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A47193	The universall free grace of the Gospell asserted, or, The light of the glorious Gospell of Jesus Christ, shining forth universally, and enlightning every man that coms [sic] into the world, and therby giving unto every man, a day of visitation wherin it is possible for him to be saved, which is glad tydings unto all people, being witnessed and testifyed unto, by us the people called in derision Quakers : and in opposition to all denyers of it, of one sort and another proved by many infallible arguments, in the evidence and demonstration of the spirit of truth, according to Scripture testimonies and sound reason : with the objections of any seeming weight against it, answered it, answered / by George Keith.	Keith, George, 1639?-1716.; Furly, Benjamin, 1636-1714.	1671 (1671)	Wing K228; ESTC R13258	128,214	140

THE Universall free grace of the Gospell asserted OR THE LIGHT Of the Glorious Gospell of JESUS CHRIST Shining forth universally and enlightning every Man that coms into the World and therby giving unto every Man a day of visitation wherin it is possible for him to be saved Which is glad tydings unto all People BEING Witnessed and Testifyed unto by us the People called in derision Quakers And in opposition to all Denyers of it of one sort and another proved by many infallible arguments in the evidence and demonstration of the Spirit of Truth according to Scripture Testimonies and sound Reason With the objections of any seeming weight against it answered BY GEORGE KEITH Printed in the Year 1671. THE PREFACE THER be two maine and principall things held forth by us which are as it wer the two hinges and fundamentall principles upon which all other things relating either to Doctrins or Practises affirmed by us doe hang and depend The first is that ther is no saving knowledge of God or the things of his Kingdome attainable but by the Immediate revelation of Iesus Christ who is the Image Word and Light of the invisible God in which alone he can be manifest unto the Salvation of men The second is that this Image Word and Light which is Jesus Christ the Son of the Fathers love doth shine forth in some measure universally and enlighten every man that coms into the World and therby giveth unto him a day of visitation wherin it is possible for him to be saved Both which 〈◊〉 they are indeed in the truth are generally denyed but affirmed by us which two not withstanding I may truly say as they are indeed known and witnessed in the truth ar the cheife and principall veins and arteries which convey the very Blood Life and Spirit of the Christian Religion into the true members of that body wherof Jesus Christ is the head And the Lord hath made me plainly to see why the whole body of every Sect professing the Christian Religion up and downe the world is so leane barren dead and emptie of that Life and Spirit which becoms the true Church to have and which the true Church had in the Primitive times even becaus of their ignorance of and opposition unto these two blessed testimonies of truth and I may boldly say it never any society of people did flourish or ever shall or can with excellent induements of either piety or knowledge which denyeth these two testimonies of truth seing they are the very principall means and Ordinances of God which hee hath appointed as through conduits to convey both Pi●…y and knowledge and all other hevenly gifts and blessings unto men and seeing these are denyed the blessed effect which would follow upon the using of them cannot but be much wanting as where there is an obstruction or stop in the principall veins arteries and nervs of the naturall body that body cannot flourish but must needs be a very sick Paralitick diseased body and near unto death And for this cause it is that the whole body of Christendom so called is in a most lam●…table condition and death reigns in it and a thick cloud of darknes fills it and very few there be who know by sensible experience the life kernell and substance of the Christian Religion among all the many professions in it and that small remnant who doe know any thing thereof it is very weakly and faintly and their sight of the things of God is but like the poor blind mans halfe sight after Christ had a little cured him who saw men walking as trees the Reason of all this has beene the ignorance of and opposition unto these two testimonies aforsaid for the ignorance of the true manner of receiving either Piety or pious and Godly wisedome which is by way of immediat Revelation from the Father by Jesus Christ through the holy Spirit this hath hindred and stopped the growth and encrease of holines and piety and the Wisedome and knowledge there unto appertaining as to the Intension i. e. measur or degree of it in the particular which otherwise by this time might have been like the waters of the Sanctuary at a great height and againe the ignorance of that other blessed testimony of truth concerning the universality of the Light word Grace and spirit of God