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A18920 Errour on the right hand, through a preposterous zeale Acted by way of dialogue. Betweene 1 Mal-content and Flyer. 2 Flyer and Anabaptist. 3 Anabaptist, & Legatine-arrian. 4 Flyer and Legatine-arrian. 5 Flier, Legaine-arria[n] & Familist. 6 Flyer and Familist. 7 Flyer and Mediocritie. Whereto is also added, certaine positions touching Church and Antichrist: as without the true holding thereof, it is impossible for a zelous soule, to auoyde either schisme or faction. By Henoch Clapham. Clapham, Henoch. 1608 (1608) STC 5341; ESTC S118639 27,520 96

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in life Legat. arr Au the Author of your Religion is H. N. or Henrie Nicolaite the Germaine Familist The Characters H. N. be Characters in the diuine beeing and not for flesh blood to attaine to They be Characters of the Prophet of Loue as α and ω the Greeke Alpha and Omega be Characters in the Reuelation of the prophet of Grace or rather of the Louely-beeing whom onely the spirit of Wisedome can attaine to Legat. ar You are all in your Louely-beeinges specially when you are all gathered into your Church called Paradis● and there being naked and not ashamed Familist Floute not Brother at the Louelybe●ing nor at the power exhibited of the diuine influence vnto such as are Deified and God in them Hominified Such perfection is in the Family of loue as nothing mooueth in them but Christ and the anoynted Lou● Legat. ar What make you then of this flesh or earthly body Familist That deare brother is nothing but the Beastes skinne wherewith God clothed Adam which is in the end to turne backe into the mother-earth the spirit being then clothed with a garment that is from heauen all beautified with the Louely-beeing Flyer Surely this man speaketh deepe matter It halfe astonisheth mee Legat. ar Your H. N. hath giuen you a Testament far beyond the Bibles Testament Familist Flout not Brother for the Louely-beeing teacheth all loue and meekenes with all simplicitie Did not Iohn a man full of the Louely-beeing did he not in Reuel 14.6 see an Euerlasting Go●pell caryed through the middest of Heauen to be preached to this last age for the former Gospell perished by the power of the Beast The two Prophets Fayth and Loue were staine by him and their carcases onely remayned in the streetes of the Harlots Citie that is the spirit and life of Fayth and Loue were gone and only a litle outward profession of them left in the Beastes congregation Leaue your Scripture-lea●nednesse and submit your selfe to the spirit of Lo●● and you shall not neede to be taught any thing but as that spirit shall teach you Legat. ar You are a paltry Heretique for calling the Bibles fayth by the name of Scripture-learnednes Familist Deare Brother rayle not but submit your selfe to the Louely-beeing Legat. arr You are a louely-Asse and there is a louely boxe on the eare for you Famalist Will you prouoke mee Will you prouoke mee Legat. ar Why a sir foole your opinion of Loue is against fighting Famalist Doe not prouoke mee brother for though I am of that opinion I am yet clothed with the old flesh Flyer Arrian take vp there your fardle of Lystes and be your owne Porter I perceiue the Diuell raging in thee and the spirit of Loue in him And were it not that the Louely-beeing forbids me I would coniure the Diuell in you with this Cudgell Muffe not speake not take vp your lowsy-Lystes and packe about your businesse or I protest by the veritie of my Fayth I will teach you to abuse the Louely-beeing No Church No Christian Then vaunt Dogge damn'd of thine owne conscience Familist Louely Brother feed your enemie but beat him not Come Brother and we will turne vpon the right hand and so walke togither in peace according to the instinct of the Louely-beeing The Port-bell ringes it is now about the eleuenth hower The Gates will quickly shut vp for dinner time And therefore we will leaue off talke till we come ●o some Taphuis sparing our tongues and taking more of our legges Flyer With heart and good will O reuerend father of Loue. THE SIXT DIALOGVE betweene Flyer and Familist Familist NOw M. Flyer you are welcome to my Slaep-huis I am glad wee be to freed of the proud brabling Arrian He● holdes that the Sonne of God was the beginning of creatures that is in his sense the first creature that the Father created as his companion the Lemurist doth also hold him to be that created Light which Moses sayth was called out of darknesse and this because S. Iohn doth call the Word by the tearme Light All these hereticall conceites do flow from their literall senses of Scripture being farre from vnderstanding the hid thinges of the Law Therevpon also insueth the dissentions and fyerie contentions of all ●eretiques euery one maintayning ●is owne sense with Fire and Fagot ●hereas the spirit of Loue teacheth ●is people to be peaceaple with all ●nd in all outward ceremonies and ●eruices to be plyant to all men and ●heir lawes becomming all vnto all ●or winning of some at least for their owne peaceable being in the seruice of the Loue. Flyer To say the trueth I can see neither Papist nor Protestant Brownist nor other but they be voyde of that Loue that should abound towardes all as Gods loue is towardes all And that is a plaine signe that God is not amongst them Famalist Sure your selfe so But it will not be amisse Brother now we be a litle cooled to drinke a draught of Beere Tannikin Tannakin tap de kan Tannikin See you brother that cherry-cheeked Damsell that tooke vp there the Stoop-kan Flyer Yes and a very proper Mayden as I haue seene Famalist Could you behold her naked and not lust Flyer No man were able to doe that Familist O you 'r deceiued There is no one Goddifyed amongst vs but can behold many of them naked without any carnall lusting And were no● that perfection heere to he had then the second Adam should be inferiour to the first Adam and so consequently no true recouerie of Apostacie nor entrance into Paradise Flyer Is it possible that I should euer come vnto that perfection Familist Yea submitting your selfe to the Louely-beeing You must first walke through the first dayes worke which God createth then through the second after through the third fourth and fift Comming afterwardes to the sixt day you shall become an Adam made in the likenesse of God and shall behold Euah naked and neuer be ashamed Flyer This soundeth somewhat which you speake but I vnderstand it not Familist Come Tannikin how dost thou Wench let vs kisse and tell me how thy pretty body doth Flyer Why how now sir Are you a man that is Goddifyed and hanges at a Wenches lippes so wantonly Familist O sir she is of the seed of the Louely-beeing We but Loue we lust not as you and others would that be out of the Louely-beeing Flyer Louely-beeing call you it Keepe your Loues your Lusts to your selfe God giue me to see mine owne home againe There is money for the Beere and adue leaud leacherous Familist Familist I pray thee sweete Brother stay and take knowledge of the Beeing that is in Loue. Flyer That 's inough for Tannikin to take knowledge of For my part I can neither looke nor thinke of you but I shal be truely ashamed and therefore adue you shamelesse companions O Lord pardon my great sinne committed against thy Church in England and for thy Sonnes sake bring mee
ERROVR On the Right hand through a preposterous Zeale Acted by way of Dialogue 1 Betweene Mal-content and Flyer 2 Betweene Flyer and Anabaptist 3 Betweene Anabaptist Legatine-arrian 4 Betweene Flyer and Legatine-arrian 5 Betweene Flier Legatine-arriā Familist 6 Betweene Flyer and Familist 7 Betweene Flyer and Mediocritie Whereto is also added certaine Positions touching Church and Antichrist as without the true holding thereof it is impossible for a zelous soule to auoyde either Schisme or Faction By Henoch Clapham Eccles. 7. 18 Be not thou iust ouer-much neither make thy selfe ouer-wise wherefore shouldst thou be desolate 19. Be not thou wicked ouer-much nor be thou foolish wherefore shouldst thou perish not in thy time Imprinted at London by W. White dwelling in Cow-lane 1608. TO EVERY SOVLE that seeketh after Trueth in humilitie for God resisteth the Proud and giueth Grace to the Humble OVR Sauiour fore-seeing that many vnder the cloake of Going out of Babel would go out of the Church saying Here is Christ there is Christ he chargeth his Folowers not to beleeue them much lesse to goe out This wickednesse is growen now so excellent as if the true Christ could not be found otherwhere then without in Woods Mikes by-Stables Barnes and Hay-loftes wherevpon all the speach now is Goe out goe out of Babel come into the secret places Our Sauiour foreseeing that Woluish-teachers should come to the people in Sheepes-skinnes that is in Sheepe-like conuersation and by such sheepish outward moralitie labour to couer their Woluish pricking Schismaticall Doctrine for Doctrine is the fruite there spoken of their outward cariage being otherwise Sheepish he sayth to his true Folowers Yee shall know them by their fruites that is you onely that be indued with the true spirit of meekenes lowlines shall know them by the Fruite of their lippes their schismaticall Doctrine They shall haue the name of Prophets a verie good name and their outward cariage shal be like to Christes sheepe a very commendable thing and able to draw many but examine once the fruite of their lippes issuing from them as Prophets Tunc Lupus est in fabula t hen he is a deuowring Wolfe howsoeuer he say as some did in Esaias time Stand apart come not neere to mee for I am holier then thou And of such sort sayth the Apostle vnto Timothy