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A69592 An apologie concerning perfection being a fundamentall answer and reply upon Esaiah Stiefel his exposition of four texts of the Holy Scripture written in the year 1622 ... / by Jacob Behme, also called Teutonicus philosophus ; Englished by John Sparrow.; Vom Irrthum der Secten Esaiae Stiefels und Ezechiel Meths. English Böhme, Jakob, 1575-1624.; Sparrow, John, 1615-1665? 1661 (1661) Wing B3415; ESTC R14771 119,599 158

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be distinguished from other People therefore God sheweth us in this Image that we stand with the Mouth trimmed and adorned before him but the Spirit is a false or wicked Man As this Authour saith We should call our selves Holy and deny the Earthly Name and firmly beleeve we are NO Sinners but God in Christ born Totally Holy 15. And when this seeming Holy World existeth then is the knowledge or acknowledgement of Sinne totally Dead and although God should blame us yet would the flattering Hypocrite Murmure against God and say he did him wrong and then is the enmity against God generated and Sinne totally blind 16. No Man would know more of Sinne and though likely we were totally sinfull before God yet then is the time of which Christ said Dost thou suppose that when the Sonne of Man shall COME that he shall find FAITH on the Earth there would be NO Faith in Power but only meer Faith of a History so that we will not beleeve if any should charge us as guilty of Sinne thus there would be a fine secure negligent or carelesse SION like Life 17. Whatsoever we did then it were all Good there would be accounted no Sinne in the world none would be said to have sinned Christ must do all and though many were very Theeves yet no MAGISTRACY or Government would be usefull for CHRIST ruleth all in all 18. Where there is no Sinne there is also no punishment then also men would need no Superiour to Judge for every one judgeth himselfe and whatsoever he doth that doth God through him which indeed would run contrary to the Angellicall Government and against the Government of the Inward and Outward Nature 19. I admonish all Readers of His writings very sincerely from a true heart as a brother for our eternall salvations sake diligently and well to ponder and consider what is hidden under this giving forth the bring Holy and how the Devill thinketh to take us with a New 〈◊〉 seeing he perceiveth that his smoak-hole shall be manifested 20. Therefore will he now drive us wholly forth from the acknowledgement of Sinner that we should be wholly secure or negligent and understand no Sinne more and supposeth that we in our present evill life which we have shall finely learn to cover our selves With Christs Purple Mantle and introduce us totally into security and carelesness and so keep us from the ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of Sinnes and entrap or take US all 21. But dear Brethren observe and convert or turn away from security and acknowledge your selves to be the lost and returning Sonne to the Father and say continually you have shamefully spent your inheritance and that the Father hath received you again for his Sonne he hath done it of Grace and Favour 22. Be not proud again say not to the Father divide the inheritance between us continue only in humility under the servitude of a Sonne as CHRIST hath set before us in his Similitudes or Parables if God will effect any thing New with us he will well manifest it with power we suppose words without demonstration are too little in so high a matter whereon salvation and blessednesse depends 23. But therewith I set before the Reader the true ground what Adam and Christ are in ONE Person and which Man is without Sinne therefore Mark this which followeth 24. The Kingly Prophet of God David Was a man after Gods own Heart as the Scripture testifieth of him in whom was the Spirit of God and he prophesied of Christ but he said In Sinne was I born in Sinne did my Mother conceive me which also manifested it self in him so that he had neer the Spiritual Man also a sinfull Man IN him which was a Murtherour and an Adulterour as the like may be seen in the Patriarchs 25. But who will now say of David that he was not holy Seeing he was a Man after Gods Heart who also will say that his Murther and Adultery was without Sinne The Man that in David was a Prophet THAT was no Sinner but that which was a Murtherer was a Sinner and yet it was but one only MAN in one Person but in two Properties viz one Heavenly and one Earthly 26. The Spirit of God speaketh of things to COME and of CHRIST concerning the Heavenly Property and the fleshly desire into which the Devill introduced his desire speaketh out of the Earthly Property out of the Earthly cursed Life viz out of the Murther and Vnchastity 27. In ALL men lyeth the Heavenly Image which disappeared in Adam but it liveth in one and in another it is Vnlively That Heavenly Image viz the second Principle is that out of which CHRIST was conceived and born out of JESUS 28. For God is in all places but not Manifest in all things but if he manifesteth himself in the disappeared Substance then is Christ born who dwelleth in his Principle and the Earthly Man of the Earthly part in the Curse of God dwelleth in its own Principle in it self 29. The Spirit of Christ dwelleth in the inward Substance of the disappeared Image from the Divine worlds Substance that dyed in Adam and the Elementary Spirit dwelleth in the Four-Elementary Flesh 30. The Spirit of Christ hath Spiritual Flesh for it taketh the Spiritual Flesh which dyed in Adam on again for a Body and Maketh it living THAT is in its Flesh holy but the outward Spirit of the four Elements in the Earthly Flesh is longing after falshood and wickednesse and bringeth its Lust against the Inward Man for the Devil sifteth it 31. And that is it which the Scripture saith The Flesh lusteth against the Spirit understand against the inward Divine Spirit and the Spirit against the Flesh And God said to the Serpent in the Outward Flesh of Adam I will put Enmity between the Seed of the Woman and of the Serpent 32. The Inward Spirituall Flesh is Heavenly the Devill cannot possesse that for if the Soul forsake that and go out from it then is THAT vanished or disappeared and as a Nothing In the wicked it is as a Nothing 32. But when the wicked turneth himself to God and turneth the Will of the Soul to God then is Christ out of the disappeared Seed born a Man and is set before the Devill in the outward Flesh for a Crusher or Bruiser of the Serpent which hindreth and breaketh the Will of the evill Flesh so that Sinne is NOT committed 34. And THEN there is a constant Enmity Christ Governeth in his Heavenly Flesh through the outward and striketh the Outward Lust to the Ground then cometh the Anger of God in the Center of the Soul and will also have its fierce wrathfull Government and the Devill with the false or wicked Lust crouds himself thereinto 35. And the Elementary Spirit hungers constantly after its Mother the Elements and then the Devill bringeth the Lust aloft and wheeleth the desire about then the Hand
the Holy Trinity hath been hidden to all Creatures and yet is through the second moving of the Deity as a holy sweet Love-Sun become manifested 15. I must not say that in the Person CHRIST viz in the Man according to his humanity according to that part which he hath on him from us Men from our Body and Soul that is on to the Deity on to the Divine Substantiality or Heavenly Corporeity taken on to him That the Creature is ceased and taken up or that the Creature Soul and Body from us Men is unmeasurable 16. No for such a One is not our Eternall High Priest which I could never more see in the Form of Man for the Men when he went to Heaven said Ye shall SEE this JESUS come again as he is Ascended 17. Only the Deity in him and the Christ understand the divine property together with the Heavenly divine substantiality wherewith he saith John 3. 13. He was come from Heaven THIS is uncreaturely and yet IN every Man as an own Sun yet only in one point which shineth forth out of the fountain of this Sun indeed from no place or space but the place of this holy revelation or Manifestation is in ALL Men the Center of the Originall 18. This SUN is in all Men but this Sun is not revealed or manifested in all Men but only in the Desire to the Point which is CHRIST which point is JESUS out of JEHOVA 19. But concerning the Holy woman or wife which this Authour mentioneth which is holy and PERFECT wherein the Man CHRIST becometh generated needeth also a farre other Explanation 20. And though he sets down the Holy Christianity to be the woman or wife which I blame not yet a Man must not speak that concerning the outward Earthly Man for the Earthly Man is not Christs Spouse or Wife but the inward Spiritual which faded or disappeared in Adam the Heavenly which Christ as viz the Holy SUN vivifieth 21. But this Authours writing is altogether Contradictory and runnes counter against it selfe for here in this Point he writeth of this Spouse or Woman and Body thus which he NOT outwardly prepareth createth and maketh new but in the Inward Center and middle of the Heart from the beginning of the world instantly after the Fall in Grace Love and Mercy yes in the Faith espouseth betrotheth and uniteth to himself and prepareth it for his Eternall Rest In like manner also this holy Man CHRIST JESUS the Innocent Lamb of God yes the Triune highly praised Sonne of God God himself which was slain from the beginning of the world IN all Faithfull and Saints according to the Testimony of the Scripture 22. Before this Authour hath set down in another place that if CHRIST became manifest or revealed in Man then Nature falleth Totally away Now he sets it down that CHRIST in the Inward Center and middle of the Heart hath from the beginning of the world espoused and united himself with the Saints in the Faith which indeed were true if he did not speak it concerning the Man CHRIST but concerning the Promised CHRIST in the Covenant which first in Time fulfilled the Covenant 23. For Not CHRIST the Man who in the Time in the Limit of the Covenant manifested or revealed himselfe was slain in the Holy Patriarchs but the Children of Faith in whom the Covenant became manifested 24. CHRIST hath once given and offered up his holy Life in the sweet Love to his Father into his Anger which was manifested in the Humane Property and with the Love broken the Anger to pieces He hath not dyed in ALL the Saints from Adam to this time and suffered himself to be slain and put to death Only the Children of the Faith of the Covenant have suffered themselves to be put to death according to the MAN of SINNE that the word of Life in the Covenant in them might put on the new promised Life which would manifest it self in the Covenant with the future Sun of the New Life in the Spirit of the Covenant 25. So that when Christ would manifest himself in the Covenant in the Flesh he also in that Covenant which had manifested it selfe in them would be manifested in them with the divine Substantiality viz with Christs heavenly Flesh 26. For even after the Resurrection of Christ when he had assumed the Humanity and slain death it was not CHRIST that dyed any more in his Members in the Christians or was slain but Adam in Christs Death that Christs Spirit in the Soul and the holy Man might Live When Christ becometh born then should the Man of Sinne continually Dye till at last when