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expression_n and_o action_n or_o at_o least_o shrewd_o guest_n at_o otherwise_o how_o do_v peter_n perceive_v simon_n magus_n to_o be_v in_o the_o gall_n of_o bitterness_n act_v 8._o 23._o yet_o i_o hope_v at_o that_o time_n he_o enter_v not_o into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n a_o die_a man_n send_v for_o his_o minister_n to_o comfort_v he_o may_v not_o the_o minister_n put_v he_o to_o the_o test_n whether_o at_o least_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n he_o be_v a_o subject_a capable_a of_o comfort_n may_v he_o not_o 1._o try_v he_o in_o point_n of_o knowledge_n 2_o lie_n may_v he_o not_o inquire_v about_o his_o truth_n of_o grace_n and_o from_o scripture-evidence_n labour_v to_o find_v out_o whether_o he_o have_v true_a faith_n and_o repentance_n that_o according_o he_o may_v either_o comfort_n or_o warn_v he_o 3_o lie_n in_o so_o do_v be_v he_o just_o chargeable_a with_o enter_v into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n do_v we_o any_o more_o to_o people_n in_o order_n to_o their_o 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mile_n if_o i_o can_v go_v with_o he_o twain_o and_o where_o i_o be_o force_v to_o shake_v hand_n with_o he_o i_o shall_v endeavour_v to_o give_v he_o and_o other_o such_o ground_n of_o my_o dissatisfaction_n in_o the_o spirit_n of_o meekness_n as_o thereby_o it_o may_v appear_v i_o do_v not_o act_n either_o irrational_o or_o uncharitable_o the_o lord_n send_v the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n grace_n and_o love_n into_o all_o our_o heart_n to_o lead_v we_o into_o all_o truth_n holiness_n and_o unity_n mr._n humphrey_n 61._o pag._n 61._o my_o first_o reason_n be_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v the_o show_v of_o christ_n death_n a_o visible_a gospel_n and_o so_o a_o firm_a ground_n of_o free_a admission_n unto_o this_o the_o sum_n of_o what_o he_o say_v over_o and_o over_o from_o pag._n 37._o to_o pag._n 52._o come_v but_o to_o this_o all_o may_v be_v present_a but_o not_o actual_o receive_v grant_v the_o foundation_n ans_fw-fr 1._o if_o the_o reader_n will_v please_v to_o peruse_v my_o text_n i_o be_o confident_a he_o will_v be_v more_o candid_a to_o i_o then_o mr._n humphrey_n have_v be_v and_o not_o judge_v i_o have_v spend_v those_o seven_o or_o eight_o leaf_n in_o mere_a tautology_n such_o weak_a imputation_n argue_v more_o strength_n of_o passion_n then_o of_o reason_n and_o serve_v rather_o to_o catch_v than_o to_o convince_v the_o reader_n 2_o can_v there_o be_v fair_a play_n then_o to_o yield_v my_o antagonist_n by_o way_n of_o position_n or_o supposition_n as_o much_o as_o he_o desire_v for_o his_o strong_a conviction_n 3_o if_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o free-admission_n flow_v not_o from_o this_o principle_n i_o hope_v he_o will_v remember_v himself_o better_a and_o not_o hereafter_o charge_v
caro_fw-la et_fw-la sanguis_fw-la dictat_fw-la ab_fw-la hoc_fw-la coetu_fw-la excluditur_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o pray_v what_o be_v the_o animal-man_n but_o the_o natural_a man_n 1_o cor._n 2._o 14._o i_o hope_v then_o it_o be_v not_o my_o singular_a opinion_n that_o person_n unconvert_v ought_v not_o to_o receive_v what_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o calvin_n beza_n and_o their_o follower_n be_v well_o know_v therefore_o i_o shall_v not_o trouble_v my_o reader_n about_o it_o let_v we_o descend_v to_o the_o lutheran_n church_n of_o who_o consent_n with_o we_o in_o this_o particular_a gerhard_n a_o person_n of_o great_a learning_n and_o industry_n give_v a_o satisfactory_a account_n in_o his_o 5_o tom_n treat_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n cap._n 21._o his_o word_n be_v these_o neque_fw-la verò_fw-la