are these which creepe into houses and lead captiue simple women laden with sinnes led with diuers lustes which women are euer learning and are neuer able to come to the knowledge of the truth The Spirit of Prophecie hauing so plainely fore-prophesied of our times and false-spirites what are we that we should be negligent in trying the spirits whether they be of God And seeing that these spirituall Wolues shall for their outwarde cariage and life seeme to be Christes Sheepe and poore innocent Lambes and for that many times be more worthy reuerence then some of the truest Teachers it standeth people therefore vpon not to be caryed with a few painted flimflams but by the speare of Discretion to gage the side of the Grecians wooden Horse for trying out whether the inwardes be not planted with engines of death Latet anguis in herba the fairest face hath not alwayes the truest heart Satan in policie would haue his Seminaries in th'outwarde appearance to excell Christes Ministers that so as them selues be deceiued they may likewise deceiue others As for the true Ministers of Christ Satan must needs labour to spot them outwardly seeing he cannot keepe backe the doctrinall sappe of Gods spirit which distilling from the lippes of the Teacher is to beget and feed many Herevpon it is that true Doctrine is often reiected because of some externall want in the Teacher And againe because of some excellent commendable outward things in a Duckfrier or a smooth Pharise any doctrine is easily swallowed be it schismaricall hereticall or trayterous A plaine signe that such people are yet destitute of that spirit whereby they should be able to try Doctrine and discerne Spirits And not onely that but also full of giddy passions and head-strong affections as wil appeare in the ensuing Dialogues where the very naturall character of such spirits is by mee set downe not without sundrie yeares experience had of them all as also with no small expences If thine heart be vn-hardned it will easily ioyne with mee If otherwise yet herein I shall be comforted that in this worke I haue serued God and his Church truly though weakely If something in the Conferrours seeme too light consider first it is but the naturall character of that spirit and secondly that it is but as a feeling of that spirites pulse without any commoration or dwelling vppon it As I could I haue done If it please it is that I pray for if it displease any I shall through Gods grace not onely peaceably passe by it but also with patience awayte the change of their iudgement and affection Farewell Thine as he may He. Clapham THE FIRST DIALOGVE Betweene Mal-content and Flyer Mal-content Mal-content WEll ouertaken Sir how farre do you trauaile this way Flyer Flyer So farr as Grauesend Mal-con So doe I Sir God blesse vs in our iornaie Flyer I cannot say Amen to your Prayer Mal-con Why sir Would you not be blessed in your iornaie Flyer Yes but in saying Amen to your Prayer I should testifie my selfe to be one in spirituall communion with you Whereas if you be that Mal-content which I sometimes haue seene at the Royal-exchange you are a notable lim of Antichrist and of all the Protestants the most hipocriticall for you say do not You say that the Church-gouernement in England is Antichristian that is opposite vnto the true Christ and yet with Isachar you beare the burden of the Sonne of perdition and say that rest is good whereas you ought for redemption of your soule to Fly out of Babel Mal-con Pardon sir I thinke I should know you Is not your name M. Flyer Flyer It is and I charge you in paine of damnation to fly out of Babel Mal-con First it is a question sir if so the Church of England may be truly called Babel Secondly if so it should be prooued a Babel the question is whether I may goe out of Babel without the Kinges leaue First for that Israel came not out of Aegipt before Pharaoh gaue them leaue And secondly for that the lewes came not out of Babel till Cyrus gaue them leaue I pray you sir therefore let mee heare what you can say first for the proouing it Babel secondly for our lawfull flight from it Flyer O sir Mal-content haue not you your selfe taught in word and writing specially in your suites to Parliament that the true gouernment of Christ Iesus consisting in Pastors Doctors Elders Deacons and Wydowes is lacking and that Antichrist in the roome thereof hath foysted in the gouernment of Arch-bishops Lord Bishops c. who with their
