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chronologer_n and_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n to_o which_o we_o now_o add_v the_o word_n of_o bucholcerus_n in_o anno_fw-la 186._o about_o this_o year_n say_v he_o be_v bear_v origen_n the_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n at_o alexandria_n which_o depend_v on_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 203._o in_o which_o hieronymus_n write_v origen_n be_v about_o 17_o year_n old_a object_n the_o work_n of_o origen_n examen_fw-la examen_fw-la say_v mr_n t._n as_o of_o old_a be_v count_v full_a of_o error_n and_o dangerous_a to_o be_v read_v so_o as_o now_o they_o be_v we_o can_v hardly_o tell_v in_o some_o of_o they_o what_o be_v origen_n what_o not_o for_o the_o original_a be_v lose_v we_o have_v only_o the_o latin_a translation_n which_o be_v perform_v in_o many_o of_o his_o work_n and_o particular_o the_o homily_n on_o leviticus_n and_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n by_o ruffinus_n it_o appear_v by_o his_o own_o confession_n that_o he_o add_v many_o thing_n of_o his_o own_o in_o so_o much_o that_o erasmus_n in_o his_o censure_n of_o the_o homily_n on_o leviticus_n say_v that_o a_o man_n can_v be_v certain_a whether_o he_o read_v ruffinus_n or_o origen_n and_o perkins_n put_v among_o origen_n counterfeit_a work_v his_o commentary_n on_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n as_o be_v not_o faithful_o translate_v by_o ruffinus_n 1_o as_o we_o confess_v there_o be_v some_o error_n in_o origen_n and_o in_o who_o not_o so_o there_o be_v many_o learned_a animadver_n animadver_n pious_a and_o most_o spiritual_a thing_n precious_a gospel_n truth_n such_o as_o i_o have_v admire_v when_o i_o read_v they_o consider_v those_o dark_a time_n in_o so_o much_o as_o many_o now_o call_v preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n may_v go_v to_o origen_n if_o they_o have_v but_o the_o spirit_n of_o discern_a to_o learn_v to_o be_v gospel-preacher_n 2_o if_o mr_n t._n make_v these_o exception_n against_o origen_n why_o i_o say_v why_o do_v mr_n t._n urge_v origen_n for_o himself_o in_o his_o five_o argument_n in_o his_o exercitation_n as_o we_o hear_v afore_o true_o a_o man_n can_v hardly_o with_o patience_n enough_o look_v upon_o mr_n t._n his_o deal_n in_o this_o when_o we_o urge_v three_o place_n out_o of_o origen_n which_o you_o have_v before_o quote_v and_o translate_v and_o former_o urge_v by_o mr_n m._n for_o the_o ancient_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant_n than_o m._n t._n bespatter_v origen_n as_o you_o hear_v and_o origen_n be_v not_o origen_n with_o he_o but_o if_o mr_n t._n urge_v but_o one_o only_a place_n of_o origen_n to_o blast_v infant-baptisme_n with_o the_o scar_n of_o tradition_n and_o to_o contradict_v all_o approve_a antiquity_n afore_o then_o origen_n must_v be_v receive_v or_o else_o to_o what_o purpose_n do_v m._n t._n allege_v he_o urge_v no_o other_o by_o which_o to_o pretend_v infant-baptism_n to_o be_v a_o tradition_n 3_o master_n t._n have_v nothing_o to_o say_v against_o origen_n on_o luke_n and_o therefore_o he_o intimate_v a_o acknowledgement_n of_o one_o place_n urge_v by_o we_o from_o origen_n to_o stand_v good_a 4_o we_o give_v you_o all_o the_o place_n out_o of_o origen_n as_o translate_v into_o latin_a by_o hieronimus_fw-la as_o the_o best_a edition_n promise_v we_o 5_o perkins_n his_o note_v origen_n commentary_n on_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n as_o not_o faithful_o translate_v by_o ruffinus_n do_v not_o conclude_v it_o to_o be_v a_o counterfeit_a work_n 6._o if_o ruffinus_n do_v say_v he_o add_v many_o thing_n of_o his_o own_o in_o the_o translation_n of_o origen_n on_o the_o roman_n and_o leviticus_n for_o there_o be_v nothing_o say_v of_o luke_n sure_o he_o will_v not_o confess_v he_o have_v destroy_v the_o sense_n of_o origen_n or_o make_v he_o speak_v that_o he_o never_o mean_v this_o be_v to_o suppose_v ruffinus_n will_v disgrace_v himself_o under_o his_o own_o hand_n but_o mr_n t._n
namely_o unction_n and_o to_o prove_v that_o neither_o unction_n or_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v sacrament_n which_o though_o he_o prove_v by_o this_o argument_n that_o they_o be_v only_a appendix_n of_o sacrament_n yet_o he_o do_v not_o assert_v as_o from_o himself_o or_o from_o antiquity_n that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v to_o be_v conjoin_v with_o baptism_n but_o rather_o tell_v we_o the_o contrary_a partly_o from_o himself_o partly_o from_o those_o author_n he_o quote_v as_o that_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v that_o they_o give_v in_o command_n that_o man_n shall_v be_v reconcile_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n sect._n 53._o that_o reciliation_n be_v proper_a to_o repentance_n sect._n 54._o that_o though_o confirmation_n belong_v to_o the_o solemnity_n of_o baptism_n yet_o after_o a_o while_n after_o baptism_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o quotation_n of_o hieronimus_n tom._n 2._o in_o his_o diolog_n adu._n lucif_n 1._o we_o reply_v that_o if_o hieronimus_fw-la do_v confess_v imposition_n of_o hand_n on_o they_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v though_o he_o do_v not_o allege_v all_o scripture_n for_o it_o and_o so_o not_o that_o heb._n 6.2_o the_o antiquity_n hold_v good_a that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v use_v to_o be_v after_o apply_v to_o they_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v 2._o that_o hieronimus_fw-la in_o that_o place_n quote_v other_o place_n then_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o speak_v to_o our_o purpose_n thus_o