them but onely an emanation or stream of it the Center and Spring it self was for most part in heaven untill it descended and cloathed it self with the likeness of our 〈◊〉 flesh in the Virgins womb 13. And â—herefore let all the Scripturs be searched and it shall not be found that Christ became Man and tooke to himself the Soul of Man at his conception in the womb of the Virgin Mary but onely that he took flesh and was the Son of Mary David and Abraham according to the flesh but according to his Heavenly Nature even as man he was the Son of God and was the Father and Lord of all the Faithfull in all Ages therefore David in spirit called him LORD whose Name is Wonderfull Counseller the Mighty God the Everlasting Father aud Prince of Peace SECTION IX 1. That Christ is in every man yea in every Creature in a true sense proved from Scripture 2. That it derogats no more from the honour of Christ then from the honour of God the Father that he is in all things 3. Christ in the saints proved from Scripture 4. Yea in all men even the wicked proved from Scripture 5. The God-head properly doth not suffer in men but the soule or life of Iesus Christ the heavenly man 6. More Scripture to prove that Christ suffers in the wicked as Heb. 6. 6. Rev. 11. 8. 7. Paul preached Christ in the Corinthians and Galatians when unbelievers proved from 1 Cor. 2. 2. Gal. 1. 3. Eph. 3. 8. 1. Tim. 3. 16. 8. If Christ be in the Saints he must be in all men proved from a most convincing reason that otherwayes he would be divided from himself and in discontinued places 9. Christ is otherwayes in all men then in the other inferior creaturs in regard of his operations 10. And otherwise in the Saints then in other men not only in regard of operation but also in regard of union and communion 11. How Christ is and yet is not in unbelievers in different respects cleared by two manifest examples 12. Christ is otherwise in the outward body and temple that suffered at Jerusalem then in the Saints 13. The Saints union with God is but mediat through the heavenly man Christ whereas the union of Christ with God is immediat 14. The Saints not Christ but Christians and receive all things from God by the Heavenly Man Christ Iesus 15. How Christ hath given eternall life to all flesh or all mankind according to John 17. 2. which place of Scripture is falsly translated in our English Bible THe fifth Particular whereof he accuseth us is that we affirme Christ to be a common sort of thing to be found in every man as it was in the Son of Mary even the common Light to be found in the mind of every man in the world 1. Answer That Christ is in every man yea in every creature we do boldly affirme conforme to the Scripture which saith all things were created by him even Iesus Christ the incarmate Word or Word made flesh and therefor he is in all things and as Iohn said he was in the world and the world was made by him for indeed it is impossible that the maker can be separated from the thing that is made I say according to the Scripture that seeing all creaturs were made by Iesus Christ therefore he is in them all even as God is in all giving them and upholding them their beings and ministring unto every thing what is needfull and fit for it 2. Doth it any more derogat from the honour and glory of Christ that he is in all then it derogats from the honour and glory of God the Father who is in all and through all blessed in himself for ever more For as God is a pure being and life that nothing can defile even so is Christ Jesus an incorruptible and incontaminable life and being as God is Light so Christ is Light a Light that shineth every where even in the darkness as Iohn declared but the darkness cannot comprehend it nor can the darkness obscure and darken it onely it can and doth obscure and darken the eyes of them who are in darkness that they cannot see nor behold the glory of the Light But more particularly to come to the matter in hand I shall first prove from Scripture that Christ is in the Saints and secondly both from Scripture and good reason that is grounded on Scripture that he is in all men in a true sense yea in all creatures And thirdly I shall shew that in regard of his operations he is otherwise in men then in the other creaturs of an inferior degree And fourthly that he is otherwise in the Saints then in other men and that not onely in regard of operation but also in regard of union and communion And fiftly that he is otherwise in the vessell or temple that suffered on the Crosse at Ierusalem and is now glorifyed in heaven then he is in any or in all of the Saints or in any other creaturs whatsoever howsoever excellent 3. As to the first that Christ is in the Saints see Ioh. 6 56. he that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood dwelleth in me and I in him see also Iohn 17. 23. I in them and thou in me c. see again Rom. 8. 10. And if Christ be in you the body is dead Eph. 3. 17. That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith Collos. 1. 27. Christ in you the hope of glory 2 Cor. 13. 3. Seing that ye seek a proofe of Christ speaking in me and verse 5. know ye not your own sâ—lvâ—s how that Iesus Christ is in you unless ye be reprobates Many more Scriptures may be brought but these shall suffice to shew that Christ is in the Saints and Christ is Gods anointed King Priest and Prophet and therefor by Christ is not to be understood the Word simply considered as in God but the incarnate or ingrafted Word or the Word made flesh that dwelleth in the Saints Ioh. 1. 14. for the Word simply considered as in God is not the anointed but the annointer whereas Christ is Gods anointed 4. Secondly that Christ is in all men even in the wicked see Amos 2. 13. Behold I am pressed under you as a Cart is pressed that is full of sheaves This cannot be understood of God or the Word simply considered that cannot be pressed or suffer any grief but it is well understood of the incarnat or ingraftâ—d Word to wit the precious Seed of the life of Christ in us that is exceeding tender and is capable of grief and suffering by mens sins Psal. 95. 10. Fourty years long was I grieved in this generation Isajah 63. 9 10. In all their affliction he was affâ—icted and the Angel of his presence saved them in his love and in his pity he redeemed them and he bare them and caryed them all the days of old but they rebelled and vexed his holy Spirit c. 5.