Flyer Me thinkes it should be true that the ●●ues of Satan should onely serue ●atan in their ministrie as the Gally●aues with Ores do serue the Turkes Lieftenant Anabapt A very good comparison whose Seruant one is his workes they doe For no one can serue two Maisters specially so crosse as Christ and Antichrist Flyer I pray you sir then what be the Ar●●cles of your fayth Anabap. For that friend remember what is written in Ezek. 43.11 When they be ashamed of all that they haue done shew ●●em the forme of the house and the pat●●rne thereof and the going out thereof and ●he comming in thereof and all the fashion thereof and all the ordinaunces thereof c. ●●ploying thus much that the Holy mysteries are not to be reuealed but ●nely to such a soule as is first asha●ed of all by-pathes of false worship ●or the Childrens Bread is not to be ●st vnto Dogs that will ball against ●●e trueth nor Pearles vnto Hogs ●●at wallow in their owne shame Flyer I am ashamed of my standing not only with the Protestant but also with the Separist and Priuate and I firmely betake my selfe to your Fayth till death vs depart Anabapt The Deaw of heauen come vpon you To morrow I will bring you into our sacred Congregation that so you may come to be informed in the Fayth and after that to be purely Baptized Flyer Thankes reuerend man of God I thinke sir you are some Minister your selfe Anabapt That word Minister fitteth not I am a Prophet of the Lord spoken of in the eleuenth of the Reuelation which in homely apparaile as Sackcloth doe bewayle the peoples sinnes protesting against the Beast that come out of the bottomlesse Pitte And as I had in vision this night the Beast in time shall put mee to death for the Holy testimonie But an Angell hath comforted mee and sayth that before that time I shall turne the hearts of many Fathers to the Children and the heartes of Children to the Fathers least otherwise the great power should smite the Earth with cursing Flyer O sir mee thinkes the spirit of life is entred ho●te into mee Mee thinkes I could leape into that passage-Cart and prophecie Fire vpon England and all English Sectaries Anabapt Stay holy Proselite thou must first be Baptized and haue some diuine Vision from aboue And so being made a perfect Em●usiast thou shalt be able to turne backe the Floodes of Iordane But stay one is at our heeles If wee fall into any talke of Religion lay you your hand of your mouth and be silent Flyer I will O miraculous Prophet THE THIRD DIALOGVE Betweene Anabaptist and the Legatine-Arrian Legatine-Arrian WEll ouer-taken Father goe you vnto Midleburghe Anabap. I doe sir. Legat. ar I would be glad of your company and so much the rather for that you are gray-headed and Moses commaundeth such Youth as I am to rise vp before t●● gray-headed Anabap. Thou sayst well sonne and I am glad thou readest Moses with some obseruance Legat. ar Without such diuine reading and obseruatiō Man is worse then a Dog What religion are you of Father Anabapt Of the true Christian religion Legat. ar Professed according to what what forme Father For the Papistes professe him according to one forme the Protestants after another forme and so the Puritaines Brownistes Anabaptistes and others Anabapt I professe him sonne after that manner which is reuiled by the name of Anabaptistes though Ana-baptisme or R●-baptization is a thing we be not ashamed of but rather glory in as hauing onely power from the Lord to deliuer that seale of Baptisme Legat. ar Are you Baptized then Anabapt I am sonne Legat. ar And I am of minde that there is no true Baptisme vpon the earth Anabapt Not in the earth I pray thee sonne say not so The co●●●egation I am of can and doth administer true Baptisme Legat. arr Say you so Father Your congregation as appeareth in Sleydan is but as of the last day Was not the true Church according to S. Iohns Uision in the Reuelation to be for manie yeares inuisible and not to be seene in the earth Anabapt That is certainely true And so I thinke my Brother that heere walketh with vs your countryman forsooth is accordingly minded Flyer I am Legat. ar I am of the same minde and therefore conclude therevpon thus The Church being to be latent and inuisible for many yeares so that her place was no more to be found it must accordingly follow that there could be no more a visible Church till some notable men were surred vp of God to raise it againe out of the dust Anabapt I graunt that And notable men haue we had Legat. ar The men that began the frame of the Church of Israel were Moses and Aaron The men that began the New-testaments Church were the Apostles All these were furnished with the guift of Myracles for the perswading of their hearers For without Myracle they could not be beleeued to come from God for establishing a new Church-pollicie Now Father who were the first layers of your Churches foundation They must bring Myracles with them or who but mad-men will take them for new Founders Anabapt My sonne wee haue had sundry men that haue been myraculous Legat. arr Indeed Sleidan recordeth your Snapper-doling and some others that were marueilous for their Dreames wherevpon they practised all filthines and intollerable bloodshed But to passe by that and the like