the Outward body departeth it WHOLLY ceaseth 27. But if Christ the Lamb of God were become slain in the Old Patriarchs then the reconciliation was performed IN them and then it cometh not solely and onely from the Sonne of MARY 28. Abel was NOT the Lamb of God which was slain for Sinne Christ dyed not in Abel but in the BODY which he received from MARY 29. Abel and all the Martyrs dyed as to their own Bodies for the sake of the Covenant which opened it self in them they were slain and dyed as to their sinfull Adamicall Body and not as to the Holy Body which was shut up in the Covenant which Christ when he would manifest himself in the Covenant would manifest it to be an Eternall Life and holy Flesh in which he would dwell and be the power and Life thereof 30. When the Holy Scripture saith CHRIST was slain in the Saints then it understandeth then Members of the Body of CHRIST according to Christs humanity which HE the Christ assumed It understandeth not the Triune God that should suffer it selfe to be slain from the beginning of the world for doubtlesse God cannot dye That which dyeth is only the Body of Christs Members according to the humane Creature and not according to the Spirit of Christ 31. The Spirit of Christ hath therefore manifested it self in the Humanity and slain Death in his assumed Body that the Gates of Life in us should be opened for if I be murthered for the sake of Christs Name and the Testimony thereof then doth not Christ dye in me but Adam dyeth in Christs death and Christ in my dying becometh first rightly manifested 32. My dying is Christs Resurrection in ME for I dye away to the sinfull self-hood or Nothingnesse and live to the Resignation in the Spirit of Christ 33. Therefore this is a voyd and groundlesse thing that this Authour writeth that the Man Christ the Innocent Lamb of God God himself which from the beginning of the world according to the Testimony of the Scripture was slain in all the Saints and faithfull c. 34. The Triune God is not from the beginning of the world slain in his Saints the Scripture saith not so but the Faithfull Men were slain for Christs sake and NOT the Triune Christ IN them
both as to Light and Darknesse 51. And yet we are not so to think that a Spirit or Angell is it self the Out-breathing of the Eternall Birth or Geniture of the Holy Trinity in the Divine Voyce But it is the out-spoken Word as a Model and Image of the speaking Word a fitted Instrument of the Spirit of God through which the Spirit of God as by his fitted Instrument playeth or melodiseth and soundeth 52. So far as the Instrument remaineth standing in its fitted Order as with the Desire of the Fiat which standeth in all Angells as the Angells proper own wherewith the Will of the Angell may lift up it self into the Good viz into Gods Love or into the Anger and introduce it self into the Figure and Tang thereof then is the sound of the Word out of the Fathers Love and Anger out-breathed and become introduced into an Image in verbo Fiat in the Word Fiat 53. As is to be seen how some Prince-Angels give up themselves with the Desire into the Love and some as Lucifer into the Anger viz into the Desire of the Fiat and Created or Extracted a Will in the Desire of the Anger in the Fires Might to Live and to Rule according to the Fathers Anger Property and thus to domineer over all Principalities of Angels over the Love in the fierce wrathfull Fires Might whence followed upon him his thrusting out by the Word Fiat into the Darknesse of Gods Anger 54. Thus we can not say of the Creation of all things or Substances that the Eternall Substance of the Ternary or number Three hath thus formed it self into an Image of an Angell but in the Eternall Desire which hath Originated it selfe in the Longing delight of the Deity through the Moving of the Father of all things or Substances as an ETERNALL Nature and a Revelation or Manifestation of the Eternall hidden Nature 55. In that Eternall beginning-lesse Nature viz in the All-being All-substantiall working of the Great Mystery have the Angells and Souls of Men received their Originall in the Eternall Out-spoken Word in the Eternall Wisdome of God according to Love and Anger 56. For if they had Originated only in the holy voyce of God viz in the One only Love then they could not have attracted or framed in themselves any Will to the Anger or if the Love-Will of God in the Angels were fallen then it would have this understanding that God in the Creature had fallen and become a Devill which were abominable to be spoken 57. No Creaturely Spirit can subsist in the Creature without the Fire-world for even the Love of God would not be if his Anger or the Fire-world were not in him The Anger or the Fire of God is a cause of the Light and of the power strength and Omnipotency 58. But in the Love the Fire dyeth and transmuteth it self into the Kingdome of Joy for at the End Death originateth which is as a dying in the Fire out of which dying the Light as another source or quality originateth viz a Desire of Love which is called Gods Mercifullnesse or the Divine Kingdome of Joy the Life of Holinesse without source or pain goeth from the dying in the Fire sorth as a Glance of the Majesty a Glance of the Liberty 59. This dying Lucifer contemned he would Live and Domineer in the Fires Regiment in the Self-hood so he became also driven forth out of the Fire back into the Root of the Fire viz into the darknesse 60. Every Angell and Soul which will live in Gods Light and Power must DYE to the Self-hood of the Fires Dominion in the Desire and wholly immerse or cast himself with his own Propriety into Gods Will viz into the Divine Sound and dye to the own self Will in the Fire but bud or sprout forth in the Light of Love in the Resignation into Gods Sound or Word as a fruit of the Love of God that Gods will-will-spirit may rule and guide his Life 61. And that the holy Tincture of the Fire and Light may be the Glance of the shining of his Life out of which again Divine Will and Desire Originateth that the same Life may be able to live in the Power and vertue of the Wisdome of God to behold it self therein and frame or attract a Divine Will therein 62. Which Wisdome is the Angells Food out of which they generate to their Creatour Eternall Praise that Gods Joy play or-Melody in the Angelicall Voyce may be an Instrument of the Spirit of God all directed into the Harmony of the Divine Kingdome of Joy 63. For every Prince-Angell beareth the Name of the Great God every one according to his property as a peculiar Instrument directed into the Praise of God in the Divine Sound 64. In like manner we are not so to think of the Creation of Heaven and of the Earth that the Heaven and the World with its Substance or Matters are Created out of Gods holy Voyce or Word but IN the Voyce and through the Word 65. Not out of the Sound of the Divine property but in the word Fiat viz in the Impression of the Eternall Mystery of the Eternall Fire-and-Lights Desire and entered into a Substance according to the fires and Darknesses Property as also according to the Lights Desire viz according to the Free Longing delights Property as a Revelation or Manifestation of Evill and Good of Joy and also of pain and Torment 66. All which is undeniably before our Eyes and the whole Creation convinceth us thereof whereby men know that in ALL things there is Good and Evill for which things sake the Last judgment of God is appointed viz a Day of Separation wherein all shall again enter into its beginning 67. This visible World is a Similitude of the Eternall Mystery out of which Joy and Sorrow Light and Darknesse originateth through which Eternall Mystery the Spirit of the Ternary in the Trinity manifesteth or revealeth it selfe and introduceth it self into Three Principles 68. Viz First into the Dark Cold and Fire World viz into an Abysse of the Mystery And then Secondly into the divine Light World of the Kingdome of Joy And Thirdly with or by a Similitude of the Dark Fire and Light World viz with or by this outward visible and Elementary World 69. In which it generateth the Image of the Eternall World in Evill and Good as is to be seen in all living Creatures of this world as also in the Starres Elements Hearbs and Trees how all is contrary one o the other and yet the Birth or Geniture of all Life standeth in such a Contrary 70. Every Life standeth in Evill and Good viz in Poison and Oyle out of which the Life in the Fire burneth or shineth which ALL is a similitude of the Eternall Birth or Geniture of the Mystery of all Substances or of every thing also Men see the similitude of the Holy Trinity in every Life viz the Fire Light and proceeding Aire
himself into his Mystery viz into his Rest in the Grave 233. Concerning which David saith He should rest secure for the Lord was set before him in Christ in whose Protection he rested in Christ viz in the Limit or Mark of the Covenant in the Looking-Glasse of Christ which God set before him in the Covenant of the Circumcision and in the Sacrifices as if Christ were therein for he had Promised Christ therein till the fullfilling in the Flesh came 234. Therefore shall not this Authour perswade us That the Earthly Man in Sinne without the breaking of the outward Life doth wholly put on Christ inwardly and outwardly and that the sinfull outward Nature when Man entereth into Repentance doth wholly dye and Christ alone awake or arise and become generated inwardly and outwardly in Man 235. No! Christ is come to heal the Soar which Adam made when he instantly dyed to the Kingdome of Heaven in the Sinne-Bit viz to awaken or raise up the inward Man which disappeared in Adam and new generate it in him in his power and introduce the poore Soul again into a Divine Will and give it the Noble Jewell of the Holy Spirit again 236. And continually Crush or bruise the head of the Anger and falshood of the Old Serpent dwelling with its Will in the outward Flesh also continually slay the earthly Will till the earthly Adam dye altogether consume and enter into its Mystery in which God Created it to the Judgment of God there shall that give its Mystery to the * outward Image again viz the Third Principle and the whole Man as God Created him in Adam shall stand forth in CHRISTS Property and power again and live again in JEHOVA's Light and Power 237. For when Christ hath finished all Then shall he deliver up the Kingdome in the Regeneration to his Father again and God shall be ALL in ALL as he was before the Times of the World 238. The Authour erreth in this that he conceiteth That the Man who turneth himself to CHRIST wholly puts on Christ inwardly and outwardly and becometh wholly CHRIST and that the Nature of the Properties dyeth away There is no ground for this Christs Flesh became conceived in the Power of the Holy Spirit in Maryes Essence but our evill Flesh we receive from Adams sinfull Male or Masculine Seed in the Power or vertue of the two Tinctures of the Man and of the Woman 239. Christ saith That which is born of Flesh is flesh but that which is born of the Spirit that is spirit Flesh and Bloud shall not inherit the Kingdome of Heaven The Spirit is the Life the Flesh profiteth nothing it shall putrifie or rot and enter into its first Substance 240. The Spirituall Man according to the Kingdome of God which dyed in Adam but in the Repentant Sinner is regenerated in Christ that dwelleth in Heaven as St. Paul saith Our conversation is in Heaven from whence we expect the Saviour CHRIST who is the