orth._n neither_o can_v it_o be_v that_o he_o that_o be_v holy_a in_o baptism_n can_v be_v a_o sinner_n etc._n etc._n luc._n i_o receive_v a_o lay_v penitent_a person_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n know_v that_o the_o holy_a spirit_n be_v not_o confer_v by_o heretic_n orth._n see_v that_o he_o that_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n be_v make_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n it_o appear_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o without_o the_o holy_a spirit_n and_o to_o prove_v that_o that_o place_n act_v 19.2_o do_v suppose_v they_o have_v receive_v the_o save_a gift_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o baptism_n he_o bring_v math._n 3._o that_o john_n baptism_n be_v a_o baptism_n of_o repentancè_fw-la into_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o a_o little_a after_o if_o john_n do_v not_o baptize_v in_o the_o spirit_n than_o not_o into_o remission_n of_o sin_n for_o no_o man_n sin_n be_v remit_v without_o the_o spirit_n so_o hieronimus_fw-la wherefore_o he_o suppose_v imposition_n of_o hand_n may_v be_v on_o they_o that_o have_v the_o spirit_n in_o baptism_n afore_o so_o hieronimus_fw-la with_o much_o more_o which_o we_o omit_v to_o avoid_v tediousness_n thus_o far_o of_o mr_n tomb_n his_o first_o argument_n against_o infant-baptisme_n chap._n xi_o the_o second_o argument_n follow_v exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la that_o which_o agree_v not_o with_o the_o lord_n institution_n of_o baptism_n argu._n 2_o confirm_v §_o 15._o the_o argument_n from_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n mat._n 28.19_o against_o infant-baptisme_n confirm_v that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a but_o the_o rite_n of_o infant-baptisme_n agree_v not_o with_o the_o lord_n institution_n of_o baptism_n ergo._n the_o major_n be_v prove_v because_o institution_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o exhibit_v worship_n to_o god_n the_o minor_a be_v prove_v from_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n mat._n 28.19_o go_v therefore_o disciple_n you_o all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o whence_o i_o gather_v thus_o that_o rite_n agree_v not_o with_o the_o lord_n institution_n of_o baptism_n according_a to_o which_o they_o be_v baptize_v who_o the_o lord_n appoint_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v but_o after_o the_o rite_n of_o infant-baptisme_n they_o be_v baptize_v who_o the_o lord_n appoint_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v ergo._n the_o major_n be_v manifest_a of_o itself_o the_o minor_a be_v prove_v the_o lord_n appoint_v not_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v ergo._n the_o antecedent_n be_v prove_v those_o and_o no_o other_o the_o lord_n appoint_v to_o be_v baptize_v who_o have_v be_v make_v disciple_n but_o this_o can_v be_v say_v of_o infant_n ergo._n the_o argument_n be_v confirm_v from_o john_n 4.2_o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o jesus_n make_v more_o disciple_n then_o that_o he_o baptize_v first_o it_o be_v say_v that_o be_v make_v disciple_n then_o baptize_v some_o one_o perhaps_o will_v say_v that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v elsewhere_o institute_v although_o not_o here_o to_o which_o be_v answer_v let_v he_o that_o can_v bring_v forth_o that_o institution_n and_o the_o doubt_n will_v be_v loose_v but_o infant_n may_v be_v disciple_n for_o they_o may_v be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o spirit_n answ_n it_o be_v true_a infant_n may_v be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n purge_v by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n save_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n my_o mind_n abhor_v from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o they_o that_o assert_v that_o infant_n not_o baptize_v necessary_o perish_v or_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n nor_o do_v i_o doubt_v but_o that_o the_o elect_a infant_n die_v in_o infancy_n be_v sanctify_v yea_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v make_v know_v to_o we_o that_o they_o be_v sanctify_v i_o shall_v not_o doubt_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v remember_v the_o say_n of_o peter_n act._n 10.47_o can_v any_o man_n forbid_v water_n that_o these_o shall_v not_o be_v baptize_v who_o have_v recein_v the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o we_o then_o you_o will_v say_v make_v disciple_n in_o that_o place_n may_v be_v so_o expound_v as_o that_o it_o may_v include_v infant_n answ_n it_o follow_v not_o but_o this_o only_o follow_v that_o in_o case_n extraordinary_a we_o may_v depart_v from_o the_o ordinary_a rule_n but_o the_o ordinary_a rule_n be_v make_v disciple_n that_o be_v by_o preach_v the_o gospel_n make_v disciple_n as_o appear_v from_o mark_n 16.15_o and_o baptize_v they_o to_o wit_n who_o you_o have_v make_v 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mat._n 19.4.8_o argue_v from_o the_o institution_n of_o marriage_n against_o divorce_n for_o a_o light_a cause_n and_o polygamy_n because_o it_o be_v say_v two_o not_o more_o than_o two_o shall_v be_v one_o flesh_n so_o in_o like_a manner_n it_o may_v be_v here_o argue_v christ_n say_v baptise_v they_o and_o not_o other_o therefore_o these_o and_o not_o other_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v but_o as_o for_o he_o who_o gather_v from_o this_o place_n infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v because_o christ_n command_v all_o nation_n to_o be_v baptize_v very_o he_o be_v faulty_a 1._o in_o cast_v away_o that_o restriction_n that_o christ_n