towards and upon all in a day of visitation for the saving and endueing them with holines and holy knowlegd and wisedom hath been a most mischeivous hindrance and lett unto the Extension or spreading of tru piety and knowledg abroad among people in the world The ignorance of the One I say hath hindred the Intension of it and the ignorance of the other its Extension as may be manifest to any who will consider these things wer it but with halfe an eye For what can tend so much to the universall gathering of all the nations Kingdoms languages and kinreds of the earth as to hold forth this universall principle unto them all the Light which lighteth all and every one of them and to informe them that therby and therthrough salvation is attainable by every one and peace reconciliation with God in their beleife of the light and obedience therunto And what can more hinder this universall gathering then that particular narrow straitning limiting principle of men of a pettish narrow heart and spirit who say that salvation never was is nor shall be possible unto the most part of men That God by an eternall decree hath wholly passed them by and left them in darknes without any light to shine in their darknes that can possibly at any time lead them out of it Doth not this discourage people and rather lay a block in the way of their Faith then to point ordirect them unto a pillar and ground of it Yea doth not this Doctrine that other being added to it viz. that immediate Revelation is ceased lay a much more probable foundation for any mans unbeleif and distrust in the Lords mercy and willingnes to save him then for his faith therupon For when any man comes with a call unto them to beleiv that they may be saved and therwithall tells them that God hath left most men without providing them any power by which it is possible for them to beleiv may not all begin to doubt or question with more ground then to beleive whether they be the persons that are thus passed by of the Lord yea or nay When the Lord said but to his disciples one of you shall betray me they wer exceeding sorrowfull all of them and began 〈◊〉 Question Master is it I. How much more then occasion have they to be sorrowfull and to question the very mercy of God for their salvation if it be told them that this mercy is denyed not only to a few but most of men and to many under the visible profession of the Christian Religion And for asmuch as they say immediate Revelation is ceased this shuts

out all from receiving any knowledge from God himselfe whether they belong to that number that is absolutely rejected yea or nay Weigh and consider these things Oh all people and be awakened and roused up out of your slumberings in which your teachers have lulled you that you may once at last perceive these blind guides who deny the Light that is universall and whether they are leading you even into a very pitt of darknes and impiety while they tell you God hath not given to every one of you nay nor to any one of you who may be in a naturall state any thing through which it is possible for you to come out of that darknes and death in which you lye sure when you shall come to any Nobility of understanding you will find that though your teachers say the Quakers teach pernicions principles unto the Nation that indeed wee bring glad tydings unto it Whose principles in the twofold testimony aforsaid as they come to be received and beleived by the Nation will make it a happy and blessed Nation which is now miserable becaus of that ignorance and iniquity that abounds in it By the true faith and beleif of these two principles the nation that is now as a barren wildernes as to fruits of righteousnes would become as the garden and Paradice of God The glory of Lebanon and excellency of Carmell would be given unto it and it would become a married land and nation unto the Lord and so would all other nations through the true beleif and faith of this twofold testimony which hath long beene suppressed and warred against and the few witnesses there of by the Dragon and his followers so that the two witnesses have been slain for three long dayes and a half in asmuch as beside other accounts that this twofold testimony hath not lived and flourished in and among them but hath been always knocked down and slain through the deceit and violenc of earthly minded men who have hated the tru life of Christ and yet for their earthly and selfish ends have made use of the form and words of it which without the life and spirit of Christ is but a dead carcas and as it wer the dead bodies of the slain witnesses which have lain in the streets of Sodom and Egypt spiritually so called that is to say of the fals and Antichristian Sinagogue Babylon the Mother of fornications with her daughters as all th●…se are howmuch soever pretending to a Reformation who are not yet come to witnes the true Light Power and spirit of the Gospell to work in them both the will and the deed Now these Marchants of Babylon and bloody Butchers and Murderers of the two witnesses and testimonies