Life 241. His Mystery wherein the earthly Flesh of Sinne dwelleth that passeth into the beginning and expecteth the Saviour JESUS CHRIST to the Resurrection and Restoration into Life This is my apprehension and knowledge 242. I say rot that a Man in this Flesh is Perfect and doth put on Christ outwardly but the Mystery viz the Quintessence putteth on Christ to the Resurrection of the Dead and the Soul in the heavenly substantiality according to Christs true heavenly Corporeity awakeneth or ariseth as to ITS Substance which it had but dyed in Adam 243. Christ giveth US his Body to Eate and his Bloud to drink but NOT to the Man of Sinne but to the Man in CHRIST new Born to Life viz that from the Divine Worlds Substance to the Paradisicall Man which hath a Heavenly Mouth to partake with 244. For Christ dwelleth in Heaven and feedeth us with his Body and Bloud in the Heaven this Heaven is IN Man and not in the Four Elements as to their Operation but in the pure Element Christ feedeth the Body of his Similitude viz the Soul and the heavenly Part in the New born Man 245. Adam eateth of the four Elements and is fed with evill and good Adam the outward Flesh Man sinneth the inward Man willeth not the Sinne Therefore saith Paul Now if I sinne it is not I that doe it but it is the sinfull Desire which dwelleth in the flesh Now therefore with my Mind I serve God and with the flesh the Law of sinne for I doe that which I would not but if I now doe it it is not I that do it but sinne in the flesh 246. Therefore let the Christian Reader that loveth Truth be warned according to my very good bounden Duty and Love-Will not to esteem himself Perfect and to set himself in the Omnipotent Power or vertue of God in the Omniscience and to say He is without sinne and cannot sinne 247. O alasse the Poor Captive Soul in sinfull flesh can dayly Sinne for The Righteous falleth seaven times a Day Also Before thee no Living Man is Righteous if thou wilt impute sinne and he that saith he hath no sinne is a Lyar saith Saint John 248. This Authour erreth in almost all the highest Articles of Faith I therefore admonish you all wisely to consider Pray to God for understanding and continue in true Resignation and Humility before God and continually pray to God according to the Doctrine of Christ Forgive us our Sinnes 249. This Man will be without Guilt or fault he saith he is dead in Christ to the Guiltinesse and if it were at the best with him yet there lyeth the Guilt still in Adams sinfull flesh which according to Christs Doctrine shall not may not can not inherit the Kingdome of Heaven NOT the Husk of Sinne but the Mysterie shall remain for Ever THus is the true understanding upon the Text 1 Timothy 3. 16. sufficiently explained already also the Expositors erroneous Meaning Discovered but yet I will set down his own words here following for the Reader to Ponder The Second Text. 1 Tim. 3. 16. The Mysterie of Godlinesse is apparently great God is manifested in the Flesh first in Adam The Explainers Exposition 1. WHich Text as also the whole Epistle and ALL Writings of the Holy Apostles and Prophets when they illustrate and speak of the apparent Revelation and great Mystery of God can or may no way with Truth be understood applyed or signified Concerning the First created Adam 2. Seeing God in and with this holy Name the whole holy Trinity the whole Divine fullnesse from the least to the greatest with his holy Divine Saving apparent Revealed Great Mystery was not at all manifested in Adam before the Fall or appeared in him much lesse with his Divine fullnesse hath wrought livingly powerfully and actively IN him or dwelt or been implanted but Once and only in Christ the first
struck him who afterwards after the birth did himself terribly and damnably persevere and purposed to slay the beloved Jacob. 14. How mightily holily and gloriously this holy Womans seed manifested it self in the beloved Jacob concerning which the Lord Zebaoth himself giveth glorious holy Testimony in so much as he so highly entituled him that he called him Israel a Prince and Ruler with God 15. This should the faithfull Children and Womans seed of the highly praised Triune God united with and in this God further consider of and especially through this holy good divine living working substantial Seed of God CHRIST JESUS apprehend to themselves the living word of God from the least grain of Mustard-seed and least minutest measure and peece even the totall appearing fullnesse of the Deity in and to themselves according to the Testimony of the Holy Scripture 16. To which holy new-birth originall and beginning in the Faithful Hearts no worldly Wit Art skill learning in the Scriptures and getting it without Booke Phylosophicall Logicall Naturall puft up Art can any thing at all in the least attain or performe according to the Testimony of the Scripture 17. Where are the Scripture-Learned or Scribes where are the Worldly wise Men where are the Judges where are the Councellours Hath not God turned the wisdome of the world into Foolishnesse as it appeareth cleerly and manifestly in all the worldly wise in Scripture-Learned Art and Experience though likely many years from their child-hood to their highest age they have in their state and condition taken great pains for worldly Art 18. Yet they must at last be ashamed before this Triune seed of God CHRIST JESUS the living substantial word of God from the least particle to the highest Perfection in all Saints and let go their ART and lament over it saying that it hath not at all profited them to salvation but been totally hurtfull 19. As many of them also before their decease have forgotten this acquired Art and worldly naturall wisdome which they have learnt and have become so foolish and childish and indeed in all Stations and conditions that they alas could not any more preserve and recollect in their memory OVR FATHER which they learnt from their child-hood according to the Letter 20. As then they will apprehend this necessary information according to the Glorious appearing of this holy womans seed according to the measure in all Saints in Joseph Moses Joshuah Rebeccah Samuel David Solomon and all holy honest faithfull people and Prophets of the Old and New Testament in works words and deeds to the totall perfection inwardly and outwardly visible Birth of the Sonne of God born out of the perfect pure Virgin and Genetrix of God MARY even every Elect to the highest praise of God will partake with GOD himself and delight himself therein and will know how to praise the most high Eternally for it with himself Jacob Behme's Answer To this Explanation of this Third Point of the Fourth Text. 1. THis Authour mentioneth concerning the Triune God and Man CHRIST and concerning the Divine Woman or Wife and signifieth that not only all things were created through and for that Triune Man CHRIST but also after the Fall were by his holy Becoming Man or Incarnation and precious Inward Passion and Dying Resurrection and Ascention into Heaven and perfect merit perfectly Delivered 2. All which needeth far another explanation for if I say CHRIST is the Triune God then I speak of no Man or Creature for the Holy Trinity is no Man nor Woman much lesse a Creature 3. Only he hath manifested himselfe through and IN the Humanity and made himself visible in a humane Image but the visible palpable Substance of the Flesh is not the Triune Deity but the Spirit in the power of the Flesh the divine Spirit in the Spirituall the uncreaturely IN the creaturely is GOD. 4. CHRIST so farre as he is called the Triune God according to the Eternall Word in the Name JEHOVA or JESUS so farre as concerns the unmeasurable God is no Man or Creature but the Fullnesse of all things dwelling in himself 5. But according to the Name CHRIST the Deity is visible and this CHRIST viz The Anointed of God penetrateth only or presseth upon the humanity NOT upon ALL Creatures he uniteth himself to NO Creature but Man he hath also with his Incarnation Suffering Dying and Resurrection delivered NO creature but MAN 6. With the Name CHRIST he is become manifest only in the Humanity not in the Earthly or Heavenly Creatures The Earthly and Heavenly Creatures need NO Christ and the Hellish have NONE 7. This Christ it is through whom God who dwelleth in him and hath manifested himself with the Christ who will judge all things and separate the Good from the Evill HE is not manifested in the Creatures that he would deliver them to Eternity and dwell Creaturely in them as he dwelleth in MAN all Creatures of this world except Man go again into that out of which they proceeded in the beginning 8. When I will speak of the Man CHRIST what kind of Threesold God and Man he is then I distinguish the humane Creature which he hath received of us Men and difference it from the Triune Deity the manifested Substance from the power and Omnipotence 9. Not that he is divided but that the Spirit of God is higher then the Substance which he generateth in his Desire in his exhaled Sound for according to Our Substance CHRIST calleth himselfe the Sonne of Man and saith the Father is greater than HEE 10. According to the humanity he hath a given power and according to the Deity he is the Giver himselfe The Man is our Humanity and the Christ is the Anointed of God which God hath manifested out of the Name JEHOVA or JESUS out of the Deep of the wisdome out of the Center of God out of the Great Love and given it to the humane Creature for a Light and Eternall Seed 11. Not that this amiable blessed sweet Love of Christ is the Man but the holy SUN shine in the Great Love-flame in the Man for when I see a holy Christian Man going or standing I do not say there goeth or standeth Christ but I say there goeth or standeth a Christian Man in whom the Sun CHRIST shineth 12. The Person of Adam is not the Christ but the Person of the power of God which dwelleth in the Man Adam according to the Heavenly Part That is Christ 13. As the Sun shineth in the whole outward world and impowereth all and maketh it fruitfull and the world is not the Sun so also the CHRIST shineth as a revealed or Manifested Sun out of JEHOVA or JESUS in the Creaturely humanity of Christ 14. The Name Christ is the revealed or manifested Sun out of the Eternall Name JEHOVA or JESUS JEHOVA is the Eternall Divine SUN in which this great Love-Sun CHRIST as a Heart in the Center of
