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A85261 J.F.'s reply unto Thomas Crisp's rapsody of lies, slanders and defamations of J.F. and R.R. &c. entituled, The fifth part of Babel builders, &c. Field, John, 1652-1723. 1682 (1682) Wing F864C; ESTC R177045 14,382 16

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J. F's Reply UNTO Thomas Crisp's Rapsody of Lies Slanders and Defamations of J. F. and R. R. c. Entituled The Fifth Part of Babel Builders c. An unjust man is an Abomination to the Just and he that is upright in the way is an abomination to the wicked There is a Generation whose Teeth are Swords and their Jaw Teeth as Knives to devour the Poor from the Earth and the needy from among men The Soul of the wicked desireth Evil and his Neighbours findeth no favour in his eyes Prov. 21.10 Who whet their Tongue like a Sword and bend their bow to shoot their Arrows even bitter words Psal 64.3 To the Reader shewing in brief our present Exercise is not new Courteous READER I Thought meet to remind thee how that Enmity and wroth soon entered the Heart of Cain against his innocent Brother Abel because his offering was not accepted And there was a Korah a Dathan and Abiram that pretended to holiness tho' wicked men and rose up against that meek man Moses Numb 16. And there was a Rabshekeh that was highly conceited of himself no doubt when with vain words he said I have Councel and Strength c. and said The Lord said to me Go up against this Land and destroy it 2 Kings 18 19. But the Virgin Daughter of Zion despised him shak'd her head at him and laughed him to scorn and they that are in the same Spirit now are his Off-spring for all their high words and pretences of being the Christian Quakers c. There was also we read a Judas that betrayed his Master c. and false Brethren among the Apostles that did then as T. C. doth now prate against the Truth yea there were some that brought in damnable Doctrines c. and I shall leave thee to Judge whether this man is not in the same Spirit and instigated by him out of whose Mouth came the unclean Spirits like Froggs see Rev. 16.13 to belye slander and mis-represent the Friends of Truth and People of the Lord in this our Age to whom I wish Repentance to the acknowledgment of his Fault and remain thy Friend J. F. And now I shall apply my self to T. C. Thomas Crisp I Have seen a Paper of thine wherein it plainly appears to me thou hast in thy pride and wrath said viz. For J. F. and R.R. they are such inconsiderable Persons that I am almost ashamed that I have taken any notice of them Answ Well Thomas thou maist be quite and altogether ashamed of thy belying slandering and defaming of us but I perceive Solomon said true A Fools mouth is his destruction and his lips the snare of his Soul and proud and haughty Scorner is his Name that dealeth in proud wrath for wrath killeth the foolishman and envy slayeth the sillyone But remember better is the poor that walketh in his uprightness than he that is perverse in his waies though he be rich And if thou T. C. art rich and wise in thy own conceit them that thou accountest poor have understanding and have searched thee and find there is more hopes of a Fool But as inconsiderable as we be if T.C. or any other can bring the man that can prove that ever either of us had any thing of any but what we came honestly by and without begging or laboured for or received of any one Farthing or Farthings worth directly or indirectly for Preaching for every Penny they shall have two for though we have and do Administer as occasion serves we do not receives Through the Lord's blessing there is no need And truly it thou art a rich man it 's pity thou should be so malicious and foolish to turn Informer as thou dost in publick Print and in the very Title page of thy Book against an inconsiderable Person too in thy esteem sure thou wast more malicious than wise herein for what couldst thou expect to gain of such an one Well this is no new thing for when the Devil could not have his will of Job to lead him into wickedness nor prevail upon on him to make him Answer his mind c. he turned Informer against him so thou maist see and read who is the father of all mercenary and ungodly malicious Informers and what became of Rich Haman that inform'd against poor Mordecai and sought the destruction of the people he belonged to and told lies to effect it though a better man than himself though not so Rich. Thou callest thy Book A Reply to several Lies Slanders false and wicked Insinuations of R. Richardson and J. Field 's Inhabitant and Preacher and then tells where and the place of his abode and adds of G. F's Party Pray observe the Informers Information and mark his Enmity for his Book I may say is stuffed with that he falsly pretends it 's a Reply unto viz. Lies c. and with some Billingsgate as thou saist pag. 17. manners for thee calls names as Drudges Arrogant Prater Inquisitor to the Bull and Mouth like a lazy begging Fryar false Accuser like Mercenary Reformado's Black Fryer like Fellow He viz. J. F. may have an Eye to an Apparitor or Informers place Well Thomas but what ever eye thou maist maliciously suggest I may have thou hast taken the Informers place before me but I will not here tell where thou livest lest others should hear of this thy new Undertaking Besides I wish thou maist grow wiser tho' I am of the wise Man's mind That there is more hopes of a Fool than a man wise in his own conceit for the foolishman perverteth his way and his heart fretteth against the Lord yea and his People to I may say proving That evil men and Seducers wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived Thou chargest me with a Lie in thy 18 pag. for speaking of Friends and saying Their Vnity is in the eternal Spirit Sure Thomas if thee Believes there be any Friends to God and Christ thou must grant their Unity is there or else inform me where it is indeed pag. 3. thou saist there quoting John Their fellowship is in the Light and what difference is there between the Light John there spoke of and the eternal Spirit But prethee Thomas hear thy self a little further how egregiously thou contradicts thy self and Preaches the same Doctrine which thou art angry with me for c. page 6. thou saist I own all faithful Friends and People of God their Vnity is in the eternal Spirit Very well Thomas and are not they that are faithful to the Spirit of God faithful Friends I will assure thee I never meant nor said that unfaithful Friends or Ranters and them that be not the People of God were of one mind or that their Unity was in the Eternal Spirlt And seeing thou saist p. 3. Take this Assertion not strictly but to the Church or People of God it seems contrary to Scripture c. though thou in the 6. pag says thou owns the People