have_v put_v 2._o by_o determine_v that_o all_o man_n whatsoever_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v so_o that_o this_o be_v not_o a_o privilege_n of_o believer_n and_o their_o child_n but_o common_a with_o they_o to_o all_o infidel_n and_o their_o child_n and_o in_o very_a deed_n however_o assertor_n of_o infant-baptisme_n crack_v of_o a_o privilege_n of_o believer_n and_o their_o offspring_n not_o only_o the_o usual_a practice_n of_o baptise_v any_o little_a child_n offer_v but_o also_o say_n prove_v that_o man_n have_v go_v far_o not_o only_o from_o christ_n institution_n but_o also_o from_o the_o principle_n upon_o which_o man_n at_o this_o day_n be_v busy_a to_o establish_v infant-baptisme_n i_o shall_v prove_v this_o by_o some_o instance_n in_o the_o 59_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a to_o fidus_n from_o which_o augustine_n be_v wont_v in_o his_o disputations-against_a the_o pelagian_o to_o take_v his_o proof_n for_o infant-baptisme_n and_o to_o which_o writer_n attribute_v much_o although_o that_o i_o may_v say_v no_o worse_o without_o cause_n this_o reason_n be_v put_v why_o it_o be_v not_o assent_v to_o biship_n fidus_n who_o think_v that_o a_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v afore_o the_o eight_o day_n according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o ancient_a circumcision_n we_o
in_o stead_n of_o the_o outward_a sign_n of_o circumcision_n christ_n have_v institute_v another_o sign_n namely_o baptism_n that_o circumcision_n be_v to_o be_v do_v away_o at_o christ_n death_n at_o least_o and_o this_o to_o be_v use_v instead_o thereof_o more_o significant_a than_o the_o other_o for_o circumcision_n fit_o signify_v spiritual_a death_n to_o sin_n which_o be_v mortification_n but_o baptism_n be_v fit_v to_o signify_v more_o namely_o your_o rise_n from_o under_o the_o water_n lively_o represent_v your_o spiritual_a life_n by_o christ_n your_o rise_n to_o newness_n of_o life_n and_o both_o these_o have_v be_v effectual_o sign_v or_o seal_v to_o you_o by_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o you_o be_v no_o long_o to_o call_v for_o circumcision_n but_o to_o use_v and_o enjoy_v baptism_n in_o the_o stead_n thereof_o as_o former_o you_o and_o your_o child_n do_v circumcision_n for_o the_o apostle_n hint_n not_o the_o least_o difference_n about_o the_o subject_n thereof_o even_o as_o christ_n himself_o circumcise_v the_o eight_o day_n be_v after_o baptize_v to_o signify_v a_o end_n now_o about_o to_o be_v put_v to_o circumcision_n this_o i_o ingenuous_o think_v to_o be_v the_o naked_a scope_n and_o plain_a argumentation_n and_o method_n of_o the_o apostle_n here_o in_o this_o 2_o of_o colos_n which_o second_o more_o appear_v to_o we_o by_o these_o two_o argument_n 1_o from_o the_o inconvenience_n against_o the_o apostle_n dispute_v if_o baptism_n do_v not_o so_o come_v in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n for_o first_o if_o we_o have_v not_o baptism_n in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n to_o we_o believer_n and_o our_o infant_n we_o be_v not_o so_o complete_a as_o the_o apostle_n affirm_v as_o the_o jew_n by_o christ_n second_o if_o baptism_n do_v not_o come_v in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n how_o do_v the_o apostle_n call_v off_o the_o colossian_n from_o circumcision_n by_o the_o consideration_n of_o their_o baptism_n how_o do_v he_o true_o imply_v that_o as_o the_o first_o sacrament_n that_o believe_a abraham_n and_o his_o child_n receive_v be_v circumcision_n so_o the_o first_o the_o believe_a colossian_n and_o their_o child_n receive_v be_v baptism_n no_o other_o seal_n intervening_a how_o be_v the_o colossian_n say_v to_o be_v inward_o circumcise_v and_o outward_o and_o inward_o baptize_v in_o the_o same_o christ_n who_o in_o himself_o put_v down_o the_o one_o by_o take_v up_o the_o other_o 2_o from_o the_o analogy_n and_o agreement_n between_o both_o namely_o circumcision_n and_o baptism_n which_o the_o apostle_n hint_n in_o this_o 2._o of_o colos_n first_o the_o apostle_n intimate_v that_o as_o put_v off_o the_o body_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v a_o phrase_n to_o signify_v natural_a death_n 2_o cor._n 5._o and_o so_o be_v here_o a_o allusion_n to_o signify_v spiritual_a death_n to_o sin_n be_v the_o signification_n of_o circumcision_n colos_n 2.11_o so_o spiritual_a bury_n which_o argue_v death_n be_v the_o signification_n of_o baptism_n second_o that_o as_o neither_o of_o these_o be_v assure_v to_o any_o but_o as_o have_v christ_n seal_v to_o they_o so_o as_o circumcision_n seal_v a_o implantation_n into_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n that_o he_o put_v off_o the_o body_n natural_o in_o the_o grave_n so_o the_o circumcise_a put_v off_o the_o body_n of_o sin_n spiritual_o v._n 11._o even_o so_o baptism_n signify_v and_o seal_v our_o implantation_n into_o the_o burial_n of_o christ_n v._o 12._o as_o be_v more_o full_o express_v rom._n 6.3_o 4_o 5._o 3_o that_o as_o the_o way_n to_o kill_v sin_n and_o so_o to_o live_v be_v by_o circumcision_n into_o christ_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n colos_n 2.11_o insomuch_o that_o he_o that_o shall_v wilful_o neglect_v outward_a circumcision_n for_o himself_o or_o his_o child_n that_o may_v have_v it_o shall_v be_v cut_v off_o gen._n 17._o so_o baptise_v into_o christ_n be_v the_o way_n to_o bury_v sin_n and_o so_o to_o live_v v._o 12._o of_o this_o 2_o colos_n insomuch_o that_o he_o that_o shall_v wilful_o neglect_v baptism_n with_o water_n the_o seal_n of_o regeneration_n who_o may_v have_v it_o shall_v not_o enter_v heaven_n joh._n 3.5_o a_o soul_n may_v be_v save_v without_o the_o