Of whom had the first of your people his Baptisme The first had it doubtlesse in the Church of Rome and so consequently from Antichrist and Adam the first being impure we that follow can be no better As is the first fruite so be the branches New Baptisme there can not be till there come new Apostles New Apostles there can not be who are not endued from aboue with myracles Myracles we heare of none onely of idle Dreames and so consequently no true Baptisme in the earth nor any one true visible Christian Anabapt Doe you not beleeue your selfe to be one Legat. arr Not for alter an vtter ceassing of visible Christianitie there can be no raysing vp of that worke to visible appearance till Ministers haue begun it who may by Myracle confirme their calling For not our Sauiour Christ would so much as abolish the Shadow and establish the Substaunce but he would first vnto the people cleare his calling by an effectuall declaration of Myracles And what are you that you should be beleeued of your bare words Anabap. I perceiue sonne that thou art against all Churches and all Churches against thee as was the hand of flouting Israel turned out of Abrahams house the father of beleeuers Legat. ar You are au old Dunse to liken mee vnto Ismael a figure of Reprobates For you and others once graunting that y e Church according to that in the Reuelation chap. 6.14 represented by the Heauens departing once away as a Scrowle when it is rowled must needes therevpon conclude that
and he sayd that it was so in the Origenall but I will neuer beleeue it Flyer No sir these limmes of Antichrist are not to be beleeued Legat. ar Hold you there and I will assure you to become an excellent Diuine in short time But we are come vnto the Citie Where meane you to lodge Flyer I haue Letters to deliuer vnto some English-factors and they be to supply mee with necessaries But tell mee where I may find you to morrow morning and I will be early with you Legat. ar Harken then come thither early and there you shall haue me But by eight of the clocke I purpose to set towards Camphere a league of that is some three English myles and so I will teach you a Mysterie touching Christ which you neuer learned Flyer I thanke you sir and I will willingly attende THE FIFT DIALOGVE First betweene the Flyer and the Legatine-arrian secondly betweene the Legatine-arrian and the Familist Flyer GOod morrow sir are you setting on your iorney Legat. ar I am But I want meanes yet for conueying a Bundle of Listes Flyer Doe you then deale in Cloth-listes I haue heard that it is a very good Marchandize Well sir if they be no moe then these I can easily carry them vnder my Cloake Legat. ar I thanke you for it you shall so saue me a few Styphers Flyer I haue coucht them vnder my arme very well Let vs now set on our way And I pray you sir now discourse of the Christ as you last night promised Legat. ar I will If you marke all the limmes of Antichrist whether Papist or Protestant or Anabaptist you shall find them ignoraunt euery of them of the true Christ. The Papist and Protestant doe hold him God and Man So doth the Anabaptist but with a difference The first hold that he is very God essentially and very Man of man essentially Yet seeing the word Essentially seemeth to be deriued of the Beastes language I will rather vse the word Substantially Flyer And I thinke sir that that word sauours somewhat of Romulus for I remember that in their Latine Grammer there is Substantinum hic h●●c hoc Legat. ar O you begin to abounde with the true Spirit that will lead you into all trueth But Country-man as the Apostle could not sayle thorow the Seas but in the Shippe whose badge was the prophaine Castor and Pollux so neither can wee sayle thorow these Discourses but in wordes stamped with the Image of the Beast Flyer O most excellent Theologue I neuer obserued that comparison Legat. ar You shall heare more excellent thinges then these How the Protestant and Papist doe hold Christ wee haue learned at home Now for the Dowper that is the Anabaptist he holdeth him very God passing through the Virgins wombe as Wind through a pipe taking nothing of our nature because then he should be a sinner but bringing a bodily substance with him from Heauen whether fetcht out of the Fathers diuine substaunce or out of the Angels spirituall substaunce or out of the Heauens substaunce they know not But the very trueth is Hee is to be held a meere Man as was Peter Paul or I Onely whereas we haue the Spirit in measure and were borne in sinne hee had the Spirit beyond measure and was borne free from sinne As for the Scriptures t●arming him sometimes GOD it intendeth not his Essence but his office and you know that in such respect the Magistrate is called God And herewith all let me tell you how lately in England I gaue a Magistrate the bagge I being conuented before