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A89830 The boaster bared, and his armour put off, without a conquest, by the quaking principle. In an answer to Enoch Hovvets, called Quaking principles dasht in pieces. / Written by James Nayler. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1655 (1655) Wing N266; Thomason E835_12; ESTC R202980 14,097 15

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and in that work thou art found in thy book by his subtilty pleading for sin against perfection for respect of persons his own kingdome and whereas thou chargest us with lust envie pride idolatry luxury and uncleanness I say these are thy own we deny them and that spirit that acts them else we should not be so hated by those that live in them Thou saist your soundation is laid upon the doctrin of the Apostles Prophets If thou means that spirit that was in them that foundation I own but if thou meanst the Letter then where had thy foundation been hadst thou never seen the Letter and that foundation I judge which stands in the visible to be none of Abrahams foundation which was laid before the Letter was 2 Cor. 4 18. Heb. 8 i0 11. Iohn 16.18 and thou tells of the Scripture being the bridle that checks lust But thou that knows nothing nearer then the letter to bridle and check lust thou knows not the law of the New Covenant written in the heart nor the Spirit of Christ that reproves the world of sin but without book without bridle and it s no strange thing that such should plead for a being for sin whileft they live who have no bridle for lust but when the Bible is in their hands unless thou meanest that keeping it in the house wil do it and how that bridle thou tels of hath kept thee and many more it is evident by your practise The words you have but not the life it seems thou hadst forgot thy bridle when thou wrote this book else thou durst not have vented so many lyes and false accusations against the truth which they that are checkt by that spirit that spake what is in the Letter bears witness against Thou saist if wisdom to salvation be contained in the Scriptures and if the Scriptures are the means of comfort and hope c. But why dost thou not speak plain that salvation is in the Letter contained and that the Letter is the means of comfort and hope it seems thou dares not positively say it is and therefore puts in if thou dares not wholly exclude Christ thou wilt allow him a name in the thing though thou give the power to the Letter for to say salvation wisdom is contained in the Letter and that the Letter is the ●eans of comfort is not this to deny Christ and the Letter too where is it so written Thy places thou makest use of wil not prove it without adding or wresting and to prove that the Letter is so thou brings that of Dan. 10.21 where the Angel when he would comfort Daniel said I will shew thee what is written in the Scriptures where it plainly appears that Daniel for all his wisdom could not know what was the life and comfort declared of in the Letter without the Spirit shewed it to him and here thou hast wel proved the life wisdom salvation and means of comfort to be contained in the spirit its opening which before thou saidst was contained in the Scriptures and thus whilest thou art about to dash in pieces the quakers principles thy potsheards are clashing one against another Thou saidst thy expectation is from the Scriptures but where findes thou it so written the Saints expectation is from God Is the Scriptures thy God And then to cover thy self thou sayst thou makes not the Scriptures thy sole cause of knowledg I answer That 's the sole cause of knowledg wherein is contained the wisdom to salvation and which is the means of comfort which thou hast ascribed to the Letter and now this cover wil not hide thee Thou sayest it is able in the hand of the eternall Teacher to make wise to salvation the man of God but thou hadst done wel to have given thy judgment clearly whether thou thinkest the Eternall Teacher can make wise to salvation without it or the man of God can be saved without the Letter Thou saies the Scripture proves the work of the New Birth but is it so written Shew me that place the new Birth was before the Letter and does the latter prove the former It is written the Spirituall Man proves and judgeth all things but not the litterall and here thou come not with 1 Cor. 2 i0.i5 it is written this is but imagined and this is thy first mistake against us and now thou comes to the second head which thou calls our mistake and that is our speaking to that vvithin I answer This only of thy seaven we own as it is laid down and thou that knows not that within to speak to 1 Pet. 3.19 knows not his Ministry that preaches to the spirits in Prison nor that quickned in thee that death hath passed over but art stil dead in sins and trespessas and knows not the seed of Abraham to which the promise is which is not after the flesh nor of the flesh which seed Christ takes upon him to renew the Image of God And whereas thou deniest it to be Gods language and calls it Satans Language I answer 1 Cor. 2.4 2 Cor. 4 2. Iohn 5.25 What language spake the Apostles when they spake in demonstration of spirit and commended themselves to that in every mans Conscience in the sight of God and what is that dead that must hear the voice of the son of God and live what is the inward man and the outward man if there be nothing in man to speak to and what was that which Christ spake to in Peter when he said 2 Cor. 4.16 Mat. 16.18.23 Upon thee will I build my Church and presently after get thee behind me Satan was this all one thing in Peter or was it to him alone as he was a Creature and herein thou declares thy self to be an unbeliever for he that believeth hath the witness in himself i Ioh. 5.10 which witness thou knows not in thee And saith the Apostle my Conscience also bearing me witness in the sight of God I lye not And what eyes was Paul to open in the Gentiles Acts 26.19 was it not an eye within Or was he but only to preach to men outwardly blind here thou hast manifested thy selfe to be a blind guide who hast not a witness of God in thee thou knowest of to exercise thy Conscience towards God and man therefore the devil hath h s wil in thee lying slandering and false accusing calling the inward man in the Saints Satan or some of his Legions 2 Cor. 4 i6 Now to thy third head That we deny the use of reason or consideration in matters of God I answer If thou meanest carnall or naturall reason I say it knows not nor discerns the things of God and we deny to consult with flesh and blood to know the things of God and shew where that is written 1 Cor. 2.14 Gal. 1 i6 Iude 10. that natural Reason is to be considered with about the things of God but if thou sayest thou