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A60873 An answer to Roger Crabs printed paper to the Quakers, and likewise to his principles and doctrines, whose spirit is tryed and found in the dark which is to be directed again to Roger Crab and his followers, who cryed up his paper, that they may learn wisdom to preserve them in innocency, in the power of God, in which there is no confusion / by George Salter. Salter, George. 1659 (1659) Wing S463; ESTC R1785 8,562 9

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Thou saist all forms how speakes wisdome how is all one when thou speakest of Selfe and powers of darknesse and many beloveds and that Midwife Sel●e How is it all was good in the beginning and many since the fall and beginning are all one again in Christ the Image of God that that destroyes the devil and his works and selfe propriety which thou must come out of the hole of the earth and thy nest for such Christ calls Foxes and fowles such as be in him reignes over thy head in him againe out of the one which is out of the truth which makes many wayes many Sects many opinions out of the divine nature which makes one who are one in it are in wisdomes steps power and dominion and sees and feels thee in the Earth and cannot eat sower things without setting their teeth an edge The devil must serve the Lord and he must worship and come behind the truth and not before it and the devil the serpent that is out of the truth is a murtherer and out of the wisdome of God which is gentle and from above but as fallen out of the truth he is devilish devouring destroying but all things as t●ey were in the beginning they were very good standing in the truth and power of God and so the devil must be destroyed and his wisdome Now doth God destroy his own wisdome So thou art not in the wisdom that puts a difference but we are in that which puts a difference and remaines and so that he did not create the Devils work which is out of the truth which he doth destroy for by wisdome all things were created and by wisdome they stand out of this is the Enmity and the works set up in his wisdome which by this wisdome must be destroyed by this wisdome that is above and so the beloved one is turned into his beloved one from the bed that is defiled to the bed that is not defiled so mark each bed where each beloved lyes each marryage the honourable and the dishonourable the defiled and the undefiled and this wisdom doth see and so here the Beloved that appeares black and terrible to you all is known whose face is marred in whom there is no beauty nor forme nor comlinesse to the earthly to the Nations to the formal and literate Earthly ones nor to the Fowls nor to the Foxes that have holes who be in the defiled bed set up since the fall For from the Virgins state in whose mouth is no gail and his face is beloved which is beautyful to the pure eye but ma●red by such as thou art who art yet in the lust of the flesh and the pride of life which is of the World who lives within the City knowes the 12 gates above thy three which are distinct from thee wisdom hath seen thy invented gates the gates thou hast invented who saith The second is that that tries the heart and the first that that tries the Spirit the third is that which none can enter that feeds of the tree of good and evil Thou fool must not the heart be tryed before the spirit be tryed and the tree of knowledge tryed when their hearts be tryed and doth not that one tryal that tryes spirits tries hearts tries food is not that one and is not that the gate Hast not thou confounded thy principles that makes many doth not good enter Nor no name distinct from other doth not Christs name who was called the word of God enter into the City which thou saist neither good nor righteousnesse enters in and is not the good and righteous both and distinct from others that makes one So wisdome over all the wise men of the Earth doth foresee that wisedom that is to be confounded and thou art seen whose city is the wicked City into which no righteousnesse must enter who puts no difference and the black sheeps cloathing and pride which ●hou must be deceived of which signifies two in thy owne as I read I ●udge which is comprehended by the sheep who hath the wisdome of him by whom the world was made before twain was when all things were good And is this black sheeps cloathing invented by the Serpents wisedome and artificiall colours of God as thou sayest now dost thou destroy thy own wisdome here for wisdome doth not destroy true wisdome but the Serpents wisdom which is out of the truth and its works and doth the Serpents wisdome which thou saist is the wisdome of God bring people to set up stately buildings Idoles Images Gold and doth the wisdome of God deceive the wisdome of God and destroy those things what a Kingdom divided how now Roger what hast thou set up two powers again and so confounded thy own principles what but 〈◊〉 power yet envyings What Roger but one power yet furious and shattering to pieces it selfe till it come to nought then there 's no power at all Roger and what is your evil to him that doth think it and envy in the envyous one and but one power how comes this opposite how comes this thinkst Is not this all the wisdome