of God have traded and made their merchandise of these dead bodies viz. the words and forms of truth after they had slain the life that appeared therein and murdered Gods faithfull Saints who held forth the living testimony of truth and sold them in the streets or market places of the false Church as ever the Butchers doe their flesh in the shambles in the streets of market Towns Cities and Villages Well! the judgement of this great whore is com and is truly begun The spirit of life from God is entred into the two slain witnesses and shall yet more abundantly enter to the affrighting and allaruming all that dwell upon the earth and truly in nothing more can wee rickon upon the raising of the witnesses then in that the Lord God almighty hath raised this twofold testimony that hath been so much opposed and resisted even by them who made a trade of the words which witnesse ther unto and made it to appear and shine forth in great Glory Power and Beauty and raised up many to witnes therefor and thereunto which no deceit nor violence of men or principalities and powers of darknes shall ever any more be able to prevail against This twofold testimony and the witnesses theirof shall prophocy and that not in sackcloth and weaknes as formerly but in their beautifull garments in power glory and dominion to the staining the glory of all flesh and bringing down the pride thereof that the Lord alone and his truth may be exalted Now unto the one of these two testimonies Viz. that of immediate Revelation a large testimony from the Lord hath been given me to bear and somewhat is published on that Subject for the generall service of truth And also as to this other I find it with me to give testimony thereunto and with others of my Dear Freinds in the truth to leave a publick standing Record and testimony unto the truth hereof in opposion to all denyers of it And becaus that many of our adversaries som through ignorance and others through malice prejudice alledge that this our principle concerning the Light c. it s being universally saving as to its nature is the very same which the Papists and Arminians hold who maintaine universall grace therfor I find it fitt to clear this matter for the undeceiving the simple for indeed though the Arminians and Papists also speake of universall grace as given and offred unto all yet the thing is self which is the universall grace as to what it is indeed and in truth and in true manner and way of its operation they both deny and oppose it for asmuch as they both deny that the universall light which is given unto all it the light evangelicall or a light for the faith of the Gospell to rest in therfor they doe not hold it forth as the immediat object of the Christian saith Secondly they deny the way and manner of its operation to be by immediate Revelation Thirdly they say this light coms from Christ but Christ himselfe is not in man in the true seed of Regeneration yea and the tru and reall indwelling of Christ in the divine seed and birth in the very Saints they generally deny as also that this divine seed and birth is a reall substance or that the divine life is substantiall or subsisteth in any substantiall principle of its owne nature and so I say truly that both Arminians and Papists deny the true universall grace as to what it is indeed and as to the true way of its operation and therfor may be justly putt in the roll with others as unskilfull Physicians through their ignorance of and opposition unto this universall medicine and cure which hath truly the vertu to cure all men and all diseases of men and is administred of the Lord unto all wherby it is possible for them to be cured But not withstanding the great cloud of darknes and ignorance which hath been generally over the understandings of people it is to be acknowledged that through the infinite mercy of God som among one and another both Papists and Protestants so called have received som tasts therof and been partakers of its vertu wherby their souls have lived unto God in som measur but under

that hee appeared in them when unbeleevers and turned them therefrom to beleeve in himself but many resist the operation of Christ in them and so remaine in unbeleef Argument 8. From a Collation of divers Scriptures in the OldTestament so called answering to those above cited out of the writings of the Evangelists and Apostles holding forth the self-same thing as Deuteronomy 4. 29. 30. Amos 4. 13. Provs 1. 21. 22. 23. Genes 6. 3. Deut. 30. 14. 32. 43. Job 24. 13. 28. 12. Psal. 2. 12. 98. 2. 117. Prov. 8. 1. 9. 1. Isai. 49. 6. Deuter. 4. 29. 