he bid his Disciples believe in him Ye believe in God believe also in me said he that is in me the Man Christ Jesus whom God hath sent 3. And seing we are to believe in him we are also to call upon him for that which is the proper object of true Faith is also the proper object of true Divine adoration as accordingly we find that they who had true faith in him in the days of his flesh did also worship him and pray unto him as the Wise men that came from the East did worship him even when he was an Infant Matth. 2 11. And when they were come into the house they saw the young Child with Mary his mother and fell down and worshipped him And here observe it is not said they worshipped Mary his mother no they were more wise although they did know that she was blessed above all Women yet they did also know that she was not an object of Divine worship as Christ was Surely these men although commonly accounted Heathens had more sound understanding then all the wise men so called of the Popish Church who worship Mary the mother of Jesus and pray unto her as they do also unto other Saints which is gross idolatry Again see Matth. 8 2. And behold there came a Leper and worshiped him saying Lord if thou wilt thou canst make me clean and this was the Man Jesus 4. And many such examples are to be found in Scripture of those that worshipped him in the days of his flesh see Matth. 9 18. and 14 33. and 15 25. And after his Resurrection the Disciples both Men and Women did worship him see Matth. 28. 9. 17. as no doubt they did so before and after his Ascension the Disciples did call upon him see Act. 7 59. And they stoned Stephen calling and saying Lord Iesus receive my Spirit and Act. 9 21. the Disciples are said to be they that call on this Name to wit IESVS and Paul saluteth the Corinthians thus 1 Cor. 1 3. Grace be unto you and peace from God our Father and from our Lord Iesus Christ and ver 2. unto the Church of God which is at Corinth to them that are sanctified in Christ Iesus called Saints with all that in every place call upon the Name of Iesus Christ our Lord both theirs and â—urs And it is the will and command of the Father that at the Name of Iesus every knee should â—ow and every tongue confess to the glory of God the Father So that whatever honour or worship is given to the Man Christ Jesus it redounds to the Father He that honours the Son honours the Father and he that honours not the Son honours not the Father And Rev. 5 11 12 13 14. All the Saints and Angels and every creature are brought in not onely worshipping the Father but the Lamb that was slain and this is the Man Christ Iesus or Word incarnate for the Word or Logos simply considered never was nor can be slain All which Scripturs and many more that could be mentioned prove clearly that the Saints did worship the Man Christ Jesus and did pray unto him And they who believe not this doctrin are more blind then the poor blind man Bartimeus who when Iesus of Nazareth passed by saw him with the eyes of his Soul to be the Christ of God and prayed unto him saying Iesus thou Son of David have mercy upon me Mark 10 46 47. Also the Canaanitish woman that was not a Jew but in the Jewes account an Heathen she believed in him with a great and marvelous faith and also prayed unto him and when he seemed to have refused her yet she continued in prayer saying Lord help me 5. I have been the more full and express in this Particular for three weighty reasons First Becaus I know that divers Presbyteriaâ— Teachers in this Nation have openly professed and some have taught it in the Pulpit that Christ as Mediator or the Man Christ is not to be worshipped or prayed unto which occasioned a great contention in their Synods and Presbyterys in some places of late years to the great dishonour of the Christian Religion and of that Worthy Name whereby we are called 6. Secondly Becaus that some have ignorantly accused us that we did not pray to the Man Iesus nor call upon the Father in the Name of Iesus Christ which is a gross calumny 7. For many times have I both heard others and also I my self have called upon that Blessed Name expressly naming the words IESVS CHRIST although when we express not these words yet if we pray by the moving of his Life and Spirit we pray in the Name of Jesus and also to Jesus the Heavenly Man that is glorified with that glory he had with the Father before the world was 8. Yea I have heard expressly such petitions put up in our Prayers at our Meetings unto Christ as Jesus Son of David have mercy upon us O thou Blessed Lord Iesus that wert crucified and dyed for our sins and shed thy precious blood for us be gracious unto us Thou that in the days of thy flesh wert tempted of Satan afflicted bore our sins on the cross felt our infirmitys and wert touched with them O thou our Mercifull High Prâ—est whose tender bowels of compassion are not more straitened since thy Ascension but rather more enlarged and whose love and kindness is the same towards thy Servants in our days as it was of old help us and strengthen us and by the power of thy Divine Life and Spirit raise us up over all tentations and indue us with a measure of the same patience and resignation that dwelâ— so fully in thee and which thou didst so abundantly manifest in all thy sufferings in the days of thy flesh Thou art the same that thou wert thy heart is the same towards thy Servants as when thou wert outwardly present with them in the flesh Thou art our Advocat and Mediator in Heaven with the Father our Mercifull High Priest who is not untouched with the feeling of our infirmitys Thou even Thou Blessed Iesus thou knowest our most secret desires and breathings which we offer up unto thee in the enablings of thy blessed Life and Spirit that thou mayest present them unto thy Father and our Father that in thee we may be accepted and our services also and for thy sake our defects and short comings our sins and transgressions that we have committed may be forgiven us These and such like expressions frequently used by us in prayer both in secret and also in publick in our Assemblys plainly demonstrate that we worship and pray unto the Mediator betwixt God and Man the Man Christ Jesus the anoynted King Priest and Prophet of his People who also is God over all bessed forever For he is that Mighty One upon whom the Father hath laid help so that although the Father himself loveth us and is most willing and ready to help us in all
my heart doth not only not bear witness for but against and indeed the Scripture also doth beare witnesse against them Of this sort I shall cite a few of many 1 part Ep. 12. The Bible beguiled the Pharisees Surely this is a very unsound and unwary expression and I dare say had such an expression dropt from the penn of any called a Quaâ—er it would have been called blasphemy The Pharisees beguiled themselves in wreâ—ting and misunderstanding the Scriptures as the Priests do in our days but the Bible or Scripture is altogether innocent of this Again 1 part Ep. 88 I am sure Christ hath by his death and blood â—asten the knot so fast that the fingers of Devils and hell-fulls of sins can not loose it This is expressly contrary to the Scripturs testimony that saith your iniquitys have separated betwixt me and you Surely such sin-pleasing doctrine although it be sweet in the mouths of Professors yet it is most unwholesom for their Souls as sweet poyson why did the Lord threaten the Romans the Ephesians the Laodiceans to cutt them off remove their candleâ—ick and spue them out of his mouth for their sins if this mans doctrine be true that hell-fulls of sins â—an not loose the knot Is not this to embolden people in all manner of sin to tell them that hellfulls of sins can not separate them from Christ If he had said Those that are come to witnesse the indissolvible bond or knot betwixt Christ and them are preserved pure and free from all great and grosse â—ins at least he had said more according to the truth and the Scripturs testimony which saith he that abideth in Christ sinneth not And if the righteous man turn from righteousnesse it shall be forgotten Again 1 part Ep. 181. We have need of a Saviour to pardon the very diseases and faulâ—s and weaknesses of the