of God as thou seest that is the wisdome of the Serpent and so if wisdom be divided against its selfe it cannot stand But wisdome it selfe which is the truth sees all this for envy and strife is that which are out of truth and turnes against the truth Alack poor brat how dost thou build and throw down who art dashing thy se se to pieces against the stones If one look upon thy flesh it is loathsome and would make one sick read this in secret Roger in patience who art a corrupt bulk of Fog ●ho art like a quagmire that sucks up them that comes upon thee that art not in the wisdome which doth force ●o shun thy mire and clay who walks in the wisdome of God misses thy paths and way where the streames of life flowes and under the vine s●ts where the showers comes And so thy beastly garments are not to be touched but such there may be in the Earth in the dark in thy own powe● out of truth that sees not to shun the way and for an casefull life gathers together to make up a hill a mountain which in the end turns to a Quagmire which they that comes into their feet doth stick fast which is made up of beastical lust earth and of powerish ayre And her 's Sodom which saith I am not Egypt but dwell in a plain out of whom just Lot the Angel calls whom to Abraham is revealed of destroying the just that is out of it called who sees it on fire over it reignes So who are of Faith are of Abraham of the flesh of Christ far above thy wisdom power flesh If thou appeares wrath confusion and darkenesse to them that be in darkness to that 〈◊〉 and yet thou saiest there is but one power then there is but one eye and what is the confusion in the
power and yet but one and darknesse in the power and it but one how now Roger how smells this Hast thou in this set up two powers and two eyes and yet thou sayst there is but one power now there is no confusion in the power of God which goes over the confusion the evil the darknesse and confounds it but the confusion is in the power of darknesse where people sees not one another who are from the light with which thou art comprehended and seen And dost thou appear an Adulterer to them that be in adultery and a theef to them that live in theft and yet thou 〈◊〉 ●●ere is but one power Roger what doth not one power appear against an other then theef against theef and Adulterer against adulterer terror against terror hast thou not set up a transgressor or transgressors here now if there be but one power how do they transgresse then Now there is but one power which remaine in which there is no theft no adultery no terror no iclo●ds for terror and theeves and adulterers are out of it for all that ●s in the darknesse And thou saist to him that lives in two powers thou appea●es in two powers here thou hast confounded thy own principles by thy own tongue thou sayst thou appeares in confusion to him that is in confusion and all ●ut of love to the pure seed that is in captivity how now Roger is there captivity and but one power and yet the pure seed in captivity what is that which captivates the pure seed and if there be but one power there is but one love and then there is no captivity yet thou saist there are many lovers who art out of the power of God in the darknesse and so in confusion there thou art but the pure eye in the power of God sees no confusion in it for God is not the author of confusion nor his power but confusion is in that which abides not in the power of God nor in the truth And we do not Imagine that thou art without the gate where all names and distinctions are and settings up and throwings down but know it And here thou hast set up an opposite to thy selfe who saies we Imagin so two powers thou hast set up and yet sayes there is but one and thou saist this is a full answer for all gainsaying hark is there gainsaying and yet but one power and is there a single eye that it appears too so by thy own words thou inferrs that there is a double eye with the one power of God and the single eye art thou and thy power comprehended that is out of the truth who saith the wisdome of the Serpent is the wisdome of God is it in the wisdom of God which is earthly sensual and divelish for that is out of the truth is not God the God of all truth whose wisdom is distinct from the Serpents these things consider Again Roger Crab thou grants that as a body of flesh thou art guilty of the whole Law yet thou justifies thy selfe in that state of guilt and here then justifies the wicked which is abomination to the Lord. Again thou saist that no body of flesh on earth can accuse thee for any transgression no more then thou canst accuse thy selfe Ans What need any accuse thee more then to be in the transgression and guilt of the whole Law as thou accuseth thy selfe which he that is so cannot enter into Gods Kingdome Roger thy wisdome hath perverted thee and thy own confusions may make thee ashamed and keep silence putting thy mouth in the dust if so be that for thee there may be hope Thy power and thy spirit cannot Correct it is corrected with the power of the Spirit of them who are called by thee and the world Quakers who are not found in the Spirit of the world whom the world is not worthy of for had they been worthy of them their Gaols houses of correction and