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Seekers supplied, or Three and forty non-church queries by Scripture answered. Penned and publish't for the vindication of Christs commands, and edification and confirmation of his people. / By Thomas Killcop, servant to Christ Iesus, the King of Kings.
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Killcop, Thomas.
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not the life and power of Gospel ministrations for they lived and acted without them as I minded in querie the 6. how Iohn and Christ Disciple administred in a Gospel way when they had not such gifts That John was a Gospeller see further Mat. 11.10.12 Marke 1.12.4 Luke 16.16 Que. 20 Whether the death of the Visible bodie of Christ was not the death of the visible ministries and ministrations of the Law Ans Yea and well it may being the substantiall Antitype of those Types and shadowes Col. 2.17 Heb. 9.9 10 11. 10 1 2. Que. 21 Whether the death of the visible power of Christ by the ceasing of the visible gifts of the holy spirit was not the death of the visible ministries and ministrations of the Gospel Ans The ceasing of gifts cannot kill Gospell ministries or ministrations of Worship first because they never had life by them as querie 6. and 18. Secondly neither were Gospel administrations shadowes of these gifts as the ministeries of the Law were of Christs death Que. 22 Whether it be possible for any man to be a true visible Preacher or Minister of worship in any other kind according to Rom. 12.6.7 2 Cor. 12.3 7. Ephes 4.7 2 Tim. 4.14 15. 1 Pet. 4.10.11 unlesse he hath received or been visiblie baptized with the holy spirit that if way be manifest to sence that it is imediatly or mediatly after a supernaturall way from God Ans T is doubtlesse possible for such to be visible Preachers and Ministers of worship that have neither gift of miracle nor the spirits baptisme as is proved in quetie 6. Que. 23 Whether if any can or at least will pretend to administer in a Gospell way visibly who are dead to it for want of visible life by gifts why may not every one that can and will pretend it Ans I have oft proved that the want of gifts make not men dead to administrations Secondly though beleeving men in the ways of God may administer yet first unbeleevers may not Psal 50.16.17 Secondly Non-participaters though beleevers may not when Christs wayes are afoot for Christ himselfe would not preach the Gospel but first be baptized to fulfill righteousnesse even a righteous order Mat. 3.15 and 4.23 And Paul though appointed to witnesse Christ to the Gentiles must first be baptized Acts 22.15 16. Thirdly beleeving women though baptized may not in the Church by administring usurp authority 1 Cor. 14.34 1. Tim. 2. Que. 24 Whether any beleever now living in the world can truly say he is visibly baptized with the holy spirit according to Acts 8 15 16.17 and 10 44.45 and 19.2 and many other places Ans First I have proved this baptisme not to be alwayes visible from Acts 10.45.46 Secondly everie baptized beleever since Christ assention is or shall be little or much baptized with the holy spirit or else God keeps not promise Acts 2.17 18.38.39 Iohn 7.38.39 Beleevers without this are without their earnest and likewise unsealed Ephes 1.13.14 which I doubt the Querer is Que. 25 Whether any beleever now living in the world can shew what this particular gift or gifts are and after what manner or forme particular gifts are to be administred as the gift of knowledge wisedome faith miracles prophesie disearning of spirits tongues interpretation of tongues c. 1 Cor. 12.8.9 What the baptisme of the spirit the Birth-right of every called one is I purpose God assisting to declare fully from Acts 19. In a booke which I shall intitle A two fold baptisme in the meane while see the substance of it in Acts 2.18 in these words On my servants and handmaids will I poure my spirit and they shall prophesie Ans God will poure his spirit on them that is the gift and they shall prophesie that is the effect they shall be filled with the holy spirit as a fountaine is filled with water that is the gift and the fulnesse within shall bubble forth that is the effect as Iohn 7.38 39. Acts 2.4 The appearance of fierie tongues is an overplus in the gift and the speaking with tongues is an overplus in the effect Que. 26 Whether any that hath a visibile gits or gifts of the spirit must not of necessity know that he hath so Ans T is likely he should yet I conceive it may possibly be otherwise For