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A14688 A treatise of Antichrist Conteyning the defence of Cardinall Bellarmines arguments, which inuincibly demonstrate, that the pope is not Antichrist. Against M. George Downam D. of Diuinity, who impugneth the same. By Michael Christopherson priest. The first part. Walpole, Michael, 1570-1624? 1613 (1613) STC 24993; ESTC S114888 338,806 434

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to_o be_v carry_v away_o with_o the_o sway_n of_o the_o time_n and_o the_o desire_n of_o worldly_a pleasure_n and_o preferment_n which_o m._n downam_n and_o all_o other_o may_v easy_o conceive_v not_o to_o be_v very_o great_a if_o his_o complaint_n of_o poverty_n and_o contempt_n which_o he_o make_v in_o his_o former_a sermon_n be_v true_a as_o no_o doubt_n they_o be_v in_o great_a part_n and_o these_o misery_n will_v daily_a increase_v as_o their_o credit_n do_v decrease_v so_o that_o if_o now_o that_o pitiful_a y●t_o ridiculous_a complaint_n of_o m._n downam_n be_v true_a that_o not_o only_o every_o mean_a man_n almost_o 67._o ser._n 1._o pag._n 67._o prefer_v himself_o before_o the_o minister_n but_o also_o disdain_v to_o bestow_v either_o his_o son_n on_o the_o ministry_n or_o his_o daughter_n on_o a_o minister_n the_o time_n no_o doubt_n will_v come_v and_o that_o short_o also_o that_o they_o ●halbe_n enforce_v to_o marry_v
chrysostome_n and_o s._n cyril_n upon_o this_o place_n s._n ambrose_n upon_o the_o 2._o chap._n of_o the_o 2._o epist_n to_o the_o thessalonians_n s._n hierome_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o algasia_n the_o 11._o question_n s._n augustine_n in_o 29._o tract_n upon_o s._n john_n s._n irenaeus_n in_o the_o 5._o book_n against_o the_o herefy_v of_o valentinus_n theodoretus_n in_o the_o epitome_n of_o the_o divine_a decree_n in_o the_o chap._n of_o antichrist_n beside_o in_o this_o place_n our_o lord_n do_v oppose_v to_o himself_o another_o man_n that_o be_v person_n to_o person_n not_o kingdom_n to_o kingdom_n nor_o sect_n to_o sect_n as_o it_o appear_v in_o those_o word_n i_o another_o in_o the_o name_n of_o my_o father_n in_o his_o own_o name_n i_o hym._n wherefore_o as_o christ_n be_v one_o particular_a man_n so_o shall_v antichrist_n be_v one_o particular_a man_n moreover_o christ_n say_v in_o this_o place_n that_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v receive_v for_o messiah_n by_o the_o jew_n and_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o jew_n expect_v one_o certain_a and_o particular_a man_n in_o like_a manner_n all_o false_a prophet_n come_v in_o the_o name_n of_o another_o and_o not_o in_o their_o own_o name_n jerem._n 14._o the_o prophet_n do_v false_o prophetize_v in_o my_o name_n i_o send_v they_o not_o &c._n &c._n but_o here_o our_o lord_n speak_v of_o one_o certain_a man_n which_o shall_v come_v in_o his_o own_o name_n that_o be_v who_o shall_v acknowledge_v no_o god_n at_o all_o but_o shall_v extol_v himself_o as_o s._n paul_n say_v above_o all_o that_o be_v call_v god_n final_o very_o many_o false_a prophet_n be_v come_v before_o christ_n very_o many_o also_o be_v to_o come_v afterward_o therefore_o our_o lord_n will_v not_o have_v say_v if_o another_o shall_v come_v but_o many_o do_v come_v if_o he_o will_v have_v speak_v of_o false_a prophet_n the_o second_o place_n be_v 2._o thess_n 2._o unless_o there_o come_v a_o revolt_n first_o and_o the_o man_n of_o sin_n be_v reveal_v the_o son_n of_o perdition_n etc._n etc._n and_o a●●er_o and_o then_o the_o wicked_a one_o shall_v be_v raveal_v who_o our_o lord_n jesus_n shall_v kill_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o his_o mouth_n these_o word_n the_o adversary_n themselves_o understand_v of_o the_o true_a antichrist_n