30. But if from thence thou shalt seek the Lord thy God thou shalt find him if thou seek him in all thy heart and in all thy soule And if thou turn to the Lord thy God and hearken in his voice THE words being thus truly rendered as they are word for word in the Hebrew do most plainly hold forth that God is in the wicked and unbeleevers that have forgot him days without number as the Prophet saith concerning Israel Apostate of whom Moses spake these words who had forgotten God and his Covenant made graven images and likenesses worshipping the works of mens hands and serving other Gods for which God was provoked to scatter them among the Heathen Yet to this people thus Apostatized from and punished by God scattered from God in the heathenish imaginations of their hearts doth Moses say If they shall from hence even from hence seek the Lord aright where he is to be found that is in their whole heart and in their whole soule and turn to him which presupposeth his being there to be turned to and hearken in his voyce which necessarily argues his in-speaking to be hearkned to they shall surely find him Is it not hence evident that the Reason why so many that have sought God affectionatly and zealously without in their self-Righteous acts performances Applications of promises c. have not found him is because they have not sought him where he is even within as Augustine the great Antient Father of the Church so called lamenteth his mispent time and paines in so seeking saying I sought thee o God and sound thee not because I sought thee without and thou wert within I was abroad from thee and thou wert within me yea more inwardly within me then my most inward parts Thus may many a one say now and smite upon their heart and turn to the Lord and seek him in their whole heart and in their whole soule Had the Translators been but more inwardly minded and knowne the manifestation of the spirit of God in their inward parts to have given them a sence of the mind of the spirit in the words of Scripture how might they have been instrumentall to have directed peoples minds where they were to wayt for seek and turn to God as well as to inform them that they must seek him but they spake or translated according to the misty understanding they had and so have by their defective translations cast a vaile of thick darknes upon the Scriptures in many places as may in due time God assisting be shewn at large where of some instances may be given at the end of this Treatise The day is now dawned and the light broken forth and the vayle of thick darkness that hath been over the Tabernacle of God is rent and rending and he hath discovered his habitation where he will be found and his Temple where he will be worshipped and honoured to be even in the hearts and soules of men and women where he hath been lost and how But by their minds being extroverted and averted from him and converted to perishing objects that perish with the using by which the Lord hath been forgotten even days without number and is become a stranger in the earth to men and Women and they estranged from the life of God although they live move have their being in it Even in Christ the Word and Power and Wisdome of God which Proverb 1. 20. 21. 22. 23. Lifteth up her voice in the streets and crieth in the chief places of concourse in the openings of the gates of the City which is the heart of man where the throng and press of thoughts pass to and fro saying How long ye simple ones will ye love simplicity and scorners delight in scorning and fooles hate knowledge What more plain from hence then that Christ who is the eternall Word and Wisdome of the Father lifteth up his voice unto all men even to the simple ones that love simplicity to the Scorners that delight in scorning to fooles that hate knowledge and worse cannot be found unbeleevers unbeleevers with a witnesse and wherefore doth she this to what purpose what doth she intend by and in this her visitation and cry unto them onely to boast her self against them onely in scorne to upbraid them onely tauntingly to triumph over them onely to harden them that she might destroy them onely to aggravate their sins that she might increase their damnation Nay Nay surely Nay for wisedome as a certain writer saith is a holy spirit living cleare undesiled plain not subject to hurt loving the thing that is good ' ready TO DOE GOOD AND KIND TO MAN preventing them that desire her in making her self first knowne unto them that so they may seek her for unless she prevents all mankind first and cals unto them and makes her self first known unto them they cannot desire nor seeke her but when she lifteth up her voice if they hearken and then they may they shall have no great travell saith this Author for they shall find her sitting at their DOORES to think upon her saith he is perfection of wisedome for she goeth about seeking such as are worthy of her sheweth her self favourably unto them IN THE WAYES and meeteth them IN EVERY THOUGHT Lo here is a description of wisdome of THE DOORES of THE GATES of THE WAYS the STREETS in which she lifteth up her voice and to what end with what good purpose intent and meaning towards man this is consonant to the testimony which Solomon himself gives of her in her calling upon and crying out to these simple scornefull fooles to wit that they may turn turn to what to her at her reproofs and to what purpose that they may grow wise through the out-powrings of the spirit of wisedome upon them For lo this is her counsell to them having reproved them for their folly and expostulated with them about it Turne you at my reproofe and this is her promise if they do Behold I will powre out my spirit the spirit of wisdome upon you And did she give them this Counsell and not heartily and unfainedly desire that they might receive it and did she promise this and not truly and really intend and resolve to perform it what did she onely mock onely dissemble onely pretend a great deale of good will and intend a great