New man and to take away to say so out godly sins or the sins of our sanctification the drossâ— and scumme of spirituall love This is very unâ—ound to charge sin and filthynesse upon the work of the Spirit of God in the hearts of his people whereas the Scripture saith his work is perfect And indeed how can any impure thing proceed from the Spirit of God that is altogether a most pure and holy Spirit Again 2 part Ep. 7. He who is woer and suiter should not be an house-hold-man with you till ye and he come up to his Fathers house together This is contrary to the Scripture which saith I will dwell in them and walk in them And if any man will keep my commandments my Father and I will come and make our abode with him Hence the Saints on Earth are called Gods Temple and house Again 2 part Ep. 48. The fruits that grow here are all seasoned and salted with sin A grosse unsavoury expression are the fruits of the Spirit aslove ioy peace gentlenesse goodnesse faith long-suffering meeknesse temperance c. all salted and seasoned with sin How then could the Lord relish and accept them Again 3 part Ep. 9. Howbâ—it we be but half-hungered of Christ here This is contrary to the promises of the Lord and experience of the Saints Did not David say My cup overfloweth And is it not said in the Song Eat O friends drink abundantly O beloved And is it not promised in the New Convenant they shall not hunger and thirst c. And said Paul that ye may be filled with the fulnesse of God And of Barnabas it is said he was a good man and full of the holy Ghost It 's true all that is received in this life is but as a first-fruits and earnest of that to come yet there is a very blessed and large enjoyment of Christ to be attained here so that the faithfull can say they want no good thing and although they hunger yet it is not for famine or want but to sharpen their appetite Yea in contradiction to himself he â—aith 1 part Ep. 128. Pray for me his prisoner that he would be pleased to bring me among you again full of Christ c. And 1 part Ep. 140. O thirsty love wilt thou set Christ the well of Life to thy head and drink thy fill drink and spare not drink love and be drunken with Christ. But doth this agree with his former expression of being half-hungered of Christ here in this life Again 1 part Ep. 62. he saith Reprobats are not formally guilty of contempt of God and misbelief becaus they apply not Christ and the promises of the Gospell to themselvs in particular for so they should be guilty becaus they believe not a lye which God never oblieged them to believe But this is to make God guilty of hypocrisy that reproveth the world of unbelief and offereth faith and Salvation unto all nor doth God obliege them to believe a lye becaus Christ hath given himself a ransome for all and dyed for all as the Scriptures expressly declare Again see 1 part Ep. 3. Except a man marâ—yr and slay the body of sin in sanctifyed self-denyall they shall never be Christs martyrs and faithfull witnesses And yet in contradiction he saith within 20 lines in the same Epistle Howbeit we can not attain to this denyall of me and mine that we can say I am not my self my self is not my self mine own is no longer mine own yet our aiming at this in all we doe shall be accepted This is another sin-pleasing doctrine plaine contrary to the Scripture which faith unlesse a man deny himself c. it doth not say if he aime at it he shall be accepted Surely this is to â—ue pillows under mens arme-holes and to embolden them in sin for who will not say they aime at self-deniall although they attaine not unto it Again see 1 part Ep. 14. Some are partakers of the holy Ghost and tast of the good Word of God and of the powers of the life to come and yeâ— have no part in Christ at all citâ—ing Heb. 6 4. But this is a grosse contradiction seing none are partakers of the holy Ghost but by Christ. But these mentioned Heb. 6 4. are such as having a part in Christ may fall from him Again see 1 part Ep. 50. The best regenerate have their defilements and if I may speak so their draff-pack that will clogg behind them all their days and wash as they will there will be filâ—h in their bosome A most unfavoury and unsound expression contrary to the promises of God and the experience of many that witnessed a cleansing from all filthinesse and sin Again 1 part Ep. 27. All Christs good bairns goe to heaven with a broken brow and with a crooked legge Contrary to Scripture which faith Thou shalt walk in the way safely and thy feet shall not stumble Prov. â— 23. And Christ is a perfect Physician who as he cured the lame bodys of those that believed in him perfectly so doth he cure the lame â—ouls of all his
Postscript for which he may blame himself for the Truth of God will not want witnesses yet I hope these that are not byassed with prejudice and malice against us will find he hath said nothing but the Truth and vindicated our Principles by solide arguments from Scripture and from the unjust aspersions tâ—at the Author of the Postscript would fix upon us As for those that are prepossess'd with prejudice what their tohughts will be I shall leave them to the Lord for as one saith Periit judicium ubires transiit in affectum where the affection is forestalled the judgment will never be just but I wish all may be so charitable to their own Souls as to make an impartial and diligent search after Truth and not relie upon the testimony of man especially of that kind of men that any have in most of their controversys against us been found such gross and palpable slaunderers and calumniators that it may seeme strange that ever such impostors should be any more hearkened unto when they have been so often discovered in their bold and impudent lyes even to the conviction of many that are ready to receive all that comes from them as Truth But the cause is the Lords and in his good time he will vindicat his people and his own Truth no less now then in former ages Blessed are they that are not offendded in Christ who has been a stone of stumbling and rock of offence to the wise professing Iewes and foolishness to the ignorant vain Gentiles However this may be constructed it is my real desire to the Lord that all testimonys that come from any of us whether by word or writ may tend to nothing but the true conviction and conversion of the opposers and edification of all the upright in heart that love the prosperity of the kingdom of Jesus Christ on earth this is the sincere desire of him who is A real Friend and wel-wisher to the souls of all men ALEXANDER SKEIN From the Tolbooth of Aberdeen where I am prisoner for the true liberty of all Christians the 20 of the 12 moneth called February 1676 77. SECTION 1. 1. Separation from the Nationall Presbyterian Church no provoking sin why God should give them up who did so separat to the delusions of Sathan 2. But a further step of reformation 3. The inconsistency of this Presbyterians high commendations of S. R. and of his Epistles with the Presbyterians doctrin that Immediat Revelation is ceased since the Apostles dayes 4. Other Bookâ— more wortâ—y of Commendation 5. That Immediat Revelation is not ceased 6. A deceitfull distinction of some Presbyterian Teachers refuted IN my answer to this Postscript I shall not repeat all his words for that is needless the book being current in the hands of Professors but onely mark the most remarkable and he that will may be at the paines to read the passages at more length in the book it self Pag. 1. lin 7. Thou art desired to take notice tâ— what dreadfull and strong delusions such who were ring-leaders in this separation c. Answer He meaneth some persons at Aberdeen who some years agoe did separat from the Nationall Church in the time of the Presbyteriall government so called onely as to the use of these externall signes of bread and wine being so burdened in their Consciences even in that dy to partak with such and eat with them at that they judged to be the Table of the Lord many of whom were openly known to be scandalous and these passed under the name of Independents or of the Congregationall way Now this so small a separation this nameless Author doth â—o aggravat as if it were the main and greatest provocation