passe from me and he prayed to God so that he sweat a bloudy sweat 4. Also when he would do Wonders or Miracles and Signes then he prayed his Father to hear him as may be seen by his raising Lazarus from Death Moreover it is written also that God will give his honour to no other Also I only am the LORD and GOD Also God is one only God and none Else 5. Therefore his Title and Introduction to the Person for whom he sets forth the Explanation is instantly very Erroneous and he will answer in the Perfect power of the Omniscience in and out of the Holy Trinity and esteemeth himself like God in every thing or substance and sets himself up as if he were God himself 6. He will in Christ with his totall humane substance outwardly and inwardly in all Saints be and know that which no Creature can know or do or be but the Spirit of God only which IN Every Man bloweth up the knowledge and imparteth to every one his own measure according to his gifts as be will not as the Creature willeth 7. But this man saith He will answer out of Christ out of his Eternall Wisdome out of the Heart and Mouth of God out of the holy Trinity 8. And though he had a divine command for it which a Man may very well doubt of and come to us in an Angelical Embassie yet he could NOT speak to us out of the Manifested or revealed sound or voyce of the Holy Trinity out of Christs self-subsisting Person but out of his Creature in divine Power through the Creaturely and humane Property in that kind as all men from the beginning of the world to this time have spoken 9. And though Men may with truth say that Gods Spirit speaketh through the Humane sound yet men should give the honour to God and not ascribe it to himself For it is written God will not give his honour to another he hath given it to his Son JESUS CHRIST to whom alone he hath given the holy Spirit in the Eternall Word without Measure and to no other 10. Whence Christ saith Matth 28. All power in Heaven and on Earth is given to me of my Father which no other Man while he liveth in this world dare say concerning his creaturely Humanity that he hath all power in Heaven and on Earth but only this JESUS whose out-going hath proceeded from Eternity 11. Also this JESUS CHRIST said when he would depart from us If any shall come and say he is Christ that we should not beleeve it and prophesied to us that Many false Christs and Prophets would arise after him of whom we should beware 12. Therefore it is very suspicious to us that this man will of himself speak out of the Heart and Mouth of the Holy Trinity for the Creature should humble himself before God and by no means say that he is God himself but a created work and Image of his Likenesse with whom God may do what he will 13. Further He speaketh of the Originall and Creation of Man so wonderfully that he cannot shew it in the Holy Scripture nor in the Light of Nature and there belongeth clean another Explanation to it 14. Yes he speaketh also of Christ so strangly that in briefe it appeareth to be no sufficient intelligible Explanation he saith CHRIST is from Eternity the expresse Image of God in the Divine Mother of his Love generated or born out of the voyce of the holy Trinity and so maketh a difference between the first born before all Creatures and the Holy Trinity and yet will have him also dwelling in the Holy Trinity 15. So he makes very wonderfully FOUR Persons as it should seem in the Deity as if the holy Trinity had from Eternity generated in it self some other Similitude and Image in which birth or geniture he also will have the Humane Originall from Eternity and so wonderfully blendeth one thing with another that a Man can not understand what God is and what Creature is 16. He saith God hath Created all Heavenly and Earthly Creatures in that first begotten or born Sonne of God and begotten the Sonne out of the Greatest Substance even to the least from Eternity out of God he understandeth thereby out of the Holy Trinity 17. And maketh all things one in another as a whirling Wheele so that a Man cannot understand out of what the Creaturely Originall is seeing he concludeth all without distinction in Christ and so setteth the Name of CHRIST as proceeding from Eternity 18. And saith that God hath brought forth all things in Christ and then he must also have brought forth all Evill venomous poysonous Worms and Beasts in Christ as also Darknesse and the hellish quality source or Torment and all whatsoever liveth in such a property 19. John saith in the first Chapter At the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and God was the Word the same was in the beginning with God through that he hath made all things that were made and without it was nothing made that was made John saith God was the Word and in him was the Life of Men. 20. He saith NOT At the Beginning was CHRIST but the Word that very Word became Man in the Virgin Mary that was Christ which quenched the Anger of his Eternall Father in the humane property through the Christ and the Crusher or bruiser of the Serpent and destroyed the Devills Den of Robbery in the humane property 21. When the Angel Gabriel came to Mary and brought her the Message That she should be impregnate and bear a Sonne whose Name she should call JESVS whose out-going is from Eternity to whom God the Father will give the Throne of his Father David 22. He saith NOT there whose Name you shall call JESUS CHRIST but only JESUS whose beginning and Exit is from Eternity but the Name CHRIST existed in the JESUS when he possessed the Throne of his Father David and brake the Head of the Serpent and shed his Heavenly Bloud into the Fathers Anger and quenched the same in the humane property with divine Love 23. There he obtained the Name CHRIST as a Healer of the Soar or the Anoynted of God a breaker through Death a victorious Prince over Hell Death and the Devill 24. No Creature is Created or made in the CHRIST but he in the Regeneratour of the humane property he bringeth the humane Life out of Death and generateth that in CHRIST through the Name JESUS in the divine Power anew and to be the Child of God 25. For CHRIST is the Mother of the Regeneration and not the Creatour of All things in which all things lye inclosed 26. The CHRIST is become Man but the JESUS in the CHRIST is the Creatour of all things 27. The CHRIST saith To ME is given all power both in Heaven and on Earth he saith not from Eternity God
the Father hath given the power to CHRIST through the JESUS for he to whom a thing is given hath not had it from Eternity nor made it himself but he that hath himself made a thing to him it can not be given 28. Hath CHRIST made all things in himself understand in the CHRIST and out of himself then nothing can be given to him but he hath had it from Eternity and there is no giving 29. But he saith all power was given to him of his Father Now if the power be given of the Father to this Sonne viz to this CHRIST then must a Man think that the power that is given originateth in the Fathers Will. 30. For that which is given was not from eternity like or equall with the Gift in the Giver Indeed the Dear Name JESUS had it from Eternity for he had an Eternall Originall in the Eternall Ever speaking Word 31. He is the Name of the First-Born of the Father from Eternity whose out-going and beginning is from Eternity as the Angel said to Mary which Name in the Word which Created all things and generated all things in Mary in the Humane and Divine Essence and Substance became Flesh both a Heavenly and Humane Flesh which dwelleth both in Heaven and on Earth at once Joh. 3. 32. Which in the holy Trinity was from Eternity the Second Person of the Divine Substance and Eternally generated of his Father also in Eternity also still in CHRIST becometh ever and eternally generated of his Father 33. Not that CHRIST becometh continually generated that is once become generated in Man but the Eternall Word in CHRIST becometh from Eternity in Eternity ever generated from the Father 34. For CHRIST said to Philip Dost thou not beleeve that the Father is in Me and that I am in the Father for the Words which I speak are not Mine but the Fathers that dwelleth in Me. 35. They were not Christs Words but the Fathers viz the Fathers Sound and Eternall Voyce which had manifested it self in the Humanity Therefore said the Humanity the Words are Not Mine but the Fathers Words wherein and wherewith he hath assumed the Humanity 36. The Humanity is Eternally under the Deity in the assumed humanity in THAT the Word became Flesh the Name Christus or CHRIST originateth as a Saviour of the Flesh and of the Soul and not out of the humane fleshly property but out of the Name JESUS in the Word of the Father of all things or Substances 37. Now if I will speak of the Holy Trinity then I say not That the Divine Love is an Exgenerated Substance and a Mother of God or a Woman or Wife of God as this Authour Conceiteth as if the first begotten which he calleth CHRIST were generated out of the Mother of his Voyce and Love 38. The Eternall Word or the first begotten out of the Father from Eternity is it self the generating of the Love for from him and the Father goeth forth the Holy Spirit 39. The Eternall Wisdome is the Out-generated or out-spoken Substance as a Looking-Glasse and Ornament of the Holy Trinity in which the Power Colours and vertues of the Deity become Manifest and in which the Spirit of God hath seen ALL things from Eternity 40. Both according to the Fathers Property in which he calleth himself an Angry Zealous or Jealous God and a Consuming Fire in which Property is generated the Darknesse and source or quality of pain or Torment as also Nature and all Spirits and all whatsoever liveth in the Sulphur and Mercury both according to the Eternall Spirits and according to the Temporary Spirits 41. And then according to his Love and the Property of the Eternall Light according to which Property the Name GOTT God viz the GUTE or Good Originateth from Eternity in which the Name JESUS Originateth from the Eternall Light viz from the Creatour of the Humility or of the well-willing in it self as the Meeknesse of the Light Originateth in the Fire and bringeth along with it another Will of another quality then the Fire according to which God Calleth himself a Mercifull and Good Munificent God 42. Thus the Name JESUS is the first Eternall Originall to Gods Mercifulnesse Therefore saith Saint Paul We were foreseen or Elected in CHRIST JESVS before the Foundation of the World was laid For in the Fathers Anger was the Fall known and in the Name JESUS in his Love was CHRIST as a Redeemer from the Anger known 43. For To God are all his works knowne from Eternity the Good and the Evill The Evill is become known in his Anger the Good in his Love 44. That same Eternall God in Trinity hath Created all things with and through the Eternall Word which is his Mouth and the Sound of his Voyce out of himself out of BOTH Properties out of the Anger as out of the Eternall Nature and then out of the Love as a Healer or Saviour of Nature into Substance 45. Understand God in the Trinity is a Spirit and no Substance But in the Word of his Sound he hath in his Desire introduced it into Substance His desire is the Fiat which originateth in verbo Domini in the Word of the Lord viz an Eternall Desire 46. God in himself is the Eternall Longing Delight of the Liberty free from all things or Substances but with his Desire out of the Longing Delight as out of the Eternall Fires-Property he hath Created all Spirits viz the Angels and Souls of Men In which Fires-Property the Center of the Light in all Angels with the Fire of the Anger stood in Equall Ballance Harmony or Temper 47. For when God once moved himself to the Creation then he moved himself according to ALL whatsoever himself was in all things especially according to the Eternall Wisdome in which the Form of the Creation was seen from Eternity in the Fire and Lights Glance in the Spirit of God according to Love and Anger according to Darknesse and Light 48. The Creation is nothing else but an out-breathing or out-speaking of his Substance Whatsoever GOD is in the Nature of the Fire and then also in the Eternall Liberty of all sources or qualities that hath the Free Longing delight introduced into a Desire and impressed into a Moving Substance 49. The Desire viz the Fiat of all things or Substances Originateth in that the Vnchangeable God viz the Abysse hath once Moved it self in the Eternall Longing Delight where then Time began 50. All Angells and Creatures which are Created to Eternall Life are all of them comprised in the Out-breathing of the Father through the Word in the Desire as in the Moving in the Fiat and in a Model of the Eternall Longing Delight as the Eternall Spirit in the Wisdome hath comprehended it in its wonders become Created into an Image of the Longing Delight and there remained in all things the possibility to Good and Evill according to the whole Divine Property
