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A32753 Gods mercy shewed to his people in giving them a faithful ministry and schooles of learning for the continual supplyes therof delivered in a sermon preached at Cambridg, the day after the commencement / by Charles Chauncy, B.D., President of Harvard Colledg in New-England ; published with some additions therunto at the request of diverse honoured and much respected friends ... Chauncy, Charles, 1592-1672. 1655 (1655) Wing C3738; ESTC W19762 28,505 62

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instruc●ing in the knowledg of the liberall Arts beyond Grammer Rhetorick as in Logick which may be of good use in humane things if reason manage that art of reason But the Mathematicks especially are to be had in good esteem in Vniversities as Arithmetick Geometry Geography and the like which as they carry no wickedness in them so are they besides very usefull in humane Societies and the affaires of this present life There may be also in these Vniversities Colledges allowed the studyes of Physick the Law c 5. Why the Vniversities Colledges should bee only at Cambridg Oxeford I know no reason and we judg it most prejudiciall to the common good of the Common-wealth that these two Vniversities should make a monopoly of humane learning to themselves Doubtless it would be more suitable to a Common-wealth and more advantagious to the good of all the people to have Vniversities or Colledges one at the least in every great Town or Citty in the Nation as in London York Bristow Exceter Norwich the like And for the State to allow to these Colledges an honest competent maintenance for some godly and learned men to teach the Tongues Arts under a due reformation Thus much Mr. Dell. By all which it appears that multitudes are deceived concerning this as if Mr. D. did utterly condemn Universities or schools of learning or that which is called humane learning seeing that there is no art or tongue studyed or taught in Colledges but he allowes though with caution and also he desires there were more schools Colledges Universities then there are Briefly Mr. Dells project is th●s and so farr to be allowed to put down heathenish schools where there be any such and to erect christian as himself speaks page 19. in his answer to Mr. S mpson Object But there is no necessity of Schools or Vniversityes or any humane learning to teach men Divinity or to make able preachers of the Gospell the teaching of the Spirit of God alone is sufficient which Mr. Dell proves by the examples of our Saviour Christ his Apostles seeing Christ himself had only the unction of the Spirit Isay 61 1-4 Luke 4. Mat 13.54 55. Besides when he would send forth pre●chers i● to all the world he chose Fishermen Publican Tent makers plain men and of ordinary imployment in the world and only put his Spirit upon them Acts 2.17 Th●s argument is much stood upon by Mr. Horne Mr. Crandon against M. B●xter Answ 1. It is a mervellous mistake to reason from our Saviour Christ his Apostles to these times For our Saviour received the Spirit not by measure John 3.24 and the Apostles had the miraculous visible extraordinary gifts of the Spirit bestowed on them Acts 2. So the reason will stand thus If our Saviour Christ and his Apostles without other learning by the miraculous and extraordinary gifts of the Spirit were enabled and furnished sufficiently for the ministry Then other ministers in after times that have no such extraordinary gi t s need no other learning but the unction of the Spirit as if he should say if Aholiab Bezaleel were filled with the Spirit of God in wisdom and in knowledg and all manner of workmanship to devise cunning works as they were Exod. 31.3 4. then no man need to be an apprentice to learn any Mechanicall trade seeing the teaching of the Spir t is sufficient for any cunning work w●o is there that would not account this reasoning ridiculous Surely if Mr. D. had not excluded Logick reason out of Divinity he would neuer have made such collections It is much like his reasoning in an other Sermon of his the Scripture saith that Christ shall Baptise with the holy Ghost with fire therfore there is no baptism with water to be used or to be in force But forsooth what ever he saith ye must expect no reason from him ye must take all from him as dictates of the Spirit and so all Ordinances in the Church that the Spirit hath appointed the Spirit shall also overthrow yea I know no reason why Mr. Dell or any other believer upon this ground may not make an other Scripture for if the same Spirit that indighted or penned the Scripture be in the same or the like measure in M. Dell or other believers as it was in the holy men of God and penmen of the Scripture then what Mr. D. and any other believers write or say is of equall authority with the Canonicall Scriptures So M. Dell and every believer is made a Pope that can not erre c but here I will stop spare 2. I affirm that the Lord Jesus and his Apostles were learned and beyond that which is attainable by ordinary teaching For our Saviour it is said Mat 13.54 55. Jesus came into his own country taught them in the Synagogue insomuch that they were astonished and said whence hath this man this wisdom and John 7.15 The Iewes marvielled at the teaching of our Saviour saying how knoweth this man letters or learning having never learned them therfore it is certain that our Saviour had learning though never trained up therin and also that learning or teaching is the ordinary way to attain to learning yea such learning as our Saviour manifested in his ministry as the Jewes conceived So I may say of the Apostles though in a farr inferiour degree For with that effusion of the Spirit at Penticost they had the gifts of tongus the gifts of miracles of discerning of Spirits yea the gifts of wisdom knowledg the Pastours and Teachers gifts mentioned 1 Cor 12 and also 1 Cor 14 But w●ll any man say that believers now have any such gifts of the Spirit or any promi●e therof Mr. D in his answer to Mr. S mpson page 3. te●●e● us of many promises of the Spirit to believers 1 Cor 12.13 Gal. 4.6 7. whence hee gathers that the whole Church of believers and every true member therof do receive the Spirit of God And who will deny that they do receive it to cry Abba father to change sanctifie comfort their hearts but there is more then these required to make an able minister Gods ministers must rightly divide the word of trueth 2 Tim 2.15 must be apt to teach 1 Tim 3.2 must be able by sound doctrine both to exhort to convince the gainsayers They must have the tongue of the learned that they may not be as those unlearned ones that wrest the Scriptures to their own others perdition 2 Pet. 3.16 Now let any prudent man be judg in this case whither he think that every christian that hath received the sanctifying Spirit of God is gifted therby qualified for the confutation of gainsayers and the whole work of the ministry Mr. Dell in his answer to Mr. Simpson Object Humane learning is rather an hinderance then an help to the ministry of the Gospel and doth rather unfit then fit