why the Lord as he judgeth did give them up to the â—trong delusions of Quakerism But why may we nor much rather conclude that the Lord regarding their sincerity and tenderness of Conscience in making that separation such as it was did reward them with a further discovery and sight of some precious truths formerly hid from them which though this Author calls strong delusions we know are no delusions at all but most usefull comfortable Truths But if falling into Quakerism be such a proper and peculiar punishment for them who separated from Presbytery so called how is it that so few of that separation I mean of them called Independents have joyned with the way of Quakerism in England but have been so great persecuters of it that in new England the Independents being gone from their first tenderness and sincerity did put four persons called Quakers to death for no other cause but that they were of that profession and returned to that place after they had banished them for worshiping God as theâ— were perswaded in their consciences a crime more barbarous and cruell then I have heard of committed by any called Proteâ—tants upwards of some scores of years also how cometh it that so many in this Nation are become Quakers so called who were Presbyteriants and immediatly out of the Presbyterian way came to be Quakers and some who were once of the Episcopall way left it and became Presbyterians and afterward Quakers and some from the Episcopall way have immediatly become Quakers but is this a just ground for them of the Episcopall way to conclude that their â—eparation from Episcopacy to Presbytery was such a hainous sin that it provoked the Lord at last to give them up to the strong delusions of the Quakers I am sure the Episcopall men have as good reason to make such a conclusion against the Presbyterians on this bare account of separation yea and the Papists against Protestants for some who are now Quakers were once Papists and afterwards became presbyterians befor they became Quakers Have the Papists therfor just ground to conclude that the separation of those persons from Popery to Presbytery was the sin that provoked God to give them up to the strong delusions of Quakerism I know theâ— will be as ready to make such a conclusion as the Presbyterians can be but indeed who will view the matter with a spirituall eye will see the wonderfull goodness of God in his leading on the soules of them who most love him out of Babylon by those various steps of separation one degree after another till he hath brought them to Zion 2. These are they who follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth and some of these whom he calleth the ring-leaders of this separation after they had walked faithfully and religiously in that way called in derision Quakerism wich is nothing elce but pure Christianity restored again unto the world by the mighty operation of the power and Spirit of God after so long and so dark a night of Apostasy have finished their course in that way and are now at rest with the Lord in the heavenly mansions who both at their death and many times before gave powerfull and living testimonyes of Gods accepting them and giving them more manyfest
guids and for such there is no remedy untill it please the Lord to open their eyes which is my earnest desire SECTION VI. 1. The Scripturs no warrant for peopls refusing converse with the People called Quakers 2. They bring no doctrin contrary to the Scripturs 3. The Author and his Brethren guilty of horrid injustice against them in condemning them whom they neither know nor their principls 4. Many of them with a blind and mad zeal refuse all means of Information 5. The Presbyterian Teachers in labouring to perswad people not to converse with us nor read our books practise that usuall policy of the Popish Church that forbids to read Protestants books or converse with them 6. Many are the more moved to read them and seek occasion of their converse 7. Finding them grossly and falsly accused 8. John Livingston his unchristian carriage to some of their profession at Rotterdam 9. The people called Quakers not Hereâ—icks nor their principls heretical but truely Câ—â—â—sstian and Apostolick 10. Presbyterians in great confusion and contradiction in comparing some of themselvs to the greatest Prophets and yet denying Immediat Revelation and Spirit of Prophecy 11. A cowardly Spirit in many of the Presbyterian Teachers A question put to the Author of the Postscript Pag 5. ad sinem And here by the way let me set before thee the practice of that Great man of GOD Master John Livingston of whom without vanity or being judged to hold mens pâ—nsons in admiraâ—ion for advantage I fear not to say that in the day he was taken up from us I knew not so great an Ambassadour for Christ left behind upon the Earth O to see some on whom this Elijah's mantle is faln as a fit pattâ—rn for thy inâ—itation c. 1. Answer The Author of the Postscript hath been giving some perswasions why People should deny all converse with the People called Quakers from the exampls of the Apostles Paul and Iohn and lastly from the example of Master Iohn Livingston as he calls him behold the Presbyterians pride that will honour one another with the title of Master whereas when they speake of the Apostles they give them no such titles but bare Iohn Paul Peter But to say Iohn Livingston and Samuel Rutherford withholding the proud title of Master which Christ did expressly forbid doth greatly offend Presbyterian ears But first I must tell the Author of the Postscript As to the exampls of Paul and John the case doth no ways meet for the people called Quakers are of the same spirit and hold the same principls and have the same life and conversation which the Christians had whom Paul and John loved and were kindly affected unto even as parents unto children They are neither like seducing Elymas a title more aggreable to this Author nor like Hymeneus and Alexander whom Paul delivered unto Satan nor have they the least affinity with such as John forbad the Disciples to receive into their house or give them a friendly salutation for such were they who brought another doctrin unto them then John preached See 2 Ep Ioh ver 10. 2. Whereas the Quakers bring no other Doctrin but the very same doctrin of Christ which Christ himself and both John and all the Apostles preached And this upon trial we are assured by the Grace of God that we can make good against this Author and all his Brethren as likewise that we can prove that he and his Brethren are the men that bring a contrary doctrin For whereas Christ preached himself to be the Light of the world and John preached him to be that true Light that lighteneth every man that cometh into the world that all through him might believe And the Apostle Iohn said This is the message that we have heard of him that God is Light and in him is no darkness at allâ— Iâ— we walk in the Light as he is in the Light we haâ— fellowship one with another c. The Presbyterian Teachers can not endure to hear the same doctrin preached by the Quakers and they are ready to gâ—ash with their very teeth at us when we preach GOD to be the LIGHT and CHRIST to be that TRUE LIGHT that inlighteneth EVERY Man that cometh into the World And both Christ and the Apostles preached God and Christ in men as wel as Christ his coming in the flesh or God made manifest in flesh in that prepared body which was crucified at Ierusalem and afterwards raised up again and glorified And this same doctrin the Quakers preach whereas the Presbyterians are noâ— for Christ his being in a true and real sense no not in the very Saints 3. Surely this Author and his brethren have committed an horrid injustice against the people called Quakers in condemning them whom neither he nor his brethren do know nor what principls they hold whereas they believe lyeing reports that malicious men have invented against that people and there is a mind in them that is too ready to give ear to such lyes and foment yea augment them 4. And yet I have really such charity to this man and many of his brethren that it is through ignorance that they thus condemn us and speake evil of us and therefor is their sin the more pardonable were