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A96893 Inquiries into the causes of our miseries, whence they issue-forth upon us: and reasons wherefore they have born us down so low; and are like to carrie us yet lower. The Independents and the way of worship, they stand-up for, is renderd clear of this grievous charge... This charge is drawn-up against the Independents, by three worthies, men, I think, of name, all (I) D.P.P.W. Pryn Esquire; but more fully and with more devouring words, if more can be, by Dr. A. Steuart in his last book... In six sections. Whereof the first onely is here; a just vindication of the way of worship very commonly misunderstood; very falsly interpreted; but very truly called Independent... By Hez. Woodward.; Inquiries, into the causes of our miseries. Part 1. Woodward, Ezekias, 1590-1675. 1644 (1644) Wing W3491; Thomason E22_1; ESTC R21697 22,269 25

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Here now if my advice were worth acceptance it should be this to the Masters of the Assemblies That they would be as daintie in their choice of Members as Paul would have Timothy to be in laying on his hand which we call ordination Let it appear that the Word and Spirit gathers members into a Church fellowship and not the call of men Which will appear if enquiry be made first whether they have counted their cost That is a great inquiry And whether their fellowship is with the Father and the Son and are resolved to maintain the same fellowship in that Church-Communion they are now entring upon taking cure and charge one over another as before said such as is comely for a communion of Saints If they can in sincerity and truth of heart make clear answers thereunto that they have no low Aymes nor base ends moving them to come-over to the vvay but onely the glory of God and their more comfortable vvalking still searching the Scripture and vvalking humbly vvith their God Surely if so there will be be no fear of falling-off but fully assured vve may be they vvill vvalk-on strait forward and hold-on to the end They are the light inconsiderate unsavourie unballased Christians such as never count their cost that are the sickle men vvho vvould seeme to be some bodies vvhen indeed they are Nothings and yet vvould be accounted Independent men taken off from themselves and the vvorld and from every bottome there founded and rooted in Christ vvholly Dependent upon Him the Rock of Ages And yet vvalk as vvithout God in the present World as they have the men of the World for an example quite loose from God and good-men Oh! this is Abominable and vvill be bitternesse at the last To shut-up this They that are received into Church Communion should be men fearing God and hating covetousnesse who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit Men that can hear and read and sing and pray and all in the Spirit Men that walk with God filled with the Holy Ghost And these will serve to make Church officers too It vvill be said again A. But vvhy do I make so large exceptions against the Doctors book I vvas not provoked B. Not provoked Indeed I vvas and so I think is every good man To see such a I cannot tell what to call it Charge is too soft a vvord drawn-up against the Brethren upon the front of his book and in the face of the World Surely if I had seen such an Indictment against the Presbyterians I should have said as much against it and as heartily And I perswade my self they do vvish That the Doctors book and such like had never seen the Sun or coming abroad had been dealt with as their Authors would have their brethren done unto thrown into the fire to be purged there And truly if my book be so accounted of by any sober Christian as a troubler of the Churches peace let it go with its fellows such troublers and let me be thrust-out after it But the Dr. Himself does not account me a troubler a flatterer he saies I am I must reply to this first If I would flatter and had skill that way as truly I have none but if I had I would not flatter the Brethren we call Independents men set forth the last as aforesaid I would not flatter them In the eye of the world I say of the world I am better than they and better accounted of then they But yet we will hear how the Dr. chargeth all those that speak for the Independents or the way of Government thus he saies or to this purpose That the men who treat on their side do bespeak them and the people with high strains of Rhetorique and large laudatives concerning them And for his part he has been a little too free that way and he craves pardon Let him have it for his tongue in print may assure us and all the world that if he hath given his Brethren their dues which he owoth to every man sweet and fair language he will retract now and do so no more But to quit my self of that my soul abhors base flatteries giving that to men which I know they deserve not This I will say and not crave pardon for my expression The Lord God of gods the Lord God of gods He knows That my heart and soul has gone-out with my words all along I have not strained my conscience in any word I have spoken touching our Brethren and their way It is a beautifull way in my eye and they have walked with a right-foot in that way sor ought I can discern or can ken to the contrary One or more of that side or way may have spoken improperly enough as the Dr. argueth their words he heard from them in the pulpit Very likely all that Alas Men may walk as men And it is far from me to commend mans way It is Gods way I contend for man may speak also it is not proper to say he may but he does not alwayes as the oracle of God He is a perfect man saith S. James and I beleeve He knew none such in the world that trips not in his tongue and foot also who was not an offender in a word yes and in deed too The Nations are but as a drop of the bucket and the Isles as the small dust of the ballance in comparison with the great God How small and light a thinst then is hee we call man Surely surely when we way him we must give him his full allowance for he is many graines too light And yet I must not call him R●c● a foole a Mat. 5. 22. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Vacuus in mis. light and empty fellow If I call my brother so I am in danger of a Councel the Synod may talke with me for it and it is fit they should I abominate jeering or scoffing or any lightnes at all If any for the Independent way are faulty therein they are cleane out of the way of God and good men and far from the end they seeme to propose the perswading with and reducing their brother into the way of holinesse And hee who is bitter is far-out too And now I feele my selfe plucked by the eare I have heard it argued against me more than once That I blame Mr. Ed bitter language when mine is more bitter Is it so let me be blamed for that and I aske him pardon too But I protest now before the Lord and his people That though I have beene accused yet I was never shown the words which might argue this bitternesse charged upon my Spirit If such they are in any corner of my booke which can bear such a construction they slipt from me before I was aware yet I will own them if there they be as my own the fruit of my own Spirit and reprove my selfe and