use_n of_o a_o seal_n in_o some_o case_n but_o in_o no_o case_n can_v be_v save_v in_o the_o contempt_n of_o a_o seal_n i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o some_o do_v understand_v this_o joh._n 3.5_o of_o the_o spirit_n only_o compare_v to_o water_n but_o who_o do_v not_o know_v that_o as_o bullinger_n say_v omnes_fw-la penè_fw-la de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la interpretantur_fw-la all_o almost_o interpret_v it_o of_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n bullinger_n himself_o consent_v with_o they_o only_o he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o spirit_n to_o be_v transfer_v to_o the_o sign_n and_o sure_a while_n christ_n be_v instruct_v nicodemus_n of_o regeneration_n he_o will_v not_o be_v silent_a touch_v the_o seal_n of_o it_o baptism_n nor_o can_v we_o so_o well_o parallel_v this_o phrase_n with_o matth._n 3._o baptise_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o with_o fire_n where_o only_o the_o spirit_n must_v be_v mean_v because_o there_o be_v no_o other_o baptism_n of_o fire_n but_o there_o be_v a_o baptism_n with_o water_n beside_o baptism_n with_o the_o spirit_n and_o therefore_o water_n must_v signify_v baptism_n for_o it_o be_v harsh_a to_o run_v to_o a_o metaphor_n without_o need_n and_o to_o understand_v by_o water_n the_o spirit_n which_o in_o relation_n to_o the_o efficacy_n of_o baptism_n be_v usual_o call_v fire_n thus_o we_o have_v show_v out_o of_o this_o colos_n 2._o from_o the_o scope_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o analogy_n of_o the_o two_o sacrament_n and_o the_o inconvenience_n of_o the_o contrary_a that_o baptism_n succeed_v in_o the_o room_n and_o to_o be_v use_v instead_o of_o circumcision_n now_o let_v the_o ingenuous_a reader_n ponder_v and_o see_v whether_o there_o be_v not_o more_o in_o this_o text_n than_o mr._n tomb_n will_v acknowledge_v to_o that_o passage_n of_o mr._n t._n that_o col._n 2.11_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o any_o circumcision_n but_o of_o christ_n circumcision_n meaning_n i_o suppose_v the_o circumcision_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o own_o person_n for_o else_o all_o circumcision_n and_o baptism_n too_o be_v christ_n both_o in_o regard_n of_o institution_n sign_n and_o make_v effectual_a we_o have_v answer_v already_o in_o the_o analyse_a of_o the_o place_n the_o sum_n whereof_o be_v that_o not_o only_a christ_n circumcision_n be_v impute_v to_o they_o but_o the_o virtue_n of_o circumcision_n be_v inherent_a in_o their_o heart_n by_o express_a word_n of_o the_o apostle_n colos_n 2.11_o circumcise_a with_o the_o circumcision_n make_v without_o hand_n in_o put_v off_o the_o body_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o flesh_n to_o that_o other_o passage_n that_o the_o text_n colos_n 2.11_o 12._o do_v not_o say_v we_o be_v circumcise_v because_o we_o be_v baptize_v we_o answer_v and_o add_v to_o our_o former_a intimation_n that_o the_o apostle_n clear_o labour_v to_o satisfy_v the_o colossian_n from_o seek_v to_o be_v circumcise_v because_o they_o be_v inward_o eircumcise_v and_o inward_o circumcise_v because_o inward_o baptize_v according_a to_o the_o outward_a seal_n of_o baptism_n or_o else_o he_o have_v not_o mention_v baptism_n upon_o any_o just_a ground_n or_o pertinent_a cause_n to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n that_o i_o can_v conceive_v he_o tell_v they_o they_o have_v no_o need_n of_o circumcision_n which_o be_v abolish_v and_o have_v the_o effect_n of_o it_o seal_v by_o and_o convey_v through_o or_o with_o outward_a baptism_n which_o they_o have_v receive_v according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o call_v man_n to_o be_v saint_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o some_o thing_n say_v mr._n t._n baptism_n do_v not_o succeed_v in_o the_o place_n of_o circumcision_n in_o respect_n of_o signification_n for_o first_o circumcision_n do_v signify_v christ_n to_o come_v of_o isaac_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n gen._n 17.10_o 21._o but_o baptism_n do_v not_o signify_v this_o but_o point_n at_o the_o incarnation_n death_n and_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n answ_n though_o we_o have_v answer_v to_o this_o afore_o animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la on_o exercitat_fw-la p._n 4._o yet_o we_o add_v first_o as_o circumcision_n do_v no_o more_o signify_v christ_n to_o come_v of_o isaac_n for_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v in_o the_o analogy_n or_o form_n of_o institution_n or_o administration_n then_o of_o abraham_n so_o baptism_n have_v in_o it_o as_o well_o to_o signify_v the_o true_a christ_n to_o come_v of_o isaac_n as_o circumcision_n second_o that_o ver_fw-la 10._o of_o gen._n 17._o have_v nothing_o in_o it_o but_o what_o be_v speak_v in_o common_a to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n indefinite_o that_o v._o 21._o be_v not_o the_o institution_n or_o form_n of_o administration_n or_o any_o thing_n to_o