Sampson thought the spirit abode with him when it was gon Iudg. 16.20 Que. 27 Whether any that hath a visible gift or gifts of the spirit must not of necessity administer infallibly when he administers by them Ans Yea doubtlesse 1 Cor. 12.3 Qu. 28 Whether any one that hath a visible gift or gifts of the spirit administring sometime by them and sometime beside them must not of necessitie know when he administers infallibly by them and when beside them As well at least as any Officer in commission or any Souldier of or in any Armie or any Officer or member of a civill state can tell when he administers or acts according to his commission institution biâ—th priveledges c. and when it is not Ans We have our Commissions institutions c. not from gifts but from the written word 1 Cor. 14.37 Gal. 1 8 9 2 Pet. 1.17.18.19 Secondly there is a possibillity for people thus gifted to be mistaken in this kind For the Corinthians which came short in no gift 1 Cor. 1.5 6.7 Supposed the spirit taught them to let women teach in the Church 1 Cor. 14.35 36 37 38. and the Galatians had these gifts and yet that was errour which they tooke for truth and they fell backward when they thought they went forward Gal. 3.2 3.5 and yet all the Saints gifted or not gifted are in some things infallible Iohn 21.24 and 1 Iohn 5 18 19 20. Que. 29 Whether any that hath a visible gift or gifts of the spirit must not of necessitie know when he administers each severall gift Ans No we may possibly thinke we administer the gift of wisedome when envie is in us or the gift of knowledge when pride hath possest us or uncharitablenesse but are deceived Iam. 3.13.14 15. 1 Cor. 8.1 2 3. Que. 30 Whether it be not necessary that the visible gifts of the holy spirit should continue in the Church as long as there is a Church to distinguish between christian and antichristian spirits As in civill affaires officers and members of a civill state should have visible commissions institutions birth-priveledges c. to distinguish them from false intruders Ans First any man indude with reason will deny those gifts which you call visible to be Commissions and institutions Secondly civill Commissions and institutions are written so are ours as before minded Thirdly to distinguish between Antichristian and Christian spirits was not Christs end for gifts as querie 18. Fourthly Antichristians shall by miracles deceive all except the Elect. Mat. 24.24 Rev. 13.13 14 15. Que. 31 Whether the visible Church want not members when any of the gifts are wanting
miracles nor the baptisme of the spirit for this Administrator-ship was before Iohns imprisonment Iohn 3.34 or Christ returne to Galilee Iohn 4.3 But after these things many of the twelve came to Christ Mark 1.14.16.19 and 2.14 and after this Christ chose the twelve from other Disciples and after this choice he called them Apostles and then gave them power to heale sicknesses cast out Devills c. Mark 3.13.14.15 Mat. 10.2 And their baptisme with the spirit was not till after Christs assension Acts 1.4.5 and 2. chap. Whether Iohns baptisme and ministrie were not to end when Que. 7 Christs were fully come Iohn 3.30 Act. 13.25 No verily for first those places speake no such thing 2. Ans Iohn began Christs Gospel prepared his way made his pathes straight Mark 1.1 2 3 4. Whether any were baptized in the name of the Lord Iesus or of Que. 8 Christ before the assension or with Iohns baptisme after the assension Yea verily for these differ not Ans being both the baptisme of water Acts 1.5 and 10.47.48 and both the baptisme of repentance for the remission of sins Mar. 1.4 Acts 2.39 Whether there be not a baptisme for the giving and receiving of Que. 9 the holy spirit distinct from that of Iohn or Christ seeing Philip it seemes could not administer that of the holy spirit though he did administer the other Act. 8.12.15.16.17 The baptisme of water and the baptisme of the holy spirit Ans are doubtlesse two distinct baptismes Act. 1.5 Whether the baptisme in the Apostles Commission Mat. 28. Mar. Que. 10 16. were the baptisme of John so called Mat. 3.7 and 21.25 Act. 1.22 and 18.25 and 19.3 or the baptisme of Christ or in the name of the Lord Iesus so called Act. 2.38 and 8.16 and 10.48 and 19.5 or the baptisme with or in the name of the holy spirit so called Math. 3.11 and 28.19 Mark 1.8 Luk. 3.16 or all these baptismes together I have proved the two first not to differ querie 8. secondly Ans the baptisme of or with the holy spirit is not called a baptisme in the name of the holy spirit this is a