Dungeons had not been their place for them but that is the provision of a backslider and their houses that they do prepare for the Lambs of Christ And thy spirit is tryed and thy shape and seed is seen which is the seed of confusion the Adulterer and the who●e which made up the sorcerers but it is gone over with the power of the Lord thy cloud is seen in which is no rain thy well is seen in which is no water and it hath been tryed to the bottom what a friend who art to the Quakers who are come through that that can be shaken and into that which cannot be shaken by which thou art tryed and all upon the earth by such as hath the salt in themselves That are the light of the world are as a City that cannot be hid for had they not had the salt in themselves they had been trode under mens feet before now so thou art such a friend of the Quakers that hid his talent whose hand and ●●ot must be bound who art with thy challengings in the chief Priests nature as Judas did with that friend with multitudes and slaves and s●ords that would betray and ensnare the just and get them into the earthly liberty where there is not its rest nor Sabbath but in God the Creator of all things and truth fears thee not to look thee in the face for to it must thee all unclean bow in which we stand reign which i● the condemnation of all the unjust which is the answerer of all the just which is the releaser of all the captives and prisoners by the unjust which power must have an end but this power hath no end which is unity and brings into oneness which remains and with the light the Power of God th● body that thou hast prepared out of which comes all the strife and carnal weapons which body is not the flesh of Christ but it must be put off before that appears which remain and thou yet with thy body which hast set forth and prepared out of which comes all the contention in the world aggrava●ion and strife and it is but the body of flesh upon which the law was given by thy own confession in that number thou art a son of old Adam not of Christ who was made under the Law and the bolts and ●all and locks are seen and felt and arts which preserves the Adulterer and prisons the innocent who would ravish and destroy the Virgins and mar their beauty and defile their Marriage bed which is honourable the eyes of all that look up to Christ and beholds their help cannot turn into thee though thou lie in every corner of the street though it be in time o● night though it be in the time that simple ones are travelling though it be in the time that thou may say the good man is gone from home and gone a long journey and taken a Bag of money come in thou hast Loves and all that be with us we have one purse and we be brethren But truth and life and power sees in what for that is attained to which the tempter hath nought in though he may find in the first Adam a transgressor and Evah his wife but in the seed he finds none but the Serpent that bruises his head and in that is the Quakers life and in that body they are in which is peace above thy body in which is contention and strife where men are surfetted with their aggravating spirits who ●eels who sees over the body that burthens the just in the particular in which I am one and do it visit though a plague a Hammer a sword to thee who stands in love to all mankind in the Creation and knowes the peace of that Kingdom in which is no end thy jealousie burning and thy flame is quenched with the power of the Lord and the hear of another love thy motive is seen from what ground it comes from thee and the dark Priests from that body out of which comes all uncleanness in the world envyes fightings Quarrellings evil ●maginations false accus●●ions The Lyon is raised up that will rend and tear the beast the nature and the beast himself the Quakers power and spirit it seems you feel that doth torment you J.E. and Roger Crab And as for the Ballat and the Ballad of J.B. you are not with them able to get a top of the Quakers hill to sell your Ballats there for the Kings throne is set in which there comes no dirt nor no enchanter and thou must not think to come before the Throne with thy crooked body and thine is the Kingdom that must come down with the Devils who creeps like vipers upon the earth and there lives in your nasty holes who charms against them that amongst you makes not their dens But the power and Throne hath compasled your home that against the Lamb you cannot push for that which you at them do throw is but your dust who with it cannot dazel the eye of the ryders on that tramples and treads whose rest is in the corner stone who slings with a sling and hits the uncircumcised in the head and his feet upon him stands who is come to the flesh of Christ which is not meat for the Dog swine and viper and wolves and fowls who this flesh out of their mouth throwes and cannot swallow down and the blood of Christ they cannot drink but lies in their sins and corruptions till they stink for from that filthy thing doth it make clean and they that drink must have the pure mouth and they that eat● the flesh hath his life in which we reign and remains and in which we have our being let us see if thou can sing this song G.S. 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