deale of yea nought elce but ill-will destruction yet thus malicious do the crooked conceits of some men render Wisedome but I had rather beleeve the Testimony which the Apocrypha givs of wisedome That she is not subject to hurt ready to do good and kind to man sted fast and sure the very breath of the power of God a pure streame flowing from the glory of the Almighty into which therefore no such defiled thing as cruelty or dissimulation can fall And this I am sure is most agreeing to the Testimony which the Evangelists and Apostles give of Christ that he came not to do hurt to any but good to all not to condemne primarily but to save So let every man mind that which convinceth him of his folly in secret expostulats with him about it saying how long wilt thou love this evill way of thy owne heart and lovingly adviseth him kindly woeth him to turn at the Reproofs of instruction if he intends to get in to the way of life or witness the out-pourings of the spirit of wisdome upon him Consonant to this is Amos. 4. 13. Loe he that formeth the mountains and createth the wind or the spirit and declareth unto Man what is this thought c. The Lord the God of Hosts is his Name He that created the spirit for so the Hebrew word also signifies and so the Septuagint renders it the spirit of man the same upholdeth it to this day dwelleth within it in his owne divine seed and principle and in it it is that Man lives and moves and hath his being This is he who sheweth unto Man unto Man indefinitly that is to Mankind to every Man his thought what it is what his heart soule mind spirit runs out after and the Lord God of Hosts saith the Prophet is his Name Now the thoughts of man are within him hid from every eye save that which is so inwardly present every where that all things are naked and bare before him and the thoughts being thus within can not be shewne unto man but by an inward conviction even there where his thoughts are and he that doth thus convince man within of that which is within must be within and there exercise and manifest his convincing power and every man that cometh into the world having that in him that thus sheweth him his thoughts as there is no man that lives that hath it not and the Prophet asserting that he which doth thus shew unto Man his thoughts is no other then God himself the Lord God of Hosts who created Man and his spirit out of which his thoughts arise and consequently knoweth them all It doth most necessarily follow that this God who searcheth the heart and tryeth the reines is in every man that cometh into the world This is so cleare and consequentiall that no reasonable Man that considereth it in an un-prejudicate mind can deny it But this Doctrine is further confirmed by God himself 6. Genesis 3. My spirit shall not always strive judge plead or contend in man for that he is flesh c. Thus is it in the Hebrew and thus it ought to be rendred rather then with Man and it being so what 's more plain from these words of God himself concerning the wicked old world Then first that even to this unbeleiving ungodly generation who by their impenitency had provoked God to repent that ever he had made man and to resolve now to cut of mankind He God had first given them a day of visitation in which he did strive plead and contend with them by his spirit in them before he gave them up to destruction And secondly which naturally flowes from this that that which strives and judges for God in Man and pleads Gods righteous cause with man in the secret of his heart and conscience is not a bare meere naturall light as the dark dreaming Divines of our days do say which can not save but onely condemne destroy and leave without excuse But is the very salutiferous spirit of God himself which created man and alone hath power to save or destroy him as he answereth the long-sufferance and goodness of God which the Apostle saith leads to Repentance or despiseth it and sets it at naught But as plaine as this Testimony of God himself is in the case yet because it thwarts the preconceived opinion of these men and overturns the whole fabrick of their Divinity and Analogy of their faith so called it must not be suffered to passe under a double vayle First of an ambiguous translation of the words Secondly of a misty meaning put upon the words so ambiguously translated on purpose to make way for it viz. That God did not strive with this ungodly world by his spirit in themselvs but onely by the ministry and preaching of Noah And for both these they have their somewhat-to-say First as to