as God in and with God but he said The Words which I speak are the Fathers who dwelleth in Me that is in the humane self-hood I doe as the Father Commandeth Me. 136. Men should alwayes distinguish the Humanity and the Deity and the humane Will from Gods Will for No man can attain Gods Mind or Sence Thoughts and Will in Self-hood Man seeth after or behind the Spirit of God even Moses could not see Gods Face or Countenance he must see after or Behind him When he did see him he saw but the Lords Track or footsteps How then will this Man speak in with and through God and though the Lord do speak through him yet he knoweth it not till he see and know his Footsteps 137. It is therefore a vain enterprise or rashnesse which beside is not sufficiently grounded It is only intricate Confusion he will not be Nature and yet in Man there can be no divine knowledge without Nature 138. Nature is Gods Revelation or Manifestation the humane Spirit is or is from the Eternall Nature understand the Soul and the outward Spirit is or is from the Outward Nature and yet they are not two Spirits but they stand in one another in Three Degrees after the kind of the Three Principles 139. And yet all Three are only the out-spoken or expressed Word of God the speaking remaineth Eternally dwelling in it Selfe this expressed or Out-spoken Word may give it self up into Love and Anger BOTH are therein it CAN alter or Change it self in the source or quality but the speaking Word which dwelleth in it self IN the Out-spoken or expressed CAN NOT alter it self for it standeth in the Eternall Birth or Geniture it is generated and is become continually generated from Eternity in Eternity 140. Man hath it not IN self-hood but IN the free Resignation God becometh generated in him Man hath Originall God hath none God is as to Man as a Nothing Man is the Nothings somewhat therefore now the somewhat can not comprehend the Nothing 141. Therefore beware dear Brethren make not Gods Dear Redeemed Children to Erre and to become their own self-Idol-Gods it is an abomination in the presence of God 142. We are indeed his beloved Children but begotten out of the Somwhat we are not the Nothing without or besides all source or quality and Nature let every one feel in his Bosome and consider what he is and not think that he is wholly like God or GOD himself 143. We are indeed the Manifestation of God viz the Instrument of his Harmony We are his Pipe through which he Pipeth Now there are Three sorts of Pipers in us which Pipe in the Pipe viz The Three sorts of Properties of the Spirit of Life out of all the Three Principles 144. When now will the Pipe know when Gods Love-Will will Pipe or when his Anger-Will will Pipe Must it not as a Pipe give the Mercury to Good and Evill It findeth it indeed when Gods Love-Will Pipeth but before-hand it knoweth it not 145. Thus this Authour should not say He can Pipe out of the Sound of the Holy Trinity for we understand his Sound that the Tang soundeth out of his Self-hood not out of Gods Love Voyce while himself will be the Piper we hear his Tone only as a humane Tone CHRIST will not receive the honour in the self-hood therefore much lesse doth it become us 146. Secondly That the Authour saith God hath created all Heavenly and Earthly Creatures IN Christ this hath no Ground it is very erroneous and ill applyed therefore it shall be here better explained and given forth for the better understanding of the Reader that he may know how to speak distinctly concerning Christ and concerning the Eternall Word of God 147. It is not set down for a reproach to the Authour but for a Direction to the Reader of his writings that he may not be Lead astray in his writings Moreover only out of a true Christian Love desire towards all that Love God also not thereby to lift up my selfe and to flye aloft over this Author but to give forth that understanding that God hath given me out of Grace written for Good Friends upon their frequent desires and importunity 148. Thirdly That the Authour mentioneth that he will Speak and Act through and out of the Omnisciency that a very childe may well understand what he meaneth thereby and that he is not Omniscient else he had known that I would better explain it He hath no more in his knowledge than a Creature hath but if he hath that which he boasteth of then let him tell what shall be done to Morrow and next day and what shall be done at all times to the End of the World 149. It is written in the Evangelists that the Son of Man according to his assumed humanity knoweth not the END of the World and that this knowledge is only in God how then will this Man be Omniscient 150. And though he should say he will know it in Christ yet I say no he must see after or behinde the Spirit of Christ which is Omniscient what and when THAT will know in him 151. He is not a Knower of every thing therefore he is not sufficiently grounded but is as a mixt confusion he sets himself wrongfully in the seat of God for he liveth yet in Evill and Good and is Mortall which time will shew forth 152. Fourthly But that he also saith he will answer out of all the holy Members of Christs Body they are almost all against him in their Gifts how then will he speak out of their Spirit It is a vile confusion he hath not all Mens Gifts but only his own 153. I am also a Member of Christ but do not see that he answereth out of me In deed he hath borrowed from me but he answers not out of my Mind thoughts or apprehension I would he would let his borrowing alone and did not make Confusion in my Gifts that he might there by boast himself It would become him better 154. Fifthly Though indeed he saith He will do this for the salvation sake of all the Faithfull Beleevers yet it is not enough perceptible to me that he seeketh such a thing only seeing he sets himself in Christs Seat and somewhat else may lye behind the green Leaf 155. Seeing he saith God hath brought forth to Light all things whether they be Heavenly or Earthly in Christ and cloatheth himselfe wholly in Christs Might and Omniscience therefore it is very considerable to me especially seeing he ascribes immortality to himself that I should therefore follow and observe Christs Words viz If any should come and say he is Christ we should not beleeve it till he demonstrate it in Power 156. Sixthly Also if he be the Omnisciency of the Holy Trinity he needs no Litterall Testimony or demonstration he may shew his Omniscience in Divine power as Christ did and
born of God before all creatures 3. Which revealed great Mistery with the whole Divine fullnesse afterwards in its appointed Time in the assuming of our humane Body and Soul Flesh and Bloud in the Flesh of Christ became knowne and Manifested whence this Text according to your Scripture signification in Eternity cannot be severed or the first secluded from the Created Adam but the second viz the Justification in the Spirit following according to your Meaning is to be understood only in Christ but both belong only and alone to the Regeneration of Christ and of ALL his holy Members in the flesh 4. As indeed according to your visible Explanation in the Letter not only the flesh of the Created Adam but the whole Person Body and Soul the Totall Soul-Man which is created in the Naturall Life hath sinned and through the Fall come into Eternall Perdition 5. Whence the Justification and Regeneration through God the Lord who is the Spirit in Christ yea Christ the highly praised God himself is appropriated to all the faithfull and Elect new Creatures and Imaged or Represented and United in the Faith 6. Through which highly praised Triune God CHRIST JESUS the Expresse Image of the totall holy perfect Divine Triunity all Elect rightly Beleeving in with and through himself are GLORIFIED in his Expresse Image and brought from one Glory to another as by him the Lord and Triune God himself who is the Lord the Spirit 7. As really the Justification cannot be applyed and explained concerning God and Christ without the Regeneration and union of Body and Soul of the whole humane visible and palpable Person who is the Eternal Righteousness it self but concerning the converted and redeemed whole humane Person in ONE Body concerning Body and Soul and not concerning the Flesh alone which without Soul and the inbreathed breath of God is nothing but Dust and Ashes according to the Testimony of Scripture in Many places and Texts Thus far Esaiah Stiefel My Answer upon this 1. LEt the Christian Reader but look this Author Rightly into his heart and consider what he seeks under this description where he saith God hath created ALL things in Christ as also created and made Man visible in him but wholly without divine manifestation and knowledge so that God with his Mystery in the least was not manifested in Adam whereas yet the Spirit of God did breath into him the living Breath whence Man became a living Soul 2. Also how this Authour speaks quite against himselfe for he acknowledgeth in many places That God did breath into Man a powerfull living Spirit-Life out of the Divine understanding and Mouth in which Man was the Image of God 3. Now if the Spirit of God did breath into him his Breath viz the living understanding Soul how then was not God manifested in Man But he must do it for another cause that thereby he might give forth or professe himself wholly altogether to be God for he sets it down thus That God Created and made Adam visible in Christ and not further manifested himself in Adam but only in Christ and so Created Adam onely to and for the Naturall Life and he understandeth properly under it only that he should or must Fall For if he had no Divine knowledge and if God had never been manifested in him then the Devill might easily have got the Game of him 4. This Authour understandeth it thus that God might have cause to bring forth the hidden Treasure of the Divine wisdome the Second Time in Christ and manifest himself in Christ in the Humane Property and new Regenerate Man totally in the Treasure of his Divine wisdome so that Man is wholly Christ out of which he frameth to himself such a thought that HE himself is Christ 5. And this must help him to it and be the ground and Corner stone thereof That God did Create and make Man visible the First Time in Christ and is now the Second Time wholly new generated in Christ 6. From this now it followeth seeing Christ manifested himself the Second time in the Flesh and manifested the Soul and Body of Man in him with the WHOLE fullnesse of the Deity that MAN is TOTALLY God and Christ and so HE cannot fail of his purpose 7. For if in CHRIST he be come to be visible as to this world in Adam and that Christ as God the second time manifest himself wholly in him with the fulnesse of the Deity inwardly and outwardly in the totall humane Property so that God and Man is totally one then it cannot fail him but that Man must be God 8 Now understand this Authours confusednesse or intricacy First he saith God Created and made Man manifest in his Image that is in Christs Eternall Image which is the Authours Corner-stone but altogether erroneous and not right CHRIST in JEHOVA in IESU from Eternity was no Image of