it not that with a blind and mad zeall they refuse all means of information whereby to be instructed either what we are or what principles we hold otherwise it were impossible they could be so ignorant concerning us as really they are for thousands in this land know that we are not guilty of these horrid things which this man layeth to our charge 5. And certainly this is a great sin in them and near bordering with that sin that shall never be forgiven that they refuse to be informed of us and are willingly ignorant themselvs and seek by all means to keep people in ignorance concerning us that they may not converse with us nor read our books an usuall policy of the Popish Anti-Christian Church who cry out against all diâ—â—enters from them as damnable Hereticks not to be conversed with nor their books to be read upon pain of the Popes curse and surely those groundless threaâ—â— of these Presbyterian priests have as small weight with ingenuons people and their curses or excommunications we value as little as the Popes being both from one Spirit and we know the more theâ— curse the Lord will the more bless us as we are faithfull in our Testimony to him 6. And it is observable that the more these meâ— disswad people from reading our books and conversing with us many have been the more moved to read them and seek occasion of our converse who upon an impartial search have found that we have been most grossly abused and belyed by these men 7. Which hath raised in them a love to us and an indignation against those mens deceit who did so injuriously and basely traduce us and thus also by degrees their understandings have been opened
iron the fire in the 〈◊〉 answering to the God-head or eternall Word anâ— the iron it self burning and shining by the vertue anâ— power of the fire in it answering to the Man-hood 〈◊〉 Christ both which examples I judge to be useful and pertinent yet falling exceeding short of thâ— Mystery it self which is so great that is passeth◠〈◊〉 understanding of men and Angels The second particular is that we deny Christ 〈◊〉 be the second person of the Trinity 6. This is a meer quible about the invented words of mans wisdom which we deny albeit the truth of the thing it self we deny not but faithfully believe to wit that Christ as God is the second of the Three that bear record in heaven which three are the Father the Word and the Spirit and these three are One as Iohn declared and we believe that these three that bear record in heaven are not three distinct natures and substances but the one in nature and substance not three Gods but One onely God not having three understadings three wills or three powers but one only understanding one only will and one only power 7. Yet they are three otherwise then in meer name operation or manifestation towards us onely being distinct in their relative modes or propertys so that the Father is not the Word nor is the Word or Son the Father allthough he be our Father nor is the Spirit that proceeds from the Father and the Son either the Father or the Son the Father is uncreated and unbegotten the Son or Word from everlasting is uncreated and yet begotten of the Father the Spirit is neither created nor begotten but proceedeth from the Father and the Son from everlasting the Father did not become flesh nor was born and crucified and rose but the Son or Word yet the Father is in the Son the Son in the Father the Spirit that proceedeth from them is was in them and with them from everlasting and is unto everlasting and whatever the Father doth the Word and Spirit do the same being one as in nature so in operation This Father doth all things by the Word and the Father and the word doe all things by the Spirit and yet as they are distinct in the manner or modes of being so also in the manner or modes of operation As the Father is first in the manner of his being so is he first in the manner of operation as the Son is second in the manner of his being so is he second in the manner of operation and as the Spirit is third in the manner of his being so is he third in the manner of operation Yet this priority is not a priority of time but of order for they were three before time even from everlasting and they all cooperat and work together And thus it may appear that we are sound in the faith as touching this great mystery and that we differr not in the matter or thing it self but onely as to the manner of expression which they themselvs grant is not by words divinely inspired as namely a Trinity of persons or three distinct persons Christ and the Apostles who declared of this mystery expressed it not in these termes of three distinct persons nor are these words recorded in Scriptures therefor we are not bound to expresse our faith in these unscripturall termes which the holy Ghost hath not taught nor indeed is there any need of those termes three distinct persons but rather they darken then explain the mystery which have occasioned not onely some of the vulgar but even some of them called the learned to erre grossely in their conceptions about the mystery it self as if the Father the Word and the Spirit were really three distinct substances each having a distinct understanding will and power and as if the word or Son were inferiour in nature to the Father and the Father greater then the Son as Origen is thought by some to have taught and as some do now teach and such although they affirme that the Word and the Spirit are diâ—tinct substances from the Father and that the Father is greater then they yet they do not acknowledg that the Word and Spirit are created or that they have their being from the Father by way of creation but only by way of emanation and they affirme that the Father is onely the most high God and the Word and Spirit inferiour unto him as being God onely by participation from and union with the Father and thus they think to defend themselvs as not being guilty of the Arian heresy whereas it was a branch of the Arian heresy to say that the Son or Word was not equall unto the Father But whither or not they be guilty of the Arian â—eresy sure I am they are in an error occasioned in great part by these unsound and unscriptural terms of three Persons in the Trinity for persons signify substances and not the modes or propertys of one Substance 8. And it is wel known that these words of Three Persons and 3 Hypostases have made great contention in former times and divers judged to be pious and learned men have denyed them and disputed against them as namely Ierome against three hypostases and Augustin disputeth solidely lib. 5. 7. de Trinitate that the words Three Persons are not properly applicable to the Mystery it self although he doth not know what other names to give them and surely it is too great presumption and curiosity in any men to dive further into this mystery then what God hath pleased to reveal or to give names unto it which the Lord hath not given And yet it is more presumption and smelleth rankly of a persecuting spirit to impose upon others these words which the Spirit of God hath not taught nor left upon record in the Scripture and yet becaus we do not own these words of mans wisdom and spirit to cry out against us as blasphemers and as denying the true Christ whereas we believe in and do own the true Christ according both to his God-head and Man-hood more according to the Truth and Testimony of the Scripture then our accusers do as I hope in its due place to shew The Third Particular whereof he accuseth us is that we deny Christ to be a singular Person 9. But this is another quible like unto the former for I ask him What doth he mean by the word Person whether the God-head or both united If he place the personality upon the Godhead it resolveth into the second particular already cleared but the Word or Godhead of Christ is not properly a person but an invisible Power and Life if he place it upon the Manhood as united with the Godhead this is contrary to their own doctrin who teach that the Word did assume the nature of Man but not the person otherwise he would be two persons and thus they distinguish the personality from the nature of man but this is a most