their translation they say The Hebrew language is concise and so by one word in it many words in other languages are often times expressed and that particularly this word by me precisely rendred in signifies also with from among by and sometimes into Answer The Hebrew language is not so concise but that it hath proper words for every one of those English words and in the Greek and Latin languages how copious soever they be the same Word hath divers significations yet it follows not but that both in those languages and in the Hebrew these words have their most naturall and proper signification which must be kept to unless some weighty Reason requires an other word to be used so that as to the traslation this is First plaine from their owne concession that the word doth signify in as well as with in the Hebrew language and so I have as much ground from the Hebrew to render it in as they can have to render it with And Secondly I do assert and any man that is but a little skild in the Hebrew Grammar knows that in is the very proper most naturall signification of the word and consequently if the sence doth not command another word to be used as it doth not here in is to be kept to although with be as good grammaticall sence and as proper a word if it were not ambiguous to express the mind of the spirit of God by in this place for when the Lord striveth in any man by his spirit he striveth with him But becaus with seems to leave some scope for their gloomy glosse That God onely strove with them outwardly therefore in which puts it out of all controversy that the spirit of God strove with them in themselvs is to be kept to in being as much the proper signification of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in Hebrew as it is of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in Greeke or of in in Latin when the sence doth not necessarily require another word And thus the Septuagint The Vulgar and Interlineary Versions whose opinions in Religion did not sway

reprovs the Devills for sin works not in them savingly therefore that which reprovs men for sin doth not work savingly in them which followeth not at all For Devills and men are of different kinds and the way of the Lord towards them differing in kind For though it be the same Spirit of God and Christ which reproveth Divels and men yet in the way or manner thereof is great difference For the Devills he reproveth onely in wrath without any mixture of love and mercy and therefore we never read that he calleth upon them to repent and turn as he doth upon men or mankind Nor do we affirm that which reproves men for sin to work for their salvation Viz. onely because it reprovs them but because it so reproves them i. e. in a way of gentleness tenderness mercy not onely reprovs but calls moves draws allures strives with o●… leads them to repentance as Peter saith waiting with long-sufferance as in the days of Noah as is already largely proved Object 23 But mans own nature as corrupt as it is teacheth him some things as the Apostle saith doth not even nature it self teach you Nature teaches a man not to defile himself with abeast or with mankind so that bestiality sodomy c. are sins against the very nature of man though corrupt Answ. True it is the nature of man though corrupt teacheth him some things yet so as but naturally and there are some things so bad that the very nature of man abhorreth them as bestiality sodomy c. being against nature But it is most certain both from Scripture and universall experience there is a more high and Noble principle in man then that of his own Nature even universally which reproveth men not onely for those grosse and abominable sins but for other things which mans corrupt nature not onely reprovs him not for but prompts and inclines him to And besides though man in his own thoughts and reasonings may prove himself guilty in divers things after a sort convince reprove himself therefore in and by his own thoughts and reasonings yet there is still a principle in man which over and beyond all his own thoughts and reasonings doth convince him of evil and reprove him for it and this most manifestly of all in the deepest silence of a mans own thoughts and reasonings neither is there any man living but may observ a manifest difference betwixt those convictions and reproofs which proceed from the Light and Spirit of God and Christ in his own seed and those that proceed onely from a mans owne naturall Spirit in his own thoughts and reasonings For when the Spirit of God and Christ reproveth and convinceth a man he doth it livingly and in such power that it pricketh the heart and worketh in it as a fire hammer or sword whereas the naturall Spirit of man doth it but in a dead and cold manner And though this be the way of many to work convictions upon themselvs meerly by and through their own naturall Spirit in their thoughts and reasonings and hammerings there with upon their hearts calling in the ayd and help of the Letter of the Scriptures for that effect yet they do not proffit themselvs