the Deity and even NO Christ The first begotten or born of the Father before all Creatures from Eternity is Gods Heart Voyce Word or Manifestation of the Divine Mouth the Scripture understandeth no other Image 9. The Man Adam became not created and manifested in Christs Image but in his own Image which God had seen from Eternity in his wisdome in the out-spoken word he can shew us no other 10. God created Man in his Image and to the Image of God it stands not written of Christ but of God to the Image he became created to substance and IN the Image he became created in his own Image from Eternity known by the Spirit of God 11. Not to A God but to a Similitude of God as Moses saith God Created Man according to his Similitude Also Let us make Man a Similitude according to us that the Spirit of God may behold it self in a Similitude and might Melodise with himself 12. And therefore he breathed into him the Breath out of his Sound of all his Substance out of all the THREE Principles viz a Tang and Voyce of his Instrument viz a Harmony of God upon which the Spirit of God would melodise and take pleasure in the Tang of the out-spoken Mercury or Word in the Humane Sound and with this Instrument Govern all whatsoever is and liveth in the world and so manifest himself in this humane Sound in Mans voyce and ride upon the wings of Mans Spirit as David saith The Lord rideth upon the wings of the Wind. 13. In this respect his Corner-stone upon which he buildeth is erroneous and not rightly understood If Adam had continued in Gods Harmony there had needed no Christ in Man for the Power of the Serpent Crusher or Bruiser to be the Christ was hidden in the Word of Gods voyce and manifested in no Image 14. God also took not his Love to himself for a wife in that he would generate an Image to himself He himself generateth the Love the Love is IESUS or IEHOVA viz the Second
sundred but as God dwelleth in the world and yet the World is not God a Principle severeth them and as God with his Anger dwelleth in the Creature and yet also in the hiddennesse with the Love among the Anger and yet the Anger receiveth not the Love 37. For I can say that God dwelleth with the Love in the Devil but the Devil cannot receive it the Love is his Enemy as the water is the Fires Enemy and yet the Fire dwelleth in the Originall in the water so God dwelleth in all things but the thing is not capable of his Love so also the Earthly Seed of Mary wherein Sinne was was not capable of the Deity but it hung as another Principle to the Inward Seed in which God manifested himself 38. The Inner Man which now became Christ THAT took our Sinne upon it self and hung the Body upon which he had Laid Mans Sinne on the Crosse as a Curse of God For there hung the first Adam which God cursed for the sake of Sinne on the Crosse with the curse of Sinne and dyed to Sinne on the Crosse and in his dying he shed the Bloud of the holy man in Christ into the Mystery of the Soul and of the Outward Man wherein Death was 39. For the holy Bloud was conceived in the Holy Spirit and was immortall it was conceived IN the water of the Eternall Life in the Tincture of Gods Light in his sweet Love and had resolved it self into and appropriated it self with the Bloud of the disappeared Image 40. Now when this Bloud fell together into Death then Death Trembled before this holy Eternall Life the Anger trembled before the Love and fell in its Poyson and Fierce wrath which held us captive into its dying according to the kinde of the fierce wrath 41. And yet there is no dying or ceasing to be understood but it went in the terrour of the Love up in the divine Kingdome of joy as a Light becometh shining out of an anxious hot Source or Quality where all anxiety taketh an End 42. The Fierce wrath which before was evill and angry that was now the cause of the great Fiery Love and Kingdome of Ioy for nothing must passe Away in Man he must remain as God created him in Adam but he must again be transmuted into that very Image into that very resigned will and be obedient to God 43. For the Scripture saith The Son of God Christ became obedient to the Father even to the Death on the Tree of the Crosse so wholly must also our humane will be broken in Christs death and the Anger in HIS Bloud be Transmuted into the Love 44. And that is it which David saith Thou wilt not let thy Holy ONE see Corruption or Consumption Now when he shed his holy Bloud in the true Image of God in Christ then became the Poyson of the Anger in Adams Flesh Soul and Spirit sanctified and transmuted into Love and the Devils Den of Robbery wholly destroyed 45. There enmity ceased and God became IMMANUEL Man with God and God with Man for here Adams Flesh became Tinctured prepared for the Resurrection for Death brake in the Eternall New-born Life of CHRIST out of JESU 46. And here the Gate of Death viz the Eternall Darknesse in Mans Body and Soul became broken open and the Cherubine with the Sword which did cut off the humane Life from the Light of Nature was taken away and the fountain began to flow out of Sion viz out of Christs Spring in the whole Man so that man could now henceforth drink of the Water of the Holy Element and Eat ex verbo Domini of the Word of the Lord. 47. Thus now we are to consider our Imitation of or following after him we cannot say that we can do what God in JESU did through CHRIST in breaking the way for us No WE can NOT shed heavenly Bloud and transmute the Anger of God into Love else if that were any way possible then we must also as a Curse be Nailed to the CROSSE and though that should be yet our inward Man is not exalted into the degree of Christ to be wholly like him 48 For JESUS viz the totall fullnesse of the Deity dwelleth in CHRIST without Measure and in him viz in his Mother MARY was the Limit or Mark of the Covenant which God blessed in Paradise into THAT God looked and through it Gods Imagination entered in through the Jewish Sacrifices 49. God brake death in peeces only through him but we must introduce our Imagination and desire into him that our Tinder of the faded Image in him may begin to glimmer or Glow in the Spirit and power of Christ which apprehendeth the true hunger of the right Faith wherewith Man through the glowing or glimmering Tinder which if it be sincere and earnest at length becometh a shining Light of God in JESUS can break the Power of Sinne in the Flesh and keep it in subjection as a Churlish unruly evill Dog which can NOT altogether be freed from ITS Malignity or Malice till it break wholly and altogether 50. That the Shell into which the Devil hath introduced his Imagination and had his Den of Robbery therein be altogether dissipated that there be no more life therein and then so soon as the outward Man dyeth that the Soul be freed of the Evill Beast THEN it hath the open Gate in its beloved Image in which Christ hath opened himself with the Divine Love-Fire 51. And then is the Union already there the Bride cheereth her Bridegroom viz the Noble Virgin in the Love of Christ being awakened again which taketh the Soul viz its loving Bridegroom and Man or Husband into her Arms of the Divine desire and what is there done I have no Pen to write it with It is more than humane or Natural to write that 52. What Gods Love and sweetnesse is which the converted Man if he enter into his Father again and acknowledge himself a Swineheard and bewayle his by past Sinnes and seeketh the Fathers Grace and Favour experienceth when Christ his Bridegroom sets upon him the Virgin-like Garland or Crown where the Pearl of the divine reception of Grace at first becometh sown 53. What Joy the Virgin hath when it obtaineth Life again and receiveth its Bridegroom Christ how very amiably and blessedly it presents it self towards the soul and comprehendeth the soul viz its Man or Husband in its Love at which indeed Soul and Body tremble in Joy 54. Which those only know who have been Guests in this Place and this Authour who in the Letter will be PERFECT and new-born only and meerly with a litteral skill and knowledge it is likely hath yet never experienced and scarce tasted the Supper of Christ 55. Seeing he is but a Litteral Saint and a Contender and moreover a high-minded despiser of the children of Christ in their unlike Gifts and his holiness is confined meerly within
more assured certainty 16. At the Beginning he maketh a great Speech or Sermon signifying how He will Answer out of Christ the Triune God out of Gods Mouth and Heart out of all Saints men should hearken to it and look upon it as Gods infallible Word 17. This now is sufficiently explained above that it is groundlesse and that to speak in such a manner is ineffectuall also it doth not become any Angel or Man so to speak 18. But concerning the Text Isa 54. 5. The Explanation thereof is very sufficiently made before yet for the Readers sake I will set down somewhat more 19. The Prophet saith He who hath made Thee is thy Man or Husband The Lord of Hoasts is his Name and thy Redeemer the Holy One in Israel who is called the God of all things 20. The Prophet speaketh here in his own understanding not of a Man or Husband but by way of Similitude in like manner as the Seed to Man lyeth in the Man or Husband from which Man becometh manifested So all yes all whatsoever is manifested lay in the Eternall Man or Husband viz in the Generatour of all things or Substances 21. But especially of mans Life which he hath breathed into the Created Image according to the Similitude of his Substantiality and out of all his out-breathed Substance as John saith The Life of Man was in HIM 22. And yet in this we are not so to think as if the inbreathed Life or Substance of Man were only and solely the Spirit of God in Divine Holinesse and Omnipotency No else if that were perished as it came to passe then God were perished but each Life of each Creature becometh given to the Creature out of the Originall of its Substance 23. So the Substance of Man is given forth out of the Three Principles viz out of the Eternity and out of the Time viz out of the Substance and Source or Quality of Darknesse which containeth in it Nature viz Sulphur Mercurius and Sal. 24. As to the First Part and Principle Spirituall as a Regiment or Dominion and Source or Quality out of which Substance cometh to be and as to the Second Part according to the outward World corporeall in the first Principle fiery and in the Third Principle out of the dark impression Earthly and Four Elementary and sydereall from the Sun and Stars And from the Second Principle from the Light and Power of that out-breathed or generated Substance Heavenly Holy and Oyly viz from the pure Element and divine indwelling also Paradisicall in Power and Highnesse 25. In this created Images Substance out of Three Principles viz out of the out-spoken Substance of all things or Substances hath the eternall Spirit of God extracted the Originall of this whole Substance which is a Spirit out of all the Three Principles out of and through the Substance and made it a Ruler and Life of the Substance viz a Living Soul 26. That is A Fire-spirit out of the First Principle with the Root of the first Impression to the manifestation of the Deity and in standing in the Darknesse and in the Center of the first Fire of the eternall Nature with the first Life in generating in the seaven properties out of which ALL Substances are existed 27. THAT is the true Fire-Soul out of the Fathers property wherein God calleth himself a Strong Zealous or Jealous God