but_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o a_o certain_a determinate_a &_o particular_a person_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o greek_a article_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o after_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o as_o s._n epiphanius_n haeres_fw-la 9_o which_o be_v of_o the_o samaritan_o teach_v the_o greek_a article_n do_v contract_v the_o signification_n to_o one_o certain_a thing_n so_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v man_n in_o common_a but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o particular_a man_n and_o sure_o it_o be_v marvel_v that_o none_o of_o the_o aduersaty_n who_o notwithstanding_o do_v boast_n of_o skill_n in_o tongue_n have_v observe_v this_o the_o three_o place_n be_v where_o we_o read_v thus_o 1._o joan_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o he_o put_v the_o article_n before_o antichrist_n so_o proper_o call_v &_o he_o pronounce_v the_o name_n of_o antichrist_n common_o take_v without_o the_o article_n most_o plain_o show_v that_o antichrist_n proper_o take_v be_v one_o certain_a person_n but_o antichrist_n common_o so_o call_v be_v no_o certain_a person_n but_o in_o general_a all_o heretic_n the_o four_o be_v dan._n 7._o 11._o &_o 12._o chapter_n where_o he_o speak_v of_o antichrist_n as_o s._n hierome_n &_o theodoretus_n upon_o that_o place_n irenaeus_n lib._n 5._o august_n lib._n 20._o de_fw-la civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la cap._n 23._o yea_o caluin_n the_o magdeburgenses_n &_o beza_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la do_v teach_v and_o there_o antichrist_n be_v not_o call_v one_o kingdom_n but_o one_o king_n who_o often_o king_n which_o he_o shall_v find_v in_o the_o world_n shall_v take_v three_o quite_o away_o &_o shall_v subject_v unto_o himself_o the_o other_o seven_o beside_o caluin_n say_v that_o litterallie_o daniel_n speak_v of_o antiochus_n illustris_fw-la &_o allegoricallie_o of_o antichrist_n who_o antiochus_n figure_v which_o s._n cyprian_n teach_v in_o his_o book_n of_o exhortation_n to_o martyrdom_n cap._n 11._o &_o s._n hierome_n upon_o the_o 11._o &_o 12._o of_o daniel_n but_o antiochus_n be_v a_o certain_a &_o particular_a person_n therefore_o antichrist_n must_v be_v also_o one_o certain_a person_n the_o five_o and_o last_o place_n be_v apoc._n 13._o &_o 17._o where_o s._n irenaeus_n lib._n 5._o affirm_v that_o antichrist_n be_v speak_v of_o and_o it_o be_v plain_a by_o reason_n of_o the_o likeness_n of_o daniel_n &_o s._n johns_n word_n for_o both_o of_o they_o make_v mention_n of_o ten_o king_n which_o shall_v be_v in_o the_o world_n when_o antichrist_n shall_v come_v and_o both_o of_o they_o foretell_v that_o antichristes_n kingdom_n shall_v endure_v three_o year_n and_o a_o half_a etc._n etc._n as_o therefore_o daniel_n speak_v of_o one_o determinate_a king_n so_o also_o do_v s._n john_n in_o the_o apocalyps_n the_o same_o be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o father_n who_o with_o common_a consent_n do_v teach_v of_o antichrist_n first_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v a_o most_o choose_a instrument_n of_o the_o devil_n so_o that_o in_o he_o shall_v inhabit_v all_o fullness_n of_o the_o devil_n malice_n corporal_o as_o in_o christ_n be_v a_o man_n do_v inhabit_v all_o plenitude_n of_o divinity_n corporal_o second_o that_o antichrist_n shall_v not_o reign_v more_o than_o three_o year_n and_o a_o half_a and_o consequent_o they_o teach_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v only_o one_o man_n see_v s._n irenaeus_n lib._n 5._o towards_o the_o end_n cyril_n of_o jerusalem_n catechesi_fw-la 15._o s._n chrysostome_n in_o 2._o thess_n 