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A88105 Light for smoke: or, A cleare and distinct reply by Iohn Ley, one of the Assembly of Divines at Westminster, to a darke and confused answer in a booke made, and intituled The smoke in the temple, by Iohn Saltmarsh, late preacher at Brasteed in Kent, now revolted both from his pastorall calling and charge. Whereto is added, Novello-mastix, or a scourge for a scurrilous news-monger. Ley, John, 1583-1662.; C. D. Novello-mastix. 1646 (1646) Wing L1883; Thomason E333_2; Thomason E333_3; ESTC R200742 90,377 128

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xvi_o of_o the_o presbyterial_a and_o independent_a government_n how_o affect_v the_o slow_a proceed_n of_o the_o church_n government_n make_v no_o argument_n for_o it_o nor_o mention_v to_o the_o disparagement_n of_o the_o parliament_n mr._n saltm_n bring_v the_o parliament_n authority_n under_o popular_a liberty_n of_o the_o wheat_n in_o independent_a congregation_n smoke_n pag._n 38._o prove_v your_o argument_n government_n you_o will_v say_v first_o to_o be_v christ_n the_o particular_n and_o entireness_n according_o and_o then_o i_o shall_v allow_v you_o your_o argument_n but_o you_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v but_o partly_o christ_n partly_o the_o assembly_n or_o of_o prudence_n light_n it_o be_v no_o part_n of_o my_o undertake_n to_o prove_v the_o presbyterial_a government_n to_o be_v christ_n government_n nor_o be_v it_o needful_a so_o to_o do_v for_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o where_o it_o be_v do_v already_o which_o no_o man_n have_v refute_v nor_o can_v do_v nor_o be_v it_o 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