signify_v or_o imply_v baptism_n so_o the_o scripture_n so_o irenaeus_n and_o the_o father_n mean_v by_o bornagain_a new_a bear_v or_o regenerate_v though_o mr._n t._n deny_v it_o scripture_n the_o first_o scripture_n be_v in_o joh._n 3.5_o except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n where_o the_o spirit_n signify_v the_o inward_a work_n accompany_v or_o follow_v where_o god_n convert_v the_o outward_a sign_n seal_n and_o conveyance_n of_o baptism_n as_o we_o have_v before_o discuss_v this_o place_n where_o we_o have_v give_v you_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o orthodox_n author_n and_o some_o reason_n that_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n be_v here_o understand_v we_o now_o add_v first_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n must_v be_v here_o mean_v because_o of_o the_o order_n water_n be_v put_v first_o the_o spirit_n next_o now_o where_o a_o metaphorical_a epithet_n or_o word_n be_v put_v to_o set_v forth_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o spirit_n the_o spirit_n be_v put_v first_o and_o the_o metaphorical_a term_n or_o word_n after_o matth._n 3._o baptise_a with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o fire_n that_o be_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v like_o fire_n second_o christ_n be_v speak_v to_o nicodemus_n one_o of_o the_o pharisee_n who_o do_v put_v much_o in_o outward_a legal_a and_o ceremonious_a wash_n mark_v 7.1_o 2_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o doubtless_o christ_n will_v apply_v his_o speech_n suitable_a to_o the_o condition_n of_o nicodemus_n to_o take_v he_o off_o that_o wash_n by_o propound_v to_o he_o the_o gospel_n wash_v of_o baptism_n already_o begin_v by_o john_n baptist_n on_o which_o usual_o follow_v a_o inward_a effectual_a work_n of_o wash_v by_o the_o spirit_n both_o these_o reason_n be_v hint_v by_o beza_n who_o by_o all_o mean_n will_v rather_o have_v a_o external_a wash_n here_o mean_v beside_o the_o inward_a of_o the_o spirit_n and_o prevent_v a_o objection_n that_o grace_n be_v not_o here_o tie_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n the_o peculiar_a sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n say_v he_o no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n joh._n 6.53_o beside_o say_v he_o there_o be_v mention_v after_o of_o the_o spirit_n without_o water_n three_o regeneration_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o outward_a and_o more_o common_a mean_n of_o preach_v the_o word_n 1_o pet._n 1.23_o why_o not_o therefore_o to_o baptism_n the_o peculiar_a sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n and_o so_o nicodemus_n have_v here_o for_o the_o business_n in_o hand_n which_o be_v his_o conversion_n all_o three_o mean_n complete_o represent_v to_o he_o christ_n word_n baptism_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n we_o listen_v not_o to_o abound_v in_o proof_n of_o a_o thing_n so_o plain_a and_o common_o receive_v if_o one_o or_o two_o think_v otherwise_o it_o be_v not_o of_o weight_n to_o say_v so_o without_o proof_n nor_o do_v i_o know_v any_o reason_n why_o any_o shall_v dissent_v unless_o for_o a_o dream_n of_o tie_v grace_n to_o sacrament_n which_o beza_n and_o other_o excellent_o take_v off_o or_o for_o fear_n of_o man_n private_a interest_n in_o a_o argument_n which_o be_v not_o considerable_a the_o second_o scripture_n be_v tit._n 3.5_o according_a to_o his_o mercy_n he_o save_v we_o by_o the_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n and_o renew_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n where_o wash_v according_a to_o divers_a learned_a orthodox_n author_n signify_v or_o imply_v baptism_n the_o reason_n that_o evince_v our_o consent_n be_v 1._o that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o wash_v signify_v not_o so_o much_o the_o act_n of_o bare_a wash_n as_o the_o place_n where_o the_o water_n be_v and_o the_o action_n be_v do_v for_o it_o signify_v a_o bath_n or_o laver_v of_o water_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v so_o fit_o apply_v to_o the_o inward_a wash_n of_o the_o spirit_n as_o to_o outward_a baptism_n 2_o the_o spiritual_a work_n of_o the_o spirit_n follow_v in_o the_o next_o clause_n the_o make_n of_o we_o new_a by_o the_o spirit_n 3_o it_o be_v usual_a with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o call_v the_o whole_a work_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o outward_a sign_n of_o baptism_n gal._n 3.27_o col._n 2.12_o even_o as_o circumcision_n be_v call_v the_o covenant_n gen._n 17._o though_o but_o the_o sign_n or_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n thus_o of_o the_o scripture_n that_o by_o the_o word_n bear_v again_o new_o bear_v or_o the_o like_a be_v signify_v or_o employ_v baptism_n suitable_o to_o scripture_n second_o irenaeus_n take_v his_o own_o word_n renascuntur_fw-la that_o be_v bear_v again_o or_o new_o bear_v to_o signify_v baptism_n compare_v that_o place_n of_o irenaeus_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 18._o where_n speak_v of_o the_o corruption_n by_o heretic_n touch_v redemption_n and_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n he_o have_v these_o word_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o chapter_n this_o kind_n that_o be_v of_o sect_n be_v send_v by_o satan_n for_o the_o deny_v of_o the_o baptism_n of_o regeneration_n or_o new_a birth_n towards_o or_o according_a to_o god_n and_o for_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o whole_a faith_n this_o place_n clear_v the_o thing_n and_o mr._n t._n his_o exception_n which_o be_v 1_o possible_o this_o may_v not_o be_v irenaeus_n his_o word_n 2_o that_o irenaeus_n be_v corrupt_v by_o the_o latin_a translation_n we_o want_v the_o greek_a copy_n to_o which_o we_o answer_v that_o this_o quotation_n out_o of_o the_o first_o book_n and_o 18._o chap._n of_o irenaeus_n take_v away_o both_o objection_n for_o mr._n t._n his_o rivet_n confess_v that_o the_o first_o 27._o chapter_n of_o the_o first_o book_n of_o irenaeus_n be_v insert_v in_o epiphanius_n his_o panarium_n which_o we_o have_v in_o greek_a and_o so_o much_o of_o irenaeus_n entire_o be_v to_o be_v have_v in_o greek_a in_o irenaeus_n his_o work_n and_o according_o epiphanius_n say_v that_o that_o circumcision_n continue_v serve_v