2._o theodoret_n in_o cap._n 7._o dan._n lactant._n in_o epit_a divin_v inst_z cap._n 11._o s._n ambrose_n in_o cap._n 21._o luc._n s._n hierome_n in_o cap._n 7._o dan._n &_o q._n 11._o ad_fw-la algasians_n s._n augustine_n lib._n 20._o de_fw-la civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la in_o many_o chapter_n and_o upon_o the_o 9_o psalm_n s._n gregory_n lib._n 32._o moral_a cap._n 12._o s._n damascen_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 28._o &_o s._n hippolytus_n martyr_n in_o his_o oration_n of_o the_o consummation_n or_o end_n of_o the_o world_n to_o the_o first_o argument_n of_o beza_n i_o answer_v that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n antichrist_n do_v begin_v secret_o to_o give_v onsett_n not_o in_o his_o own_o person_n but_o in_o his_o forerunner_n for_o as_o christ_n begin_v to_o come_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n in_o the_o patriarch_n and_o prophet_n who_o go_v before_o he_o and_o do_v signify_v he_o so_o that_o the_o mystery_n of_o piety_n may_v be_v say_v to_o have_v begin_v to_o work_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n and_o notwithstanding_o he_o come_v not_o in_o his_o own_o person_n until_o he_o take_v flesh_n of_o the_o b._n virgin_n so_o antichrist_n straight_o after_o the_o ascension_n of_o christ_n into_o heaven_n begin_v to_o come_v in_o his_o forerunner_n &_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n begin_v to_o work_v to_o wit_n in_o the_o heretic_n and_o i_o yrant_n which_o do_v persecute_v the_o church_n and_o chief_o in_o simon_n magus_n who_o call_v himself_o christ_n and_o in_o nero_n who_o first_o begin_v to_o impugn_v the_o church_n and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o in_o his_o own_o person_n he_o shall_v not_o come_v but_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n wherefore_o the_o spiritual_a persecution_n of_o simon_n magus_n and_o the_o temporal_a of_o nero_n be_v call_v the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n because_o they_o be_v sign_n &_o figure_n of_o antichrist_n persecution_n that_o this_o be_v the_o true_a explication_n of_o the_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n may_v be_v prove_v in_o two_o sort_n first_o by_o all_o the_o interpreter_n of_o that_o place_n for_o all_o do_v by_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n which_o s._n paul_n mention_v understand_v either_o nero_n persecution_n as_o s._n ambrose_n and_o s._n chrysostome_n upon_o this_o place_n and_o s._n hierom_n quaest_n 11._o ad_fw-la algasiam_fw-la or_o the_o heretic_n who_o do_v deceive_v secret_o as_o theodoretus_n and_o sedulius_n upon_o this_o place_n &_o s._n augustine_n lib._n 20._o de_fw-la civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la cap._n 19_o second_o by_o a_o reason_n take_v from_o the_o adversary_n confession_n for_o they_o say_v that_o antichrist_n proper_o be_v the_o seat_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n if_o therefore_o antichrist_n so_o proper_o call_v be_v bear_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n it_o do_v follow_v that_o s._n peter_n &_o s._n paul_n be_v proper_o call_v antichrist_n although_o secret_a and_o that_o nero_n or_o simon_n magus_n be_v the_o true_a christ_n for_o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n there_o be_v