in so doing but indeed do greatly hurt themselvs For this is all but the sparks of their own kindling and their own works which they should cease from which if they did they would in that cessation and stilness find the Light and Spirit of Christ as their minds are turned towards it to work mightily in them the tru and reall convictions for sin which tend to work tru contrition and tenderness of heart towards God and the tru and godly repentance never to be repented of And so if the Spirit of the Lord make use of the Scripture testimonies in bearing in convictions of guilt upon the soule they are very usefull which otherwise as used meerly by mans own naturall Spirit are but a killing letter Object 24. It s said the Lord gave his Laws unto Iacob and his statuts unto Israell but that he had not dealt so with every nation therefore every nation hath not that in them which would teach them his Laws and statuts It is also said in Iudah is God knowne therefore not in other places Answ. I deny these wild consequences For though the Lord dealt not so with other nations as with Jacob Israell and Judah as to the outward Laws statutes and outward occasions afforded them of knowledge c. Yet he left not the other nations destitute of the main and principall thing even the manifestation of the light and Spirit of his Son in their hearts and consciences which would have given them the knowledge of God and of all his Laws and statuts needfull to be known by them had they improved the same aright And those that did improve it did both know the Lord and his Laws and were justified through faith in him who outwardly were neither of Jacob Israell nor Judah but Gentiles in other Nations as hath been shewed and seing it hath been so in times past why may it not be so now Object 25. If the Light wherewith Christ hath inlightned every man be sufficient unto salvation then the coming of Christ in the outward with his obedience sufferings and death were in vaine Answ. This is also a false and senceless consequence grounded upon a meer mistake as if the sufficiency of the Light and Grace of Christ within did make void the use and benefit of his outward coming obedience death and sufferings or were to be set in opposition thereunto which is utterly false for they are not to be set in opposition to each other as if the one did hinder the sufficiency or usefullness of the other both being sufficient and usefull and necessary each in their own kind and way consummating and being consummated in one another Besides this Objection lyes as much against the Scriptures For either the manifestation of God to the children of men before the Scriptures or any part of them were written was sufficient unto salvation or it was not If it were not no man before the Scriptures living could be saved If it were then was the giving of the Scriptures by this Argument in vain a superfluous and useless thing Object 26. But if the Light within be sufficient to teach and give the knowledge of God unto salvation then the Scriptures are in vain and it is in vaine to make use of outward teachings by men or books or any outward means what soever Answ. The vanity and unreasonableness of this consequence I have already shewn above and so need say the less to it here Indeed the plain contrary is the truest and most ingenuous consequence Viz that because the Light within is sufficient therefore the teachings of men and books are proffitable which can only proffit as in the Light they are received and made use of and from the Light do proceed And therefore all men who

that are to come but we must not limit the Lord so as to have this accomplished in our time but patiently wait the Lords season Object 30. If that Light which was in the Gentiles had been of an Evangelicall nature as you say it is then it would have taught them Evangelicall precepts Viz. to love enemyes bear injuries without revenge overcome evill with good c. which are things which no humane light reason or naturall faculty of man can teach much less bring any man to the practice of Answ. It doth appeare that many of the Gentiles who had not the Scriptures did not onely teach these Doctrines but also in a large measure practise them patiently suffering injuries not onely without revenge but shewing love meekness and rendring good for evill Seing then that this objection ingenuously grants that no naturall power of man could teach or lead to these practises evident it is that that in them which taught and enabled them to obey the truth in these things was supernaturall and Evangelicall G. K. POSTSCRIPT AND because some through ignorance in History have presumed to affirm that none of the Heathens so called knew or practised such things for the conviction of them and a generall service to the truth we shall here alledge some remarkable examples to evince the truth of what is affirmed in those particulars which made Aristotle in his Ethicks lib. 10. chap. 4. 