private Doctors yet let them all joyne their votes and voices in this prayer to God nulla salus bello pacem te poscimus omnes no safety can be had or hoped for in warre therefore give peace in our time ô Lord But if any here shall demand what course is to be taken about such Controversies as cannot be decided and agreed upon that they may not give any occasion whereby this Peace and Union of the Churches should be hindered or being obtained should afterwards be disturbed and lost I will set down some few rules which to me seeme worthy the observation and practice of Divines on both sides First that whatsoever tart and bitter passages have formerly slipt from Adversaries either by word or writing amids the heat of disputation they should all be pardond on both sides for the publike good and for ever after buried in silence and oblivion And if it happen that any of those books and writings should afterwards he reprinted before they passe the Presse let them first be purged of all gall bitternesse which otherwise would but rub up and renew the old sore of strife contention amongst brethren Secondly Because no man can with patience heare himselfe branded with Heresie heed must be taken that none be slandered with the name of Nestorian Eutychian or any other condemned Hereticke so long as he doth expresly denie and disclaime the damn'd Opinions of such Hereticks seeing it is utterly impossible that ever they should continue firme in a brotherly Communion and concord who for every petty difference in Opinion cease not by such reproachfull and reviling termes to provoke and exasperate one another And it were to be wished further that those siding names of Lutherans Zuinglians Calvinists were all laid aside which are badges rather of Faction than any fraternall Union anh such as the ancient Fathers could never approve of