him he beginnes to puffe he strokes vp his forehead and then sotted out this question Syrrha doe you hold that Iesus Christ is but meere man as I or an other man is To whom I answered They abuse mee and haue abused your eares that haue reported any such thing of mee Then quoth he againe doe you deny Christ to be God To whom I answered No sir I do verily beleeue that he is God Doe you so That doe I quoth I. Then quoth he thou art of mine owne Religion Fare-fall thy heart for so satisfying mee and my learned Brother here Goe thy wayes thou art an honest-man I warrant thee And so was I quickly dispatched The foolish Flat-cap thought that by my graunting Christ to be God I had meant as he meant namely God by Nature whereas I meant God by Office Flyer O notable learning rare learning Legat. ar Now sir it being meere Man that sinned it must be meere Man that must satisfie Gods iustice and therefore at first preached That the Womans seed should breake the Serpents head As also that Hee should be a Seed deriued from Abram from Daui● from the Fathers which accordingly in his time came to passe and accordingly by suffring the ignominious death of the Crosse he satisfied for man the righteous dying for the vnrighteous Bu● stay is he not some English-man that runneth after vs Flyer I thinke sir it is one of the Hydutch that passed in our Shippe An odde fellow I weene if so one could found out his Religion Legat. ar Lay your Fardle downe and that shall seeme cause of our staying But what causeth you to thinke he is of some odde Religion Flyer For that in some discourse betweene him another he seemed to conclude that the Serpent which tempted Eue was but some creeping crookednesse of mínde wynding from God As also that Christ and Antichrists were no reall persons but fashions of minde Legat. ar Au au I know then what he is he is a plaine Familist They teach all their rudiments to their Children by a familiar kind of Play which they tearme The Interlude of Mindes It was penned by one H. N. an Hy-dutchman who also hath left in wryting very many Bookes of that abstruse kind of learning Some of our late Brownistes are entred into that Familie I know a Weauer in L●ndon he was sometimes a Clothier of Somerset-shire and after that first a Brownist then an Anabaptist now a Familist he will say that now in one quarter of an hower whilst he is in his Loome he can comprehend farre greater Reuelations of the spirit then whilst he was out of that Family he could in his whole life But say you nothing I will seeme ignorant what he is Familist Sacrament a Godt how weary I am in running after you M. Flyer Flyer I thought it was you Hans Legat. ar And you be not out of breath sir I would we might talke of Religion Familist Marry best of all and the spirit of Loue be our direction Legat. arr What Religion I pray you be you of Familist Seeing you manifest your selues to be religiously affected and secondly seeing we are out of the shot of the Magistrate I shall freely tell you what I am I am of the Holy family of Loue a Family in God and in whom God is for God is Loue. And out of this Loue there is no beeing
to be truly reconciled to that Church againe I returne I returne sweete Father of Heauen keepe me in my returne The Seuenth Dialogue betweene Flyer and Mediocritie Flyer WHO is that which goes afore myne old friende Mediocritie Medocri What M. Flyer I heard you were gone beyond-sea Flyer I haue been beyond sea a few dayes This foreroone I but landed and so am setting homewardes as fast as I can Mediocri I pray you what a Land is it you hane been in Flyer Surely I can not tell All the time was there taken vp with the matter 〈◊〉 the Tongue as I had no leasure to suruay the subiect of my Feete Bu● this I am sure that a man can not passe there by the by-way but he shall be assaulted with one transformed spirit or another Neuer in my life did I meete with such Heretiques and deceitfull Hypocrites Had I not seene heard and felt I should neuer haue beleeued Mediocri I am glad that you haue learned by Experience what you would neuer learne by my tender Information But I pray you How stand you now affected for Religion Flyer Stand quoth yee I haue been so much acquainted with falling as I know not well what to say vnto standing Meeting with an Anabaptist and vnderstanding the groundes of my Separation he by strength of the same groundes did beat me from that hold and spite my heart made me to graunt a separation from Doctrine so well as from Discipline so that I was ready to turne Anabaptist Then I met with a Legatine-arrian a perilous fellow hee vpon the graunt of no visible-Church for the time of Antichristes raigne did vnauoydably conclude that neither any visible Church could yet be till God raysed vp new Apostles who might with Doctrine and Myracles gather people to the true Fayth