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A96398	The Quakers no deceivers, or, The management of an unjust charge against them confuted. Being a brief return to a pamphlet, intituled, The Quakers proved deceivers ... by John Horne ... / by one who is counted a deceiver, yet true, George Whitehead.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1660 (1660)	Wing W1948; ESTC R223010	28,303	43

THE QUAKERS NO Deceivers Or the Management of an unjust Charge against them Confuted BEING A BRIEF RETURN to a Pamphlet Intituled The Quakers Proved Deceivers and such as the People ought not to listen to or follow but to account Accursed in the Management of a Charge given out against them to that effect By John Horne who calls Himself Preacher of the Gospel at South-Lin in Norfolke who is a chief Teacher among the People called Mooreans or Universalists Who hath given forth a pretended and imperfect Relation of a Discourse which was between him and George Whitehead in the Chancel of South-Lin wherin he hath falsely made his boast how that he made good his said Charge against G.W. before some Hundreds of people but many unprejudiced persons who heard the Discourse between them can witnesse against the said I.H. as a vain Boaster in his Pride of a Victory where he had it not And herein i● the said J. Ho●ne proved to be such a one as he hath falsely charged the Quak●rs proved to be and ●is false Doctrines touching several things of much Concernment Discovere● and his slanders and perverting the Truth reproved and the Truth of God cleared For the Information of the People called Universalists and other Professors and People See PSAL. 7.14 15. By one who is counted a Deceiver yet true George Whitehead LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black-Spread-Eagle near the West-end of Pauls 1660. ●Lessed are they that are not offended at the truth 〈…〉 ●bide in the love of it as it is made manifest 〈…〉 who live in the life and power of God 〈…〉 ●●i●h fathomes over and comprehends the sub 〈…〉 S●rpent which greatly appears these our d●y●● 〈…〉 the seed of God and the wisdoms and power of G●● b●ing manifest in a large measure in his Servants which gives them dominion in the life and innocency to reign over the haters of the truth and wisdom to discover all their subtilty and crafts this is their torment and vexation and the more they strive against the truth which we are in the more they are drowned in their confusion and overwhelmed in their darkness Therefore let us whom the Lord hath called into his work go on in the name and power of our God with boldness and confidence in him in this day of the Lambs battel for the Lord is with us and it is in his strength that we are made able to tread over our enemies and to trample over all their malignity and deceits which they appear in against the truth of our God which is dear unto us and after many contests and much opposition which we have passed thorow and met with from the deceivers of many sorts in this age who are of the Dragons Armie who like their Leader are wroth with the seed of the Woman which keeps the Commands of God I have of late time met with one Iohn Horn one of the same Army who hath shewed his rage and madness as much against the truth both in his Books and Papers as any that ever I met with and his torment being begun his rage and malice is the greater notwithstanding by many he is had in reputation and set up beyond the Priests of the Nation but hath foamed out his shame more then many of them The occasion of my last disputing with him on the 13 day of the 11th moneth 59 was his posting up many Papers publikely in Lin wherein he charged the Quakers to be Deceivers and such as the people ought not to hear or follow but to account accursed and said that he should be ready to make it good as and when thereto lawfully called Upon which I several times for the Truth sake sent to him to come forth in publike before I could get him so out for he would have had us met at his house or at a friends house of his which was not convenient for such a meeting as was to be but at length he proffered to meet me in the Chancel in the Steeple house end where we met and after I had heard him speak a pretty time against us and had some liberty to answer to some of the chief things he objected against us we had some discourse about several weighty things as freedom from sin ●nd the new-born state the redemption of the body and the coming of Christ and the cheif thing I. H. drove at was to make people beleeve That there is no man living upon earth that sinneth not or that could be perfectly freed from sin in this life and that the Proph●●s and Apostles had sin in them so long as they l●ved and so he made War for his Fathers Kingdome which is upheld by sin as much as he could as the rest of the deceivers chiefly do and in the power of the Lord I speake in Vindication of the truth to clear it from his false aspersions and slanders as much as I might have liberty to for I. H. and some of his Company were very uncivil towards me in many of them clam●uring at once against me but the Lord appeared with me and his truth which then reached his witness in the Consciences of many and many heard me with soberness which as appears was a grief to my adversary and as is probable was some cause of his publishing an imperfect Relation of the dispute in Print to render me and the truth odious and in his pride