7. say they that did these things did them not as men but as having some thing divine or of God in them Not then to quote at large the Noble Testimony given by Palladius Ambrosius and others concerning Dindimus King of the Brachmans as they are at large published in Latine and Greek and printed in London by T. Raicroft 1668. intituled Palladius de Gentibus Indiae Bragmanibus S. Ambrosius de moribus Brachmanorum Anonymus de Brachmanibus As also another in the high Dutch language inittuled Historie von dem grossen Konig Alexander c. Yerzo auffs new aus der alten Ceutschen sprache in druck gebracht Printed anno 1642. All which do relate the excellent and Christian Evangelicall lessons given by the said Dindimus to Alexander who sent Ambassadors to him to require him to come to him promising him great rewards if he did losse of his head if he did not this in the Name of Alexander the King of all men Son of the great God Jupiter But Dindimus smiling at this Vapour and not moving his head from the leavs he lay upon answered God the great King never begot injury but light peace life the water body and soules which he also receivs when they have finished their course nor was he ever the author of lust This is my Lord and onely God who as he hates murther so he wageth not war c. And a little further he saith The things that I seek I easily attaine to those things which I regard not I am not to be driven to If therefore Alexander take my head he shall not destroy my soule which will return to the Lord while the body which was taken out of the earth shall therunto return For I being made a Spirit shall ascend unto my God who included us in the flesh and placed us upon this earth to try us whether we being gone forth from him would live unto him as he hath commanded who demands an account of those that depart for he is a judge of all injuries and the sighs of those that are injuriously treated become the pains of those that injure them Let Alexander then threaten those that love silver and gold and feare death neither of which hath place among the Brachmans who do neither feare the one nor love the other Go therefore and tell Alexander Dindimus wants him not and if he wants Dindimus let him come to him Which being reported to Alexander he was the more desirous to see that single old man that could conquer him after he had conquered so many Nations And so coming to him said I come to heare a word of wisedome from thee whom I hear dost converse with God To whom Dindimus replyed Very willingly would I administer to thee the words of the wisedom of God hadst thou but place in thy mind to receive the gift of god administred But thy mind being filled with various lusts insatiable avarice and a devilish desire to rule which fights against me and my designe of drawing thee off from destroying Nations and shedding humane blood is in all things contrary to the wisedome by which I and the Brachmans are led who worshipp God love men contemne gold despise death and slight pleasures whereas Alexander and his feare death love gold covet pleasure hate men and despise God adding how can I speak unto thee the words of the wisedome of God whose cogitations are so filled with pomp ostentation and inordinate lusts that a whole world is not able to satiate thee however he refused not to give him that councell which Alexander was as he confessed convinced in his heart was good but could not follow Viz. to cease warring against men without engage himself in another warfare against the enemies within himself his lusts his affections his desires if he desired to be rich indeed and to be a true Victor assuring him that all his power all his hosts all his Riches all his Pomp would at last not availe him any thing But saith he if thou wilt hearken to my words thou shalt possess of my goods who have God to my friend whose inspiration I injoy within me Thus thou shalt overcome lust the mother of penury which never obtains what it seeks Thus thou shalt with us honour thy self by becoming such as God had created thee Adding though thou slay me for telling thee these proffitable things I feare not For saith he I shall return to my God which created all things who knows my cause and before whom nothing is hidden I know not saith he whether thou shalt be so happy as to find thy self perswaded by my words but I assure thee if thou be not when thou art departed hence I shall see thee punished for thy actions heare thee lament with deep and sharp sighs the misery thou hast put many to c. Viz. when thou shalt have no other companion then the memory of the evills thou hast heaped up upon thy self For saith he I know the pains justly inflicted by God upon unjust men Then thou shalt say unto me Dandamis how good a counseller wert thou to me c. These things Alexander heard as t is said of Herod concerning John the Baptist not onely without wroth but with a placid countenance replyed O Dandamis thou true teacher of the Brachmans I have found thee the most excellent amongst men by reason of the Spirit that is in thee I know all that thou hast spoken is true God hath brought thee forth and sent thee into this place