omnes_fw-la christiani_n promiscùe_fw-la admittendi_fw-la ad_fw-la sacram_fw-la coenam_fw-la sed_fw-la juxta_fw-la regulam_fw-la paulinam_fw-la 1_o cor._n 11._o next_o he_o show_v who_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v and_o 1._o such_o as_o either_o can_v or_o will_v not_o examine_v themselves_o particular_o heretic_n notorious_a sinner_n and_o here_o he_o argue_v from_o the_o analogy_n of_o the_o passover_n and_o from_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 11._o person_n excommunicate_v possess_v that_o be_v deprive_v the_o use_n of_o reason_n that_o exeroise_n infamous_a art_n or_o trade_n show_v in_o what_o case_n deaf_a and_o dumb_a person_n may_v be_v admit_v upon_o what_o account_n infant_n be_v admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n for_o 600_o year_n together_o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n and_o produce_v chrysostom_n profess_v that_o he_o have_v rather_o lose_v his_o life_n then_o admit_v unworthy_a person_n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n he_o note_v further_a against_o bellarmine_n that_o the_o hussites_n admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n infant_n of_o six_o week_n old_a and_o for_o my_o part_n i_o believe_v that_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o unworthiness_n there_o be_v less_o exception_n against_o a_o infant_n then_o against_o a_o gross_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a person_n cap._n 22._o gerhard_n have_v these_o word_n sedulo_fw-la providere_fw-la debet_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la minister_n ne_fw-la quis_fw-la indignè_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la sine_fw-la verâ_fw-la poenit_fw-la entia_fw-la &_o fide_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramento_n utatur_fw-la whence_o its_o evident_a he_o judge_v they_o unworthy_a who_o want_v true_a faith_n and_o repentance_n chapter_n see_v sect._n 232_o of_o the_o same_o chapter_n who_o do_v not_o try_v themselves_o that_o be_v who_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v their_o sin_n do_v not_o serious_o grieve_v for_o they_o do_v not_o judge_v themselves_o have_v not_o a_o serious_a purpose_n of_o amendment_n and_o walk_v regular_o that_o be_v not_o reconcile_v to_o their_o neighbour_n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n he_o grant_v that_o 1_o cor._n 10._o 20._o be_v valid_a to_o prove_v that_o they_o who_o have_v fellowship_n with_o devil_n ought_v not_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o show_v out_o of_o lyranus_fw-la and_o by_o compare_v other_o text_n of_o scripture_n that_o the_o can_v there_o must_v be_v understand_v of_o a_o moral_a impossibility_n yea_o last_o the_o very_a papist_n themselves_o be_v strong_o against_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o free_a admission_n i_o shall_v produce_v only_a aestius_n and_o biell_n aestius_fw-la upon_o 1_o cor._n 11._o 27._o show_n first_o who_o receive_v unworthy_o to_o wit_n not_o only_o he_o who_o come_v irreverent_o as_o mr._n humphrey_n will_v have_v it_o but_o also_o he_o qui_fw-la affectum_fw-la gerit_fw-la aut_fw-la reatum_fw-la peccati_fw-la mortalis_fw-la and_o though_o their_o distinction_n of_o sin_n into_o mortal_a and_o venial_a be_v corrupt_a yet_o see_v they_o conclude_v he_o be_v in_o mortal_a sin_n who_o 1._o affect_v sin_n 2_o lie_n be_v not_o due_o humble_v and_o contrite_a 3_o lie_n be_v unpardoned_a see_v biel_n lib._n 4._o distinct_a 9_o quaest_n 2._o it_o be_v evident_a they_o must_v needs_o conclude_v that_o none_o in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n can_v receive_v worthy_o yea_o aestius_n in_o the_o forequote_v place_n note_n that_o he_o who_o come_v to_o receive_v with_o a_o spirit_n of_o enmity_n against_o god_n yet_o unreconciled_a be_v