of Gods unity is in the eternal Spirit I shall here shew that the Apostles exhorted the Corinthians to be of the same mind and Judgment though T. C. saith It seems contrary to the Scripture and quotes Rom. 14.5 c. as if the Apostles contradicted himself which would be wicked to Assert or insinuate Now the 1 Cor. 10. it s said Now I beseech you Brethren by the name of the Lord Jesus Christ that ye all speak the same thing and that there be no Divisions or Schisms among you but that ye be perfectly joyned together in the same mind and in the same Judgment And Rom. 15.5 6. the Apostle said Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be like minded one towards another according to Christ Jesus or after the Example of him who did wear the seamless Coat That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorifie God even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ see 1 Cor. 12.12 13 14 25. yea the whole Chapter I think I may say if thou was not a Novice as thou termest me in the Scripture thou would never have made such a noise as thou hast about this Position but I shall leave my Reader to judge whether thou art one of them that thinks to be heard for thy much babling c. or whether for this Doctrine thus agreeing with Scripture and own'd by T. C. I have proved my self like the wicked Atheist a Lyar wicked and false Accusers and proud Boaster or T. C. Another Lie in the 18 pag. thou chargest me with is for saying Thou pratest against the Truth But if all what thou hast writ be true I might acknowledge it so but it s not therefore remember a false Witness shall not be unpunished and he that speaketh Lies shall perish so read thy portion if thou repent not For the prating Fool shall fall said Solomon And Thomas I will assure thee it 's not thy thinking this or that that 's any proof tho' it 's thy practice in several Pages of thy Book so to say as rich as thou art thy word will not be taken herein I doubt thou art a little pufft up in thy mind with the conceit of thy Riches well remember it s said It makes it self wings and flies away and therefore do not because of it assume to tell my meaning and what I think as in the 13 page c. for that thou knowest not and therefore in so saying thou assumes God's Prerogative who according to Amos 4. last shews what the thoughts are and manifestest thy self a Lyar as well as Conceited I don't say like Irish as thou speaks of page 12. And in thy 4th Ba. p. 12. thou saist I judge not nor condemn any person for their Judgment and practice that differs from me that is not a breach of the Revealed Will of God and have often certified as much Then pray prove my Doctrine viz. that Friends Unity viz. faithful ones is in that eternal Spirit that leads all them that are faithful thereunto to be of one mind prove I say this contrary to the Revealed Will of God if thou canst and if their Unity is in it as thou ownest then they are one in it c. if it be not thus proved the contrary by the Revealed Will of God without thy thinkings and say-so's for alas that won't do indeed Tho. it wont also prove that the names thou call'st me and R.R. thy scoffing Lies and Raylery in thy Book is according to the Revealed Will of God which if it be the Scripture thou call'st the Revealed Will of God pray let me have Chapter and Verse as thou saist p. 8. and as also F. Bugg in his confused Book well Thomas don't think I have here pickt out all thy Lies Slanders Nick-names c. in thy Rabble of Railery thou callst Babels Builders c. no no for I question whether all the Paper I have here writ will hold them but if thou persist may be I may give a Catalogue of them But thy Tongue to me doth not appear to be that which is said to be a Tree of Life but rather to be set on fire of Hell So I think I may conclude and say with Solomon A poor man is better than a Lyar and he that hath a froward heart findeth no good and he that hath a perverse Tongue falleth into mischief yea the fools lips enter into contention and his mouth calleth for strokes So Thomas do thou make right application hereof And take a large measure or quantity of unfeigned Repentance Humility and the fear of the Lord and lie still therein until thou hast felt the righteous Judgments of God brought forth into victory over that Conceitedness Pride and Wrath which hath so much filled thy heart that it hath bred as I may say an evil disease that sticks fast unto thy Soul yea and the very Scab of Contention and if this means the Lord inclines thy heart unto thou maist thereby obtain Cure Which that thou maist is my real desire if it be God's Will for I find through the goodness of the Lord the Spirit of forgiveness in my Heart towards thee But if you still remain angry I am of Solomon's mind who saith Make no Friendship with an Angry man and with a furious man thou shalt not go And Thomas thou saist pag. 9. something about my having a high conceit of my self for which thou saist thou seest no cause for it except it 's my high living at where saist thou I think thou hast no cause to complain of thy high Rent Well Thomas I perceive thou makest the Proverb good That every Fool will be meddling tho' this concerns thee not but I would have thee know that I have and do as honestly pay my Rent as thee and for ought I know thy dwelling and mine considered as much as thou dost Well Dust it 's said is the Serpents meat who creeps upon his Belly and makes his Followers Back-biters Lyars and Creepers like himself and his Children loves the same meat and as greedily feed thereof when they get it as is manifested by thy collecting the Letters of divers persons names in thy fourth Page which if true manifest thy self to be one of cursed Ham's brood c. And I observe that thou maliciously speaks in thy 5 page of some That have been guilty of evil words and actions and yet have been owned as God's faithful Servants and in the Power of God and adds our Vnity is in forms Answ Observe his words have been But I affirm no person in the eternal power of God can be found in evil words and actions neither can those that are therein have Unity with such for all that goes into evil words and actions goes from the power of God and are by the same power Judged and Condemned and them that keep in the eternal power of God cannot have Unity with them therein but if any have gone from the power