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A61588 A rational account of the grounds of Protestant religion being a vindication of the Lord Archbishop of Canterbury's relation of a conference, &c., from the pretended answer by T.C. : wherein the true grounds of faith are cleared and the false discovered, the Church of England vindicated from the imputation of schism, and the most important particular controversies between us and those of the Church of Rome throughly examined / by Edward Stillingfleet ... Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1665 (1665) Wing S5624; ESTC R1133 917,562 674

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spirit_n of_o the_o son_n so_o cyril_n express_o when_o theodoret_n have_v deny_v the_o procession_n from_o the_o son_n he_o give_v no_o other_o answer_n but_o this_o 229._o the_o holy_a spirit_n do_v true_o proceed_v from_o god_n and_o the_o father_n according_a to_o our_o saviour_n word_n but_o be_v not_o of_o another_o nature_n from_o the_o son_n we_o see_v he_o content_v himself_o with_o the_o acknowledgement_n that_o the_o spirit_n be_v of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o the_o son_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n be_v another_o testimony_n of_o his_o produce_v by_o the_o patriarch_n hieremias_n speak_v of_o the_o spirit_n whereby_o the_o apostle_n speak_v he_o say_v which_o proceed_v in_o a_o ineffable_a manner_n from_o the_o father_n but_o be_v not_o different_a from_o the_o son_n in_o regard_n of_o his_o essence_n 202._o several_a other_o testimony_n be_v there_o produce_v by_o he_o and_o elsewhere_o by_o other_o which_o need_v not_o be_v here_o recite_v 2._o that_o when_o they_o 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essence_n so_o when_o s._n basil_n say_v that_o the_o father_n do_v create_v the_o world_n per_fw-la filium_fw-la he_o add_v that_o note_v no_o more_o than_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o conjunction_n of_o their_o wi_n and_o by_o this_o mean_v the_o greek_n interpret_v all_o those_o passage_n of_o the_o father_n which_o seem_v most_o express_a for_o the_o spirit_n be_v proceed_n ex_fw-la filio_fw-la so_o marcus_n ephesius_n tell_v the_o latin_n in_o the_o florentine_a council_n 19_o that_o when_o we_o say_v man_n come_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o man_n therein_o be_v not_o employ_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o man_n be_v the_o productive_a cause_n of_o man_n but_o only_o it_o note_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o communion_n of_o essence_n which_o be_v in_o man_n so_o when_o the_o greek_a father_n speak_v of_o the_o spirit_n be_v proceed_n ex_fw-la filio_fw-la that_o do_v not_o imply_v that_o the_o son_n be_v the_o principle_n of_o 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and_o such_o who_o deny_v the_o divinity_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o which_o purpose_n it_o be_v well_o observe_v by_o spalatensis_n 125._o that_o when_o the_o father_n of_o the_o constantinopolitan_a council_n do_v insert_v into_o their_o creed_n the_o article_n of_o the_o spirit_n be_v procession_n from_o the_o father_n they_o do_v it_o not_o with_o a_o purpose_n to_o define_v any_o thing_n concern_v the_o procession_n as_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n but_o that_o they_o may_v from_o those_o word_n of_o s._n john_n infer_v the_o divinity_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n because_o it_o proceed_v from_o the_o father_n and_o withal_o it_o be_v further_a observable_a that_o in_o the_o creed_n which_o charisius_n deliver_v into_o and_o be_v accept_v by_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n all_o that_o he_o say_v as_o to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v and_o in_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n the_o paraclete_n who_o be_v consubstantial_a with_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n 360._o by_o which_o 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