to make people beleeve he had gotten the victory or maistery touching which his vain boasting and deceit is hereafter discovered and the Truth cleared And now from sufficient grounds and tryal I affirm and can through the strength of God make good these things against the said J. Horn and charge them against him as followeth c. 1. That he is out of the life and steps of the true Ministers and in the steps and practises of Deceivers and so is a Hypocrite and no Minister of Christ who being a Parish-priest is guilty of the Priests iniquity in many things whom he hath declared against 2. That he upholds a dead and formal Worship like the World whereunto people are not called by the Spirit of truth for it is not the true Worship so that he keeps people from the life of God his Ministry being both dead formal and corrupt 3. That his Ministry vvherein he contends for sin pleading that none can be perfectly free from it in this life is Antichristian and both against the commands promises and works of God and tends to the making both the preaching and praying of Christ and the Saints ineffectual 4. And that he the said I. H. like a cholerick envious man against the truth of God and his people is a forger of lies a false acc●●●● a slanderer and so is one of the Dragons Army who was wroth with the woman that brought forth the man childe and the remnant of her seed that kept the commands of God These 〈◊〉 last charges against him are hereafter

proved in 〈◊〉 Treatise and the rest with them am I willing to pro●● and make good to his face in publike where I may be heard either in the Market place Steeple-house or our meeting place in Lin or at some other publike place in the Country that way if thereunto I be lawfully called and have an opportunity that way that the Lord make way for me to it and if I. H. will upon that account meet me through the strength of God I am free to do it as he makes way for the Truth sake and their sakes who would knovv it The Management of an unjust Charge against the Quakers Confuted AFter that the said John Horn the Priest hath laid down these words viz. People I am come hither to make good a charge formerly laid by me against the people called Quakers viz. To prove them to be deceivers and such as people ought not to hear or follow but to account them accursed and for proof that there are such he brings Gal. 1.8 9. And then he saith in these words viz. I shall pitch upon two heads of trialls 1. Touching the manner of the coming of the true Prophets and Apostles in the way of their doctrine And 2. The matter delivered by them therein for the manner of their coming I shall note 1. That true the Apostles and Prophets of God and Christ always use to come with abasements of themselves in the presence of God and with exalting and lifting up God and Christ they use to confess themselves sinners to be weak and brutish in themselves as of themselves never any of them used to vaunte themselves or speak of themselves or one another as sinless but alwaies abase themselves and glorifie the Lord they therefore that come otherwise preaching themselves sinless and perfect and much more that vilifie and Reproach others for confesing sin these have not the badges of the true Prophets and Apostles by this we may discover this people called Quakers he saith and afterward hath charged us for not coming as the true Prophets and Apostles and then he brings severall Scriptures to prove that the Holy men of God use to own themselves to have sin in them or to confess sin as Psal 19.12 and 38.16 and 143.2 and 1 King 8.46 Eccles 7.20 Pro. 30.2 3. Isa 6.3 4 5 6.7 1 Joh. 1.9 Isa 65.5 and Chap. 59.10 11 12 13. and Isa 64.6 and Jer. 14 7 8 9.20 21. and Dan. 9.22 and Mat. 3.14 Rom 7.17.20 1 Tim. 1.15 James 3.9 1. Job 2.1 2. To which I Reply in all which John Horn hath proved nothing against us called Quakers nor made it appear that we come not abasing o●● 〈◊〉 as the true Prophets and Apostles did for we own their confessing sin and have confessed ours to the Lord as they did and are come to deny our selves and sins but the Holy men of God were not alwaies confessing their sins as the Priests are who make many confessions of their sins and never forsake them but plead for them and so their confessions are but feigned for its such as confess their sins and forsake them that shall find mercy Prov. 28.13 And this we witness and herein is Christ and his Righteousness exalted and not our selves and so all your feigned confessions and your feigned praying to be cleansed from your sins when still you continue in lin and plead for it to Remain in all men the tearm of life we deny knowing that such are out of the life and Spirit of the Prophets and Holy men of God who suffered the terrors of the Lord for sin and did confess and forsake their sins knowing the fear of the Lord which is to depart from iniquity which fear keeps the heart clean and such as live in it shall not depart from the Lord Ier. 32.40 But out of that state are you all shut who continue in sin pride and deceit and contend for it who thereby would make all the commands of God and his promises and works and the prayers of the Saints of none effect the end of all which is Righteousness and perfection and so Iohn Horn his charging us as being accursed and not to be heard will Return upon his own head as one who hath cursed where God hath blessed and brought an evill Report upon them that fear the