to_o the_o time_n till_o the_o great_a circumcision_n come_v which_o be_v the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n so_o epiphan_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 28._o we_o have_v not_o time_n to_o seek_v more_o though_o he_o speak_v often_o of_o baptism_n sometime_o call_v it_o the_o great_a circumcision_n sometime_o only_o the_o laver_n etc._n etc._n but_o mr._n t._n object_n 4._o mr._n t._n examen_fw-la sect._n 4._o that_o voss_n thes_n theolog._n de_fw-fr paedobapt_n intimate_v that_o the_o proper_a acception_n of_o renascuntur_fw-la that_o be_v bear_v again_o or_o newborn_a be_v to_o signify_v sanctification_n we_o answer_v vossius_fw-la do_v not_o speak_v so_o much_o for_o mr._n t._n but_o against_o he_o in_o this_o point_n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la as_o we_o conceive_v whether_o we_o conceive_v aright_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n vossius_fw-la his_o word_n be_v these_o we_o can_v prove_v by_o apparent_a testimony_n of_o they_o that_o live_v before_o the_o pelagian_a heresy_n that_o infant_n be_v baptize_v such_o a_o testimony_n be_v irenaeus_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 39_o where_o he_o 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t._n well_o know_v subordinate_a thing_n be_v not_o contrary_a christ_n regenerate_v therefore_o do_v he_o not_o do_v it_o by_o his_o ordinance_n word_n baptism_n &_o c_o we_o have_v hear_v afore_o that_o though_o christ_n be_v the_o author_n of_o our_o salvation_n yet_o it_o be_v say_v we_o be_v bear_v again_o by_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n and_o that_o for_o the_o conjunction_n of_o the_o sign_n and_o thing_n signify_v the_o thing_n signify_v be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o sign_n we_o add_v ephes_n 5.26.1_o pet._n 1.23_o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o we_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n by_o the_o word_n and_o we_o be_v bear_v again_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o we_o know_v christ_n by_o his_o spirit_n be_v the_o author_n of_o these_o 3_o other_o of_o the_o approve_a ancient_n as_o commentator_n on_o irenaeus_n call_v baptism_n by_o the_o name_n of_o regeneration_n nazianzen_n call_v baptism_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n or_o of_o the_o new-birth_n nazianz._n orat._n 402._o in_o sanct._n bapt._n augustine_n say_v as_o by_o the_o first_o man_n man_n be_v bear_v in_o sin_n and_o death_n so_o by_o christ_n renascuntur_fw-la they_o be_v bear_v again_o in_o or_o into_o righteousness_n and_o eternal_a life_n in_o or_o through_o baptism_n aug._n lib._n de_fw-fr bapt._n &_o hab_o &_o cons_n ambrose_n say_v god_n the_o omnipotent_a father_n who_o have_v regenerate_v thou_o of_o water_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n ambros_n de_fw-fr sacram._n hieronimus_fw-la the_o bloody_a body_n of_o infant_n be_v wash_v as_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v bear_v so_o the_o spiritual_a generation_n stand_v in_o need_n of_o the_o save_a laver_n hieron_n lib._n 4._o ezek._n ca._n 16._o more_o may_v be_v allege_v but_o these_o enough_o to_o clear_v the_o business_n in_o hand_n that_o irenaeus_n mean_v by_o be_v bornagain_a or_o regenerate_v baptism_n but_o mr._n t._n object_n 7._o mr._n t._n examen_fw-la sect._n 4._o p._n 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author_n we_o will_v urge_v from_o this_o first_o age_n tertullian_n tertullian_n or_o first_o hundred_o year_n or_o century_n next_o follow_v the_o apostle_n time_n be_v tertullian_n who_o helvicus_n put_v in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o age_n afore_o say_v namely_o in_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 195._o which_o be_v as_o about_o the_o 95_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o john_n the_o evangelist_n but_o the_o same_o helvicus_n say_v this_o of_o he_o put_v in_o that_o year_n out_o of_o eusebius_n and_o hieron_n that_o he_o put_v forth_o his_o book_n of_o prescription_n and_o that_o he_o be_v the_o three_o latin_a writer_n and_o bucholcerus_n mention_n he_o as_o famous_a about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 208_o that_o be_v 108._o after_o st._n john_n that_o be_v but_o about_o thirteen_o year_n after_o the_o time_n set_v down_o by_o helvicus_n for_o he_o say_v that_o about_o that_o time_n catalogo_fw-la hieron_n in_o catalogo_fw-la cyprian_n as_o hieron_n testify_v do_v 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we_o answer_v first_o we_o have_v but_o now_o in_o that_o answer_v for_o augustine_n by_o augustine_n 2_o that_o the_o papist_n put_v too_o much_o of_o justification_n in_o faith_n as_o it_o be_v absolute_o consider_v as_o a_o quality_n may_v not_o we_o therefore_o hold_v justification_n by_o faith_n relative_o consider_v as_o take_v in_o the_o object_n christ_n so_o the_o over_o zeal_n of_o those_o father_n touch_v the_o necessity_n of_o infant-baptisme_n must_v not_o beat_v we_o off_o from_o the_o mediocrity_n of_o truth_n touch_v it_o 3_o for_o augustine_n let_v we_o go_v no_o further_o than_o mr_n t._n his_o quotation_n of_o he_o to_o clear_v he_o tom._n 2._o ep._n 28._o that_o infant_n can_v be_v save_v but_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o lord_n christ_n which_o he_o have_v commend_v to_o we_o in_o his_o sacrament_n he_o say_v there_o they_o be_v save_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o lord_n christ._n and_o say_v only_a christ_n commend_v his_o grace_n to_o we_o in_o the_o 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see_v mr_n t._n confess_v present_o follow_v that_o ambrose_n and_o augustin_n in_o