and so incommend vnto them the Sacramentes and other Ordinaunces To him ouernight I consented but harke what fell out the next day in the morning Next day I met with a Familist Hee by his talke of Loue Loue and the beeing in Loue and nothing but Loue so preuayled togither with his running glozing on Scripture as I left all to follow him till I see his beeing in loue and lu●t with Tannikin the Tapūer which shamefull sight made mee to bid Fie on them all And turning my face homewardes againe I pluckt vp my feete to Flushing I came stayde the winde a while had shipping readie and to Grauesend I came in a few howers God haue the prayse for all his mercies Me●ioc● Then I hope that you will returne againe to vnitie with our Church Flyer If I doe not so I must turne Turke for any thing I yet see I am ●omwhat ashamed to returne First for ●hat I should be thought to be vncon●●ant and yet constancie in a Schisme ●s but obduration in ill Secondly I ●●care to become a ●●ast vnto many for ●auing so foolishly consumed my Pa●trimonie and yet better be flouted at ●f a few me● for a time then to be perpetually iea●ed at of Diuels Mediocri Brother brother be contented to beare your shame for passed folly Know and reuerence your Mother not withstanding her wantes Her wantes be of the By not of the Mayne She hath the Word of eternall life then whither will you goe Antichristianisme as I often told you consistes not in euery ill for then euery soule vnder heauen should be Antichristian but it consistes in such an euill as is fundamentally opposite to the Ghospell that is to the Doctrine of Fayth For which cause the Apostle ●earmeth Antichrist such an Aduersary as is Antikeimenos the layer of an opposite foundation And such a one indeed were he an Angell from Heauen is to be helde Anathematized The very Wheate-fielde it selfe Christes possession hath Tares not onely in it but also in Communion with the Wheat Yea in so strict communion with the Children of the Kingdome as such euil-ones cannot be excommunicate with the good of the Church and therefore permitted to grow till GOD weed them out The Tare is not euery euill for then euery euill should grow and the Churches censures were idle but they be such euil-ones as can be no more remooued with the Churches good then Tares from Wheate with which it first groweth vp hypocritically as Wheate but in time discloseth it selfe for a close winder about not an vpright grower Wantes are to be lamented and the good not fled from much lesse condemned for no Wheate because it standes in some communion with Tares Other Weedes that grow loose from the Wheate are timelily to be remooued and yet if the Husbandman sometimes neglect that dutie God forbid that we should therevppon conclude that all the Wheate is no more Wheate and so no visible Christian in the Lordes possession Nor do the Holy thinges of God cease to be Holy because they be sometimes conueyde to euil-ones so well as to them be good euen as the Raine is the same which God sendeth vpon the Wheate and Tare Hearbe and Weede but the Holy thinges prophaned become Iudgement to the prophaners and yet cease not to be Holy be it Word or Sacrament to the Reuerend receiuers O brother the Sacrifices were seasoned with Salt before they flamed on the Alter and so should our Soules be seasoned with Discretion before they flamed in our Churches Some haue Knowledge no Zeale a cold house must-there be kept and some haue much Zeale small Skill no maruaile if he set the house on fire No man sayth the Apostle striuing for a maisterie is crowned except he striue as he ought This is farre from beeing as it ought 1 To call our Mother the Church an Whore because she hath some wantes or in somewhat crosseth our humour 2 To spit in her face and to runne away from her so soone as we thinke we can shift for our selues 3 To goe and band our selues with other M●l-contents for murdring our Mother as hauing no life of God in her 4 Yea to proclaime all her Children Bastardes For if she were neuer a true Church neuer maried to Christ then could she neuer bring foorth a lawfull but a bastardly-seed And so all our holy Martyrs dying in and for the same Fayth should also with vs be Aliens from the life of Christ Iesus Fearefull actions blaspemous conclusions But better it can not be with such as withdraw vnto perdition O my soule haue no pleasure in them Flyer Sweete Mediocritie I now see the soundnes of al these conclusions which before Experience I but held as pleas for corruption God lay not that sinne to my charge and he for his Sonnes sake reduce other wandring soules to peaceable vnitie with our Church that so we may be as one flocke vnder that one great Archbishoppe of our soules Christ Iesus Amen Mediocri Amen Now we be come to the Citie and it is hy-time for him to eate that did not eate any thing to day I