this nature in the said book 10. And certainly this was an immediat sensible appearance and revelation of the power and presence of God accompanying the Ministry of that time which produced such effects and in truth the very same power and presence of God with the very same and the like effects is now again broken forth in our day among the despised people called Quakers and that in much greater clearness so that more sound principles are made known unto us and many things which were letts and snares unto them are discovered unto us from the Lord. 11. And yet is it not a most sad and lamentable thing that Professors who cry up the appearance of God in that time will not owne the same appearance of God in the nature and kind of it although more clear and glorious as to the measure among us now but joyn with the profane rabble to call those unusuall motions which are the reall effects of Gods power and Spirit powerfully seazing upon both souls and bodys of many among us in great trembling cryes and tears the signes of some Diabolicall Possession whereas the same persons by sobriety of life and conversation and by a walk as Christian-like as any of these a fore mentioned in many things exceeding them and also by the savor of the life of Christ in them have evidenced that they were led by the Spirit of God 12. Yea the Author of â—he Postscript is not affraid to impute these unusuall and extraordinary motions that some times appear in the bodyes of some of our friends to a possession of Sathan which if he did as knowingly as maliciously might truely be called a blaspheming against the Holy Ghost But they are judged here by some of their owne prophets for seing it was the Spirit of God that raised these unusuall motions in them abovementioned why should the like now be imputed to the Devill 13. O how like is this generation of hypocriticall professors to the Scribes and Pharisees and Iewes of old who professed to owne the Spirit of God in Moses and the prophets and yet rejected and resisted the same Spirit in Christ and the Apostles 14. And it is observable that this glory of God that appeared among them at that time which was a time of persecution although it continued for some years yet afterwards when the Presbyterians got into the sadle themselvs and turned persecuters of others that dissented from them this glory did disappear and in stead thereof great complaining of deadness as it is at this day among them who have most ingenuity This doth plainly show that they did not follow the Lord in his further leadings but rather went back otherwise this glory would not have departed bâ—t continued yea and increased among them And if some obiect that this glory appeareing unto that people at a communion to wit at that called the Sacrament of the Supper it seemeth to be no small argument to prove that God did owne that externall action as his ordinance although the people called Quakers deny it to be a standing ordinance to the world and doe not practise it 15. To this I answer that it is observable that by the Authors own account the greatest outleting of the Spirit was not on their communion day but on the day after but that God did at times of that externall action of breaking bread condescend unto them regarding their sincerity and gave manifestations of himself will not prove that he commanded that thing unto them or that their minds were not in an error in laying too great weight upon that externall action which was but a figure of the true communion for the same Author doth acknowledge that the Spirit of God did also wonderfully accompany Luther in his Ministry and yet Luther did most grossely erre as in other things so in the matter of the Sacrament teaching that the body of Christ was consubstantiat with the bread and that the oâ—â—ward mouth receiveth the body of Christ. And I believe such as are sober and ingenuous of the Presbyterians will not deny but that the Lord did pour out of his Spirit upon those Bishops in England that dyed martyrs that were both for Episcopacy and the Service-book yet this proveth not that God did owne these things as his ordinances It is the sincerity and earnest desires of mens souls after God that he regardeth although they be in error in some things which he winketh at but doth not owne Yea did not Christ wonderfully appear to Saul while he was going to Damascus to obtain an order to persecute the Saints a very unlâ—wfull action but this proveth not that God allowed 〈◊〉 in the same Many other instances could be given to shew the weakness of that objection and certainly in the darkest times of Popery God raised up some to be ministers of his Spirit that yet continued to hold many Popish errors as not only Bernard and Thauler but even Iohn Huss who disâ—ented little from the Papists in matter of doctrine but mostly blamed their ungodly life 16. A second instance I shall bring out of the afore-said Author is pag. 422. where he giveth as a sixt witness c. the convincing appearance of an extraordinary and Apostolick Spirit on some of these instruments whom the Lord raised up in these last times who as he saith had speciall revelations from the Lord of his mind anent things to come c. But how doth this agree with their confession of Faith that saith the former wayes of Gods revealing himself to his people are ceased since the Apostles dayes and that there are no new revelations of the Spirit but that God hath committed his counsell wholly to writing And of such speciall revelations he mentioneth divers which I refer the Reader to find in the said book 17. A Third instance shall be that which the Author mentioneth of Robert Bruce where I take notice of divers weighty particulars as 1. that his call was extraordinary pag. 429. to wit by an inward motion and pressing of the Spirit and such a call I confess is extraordinary as in respect of the greatest part of those called Teachers which yet is most ordinary yea and most necessary to every true teacher and minister of Christ. 18. 2. He tells pag. 431. that it was the manner of Robert Bruce for a considerable time to keep 〈◊〉 before he preached And yet how do the Professors now blame our silence when even such among us as the Lord hath given a true ministry unto do find it at times their place to be silent a considerable time before they speak and sometimes for a whole diet to be silent as Ezekiel was of old Now I besech them to consider what did this silence of R. B. mean or what was his intent in being siâ—ent so long was it not he waited to receive â—hat he was to speak from the Lord Or at least to 〈◊〉 the Spirit and power of the Lord to assist
him in what perhaps was in his heart to speak and truely this is the very cause of our silence also for we know that no preaching nor praying can availe to quicken or reach the soules of men or profit either speaker or hearers but that which is in the immediat moving and assistance of the Spirit of God 19. 3. He telleth plainly pag. 431. that he had the Spirit of discerning in a great measure in so much that having heard a sermon preached by Robert Blair it being the first he had preached and he being desired by the said Robert Blair to give his judgment concerning the same did give it in these words I found said he your â—ermon very polished and disgested but there is one thing I did misse in it to vvit the Spirit of God I found not that This as the Author saith took a deep impression upon him and helped him to see it was something else to be a minister of Jesus Christ then to be a knowing and eloquent preacher Pag. 453. But the professors generally in this day deny any such Spirit of â—iscerning as whereby one knoweth supposing him to be never so spirituall when he heareth another preach whether he doth preach by the Spirit of God or no when we affirm that the Lord hath given such a discerning unto us they cry out many of them as if it were blasphemy to assert any such thing Again whereas this Author saith it is some vvhat else to be a minister of Iesus Christ then to be a knovving and eloquent preacher we say the same But how farr doth this contradict the Presbyterians doctrine that grace or piety is not essentiall or necessary to the being of a minister of Christ as Iames Durham expressly affirmeth in his book on the Revelation 21. 