and a Consuming Fire but is not knowne or manifested in the Light of God but is only the CAUSE of the Kingdome of Joy 28. And in the dark Root viz in the first Impression viz in the true Center of the Creature is the Originall of Sinne viz of the Evill if that property in the Creature becometh manifested then is that Life a life in the fierce wrath and Anger of God and an Enmity of the Love and Meeknesse 29. And Secondly the Spirit of God hath inbreathed into him the Originall of the Substance of the Second Principle viz the Life out of which the heavenly Substance in the desire of Love becometh generated out of and through that very Substance in which Life the Soul is the true Image and Similitude of God and an Angell in the Kingdome of God 30. Which Life Adam squandered away and lived only in the dark fiery and Earthly part which Life God hath manifested out of JESUS viz out of the greatest depth of humility in CHRIST out of himself again in Man 31. Thirdly Gods Spirit hath inbreathed into him the Aire viz the Soul of the outward earthly Substance out of and through the earthly Flesh as viz a Life of the Flesh of the Earthlinesse which Life should be subjected to the holy and stand hidden in him as a help and Instrument in equall agreement of Heat and Cold and neither of them be in the Dominion but the holy Life of the Second Principle in the Sonne should Rule The Sulphur and Mercurius should Rule in a holy power viz in a Quintessence in the pure Element then the Paradise had continued manifest 32. Understand us aright thus the Man or Husband who hath spoken or expressed this fore-mentioned Substance out of himself hath Created Man out of this his generated corporeall Substance The Prophet meaneth THAT where he saith He who hath made thee is thy Man or Husband 33. For in him lyeth ALL viz as a Seed in the Man or Husband out of his Exhalation or out-breathing a Seed became manifested First the Three Principles and out of the Three Principles the Creature 34. The Second Clause of the Verse The LORD of Hoasts is his Name This the Prophet of God understandeth concerning the Eternall Substance of God without besides or beyond all Nature and Creature and without besides or beyond the Principles as the eternall Will of the Free Longing Lust or Delight manifesteth it self in the Abysse 35. Which at this place or in this Birth or Generating is NOT said to be THREE fold but ONE only GOD who riseth up in himself and goeth forth out of himself in a Spirituall Manner and manifesteth himself through the Center of his Fire with the Light and the Power of the Love desire in the Transmutation of the Fire into the Light 36. Which Birth or Geniture and manifestation manifesteth out of the Fire the Divine Sound Power and Understanding after the Manner of the Five Senses as a peculiar Life a Life of Love and this Life is called the Second Person of the Deity viz the Second Principle of the Divine Substance 37. Wherein the Abysse viz the eternall Nothing in the stillnesse of the Will manifesteth it self through the Fire in the Light and maketh the Fire to be the Kingdome of Joy and this Birth or Geniture is called the First Born of the Father of all Genetrixes through which the Father hath generated and Created all things to the Light Whatsoever is out of or from the Inward Spirituall Eternall and then out of or from the outward Nature
such an Example as that of Moses and David 112. Therefore a Man cannot say that the Spirit of Christ promoteth it and driveth it on and intoduceth it self into the burning or ardent Imagination Christ therefore became a Man without the help or Co-working or concurrence of any Man or Husband that he might bring us forth out of this abomination before God through his holy Incarnation or Becoming Man he became such a Virgin-like Child with both the Tinctures one in another with own self-Love that he might bring our Rent in himself into ONE 113. And this is the abomination in the Marriage work that the Seed is unclean in the Conjunction of both the Tinctures when they are brought together into One it is the Property of the Eternall Joyfullnesse viz of the highest desiring and fulfilling if that might be done without abomination THEN it were holy 114. But the Sulphur of the Seed is an abomination before the Holinesse The Elevation of the Naturall Lifes Forms where the Forms of Nature lift up themselves in self-hood they lye in the Seeds and are kindled in Gods Anger viz in the abomination of the dark world through the Devils Imagination 115. Therefore this impure Sulphur out of which the Tinctures in the Fire Life viz in the Fiery Tincture become generated is an abomination before Gods holinesse and therefore must also this Sulphur with the abomination totally corrupt or break in peeces and go again into the beginning of the Creation 116. And though it be so that the Word of the LORD Verbum Domini intermixeth it self together in the Holy People that is done according to the inward Man where the Divine Sparkle is propagated in the Image of God in the Heavenly Substantiality 117. For the Word of the Deity in the Spirit of Christ dwelleth in Heaven and the right true Image created from the Divine worlds Substance which in Adam dyed and faded is the Heaven's Substance into which NO abomination CAN Enter for the Holy Spirit receiveth not that 118. The Spirit of Christ possesseth and manifesteth it selfe in HIS Tents and not in the beastial Conjunction of the Abominations of Sinne It is not in the power of the Imagination of the Flesh but in the pure Love-desire of Chastity and Faithfullnesse where TWO joyn their Minds together in the Marriage Band and give up their Love and faithfullnesse one to another to be their own and desire to be ONE Heart and Will 119. There the Spirit of Christ is the Love-band and here now is rightly that thing Increase or Multiply and be fruitfull God said to Adam and Eve they should multiply themselves in their Marriage Band. 120. He saith not HE would do it with the promised Crusher or Bruiser of the Serpent but he gave them the power of the Naturall Man but the Holy Spiritual Birth or Geniture he promoteth in his own Principle and not in the perished corrupt Flesh not in the Imagination of Lust which is more Beastiall than truly Humane 121. Indeed he bringeth holy children together but by the means of his Officer Nature how he will have it but the marriage work according to the outward Man is not Holy but according to the inward it is holy in the children of the Saints and Not in Beastiall Vessels 122. But that this Authour sets it down That through this Conjunction of Man and Wife in their Lust-desire the Evill Properties and Lust of the Flesh are separated asunder and totally sanctified in the Spirit of Christ the Love-Spirit of Christ mixeth it self in their Imagination and driveth on all Abominations and worketh in the Imagination this Lust of the Man and Woman and sanctifieth the Imagination and the Seed sinne dyeth and a totall holy child becometh conceived viz a Christ little Child or Infant that is without blemish and Sinne moreover God and Man outwardly and inwardly 123. And this he speaketh as one that understandeth nothing of the Mystery of CHRIST and takes upon him freely as a Saint of his own making a self elected one without power who knoweth not his beastial abomination and Filth 124. He will make Christ to be OUTWARDLY and yet Christ himself saith His Kingdom was not of this World after his appointed work was accomplished he went to Heaven and in the Heaven which is IN us he dwelleth with us and worketh in that very Heaven in us and not at all in the Beastial Man in the fleshly birth in which Death is 125. It is a meer fiction whereby young people which are very eager and fiery in Venus'es desire are made altogether wanton and Luxurious when it is so finely pourtrayed before them that their desire and Lust is Christs driving and that it is the Spirit of Christ which would mix it selfe and beget Children 126. When he conversed upon the Earth HE never desired to mixe himself but only in the Spirit in the Soul and in the Image of God will he then now mixe himself in the beastial outward Work we have NO testimony for that 127. In David was also the Spirit of God should therefore the Spirit of God have mixed it self in his outward whoredom and have driven on the work of the outward Imagination towards Bathsheba the Wife of Vriah whom he murthered then God would have had the whoredome to have been 128. No! God punished David for that very fact therefore men should not say the Spirit of Christ mixeth it self in the Center of the Imagination of fleshly Lust and sanctifieth the outward Seed it is altogether false 129. He sanctifieth his Tabernacles which he possesseth he indeed openeth and shutteth in the work of the Life so that the Mercury viz the Work master cannot many times bring his work to Life and also many times bringeth it to Life according to Gods will as in many times to be seen among the Saints of Old especially in the Line of Christ but men should distinguish the outward from the Inward 130. The Marriage work in it self if it Be done Ordinately is not sinfull for it is driven on by Gods Officer Nature and boarn withall under divine patience 131. God sets before him the Becoming Man or Incarnation of Christ his Sonne as among the Jewes the Sacrifices which God set before him in the Covenant through the future Humanity and reconciled himself in the Covenant that the Anger might not burn in the humane Abomination 132. Thus also in the outward Marriage work God sets before him the true Image which lyeth shut up in our Seed in Christ his Sonne and entereth in the working power into the Substance of that Image of the Heavenly Substantiality as a Glimmering Mother or Tinder of divine Property and herein lyeth the holinesse of the holy marryed peoples Children 133. But in the outward Flesh as also in the Soul the Abomination of Sinne cleaveth to them and so NO child is born into the world without Sinne The will to the outward work of