guilty_a of_o high_a treason_n against_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o deserve_v to_o be_v puninish_v as_o judas_n who_o betray_v christ_n and_o those_o who_o spit_v upon_o he_o bind_v and_o crucify_v he_o further_o upon_o 1_o cor._n 11._o 28._o he_o show_v 1._o that_o every_o one_o be_v bind_v first_o to_o examine_v himself_o whether_o he_o be_v a_o fit_a guest_n and_o if_o he_o find_v he_o be_v not_o he_o must_v labour_v to_o be_v such_o a_o one_o by_o purge_v his_o conscience_n from_o sin_n which_o make_v he_o unworthy_a of_o the_o lord_n table_n the_o council_n of_o trent_n sess_n 3._o cap._n 7._o beside_o contrition_n require_v sacramental_a confession_n where_o it_o can_v be_v have_v of_o all_o sort_n before_o they_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o they_o ground_n partly_o upon_o that_o precept_n of_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 11._o 28._o and_o partly_o upon_o a_o ecclesiastical_a custom_n it_o seem_v they_o be_v not_o for_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o free_a admission_n but_o judge_v that_o before_o receive_v satisfaction_n shall_v be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n though_o in_o determine_v what_o that_o satisfaction_n must_v be_v they_o decline_v to_o superstition_n and_o tyranny_n in_o the_o ancient_a lyturgy_n the_o minister_n before_o the_o sacrament_n cry_v out_o sancta_fw-la sanctis_fw-la see_v other_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n cite_v there_o by_o aestius_n and_o several_a argument_n he_o use_v to_o prove_v that_o no_o natural_a man_n ought_v to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n upon_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 11._o the_o same_o aestius_n have_v these_o word_n his_o verbis_fw-la excommunicationis_fw-la poena_fw-la significatur_fw-la minor_fw-la tamen_fw-la ea_fw-la quâ_fw-la superius_fw-la plecti_fw-la voluit_fw-la incestum_fw-la illum_fw-la where_o he_o also_o cite_v augustine_n as_o refer_v the_o place_n to_o a_o lesser_a degree_n of_o excommunication_n which_o may_v fall_v upon_o he_o who_o be_v a_o brother_n and_o so_o a_o church-member_n and_o upon_o 2_o thess_n 3._o 6._o he_o express_o say_v haec_fw-la excommunicatio_fw-la non_fw-la à _fw-la consortio_fw-la fidelium_fw-la sed_fw-la tantùm_fw-la à _fw-la sacramentis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la removet_fw-la hominem_fw-la and_o upon_o verse_n 15._o of_o this_o chapter_n excommunicatio_fw-la huius_fw-la loci_fw-la non_fw-la separabat_fw-la hominem_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la ut_fw-la membrum_fw-la ejus_fw-la et_fw-la proinde_fw-la fidelium_fw-la frater_fw-la esse_fw-la de_fw-la sineret_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o which_o its_o evident_a they_o hold_v that_o positive_a suspension_n be_v 1._o a_o degree_n of_o excommunication_n 2_o lie_n that_o it_o do_v not_o unchurch_n a_o man_n 3_o lie_v that_o it_o be_v a_o bar_n to_o the_o sacrament_n our_o suspension_n which_o yet_o mr._n humphrey_n cry_v out_o of_o be_v but_o negative_a and_o so_o not_o a_o church_n censure_n but_o a_o entreaty_n to_o forbear_v till_o fit_v by_o competent_a knowledge_n etc._n etc._n to_o receive_v biell_n upon_o the_o sentence_n lib._n 4._o dislinct_n 9_o quaest_n 1._o effectus_fw-la eucharistiae_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la prima_fw-la gratia_fw-la quâ_fw-la justificatur_fw-la impius_fw-la sed_fw-la illam_fw-la praesupponit_fw-la effectus_fw-la enim_fw-la manducationis_fw-la eucharistiae_fw-la est_fw-la gratiae_fw-la augmentum_fw-la quâ_fw-la anima_fw-la deo_fw-la gratae_fw-la nutritur_fw-la et_fw-la crescit_fw-la in_o gratia_fw-la ut_fw-la ad_fw-la perfectionem_fw-la perveniat_fw-la the_o papist_n then_o acknowledge_v the_o lord_n supper_n be_v no_o convert_v