4. The Author telleth us that the said Robert Bruce was deeply affected with the naughtiness and profanity of many ministers then in the Church and the unsuitable carriage of others to so great a calling and did express much his fear that the Ministers of Scotland would prove the greatest persecuters that the Gospell had And so in this we have found his words to be true for the said Ministry of Scotland even Presbyterian as wel as Episcopall are the greatest persecuters of the Gospell in this day as formerly And their doctrine that Grace or piety is not essentiall to a Minister of Christ nor an inward call by the Spirit opens a door to such a naughty and profane Ministry 22. Pag. 432. 5. He tells that on a certain time when Robert Bruce was at prayer in his chamber in Edinburgh there was such an extraordinary motion on all present so sensible a down-pouring of the Spirit that they could hardly contain themselves yea which was most strange even some unusuall motion on those who were in other parts of the house not knowing the cause at that very instant and one being occasionally present when he went away said O how strange a man is this for he knocked down the Spirit of God upon us all this he said becaus R. B. did divers times knock with his fingers on the table And yet when such motions and effects are now witnessed when the Servants of the Lord pray in our meetings they will not believe but in the same Pharisaâ—call Anti-Christian spirit as the Jewes said of Christ they say of us that we have a devil for which I heartily wish that the Lord may forgive them and open their hearts to understand and receive the Truth Many more observable passages might be cited out of the same book to convince Professors how these men whom they have such an esteeme of did both in principle practice and experience in many things agree with us the People called Quakers against themselvs who boast to be their Successors and children as the Iewes boasted that they were the children of Abraham But surely seing the Professors of this day stop their ears at the inward voyce of Gods Spirit in their own consciences and also at so many plain and clear testimonys of the Holy Scripture that make so abundantly for the Testimony of Truth owned by us I little expect that the testimonys of these men will prevail with many of them yea although even they should come from the dead and witnesse for the Truth against them as Christ said in the 〈◊〉 If they will not believe Moses and the Prophets neither will they believe if one should be raised from the dead Yet for the sake of many others among them of whom I have hope that God will in due time effectually reach them and open their eyes I have found my heart moved and drawn by the Lord to be at this paines for the good of whose soules I could willingly by the Grace of God endure much labour suffering and affliction both inwardly and outwardly that they might see and owne the glorious work and appearance of God among us and be brought to enjoy the same with us 23. And here in the close of all I shall cite a passage of this Author himself which may be of service to some who are willing to understand how that the Presbyterians even the most knowing and experienced of them did not know all that was afterwards to be revealed Page 35. He saith We wait and believe the further accomplishment of this promise to wit the words Dan. last ver 4. Many shall runne to and fro and knowledg shall be increased to the Church beyond all we have yet seen that many Scripture truths now dark and abstruse shall be made so clear as shall even cause us to wonder at the grosse mâ—stakes we once had thereof yea that after generations shall have a discovery and uptaking of some prophecys now obâ—cure which shall as farr exceed us as this time goeth beyond former ages which comparatively we must say were very dark 24. Now I earnestly obtest and beseech such among them as have any measure of true tendernesse and ingenuity and do believe these words of this Author to consider in the cool of their minds if possibly these principles and doctrins among us which they have called grosse errours and delusions of Satan may not be these Scripture truths whereof the Author speaketh and that their condemning such principles were but their grosâ—e mistakes yea surely we know it to be so and many of us that were formerly Presbyterians are now made to wonder at our grosse mistakes which we then had But this I understand of such as are really owned by us not of those which they do falsly alledge and impose upon us I shall cite one or two passages more of this Author and then leave it to the impartial and ingenuous judge if they do not arrive upon the matter at the same which many of his Brethren reproach and nick-name with the Profane rabble under the termes of Enthusiasme and Quakerism 25. Pag. 112. He saith There is a demonstration within which goeth further then
The Way Cast up And the Stumbling-blockes removed from before the feet of those who are seeking the way to ZION with their faces thitherward CONTAINING An Answere to a POSTSCRIPT Printed at the end of SAMUEL RUTHERFORDS Letters third Edition by a namelesse Author indeed not without cause considering the many lyes and falshoods therein against the people called Quakers which are here disproved and refuted and the truth of what we hold touching those Particulars faithfully declared according to the SCRIPTVRES By GEORGE KEITH Prisoner in the Tolbooth of Aberdeen with many 〈…〉 have joyfully suffered the spoiling of our goods 〈…〉 sonement of our bodys for the precious Name 〈…〉 Lord JESUS CHRIST and for the 〈…〉 who hath said forsake not the assembling 〈…〉 together Written in the Spirit of love and 〈…〉 Soule traveling for the everlasting 〈…〉 Souls of all men but especially of them called 〈…〉 to whom this Answere is particularly directed Exodus 23 1. Thou shalt not raise a false report 〈…〉 wicked to be an unrighteous witnesse Prov. 14 25. A true witnesse delivereth souls 〈…〉 speaketh lyes Math. 5 11. Blessed are yee when men shall revile 〈…〉 shall say all manner of evil against 〈…〉 The PREFACE To the READER Having seen a Postscript added to the third edition of Samuel Rutherfords Letters upon occasion of a Letter wrot by him doubtlesse out of zeal to some persons in Aberdeen at the time when they were endeavouring to separat themselvs from the communion of profane and scandalous People reckoned commonly for Membeâ—s of the Chuâ—ch of Scotland and also withdrawing from under the yoak of imposâ—ing Presbyterial government for which he was a sufferer by confinement in Aberdeen in the time of the former Prelaâ—s from which Letter the Author of this Postscript hath taken occasion to vent and vomit forth more malice and bitter prejudice against the despised witnesses of the Lord called Quakers then ever the Scribes and Pharisees did against our Lord Jesus Christ when he was among them in his bodily appearance I have judged fit to desire all sober People that professe the name of Christians and have any knowledge of us or our principles that they would seriously consider if we or our principles deserve such characters as this man hath put upon us seing we are known to many to be an innocent harmlesse and blamelesse people in all our behaviour and conversation makeing conscience of our duty towards God in purity of worship and tenderness of owning the same notwithstanding any threats punishments fines or imprisonments for our faithfulness therein and our real endeavours to obey all his holy commands in which we shall never decline to be tryed by the testimony of the holy and precious Scripturs of Truth Nor are we less known to all neighbours relations and acquaintances to be just and righteous in our dealings towards men Next as to our principles they are so often and upon so many different occasions holden forth to the world in all places where we live that none can pretend ignorance thereof unless it be wilfull Wherefore I shall not enter upon this here being unsutable to a Preface and that so many of our Friends both in our own Nation and in England have performed this task in clearing them from all the malicious and grosse misrepresentations which opposers