Lord and he hath herein done no less sought to make people hate the judgement of God and then to he●r or follow it but to account the judgement of God accursed according to his own words for he and Thomas Moere have in their discovery acknowledged us called Quakers to be a heavy judgement of God that he ordered to them to punish them for their neglect of Christ the salvation of God and the truth of him so long abused by them and where he saith as that never any of the true Apostles and Prophets used to speak of themselves or one another as sinless this is false for the true Prophet said all his judgements were before me and as for his statutes I did not depart from them I was also upright before him and have kept my self from mine iniquity therefore the Lord hath Recompeused me according to my Righteousness according to my cleanness in his eye-sight 2 Sam 22 23. And the Lord hath promised that his people shall be all Righteous and clean from all their filthiness Isa 60.21 Ezek. 36 25. And these that John saw on mount Sion to which mount they were come the Apostles writ to in Heb. 12.22 23. who followed the Lamb whithersoever he went and such Reigned as Kings on the earth they were without fault before the throne of God Rev. 14.4 5. Chap. 5.10 And such could sing to the Lord a new song and exalt God which they that are in their iniquity and pleading for sin cannot sing nor exalt for they are enemies to the State of the new creature in Christ where all old things are past away all become new and so with the Spirit of life we see thorow the State wherein all are sinners into the State wherein all that come into Christ must be Righteous and so we have a cloud of witnesses and many true evidences for our Testimony that it is of God and what we hold is truth and all that own God must own us therein who are counted peceivers as the Saints were yet true John Horn in page 3. saith True it is he saith in 1 John 4.17 As he is so are we in this world he cannot mean in it we are without sin as he is because that is contrary to his own saying that if we say we have no sin we deceive our selves nor will it Reach to all things for then we might say as Christ is without a visible personall body in the world subject to aches and pains and mortality so are we too c. I Ans Here his deceit and perverting the Scripture is seen and though it cannot be said of I. H. and such as

them J.H. again saith Or is it not evident that our Saviour teacheth thus to pray till his Name be perfectly every where hallowed his Kingdom fully come and his Will perfectly done every where even in earth as in heaven which is not in this world saith he I answer Why should Christ teach his to pray that his Will may be perfectly done every where even in earth as it is in heaven if it be not in this World so to be done What darkness is this J. H. in and confusion And how hath he herein appeared against the end for which the Disciples of Christ prayed as he taught them who prayed that the Fathers Will might be done in Earth as in Heaven which this Priest hath denied to be in this World but Christs Testimony contradicts him for Christ saith What things soever ye desire when ye pray believe that ye receive them and ye shall have them Mark 11.23 24. And they desired the Will of God to be done in Earth as in Heaven where there is no sin J. H. saith But by adding the Prayer for daylie Bread and that before Prayer for forgiveness of their Trespasses doth he not imply that so long as men have need of Bread for their life they have also need to pray for pardon of and keeping from sin if then the quakers so called will say they have no sin in them let them manifest it in living without Bread or food and we may then it may be think there is ground to believe them that the Name of God is so hallowed his Kingdom so come and his will so done in them that they have no sin nor trespasses Answ Here J. H. hath shewed himself to be a scornful tempter and a blind unbeliever For Christ when upon earth did eat Bread and Food but that did not argue that he had sin and he hath left us an example that his steps should be followed who did not sin 1 Pet. 2 21 22. And how shall men pray for keeping from sin if they may not be kept from it according to J. H. his Words who also would make Christs praying of none effect if none may be kept from sin for Christ prayed to the Father that his children might be kept from the evil even in the World and be perfect in one as he and his Father were one John 17. And twhen some of the quakers have fasted certain dayes together as they were moved and as many of Gods People have done and been upheld in it by the Power of God some of this generation of tempters have slandered them as being in delusion or Witchcraft and one partaking of their iniquities is this Priest Horne and he saith that they may it may be think there is ground to believe us if we will live without bread or food It appears its but doubtful whether they 'l believe us or not if such a thing might be Thus J.H. thy folly and deceit is gone abroad Oh! gross darkness is thy Habitation J. H. saith Note whosoever is born of God sinneth not whosoever is perfectly born of God as the spirits of just men made perfect that is deceased they cannot sin nor the men when their spirits and bodies shall be re-united in the Resurrection but none are so perfectly born of God here Answ Oh what pitiful stuff is here to imagine that