ordinance_n in_o the_o second_o question_n he_o show_v that_o diverse_a by_o come_v to_o receive_v sin_n mortal_o and_o withal_o that_o in_o some_o case_n if_o a_o man_n be_v scrupulous_a and_o fear_v he_o be_v under_o the_o guilt_n of_o mortal_a sin_n he_o must_v lay_v aside_o such_o a_o scrupulous_a conscience_n before_o he_o receive_v but_o must_v not_o receive_v against_o conscience_n he_o show_v also_o out_o of_o other_o schoolman_n in_o what_o case_n a_o minister_n sin_n if_o he_o admit_v such_o to_o receive_v and_o instance_n as_o the_o lutheran_n in_o divers_a sort_n of_o church-member_n that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v and_o conclude_v that_o nulli_fw-la danda_fw-la est_fw-la eucharistia_n qui_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la habere_fw-la devotionem_fw-la nec_fw-la fidem_fw-la actualem_fw-la and_o for_o the_o instance_n of_o judas_n mr._n humphrey_n his_o great_a foundation_n for_o free_a admission_n both_o lutheran_n and_o papist_n though_o of_o his_o mind_n that_o judas_n do_v receive_v yet_o look_v at_o it_o as_o no_o ground_n at_o all_o for_o the_o free_a admission_n of_o all_o intelligent_a church-member_n i_o hope_v mr._n humphrey_n will_v be_v more_o charitable_a then_o to_o say_v that_o council_n father_n the_o reform_a church_n lutheran_n yea_o divers_a papist_n put_v their_o hand_n over_o their_o eye_n and_o sin_v against_o light_n because_o they_o be_v not_o of_o his_o mind_n that_o judas_n
i_o hope_v by_o that_o if_o so_o he_o do_v not_o out_o of_o a_o bitter_a spirit_n question_v their_o piety_n if_o herein_o i_o be_o more_o charitable_a to_o he_o than_o he_o have_v be_v to_o i_o i_o hope_v he_o will_v not_o take_v it_o unkind_o my_o word_n p._n 140._o of_o my_o bar_n be_v these_o i_o hope_v that_o godly_a person_n if_o so_o be_v convert_v before_o mr._n h._n his_o embryon_n be_v hatch_v upon_o these_o very_a word_n mr._n h._n be_v please_v to_o charge_v i_o with_o self-conceit_n prejudice_n and_o a_o bitter_a spirit_n p._n 192._o when_o as_o himself_o in_o that_o very_a place_n where_o he_o quote_v mr._n baxter_n so_o blind_o p._n 48._o of_o his_o vindication_n give_v he_o in_o effect_n a_o if_o so_o in_o these_o word_n i_o can_v but_o be_v glad_a to_o find_v a_o pierce_a godly_a man_n i_o take_v he_o etc._n etc._n himself_o dare_v not_o say_v absolute_o he_o be_v a_o godly_a man_n but_o he_o take_v he_o to_o be_v so_o i_o say_v that_o godly_a man_n if_o so_o be_v convert_v before_o etc._n etc._n i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o judicious_a reader_n whether_o mr._n h._n or_o myself_o be_v more_o guilty_a of_o self-conceit_n prejudice_n and_o a_o bitter_a spirit_n withal_o what_o ever_o mr._n baxter_n judgement_n be_v for_o mr._n h._n his_o syllogism_n i_o be_o sure_a he_o be_v not_o of_o mr._n h._n his_o opinion_n for_o admit_v all_o pell-mell_o mr._n baxter_n be_v a_o person_n who_o i_o high_o honour_n in_o the_o lord_n though_o i_o can_v in_o every_o thing_n jurare_fw-la in_o verba_fw-la magistri_fw-la page_n 193._o mr._n h._n come_v to_o his_o syllogism_n whosoever_o believe_v shall_v be_v save_v i_o believe_v ergo_fw-la i_o shall_v be_v save_v p._n 141._o of_o my_o bar_n i_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v the_o conclusion_n of_o this_o syllogism_n i_o shall_v be_v save_v be_v seal_v in_o the_o sacrament_n my_o argument_n be_v draw_v from_o the_o general_a and_o particular_a promise_n joh._n 3._o 16._o and_o rom._n 10._o 9_o and_o confirm_v from_o the_o particular_a offer_n of_o grace_n and_o from_o the_o argument_n à _fw-fr genere_fw-la ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la see_v p._n 141._o and_o 142._o of_o my_o bar._n now_o what_o be_v promise_v in_o the_o covenant_n be_v seal_v in_o the_o sacrament_n mr._n h._n deny_v my_o argument_n and_o give_v his_o