35. Man in his self-hood and I-hood is not Christ himself but Christ dwelleth in him he is the shining Lustre of his holy Life as himself saith John 8. 12. I am the Light of the World This he speaketh according to the Name CHRIST out of JESUS and not according to our Humanity which Dyed on the Crosse concerning which Isaiah calleth him a simple Servant in that he saith who is so simple as my servant 36. This Servant of God is not the Holy Trinity but the revelation or Manifestation and habitation of the holy Trinity the servant is become slain as a Lamb and not the holy Trinity Men should alwayes make a difference between God and the Humanity else if God were dead in his Trinity then were Death stronger than God who must thus have given himself up to Death 37. Christ is indeed God and Man in ONE Person but the Deity viz the Divine Property is not the Person the Man but the Homo or humanity is the Man and the Lamb of God which was slain and is called Christ from the Anointing so that God hath anointed this humanity of CHRIST with his Spirit without measure for the JESUS is the Anointing viz the Deep Love in the Deity 38. Therefore now the Lamb of God according to the humanity viz IN the Members thereof wherein the promised Covenant was out of which Covenant the Anointing would manifest or reveal it self was slain not Christ the Anointed of God which in the Covenant was hidden in them 39. Abel was not anointed with Christ but indeed with the promised word in the Covenant in which the Christ manifested himself and when Christ manifested himself in the Covenant in the Humane property THEN Abel put on Christ in the Flesh before Christs humanity Abel had put on the Covenant in the promised Word and WHEN Christ arose from the Dead then Abel also arose in Christs anointing in Christs humanity out of Christs Death and lived in the Anointing of Christ 40. The Man Christ is the First that arose from the Dead in the Anointing and is also the First who in the Anointing dyed to the Humane I-hood He is only and alone the Lamb of God in whom God brake his wrath to pieces Abel and all Martyrs are his Members upon whom the breaking death in pieces pressed or penetrated out of this Lamb Christ 41. Abel received an imputed Righteousnesse not a self wrought one of his own Abel before the humanity of Christ was not the Lamb of God but he was a Member in the Lamb of God Christ hath in all things the preheminence and none of them hath been able to call himself a Christian much lesse the Lamb of God that is hath been Slain for or instead of Christ 42. They have all of them only been put to death in the spirit of Faith upon Christs future coming they have put on Christ in the Covenant of Promise in the Spirit of Faith Not as a Lamb or Man but in Power not in the Flesh but in the Spirit so that Christ is the First who in the Flesh should be called The Lamb of God 43. This Authour mentioneth in this Manner But also this holy divine Substantial womans seed hath in and to the Saints appeared and been manifest in many kinds and wayes as in Adam and Eve after the Fall If this be so that the divine substantiall womans Seed was manifest in Adam and Eve then they have put on Christ viz the true womans Seed in Substance 44. And then they need not expect further about any other womans seed why did Eve then say when she bare Cain I have the Man the LORD if she had before the substantiall womans seed manifested in her why did she then hope for another 45. And God said also to Abraham In thy seed shall all Nations be blessed this was spoken concerning the future womans seed which would manifest himself in Abrahams seed Substantially with divine Heavenly Substantiality 46. If it were spoken as to the present then God had not commanded him the Circumcasion and after that the Sacrifice The Substantiall womans seed was not in the Sacrifice but the word of Promise in the Covenant 47. The substantiall seed of which God said therein all Nations should become blessed that lay shut up in Abraham unlesse the opening of the Name JESUS should open it the Promise to Abraham went on as to the Limit 48. That very substantiality wherein God would become Man was saded or disappeared in Adam when he dyed to the Kingdome of Heaven and Paradise This saded or disappeared Seed become in its Principle co-propagated 49. And in this Seed stood the limit of the Covenant out of which the Spirit of God in the Saints manifested it self and not through the faded or disappeared substance but with Christs becoming Man or Incarnation the Substantiall revelation or Manifestation proceeded where God dwelleth within in the substance viz as a Life of the Substance 50. Also this Authour writeth further And after that through Christ the Triune highly praised God himselfe the promise of the Perfect womans seed of the Messiah was pronounced and promised to them The strong Hope Faith and Confidence in this womans Seed caused it self openly to sound forth from them 51. Now if Christ dwelt substantially in Adam and Eve what need he then promise another substance to them I verily think Christ would not be manifested or revealed in Adam much lesse hath Christ promised Adam to become Man in his seed but God promised the Christ to Adam viz to awaken the Anointed of God in his seed viz in the womans seed and not in the Mans seed As in the Fourth Point shall be expressed at large 52. Christ stood in Adam and Eve in the Limit of the Covenant in the Name JESU in JEHOVAH in divine hiddennesse or secresie in the seed of Adam and Eve without humane substance and unmoveably in the promised seed till the End of the Limit there he moved himself in the womans seed 53. This High hitherto much repeated Speech concerning the Triune Womans Seed before Christs Humanity is much more a Confusion than an Explanation the CHRIST in the womans seed was manifested in No Saint before Christs Birth but only in the Spirit of the Deity in a Prophetick manner and not in a Humane Manner 54. By the womans Seed is alwayes understood the Paradise which faded or disappeared in Adam viz the Heavenly corporeity from the pure Element and NOT the FOUR Elements this was manifest neither in Adam nor Abel till the Saviour CHRIST became manifest in this Seed 55. This Authour so wonderfully blends one in another that it hath no sufficient understanding one while he speaks of Faith that the Saints have had the womans seed manifested in the Faith then suddenly he speaks of the substance whereas in the Substance there was no manifestation or revelation in THEM but only in
world which giveth Life to all Creatures but in the Curse of the vanity viz in SINNE lyeth the Evill Child which Adam awakened and manifested 101. But what kinde of Whimseyes this Authour hath that He will not allow the Divine Tincturing and Transmutation to consist with the New Birth and contemneth and rejecteth ALL that it cannot be enough discerned why he giveth forth so altogether Blind and absurd Matters 102. He telleth us of a totall New strange Creature which is generated in CHRIST if that were so then we could not at all say that Christ had taken on himself our Flesh and Bloud Much lesse the Soul then also he might not at all be called The Womans Seed How should we then be partakers of him 103. Hath not Christ taken on him my Creature how then hath he in my Flesh slain Death and quenched the Anger of God but if he hath taken on him my Creature what kind of strange New Creature should enter into me 104. I know of no strange one It were directly contrary to the Article of the Resurrection of the Dead I must not speak of another Man of another Creature but of a TRANSMUTATION of the Course stone into Gold the unholy into pure holinesse 105. If that must be done then must the right Artist in ME Come viz the Holy Spirit with the divine Tincture which is Christs Bloud wherewith he brake in peeces the vanity of our Humanity and brought our right Life forth through Death 106. I must be Tinctured or else I cannot be Transmuted If Christ do not Tincture me with his Bloud then my HOLY Paradise-LIFE remaineth faded or disappeared in Death but if he doth Tincture ME then the Holy Spirit in me becometh stirring who CAN in Christs Flesh and Bloud Transmute ME according to the Inward Paradise-Man 107. God had not to do about a strange Creature in that he became Man but about that which in Adam he created in Paradise Job saith In this MY Flesh shall I see GOD and my Eyes shall see him and NOT anothers 108. My Own Essence of the INWARD Man is in this Life time tinctured and Transmuted and my OUTWARD Mortall Man is Tinctured with Christs Death to DYE and the MYSTERY of the outward Man viz the Fift Essence or QUINTESSENCE understand the Outward Spirit WITHOUT the Abomination wherein the Four Elements stand in Equall agreement in One Will and Substance is Tinctured for the Last release and Resurrection of the Dead which transmutation will be effected at the Last DAY 109. This Man Imageth or frameth a Phantasie in himself and Thinketh he is no more what he was his Nature is totally gone from him he is totally a New Creature inwardly and outwardly and that is totally false and groundlesse 110. His earthly Man is not Christs Bride in Gods holinesse but he is Christs Bride in Christs Death so farre as he is capable or partaker of that 111. But while he will needs be Perfect and cursorily passe over Christs Death and be already risen again in Christs Death he truly in the Self-hood goeth back with Christs Death into the 〈◊〉 112. I wish him from my Heart that his Body visibly were capable or partaker of Christs Death for in that I live in my self-hood I do not rejoyce but I rejoyce in this that I in my self-hood stand in CHRISTS Death and continually DYE 113. And I wish that I yet might totally dye to self-hood that my self-hood might be totally resigned up into God and I be only an Instrument or Tool of God and knew nothing more of my Self-hood 114. But that this Authour mentioneth that he is altogether dead to self-hood and is the Glorious Type of Christs Bride which God would manifest upon Earth in this Last Time totally inwardly and outwardly holy PERFECT without vanity blemish or Sinne we would readily allow him to be so if he would sufficiently assure us of it 115. But upon his supposititions insufficient groundlesse literall demonstration whereas yet he doth not understand How the Scripture speaketh we shall not be able to beleeve him unlesse we see the Paradise upon him and see that he is dead from the outward world and do use it no more 116. For no conceit availeth but Feeling by Experience and so 〈◊〉 all the while he liveth in the vanity and perplexeth himself in the vanity and is affected with strife we beleeve him NOT neither can we beleeve him in regard of Christs word which warneth us that we should beware of those that give forth themselves to be CHRIST 117. And if one did go about in doing Miracles and did live still in the vanity in Evill and Good yet then we must say that he is a Mortall Man even though he were inwardly holy and New-born in CHRIST 118. The Golden Mountain which he promiseth in this Tabernacle the old Adam might or would readily allow and put on if it were possible and that God would do so with us 119. Also we would very heartily esteem him for the Type and the first born of the Adamicall Bodyes if it were he that could manifest or perform so great a promise upon OUR Mortall Bodies or if he could but manifest it on HIS own 120. But that he saith we can not see it on him we should beleeve it none can assure us of it I cannot beleeve him unlesse he assure me of it that I may conceive it is true else I take it to be an Imagination 121. What the Spirit of GOD signifieth concerning the Last Sion hath another A. B. C. we understand it NOT to be with clarified Transfigured or Glorified Bodies wherein the vanity shall be totally Dead but concerning the Fall of Babel and that the end belongeth to the Beginning NOT the Two Tinctures turned into One according to the OUTWARD Man but we understand Eve in the REPENTANCE and in the simplicity for the evill Lust or Longing which SHE had 122. His marriage State or City which he supposeth to be is only an Eve his SION is a Vale of Misery in Care Toyle Labour and Necessity For Winter and Summer Day and Night Seed time and Harvest shall not cease as was said to Noah till the Great and Terrible DAY of the Lord shall COME 123. Also thus the Mountain of God viz SION is in the whole world where there be honest vertuous people that fear and Love God HE himself is IN the Honest Men the marriage City of GOD must be in MAN as also the Temple of CHRIST where the HOLY SPIRIT teacheth 124. We need no conceit nor running up and down the City of Gods Habitation IS every where where honest Men are together as Christ saith Where TWO or THREE are met together in My Name there am I in the midst amongst them 125. But seeing he speaketh of a visible holy Seed and woman of Christ and will have that to