his_o 4_o book_n the_o baptism_n contra_fw-la donatistas_n c._n 22._o yield_v that_o either_o martyrdom_n or_o the_o desire_n of_o baptism_n may_v supply_v the_o defect_n of_o baptism_n we_o can_v add_v several_a other_o expression_n of_o augustine_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n 663._o tom._n 5.713_o edit_fw-la bas_n contra_fw-la donat._n l._n 5._o to._n 7.452_o edit_fw-la bas_n ibid._n 101._o ibid._n 663._o as_o that_o death_n sometime_o supply_v the_o place_n of_o baptism_n that_o suffer_v faith_n conversion_n of_o the_o heart_n supply_v the_o room_n of_o baptism_n that_o the_o baptism_n of_o blood_n be_v great_a than_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o river_n that_o little_a one_o not_o baptize_v have_v a_o most_o easy_a condemnation_n last_o whatever_o the_o rigidness_n of_o augustin_n and_o ambrose_n be_v in_o some_o passage_n touch_v infant-baptism_n the_o grand_a point_n in_o hand_n be_v whether_o 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transcend_v to_o this_o opinion_n that_o the_o child_n conceive_v and_o be_v in_o the_o mother_n at_o her_o baptism_n be_v some_o how_o baptize_v in_o the_o mother_n this_o appear_v partly_o from_o augustine_n dispute_v the_o contrary_n basil_n contrary_n august_n lib._n 6_o contra_fw-la julian._n col._n 11_o 19_o edit_n basil_n and_o it_o be_v not_o my_o note_n only_o but_o the_o note_n of_o some_o other_o also_o and_o partly_o from_o one_o clause_n in_o a_o decree_n of_o the_o neoâ—asarien_n synod_n hold_v anno._n 313._o after_o christ_n as_o some_o interpret_v it_o zanar_n it_o balsam_n et_fw-fr zanar_n wherein_o they_o decree_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n that_o be_v the_o woman_n great_a with_o child_n may_v be_v baptize_v when_o she_o please_v for_o in_o this_o she_o that_o be_v about_o to_o bring_v forth_o impart_v nothing_o to_o the_o child_n that_o be_v to_o be_v bear_v now_o if_o this_o be_v so_o exit_fw-la malis_fw-la 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will_v be_v mistake_v thus_o of_o mr_n t._n his_o first_o particular_a in_o his_o minor_a that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o some_o age_n after_o the_o first_o of_o the_o apostle_n but_o he_o can_v tell_v when_o as_o we_o have_v prove_v to_o his_o second_o particular_a of_o jewish_a imitation_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la we_o have_v speak_v already_o in_o answer_n to_o the_o major_a animadver_n animadver_n and_o we_o have_v show_v that_o the_o pious_a learned_a ancient_n have_v other_o scripture_n reason_n then_o only_a circumcision_n or_o their_o greediness_n to_o increase_v the_o number_n of_o christian_n who_o so_o oft_o give_v warning_n to_o take_v heed_n to_o who_o they_o give_v that_o sacred_a thing_n baptism_n 18._o baptism_n caeterum_fw-la baptismum_fw-la non_fw-la temere_fw-la credendumesse_n sciunt_fw-la quorum_fw-la officium_fw-la est_fw-la nolite_fw-la dare_v sanctum_fw-la canibus_fw-la ne_fw-la participes_fw-la a_o liena_fw-la delicta_fw-la etc._n etc._n textul_n lib._n de_fw-fr baptis_fw-la cap._n 18._o or_o mr_n t._n his_o perhaps_o a_o fine_a word_n for_o a_o argument_n and_o in_o divine_a thing_n heathenish_a lustration_n of_o little_a one_o when_o justin_n martyr_n tertullian_n etc._n etc._n apologize_v against_o heathenism_n for_o christianity_n and_o many_o of_o our_o quote_v author_n seal_v their_o opposition_n against_o heathenism_n with_o their_o blood_n and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o true_a jewish_a imitation_n of_o circumcision_n in_o infant-baptisme_n it_o be_v in_o fidus_n that_o think_v child_n may_v not_o be_v baptize_v till_o the_o eight_o day_n and_o not_o in_o cyprian_n epistle_n that_o confute_v he_o nor_o do_v they_o more_o intimate_v the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o salvation_n then_o christ_n himself_o john_n 3.5_o except_o a_o man_n he_o bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n &c._n &c._n which_o be_v a_o place_n they_o oft_o quote_v or_o the_o apostle_n that_o say_v we_o 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hic_fw-la ergo_fw-la scelestissimi_fw-la illi_fw-la etc._n etc._n here_o those_o most_o graceless_a follow_v provoke_v question_n so_o that_o they_o say_v baptism_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o who_o faith_n be_v sufficient_a etc._n etc._n to_o mr_n t._n 17._o exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o his_o three_o particular_a in_o his_o minor_n that_o infant-baptisme_n be_v not_o universal_o practise_v for_o constantine_n be_v not_o baptize_v while_o a_o infant_n though_o his_o mother_n helena_n be_v a_o christian_a nor_o augustine_n though_o his_o mother_n monica_n be_v a_o christian_a etc._n etc._n we_o answer_v 1_o no_o wonder_n if_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o universal_o practise_v in_o all_o age_n animadver_n animadver_n when_o so_o many_o sect_n under_o one_o notion_n or_o another_o more_o or_o less_o stick_v at_o it_o first_o arrian_n in_o one_o age_n after_o that_o the_o pelagian_o in_o another_o after_o they_o arminius_n then_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o luther_n time_n then_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o ainsworths_n time_n and_o now_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o our_o time_n shall_v these_o man_n make_v a_o practice_n and_o then_o make_v of_o it_o a_o argument_n for_o themselves_o who_o will_v be_v sway_v with_o such_o a_o argument_n as_o that_o they_o shall_v make_v out_o their_o practice_n from_o a_o argument_n and_o not_o make_v a_o argument_n of_o their_o practice_n 2_o mr_n t._n do_v not_o here_o so_o much_o as_o say_v that_o