meer deluding falshood of purpose to pervert Mat. 28.19 which place speakes not of the baptisme of the spirit but of the baptisme of water For it is the disciplising baptisme and that is that with water Ioh 4.1.2 compared with Ioh. 3.22.23 Secondly it is that baptisme to which is annex t the promise of the spirit Mat. 28.20 Mark 16.17 and that is that with water Mat. 3.11 Mark 1.8 Act. 2.38 Obicte Where is that baptisme said to be in the name of the father son and spirit Ans The baptisme with water is the baptisme in the name of the Lord Iesus but the baptisme of the spirit is not Act. 8.15.16 and 10.47.48 and he as man is his fathers deputie doing and speaking his fathers will Heb. 1.1.2 Ioh. 7.29 Therefore what is done in his name or in obedience to him is in the name of or in obedience to the Trenity or God-head Luk. 10.16 Que. 11 Whether the baptisme of Christ be to be administred with water Ans Yea Act. 8.38 and 10.47.48 Que. 12 Whether the baptisme of the spirit be administred with water Ans No Act. 1.5 Que. 13 Whether the baptisme of Iohn or the baptisme of Christ in the ministration with water be to be administred with these words in the name of the father Ans Christ did not bid say I baptize thee in the name c. He bid doe it in the name c. Que. 14 Whether all that were visibly baptized in the name of the Lord Iesus received or were they visibly baptized with the holy spirit Ans All baptized Beleevers had more or lesse sooner or later that baptisme of the spirit which you call visible Act. 2.38 39. Quere 15 Whether ever any particular Churches of Christ officers officer or People as by vertue of particular Church priveledges did or had power to administer either all or any of the aforesaid baptisme Ans Any Church that had abilitie had also authority to administer either baptisme but some wanted abillitie to administer that of the spirit so much as on themselves Act. 8.16 17 19. Que. 16 Whether Elders Bishops Pastors or Deacons had any more power by vertue of these titles of office to administer in matters of worship then any other in the Church had or might have though they were no officers Ans Disciples as Disciples have power from Christ to administer Iohn 4.1 2. Mat. 25.16 18 19. Acts 9.10 yet may a Church I conceive make use most usually of her ablest Members Acts 13.1 with Acts 15.22.35 Que. 17 Whether the Officers afore said were not only civell Ans No Christ is a soule Bishop or Shepheard 1 Pet. 2.25 And these are his Deputies 1 Pet. 5.1 2 3 4. Also the flock and food is spirituall therefore Pastors also Que. 18 Whether the visible presence of Christ or any other of his visible ministries or ministrations of worship were to continue any longer time then the visible power and presence of the holy spirit by gifts which was before told should accompany them and was fulfild according to these and other Scriptures Mat. 3.11 Mark 16.17 18 20. Iohn 1.33 and 7.39 and 14.26 and 16 13. Act. 1.25 and 2.38.43 and 8.16.17 and 11.15.16 and 19.5 6. Heb. 2.3.4 Ans This querie declares horrible sottishnesse in the querer For first the spirit was not in this sort present till Christs visible presence was gone Iohn 16.7 Secondly not one of these Scriptures doe fore tell that these gifts should accompanie ministries and ministrations of worship Thirdly not one of them affirmes such a thing to be fulfild Fourthly some of them declare the word to be confirmed by them As Mar. 16.20 Heb. 2. But that being confirmed and people receiving that for Gods word they are to submit to it without seeing miracles for such as now give nor heed to but neglect it cannot escap Because Christ and others at first preach it and God even then bore witnesse to it or to them preaching it with miracles and other gifts of the spirit as he at that time pleased Heb. 2.1 2 3 4. These gifts were to confirm doctrin while it was new Mar. 1.27 Thus with Moses and the Prophets so also with Christ But now Gods last spokes-man hath already uttered and confirmed his last message Mar. 21.36.37 Heb. 1.1 and 2.3.4 therefore Gods use and end for miracles or gifts termed visible is null For whosoever teacheth otherwise now then what is already taught is to be accurst Gal. 1. Que. 19 Whether the visible gifts of the holy spirit were not the life power c. of the visible ministries and ministrations of the Gospel as much at least as the holy anointing oyle and the bodie of Christ was the life of those under the law Ans To compare oyle with Christs body I account it blasphemie Secondly these gifts termed visible are