see_v cap._n 8._o there_o he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o number_n to_o be_v litterallie_o understand_v because_o it_o make_v too_o much_o against_o he_o who_o will_v have_v antichrist_n reign_n to_o endure_v many_o hundred_o year_n &_o not_o only_o 42._o month_n as_o s._n io._n affirm_v cap._n 13._o v._n 5._o which_o cap._n 12._o v._n 6._o he_o count_v also_o by_o day_n 12●0_n and_o v._o 14._o with_o the_o very_a same_o word_n of_o daniel_n a_o time_n and_o time_n and_o half_o a_o time_n and_o five_o 12._o a_o little_a time_n which_o be_v the_o short_a time_n he_o also_o speak_v of_o cap._n 17._o v._n 10._o last_o he_o come_v to_o the_o father_n and_o it_o be_v strange_a to_o see_v how_o light_a he_o set_v by_o their_o authority_n father_n downam_n reject_v the_o father_n say_v that_o no_o sound_a argument_n can_v be_v draw_v from_o it_o and_o yet_o he_o will_v make_v a_o shift_n to_o seem_v to_o say_v something_o repeat_v that_o which_o he_o have_v say_v before_o that_o the_o father_n do_v not_o express_o say_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v but_o one_o and_o then_o that_o some_o of_o they_o do_v expound_v matth._n 24._o where_o our_o saviour_n speak_v in_o the_o plural_a number_n of_o antichrist_n to_o both_o which_o i_o have_v already_o answer_v that_o the_o father_n use_v other_o word_n equivalent_a and_o the_o place_n of_o s._n matth._n be_v chief_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o chief_a and_o proper_a antichrist_n final_o he_o will_v fain_o shift_v of_o those_o two_o propriety_n of_o antichrist_n which_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n aleadge_v out_o of_o the_o father_n in_o his_o proof_n and_o to_o the_o first_o though_o faint_o he_o affirm_v that_o it_o may_v all_o be_v say_v of_o the_o whole_a succession_n of_o pope_n but_o he_o see_v himself_o how_o false_o that_o be_v &_o therefore_o he_o will_v have_v willing_o deny_v the_o assertion_n of_o the_o father_n and_o yet_o he_o dare_v not_o adventure_v upon_o that_o neither_o say_v that_o he_o will_v not_o thereof_o dispute_v where_o it_o be_v pitiful_a to_o see_v how_o poor_a m._n downam_n be_v meet_v withal_o on_o every_o side_n and_o remain_v so_o perplex_v that_o he_o can_v not_o tell_v which_o way_n to_o turn_v himself_o but_o when_o he_o come_v to_o the_o second_o propriety_n he_o say_v that_o he_o will_v take_v heed_n how_o he_o come_v any_o more_o into_o such_o perplexity_n and_o so_o he_o think_v better_a to_o crave_v pardon_n for_o this_o time_n and_o refer_v it_o till_o another_o meeting_n ●_o see_v cap._n ●_o at_o which_o you_o shall_v hear_v what_o he_o will_v be_v able_a to_o say_v for_o himself_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o will_v try_v his_o cunning_n whether_o it_o will_v serve_v he_o to_o reach_v cardinal_n bellarmine_n one_o little_a veny_n at_o the_o least_o since_o he_o have_v be_v sound_o thwake_v &_o cudgel_v by_o he_o and_o at_o last_o make_v to_o run_v out_o of_o the_o battle_n with_o a_o break_a head_n and_o so_o he_o lay_v down_o his_o defensive_a weapon_n and_o betake_v himself_o to_o the_o offensive_a bring_v the_o argument_n which_o bellarmine_n allege_v out_o of_o other_o heretic_n as_o though_o they_o be_v his_o own_o 9_o and_o yet_o he_o will_v fain_o seem_v to_o add_v something_o to_o the_o force_n of_o the_o first_o argument_n and_o for_o this_o purpose_n he_o make_v a_o conference_n betwixt_o paul_n and_o john_n and_o in_o the_o margin_n cit_v 3._o place_n out_o of_o s._n johns_n epistle_n &_o after_o put_v the_o argument_n 18._o 1._o john_n 4._o 3._o 2._o io._n 7._o 1._o io._n 2._o 18._o in_o form_n but_o in_o substance_n add_v nothing_o at_o all_o but_o rather_o weaken_v it_o much_o by_o a_o new_a interpretation_n of_o his_o own_o how_o our_o saviour_n shall_v kill_v antichrist_n with_o the_o spirit_n of_o his_o mouth_n that_o be_v say_v he_o with_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n &_o so_o it_o shall_v argument_n downam_n weaken_v his_o fellow_n argument_n not_o be_v necessary_a to_o expect_v our_o saviour_n come_v to_o kill_v 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