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A52036 An answer to a booke entitvled An hvmble remonstrance in which the originall of liturgy, episcopacy is discussed : and quares propounded concerning both : the parity of bishops and presbyters in Scripture demonstrated : the occasion of their imparity in antiquity discovered : the disparity of the ancient and our moderne bishops manifested : the antiquity of ruling elders in the church vindicated : the prelaticall church bownded / written by Smectymnvvs. Smectymnuus.; Milton, John, 1608-1674. 1641 (1641) Wing M748; ESTC R21898 76,341 112

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the_o church_n be_v govern_v communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la by_o the_o counsel_n of_o the_o presbyter_n in_o common_a and_o that_o even_o after_o this_o imparity_n it_o ought_v to_o be_v so_o govern_v sciant_fw-la episcopi_fw-la se_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la debere_fw-la in_o communi_fw-la regere_fw-la five_o that_o the_o occasion_n of_o this_o imparity_n and_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n above_o elder_n be_v the_o division_n which_o through_o the_o devil_n instinct_n fall_v among_o the_o church_n post_fw-la quam_fw-la verò_fw-la diaboli_fw-la instinctu_fw-la saravia_n will_v take_v advantage_n of_o this_o place_n to_o deduce_v this_o imparity_n as_o high_a as_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n because_o even_o then_o they_o begin_v to_o say_v i_o be_o of_o paul_n and_o i_o of_o apollo_n but_o sure_a s._n jerome_n be_v not_o so_o weak_a as_o this_o man_n will_v make_v he_o to_o speak_v inconsistency_n and_o when_o he_o propound_v it_o to_o himself_o to_o prove_v that_o 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the_o suppress_n of_o schism_n yet_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n to_o think_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o his_o apostle_n be_v never_o the_o author_n of_o this_o invention_n first_o because_o we_o read_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n there_o be_v division_n rome_n 16.7_o and_o schism_n 1_o cor._n 3.3_o &_o 11.18_o yet_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o direct_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o ord●ine_a bishop_n for_o the_o take_v away_o of_o those_o division_n neither_o in_o the_o rule_v he_o prescribe_v for_o the_o heal_n of_o those_o breach_n do_v he_o mention_v bishop_n for_o that_o end_n nor_o in_o the_o direction_n give_v to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n for_o the_o ordination_n of_o bishop_n or_o elder_n do_v he_o mention_v this_o as_o one_o end_n of_o their_o ordination_n or_o one_o peculiar_a duty_n of_o their_o office_n and_o though_o the_o apostle_n say_v o_o portet_fw-la haereses_fw-la inter_fw-la vos_fw-la esse_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la probati_fw-la sunt_fw-la manifesti_fw-la 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former_a order_n of_o the_o church_n and_o from_o apostolical_a writ_n and_o this_o rectorship_n or_o priority_n be_v devolve_v at_o first_o from_o one_o elder_a to_o another_o by_o succession_n when_o he_o who_o be_v in_o the_o place_n be_v remove_v the_o next_o in_o order_n among_o the_o elder_n succeed_v but_o this_o be_v afterward_o change_v and_o that_o unworthy_a man_n may_v not_o be_v prefer_v it_o be_v make_v a_o matter_n of_o election_n and_o not_o a_o matter_n of_o succession_n thus_o much_o we_o find_v concern_v the_o occasion_n of_o this_o imparity_n enough_o to_o show_v it_o be_v not_o of_o divine_a authority_n for_o the_o second_o thing_n the_o person_n who_o bring_v in_o this_o imparity_n the_o same_o author_n tell_v we_o the_o presbyter_n themselves_o bring_v it_o in_o witness_n hierome_n ad_fw-la evag._n alexandria_n presbyteri_fw-la unum_fw-la ex_fw-la se_fw-la electum_fw-la in_o excelsiori_fw-la gradu_fw-la collocatum_fw-la evag._n episcopum_fw-la nominabant_fw-la 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the_o seven_o angel_n that_o pour_v out_o the_o seven_o vial_n be_v not_o literal_o to_o be_v take_v but_o synecdochical_o as_o all_o know_v and_o why_o not_o then_o the_o seven_o angel_n in_o those_o epistle_n master_n meed_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o revelation_n pag._n 265_o have_v these_o word_n denique_fw-la ut_fw-la jam_fw-la semel_fw-la iterumque_fw-la monuimus_fw-la quoniam_fw-la deus_fw-la adhibet_fw-la angelos_fw-la providentiae_fw-la sitae_fw-la in_o rerum_fw-la humanarum_fw-la motibus_fw-la &_o conversionibus_fw-la ciendis_fw-la gubernandisque_fw-la administros_fw-la idcirco_fw-la quae_fw-la multorum_fw-la manibus_fw-la peraguntur_fw-la angelo_n tamen_fw-la tanquam_fw-la rei_fw-la gerendae_fw-la praesidi_fw-la &_o duci_fw-la pro_fw-la communi_fw-la loquendi_fw-la modo_fw-la tribuuntur_fw-la add_v three_o that_o the_o very_a name_n angel_n be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v not_o mean_v of_o one_o person_n alone_o because_o the_o word_n angel_n do_v 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