men are not perfectly born of God so as not to sin till they are deceased and when their spirits and bodies should be re-united in the Resurrection And this would make the work of God imperfect here when all his Works are perfect And what were these that were born of God in the Apostles dayes who the Apostle said could not sin some that were deceased and risen again having their bodies and spirits re-united then in the Resurrection according to what J.H. speaks Surely J. H. had I said as much as thou hast done herein thou might well have said that I undermine the hope of the Gospel and much more of thy confusion and lyes have I left unmentioned here And where J.H. saith that G.F. and G.W. uncivilly pos●●d him up as going away on purpose intending that they posted him up as going on purpose out of Lin to avoid disputing with them this is falshood For what we posted up had not those words in it but was a true Relation to certifie the people why we could not then have a publike meeting as we demanded neither with J.H. nor T.M. that they might not think that the canse of our not meeting with them at that time did lie upon our parts but upon theirs and this was occasioned by J.H. his many slanderous Papers which he posted up before wherein he charged the ●●●kers with being dec●ivers and accursed and in some of his Papers he promised to make that charge good as and when thereto lawfully called which he hath not yet done nor can do Some of J. H. his Doctrines and slanders against us are here again laid down which all that are sober-minded who read this may judge of and see that he hath not made them good against us One particular he urged and in effect affirmed was That the corruption which Paul groaned and waited for the redemption of the body from was the corruption of Mortality in which the body is in death when it is in corruption That the Prophets and Apostles had sin in them so long as they lived That the Scriptures never sayes Let not sin be in you That there is no man living that sinneth not Jesus Christ excepted That the Quakers are deceivers and such as the People ought not to hear but to account them accursed That they to wit the Quakers come not as the true Prophets and Apostles did viz. With abasements of themselves and lifting up God and Christ. That they subvert the Faith in saying that the knowledge of Christ that is to eternal salvation is the knowledge of him after the Spirit as he was before the world was That they deny the resurrection of the bodies of men That they deny Christ to have that body in heaven glorified in which he suffered and rose again That the Quakers say the coming of Christ in which he shall descend with a shout with the voice of the Arch-Angel and the Trump of God and when the dead in Christ shall be raised and the living believers be changed is over and past J.H. said he is not a dumb dog for he is able to tear and woory me and such Foxes Now these his charges against us called quakers which are but a few of his many slanders I return them back upon him and reject them as lyes and slandars and if he further assay to make them good I shall know further how to proceed against him as the Lord shall make way for I have much more of his confusion false doctrines and slanders which are not yet gone abroad which I have noted and are upon Record One thing more I note That the said J. Horne and T. Moore in a Paper against me say of us called quakers That we be indeed Vipers and Scorpions Cockatrices not to be charmed and like the Locusts out of the bottomless pit whose sting is in their Tales they say And yet these men that have thus reproached us have confessed that we are a heavy judgement that God hath ordered to them to punish them for their neglect of Christ the salvation of God and the Truth of him so long abused by them Novv from their ovvn confession they are such as have not the seal of God upon their foreheads for the Locusts were onely sent to punish these men that had not the seal of God upon their foreheads Rev. 94. Thus their malice and confusion is gone abroad who shall know one day that we are another manner of Judgement against them then the Locusts and the more they strive against the heavy Judgement that God hath ordered to punish them for the neglect of Christ and abusing of his Truth the greater will their shame and torment be And all People in whom there is a simplicity of Truth appearing and a desire stirring in you after life for your souls beware of the Leaven of these Deceivers and abusers of the Truth who are so contending and pleading for sinne whereby the Devils Kingdom is upheld and strengthened and his subjects encouraged in his service for the hand of the Lord is against them and God will assuredly confound and overthrow them their confusion and folly is already much gone abroad therefore feed not you upon their confusion nor upon their chaff dead words but come off from among these barren Mountains and heed the appearance of the Light of the Lord in you and feel it that you may come to the bread of Life and to feed upon the flesh of Christ which comes down from Heaven For the Lord is exalting his holy Mountain above all the barren Mountains that have lifted up themselves against him Blessed are they that come into the love of the Truth and wait in the Light of it in them whereby they may be undeceived and escape out of the snares of such ungodly men who make a prey upon souls The End