helena_n be_v a_o christian_a at_o constantine_n birth_n or_o that_o monica_n be_v a_o christian_a at_o augustine_n birth_n which_o to_o have_v clear_v be_v necessary_a to_o the_o argument_n 3_o who_o do_v not_o know_v that_o history_n make_v mention_n of_o helena_n as_o of_o a_o very_a weak_a and_o wonderful_a i_o have_v almost_o say_v superstitious_a christian_n trans_fw-la socrat._v schol_a ecles_n hist_o lib._n 1._o chap._n 13._o according_a to_o the_o english_a trans_fw-la in_o dig_v for_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n at_o jerusalem_n and_o find_v three_o to_o wit_v those_o two_o also_o on_o which_o the_o thief_n be_v crucify_v on_o and_o be_v perplex_v which_o be_v christ_n a_o miracle_n of_o cure_v a_o die_a woman_n with_o that_o which_o be_v christ_n resolve_v which_o be_v his_o and_o so_o she_o lock_v up_o some_o of_o it_o in_o a_o silver_n chest_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v set_v up_o upon_o a_o pillar_n in_o the_o market_n place_n at_o constantinople_n so_o call_v of_o constantine_n for_o the_o preservation_n of_o that_o city_n as_o also_o that_o she_o find_v the_o nail_n that_o fasten_v christ_n to_o the_o cross_n she_o send_v they_o to_o her_o son_n constantine_n the_o emperor_n whereof_o he_o cause_v bit_n for_o bridle_n helmet_n and_o head-piece_n to_o be_v make_v which_o he_o wear_v in_o battle_n so_o socrate_n eccles_n you_o see_v how_o vain_a a_o story_n here_o be_v and_o that_o all_o the_o christianity_n by_o this_o appear_v in_o helena_n relate_v to_o the_o time_n of_o her_o son_n constantine_n be_v emperor_n and_o therefore_o what_o mr_n t._n can_v make_v of_o it_o to_o his_o purpose_n i_o know_v not_o 4._o at_o this_o time_n of_o constantine_n birth_n be_v great_a persecution_n rise_v now_o almost_o towards_o the_o high_a it_o cost_v after_o that_o constantine_n many_o a_o battle_n before_o he_o can_v quiet_a thing_n and_o therefore_o helena_n the_o empress_n the_o wife_n of_o constantius_n the_o emperor_n religion_n then_o dare_v little_a to_o peep_v forth_o more_o than_o in_o notorious_a suffering_n for_o it_o may_v well_o be_v afraid_a if_o she_o be_v then_o a_o christian_a to_o do_v such_o a_o act_n as_o to_o carry_v her_o son_n to_o baptism_n as_o minister_n may_v be_v afraid_a to_o do_v it_o constantius_n the_o father_n not_o be_v a_o christian_n though_o political_o moderate_a 5._o for_o augustine_n 1._o it_o be_v clear_a out_o of_o aug._n confession_n the_o first_o book_n and_o 11._o chap._n that_o his_o father_n be_v not_o a_o believer_n at_o his_o birth_n nor_o when_o he_o be_v grow_v up_o to_o be_v a_o little_a boy_n of_o some_o understanding_n for_o he_o say_v there_o in_o the_o description_n of_o himself_o while_o he_o be_v pver_fw-la a_o little_a boy_n or_o lad_n ita_fw-la jam_fw-la credebam_fw-la et_fw-la illa_fw-la et_fw-la omnis_fw-la domus_fw-la nisi_fw-la pater_fw-la solus_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o i_o and_o my_o mother_n and_o all_o the_o family_n do_v now_o believe_v except_o my_o father_n only_o who_o notwithstanding_o do_v not_o control_v my_o mother_n power_n over_o i_o whereby_o i_o shall_v not_o believe_v in_o christ_n for_o she_o rather_o endeavour_v that_o thou_o o_o my_o god_n shall_v be_v my_o father_n rather_o than_o he_o so_o augustine_n now_o the_o want_n of_o the_o father_n concurrence_n in_o carry_v a_o child_n to_o baptism_n in_o those_o difficult_a time_n may_v be_v some_o delay_n of_o that_o sacrament_n for_o second_o we_o say_v persecution_n be_v walk_v among_o christian_n about_o that_o time_n for_o augustine_n in_o his_o three_o book_n chap._n 25._o contra_fw-la literas_fw-la petiliani_fw-la say_v that_o after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o great_a tyrant_n he_o go_v into_o africa_n intimate_v also_o that_o his_o mother_n live_v a_o very_a private_a life_n his_o father_n be_v then_o dead_a three_o augustine_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o confession_n and_o 11._o chap._n that_o cum_fw-la pver_fw-la 14._o pver_fw-la one_o be_v say_v to_o begin_v to_o be_v a_o pver_fw-la from_o 〈◊〉_d 4_o year_n old_a &_o so_o upward_o to_o 14._o essem_fw-la et_fw-la quodam_fw-la die_fw-la pressus_fw-la stomachi_fw-la dolore_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o i_o be_v a_o little_a boy_n or_o lad_n be_v a_o certain_a day_n oppress_v in_o my_o stomach_n and_o sick_a even_o to_o death_n thou_o o_o god_n see_v because_o thou_o be_v my_o keeper_n with_o what_o motion_n of_o mind_n and_o with_o what_o faith_n i_o earnest_o desire_v from_o the_o piety_n of_o my_o mother_n and_o of_o thy_o church_n
episcopos_fw-la papale_n coetum_fw-la sceleratorum_fw-la &_o ecclesiam_fw-la pontificiam_fw-la coetum_fw-la infernorum_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la propositione_n non_fw-la multum_fw-la à _fw-la vero_fw-la aberraverunt_fw-la matrimonia_fw-la damnabant_fw-la promiscuos_fw-la concubitus_fw-la cosquenefarios_fw-la sanctos_fw-la ducebant_fw-la hic_fw-la est_fw-la furor_fw-la satanicus_n corporum_fw-la resurrectionem_fw-la negant_fw-la mortuos_fw-la vivorum_fw-la beneficiis_fw-la nonâ—_n juvari_fw-la haec_fw-la propositio_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la haeretica_fw-la animas_fw-la defunctorum_fw-la hominum_fw-la transire_fw-la per_fw-la diversa_fw-la corpora_fw-la etiam_fw-la animalium_fw-la &_o serpentum_fw-la si_fw-la malè_fw-la vixerint_fw-la sin_n benè_fw-la in_fw-la principis_fw-la aut_fw-la alterìus_fw-la illustris_fw-la personae_fw-la corpus_fw-la carnem_fw-la comedi_fw-la prohibent_fw-la tribuitur_fw-la illis_fw-la à _fw-la quibusdam_fw-la quòd_fw-la evangelion_n urina_fw-la 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