reason_n page_n 193._o because_o the_o covenant_n promise_v only_o conditional_o that_o i_o shall_v be_v save_v ans_fw-fr it_o have_v be_v former_o show_v that_o what_o be_v promise_v conditional_o be_v promise_v absolute_o where_o the_o condition_n be_v perform_v and_o what_o be_v promise_v in_o the_o covenant_n be_v seal_v in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o in_o this_o conditional_a proposition_n if_o mr._n h._n be_v a_o man_n he_o be_v a_o live_a creature_n i_o hope_v the_o conditionality_n of_o this_o proposition_n be_v no_o bar_n to_o the_o absoluteness_n of_o the_o consequent_a mr._n h._n be_v conditional_o a_o animal_n as_o be_v evident_a in_o the_o hypothesis_n yet_o he_o be_v absolute_o a_o animal_n too_o why_o because_o the_o condition_n of_o animality_n namely_o humanity_n be_v in_o he_o in_o like_a manner_n if_o timothy_n believe_v he_o shall_v be_v save_v the_o consequent_a timothy_n shall_v be_v save_v be_v absolute_a in_o sense_n because_o he_o have_v perform_v the_o condition_n of_o faith_n though_o it_o be_v conditional_a in_o term_n and_o that_o promise_v which_o say_v all_o that_o believe_v shall_v be_v save_v say_v timothy_n shall_v be_v save_v because_o timothy_n believe_v as_o he_o that_o say_v all_o man_n shall_v rise_v say_v timothy_n shall_v rise_v because_o timothy_n be_v a_o man_n note_v by_o the_o way_n that_o i_o do_v not_o say_v the_o conclusion_n be_v absolute_a to_o all_o but_o only_o to_o those_o who_o have_v perform_v or_o have_v in_o they_o the_o condition_n and_o withal_o that_o though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o he_o who_o once_o receive_v with_o faith_n shall_v be_v save_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o he_o who_o once_o receive_v without_o faith_n shall_v be_v damn_v as_o mr._n h._n absurd_o infer_v page_n 194._o since_o even_o a_o state_n of_o unbeleef_n do_v not_o prove_v absolute_o that_o i_o shall_v be_v damn_v but_o only_o that_o at_o present_a i_o be_o in_o a_o state_n of_o damnation_n much_o less_o do_v a_o receive_n once_o without_o faith_n infer_v any_o such_o direful_a conclusion_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o a_o state_n of_o unbeleef_n be_v changeable_a through_o grace_n but_o a_o state_n of_o faith_n be_v unchangeable_a through_o grace_n and_o one_o act_n of_o faith_n argue_v a_o state_n of_o faith_n but_o one_o omission_n of_o the_o act_n of_o faith_n do_v not_o argue_v a_o state_n of_o unbeleef_n ib._n his_o argument_n be_v too_o weak_a to_o convince_v my_o distinction_n of_o weakness_n for_o though_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o offer_n and_o promise_n be_v all_o one_o yet_o that_o grace_n may_v be_v offer_v absolute_o which_o be_v not_o accept_v but_o no_o grace_n be_v promise_v absolute_o which_o be_v not_o or_o shall_v not_o be_v accept_v mr._n d._n where_o the_o condition_n be_v perform_v there_o the_o promise_n be_v absolute_a mr._n h._n ib._n i_o deny_v it_o what_o be_v but_o upon_o supposition_n be_v not_o absolute_a you_o may_v say_v it_o be_v as_o good_a to_o i_o as_o if_o it_o be_v absolute_a it_o be_v certain_a there_o lie_v the_o equivocation_n but_o how_o be_v it_o certain_a not_o absolute_o certain_a as_o election_n be_v but_o conditional_o certain_a for_o the_o promise_n be_v still_o the_o same_o and_o no_o new_a promise_n answ_n 1._o if_o a_o conditional_a promise_n be_v as_o good_a to_o i_o as_o if_o it_o be_v absolute_a that_o be_v certain_z then_o m._n h._n do_v but_o wrangle_v about_o term_n grant_v the_o believer_n salvation_n be_v certain_a as_o if_o it_o be_v absolute_a we_o have_v enough_o and_o its_o evident_a there_o be_v a_o wide_a difference_n between_o the_o conditionality_n of_o peter_n and_o judas_n his_o salvation_n since_o peter_n conditional_a 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