have laboured to asperse them with so that none needs remaine ignorant of them but such as love to continue so through wilfull prejudice or lazyness at least Wherefore when I perceive from what a height of malice and spleen this Author has vented himself against us by which any may see that the Iewes Turks and Heathens had never more against Christians nor the malice and cruelty of the Papists and Popish Inquisitors in Spain or Italy was ever greater against dissenters from them whom they judged Hereticks I cannot in the least doubt but if this man had power to influence the Civil Magistrate to exercise his power against us he would not onely parallel the cruelty of Heathens and Turks but equal if not exceed the inquisition of Spaine yea those cruel and bloody persecuters in New England who cutt off the ears scourged and tormented severall of our Friends till their flesh was like a Gelly banished divers and hanged three men and a woman 1659 â—660 for no other cause but this very thing that they owned the Testimony of that Truth which we profess and for which we are sufferers this day which may serve abundantly to scare any sober people that profess to owne the meek and lowly Spirit of Jesus yea to cause them to abhorre to keep company or converse with men of such spirits And if any have not yet seen the prejudice to all Civil Interests that flowes from persecution for Conscience I shall referr them to the severall books that have been published thereanent in this age But when I consider the great rage that appears in this man and many of his brethren against us I can not impute it to any thing like zeal for the interest of the Gospel as they would willingly have people believe it being to me most cleare that their chief quarrel is becaus we of all the people that ever appeared are they that have most discovered their pride ambition greedynesse and coveâ—ousness malice and the rest of their deceits we asserting and they denying Immediaâ— Revelation or that God by his Spirit hath any immediat converse with the Souls and hearts of his people by which he doth most clearely make known his will to them and gives the most effectuall call to the Ministry which they have put mostly into the hands of men and made to depend upon an humane ordination Yea some of them derive a succession from the Pope of Rome and hence practically claime a power to be Lords over the faith of Gods people imposing their glosses on the Scripture to be no lesse believed then the Scripture it self and so all that are not of their perswasion must be hereticall and heterodoxe though they lay no claime to be led by an infallible Spirit themselves Again The Lord hath brought us to witnesse the spirituality of worship in preaching praying and praising knowing that God will accept of none but what flowes immediately from the Life of his own Spirit moving in the heart whereas this man and his brethren are for performing all those dutys whether they have this immediate assistance of Gods holy Spirit or not For they have learned by art to supply that defect with their natural and acquired parts else many times they would sit silent in their pulpits whereas now they have layd and do lay a necessity upon themselves and their followers to goe about those dutys at their appoynted times whatever be their temper or condition at the present And according to our principle other besides them may performe these dutys in publick as they find themselves moved and furnished by the Lord whereby their trade and traffick
instanced who have born testimony against studyed sermons and leaning to their Notes and limiting the Holy Spirit I shall for this give but one clear instance amongst the first Reformers for all Franciscus Lambertus Avinionensis in his book de literâ Spiritu 5 Tractat. fol. 84. Printed 1526. His words are these Summè autem de vita ne sequaris morem hypocritarum qui ferme de verbo ad verbum quicquid dicturi sunt scripserunt quasi recitaturi aliquot versus in the atro cum tragoedis totam concionem didicerunt postea cùm sunt in prophetandi loco or ant Dominum ut linguam eorum dirigat sed interim claudentes viam Spiritui Sancto definiunt se nihildicturos praeter id quod scripserunt O infelix prophetarum genus imò vere maledictum quod à suis scriptis aut meditatione non à Dei Spiritu pendet Quid pseudo-propheta or as Dominium ut Spiritum det quo loquaris utilia interim Spiritum repellis Cur praefers tuam meditationem aut studium Spiritui Dei alioqui cur ipsi Spiritui non te committis Fol. 85. He adds Sed tu quisquis es si verè Propheta Dei es docebit te Spiritus Domini quod sanè prophetes Which Englished is thus But chiefly be thou aware that thoâ—u follow not the way of Hypocrits that have writen down almost word by word whatever they are to declare and even as stage-players that are to repeat some verses upon a theatre they have learned and got by heart their whole sermon and when they are in their pulpits pray that the Lord would order or direct their tongues but in the mean time shutting up the way to the Holy Spirit determine to say nothing but that which they have written O unhappy kind of Preachers yea really accursed that depend upon their own writings or meditation and not upon the Spirit of God Thou false prophet why prayest thou to the Lord that he would give thee his Spirit by whose assistance thou mayest preach profitably and yet in the mean time rejectest the Spirit why preferrest thou thy meditation or study to the Spirit of God Otherwise why dost thou not give up thy self to the Holy Spirit But thou whoever thou be if thou art a true Prophet of God the spirit of the Lord will teach thee what thou ought safely tò preach I have set down this at large that all sober people may observe whether the National Preachers or these callâ—d in derision Quakeâ—s are in greatest unity with the fiâ—st Reformers To this puâ—pose I might add that of Calvin against the Papists in his Iâ—stitut Lib. 3 cap. 2. sect 39. and severall other Godly men since his time which for brevity I omitt But seing God has promised a compleat deliverance from Babylon and all Anti-christian idolatry and superstition it is sad that they who profess to pray for it and expect it should oppose it because it comes not in that way and manner as they desiâ—e it Thus that in Isay 53 1 2 3. which was spoken of Christs coming in the flesh outwardly is fulfilled at this time in his inward appearance for it is said He shall grow up before him as a tender Plant and Root out of a dry ground having no forme nor comeliness when we shall see him there is no beauty that we should desire him He is despised and rejected of men c. Because the discoverys of the Truths of God which he hath revealed to these despised people called Quakers are not come out with the authority which a General Assembly c. had and they are a ridiculous people in the carnal eye therefore they are all stigmatized by the wisdom of this world as blasphemys and heresys and so can not be received by many who have been educated and brought up other wayes even as Christ said Luk 5 39. No man having drunk old wine straightway desireth new for he saith the old is better And as upon this account many rejected Christ and his doctrine that were educated under the Mosaical ceremonys so many now adays reject us and our testimony because we are not a people in power and authority in this world and bring new things as to the worlds observation which agree not with their education and it is upon this account and the like that we have been misrepresented by many as the most odious and abominable people that ever appeared But God will vindicat his own truth in his own good time and wipe away our reproach and get us praise and fame in every land where we have been shamefully used Zeph. 3 19. and in the living hope and expectation of the Lords glorious and gracious appearance for us we are content to suffer and beare the most ignominious and disgracefull epithets and characters this Author with many of his brethren hath put upon us such as his calling Quakerism an abyss of all abominations Satans slime and the botch of bell pure devilism monstrous brood swallowing down the dung of all desperat and soul-destroying heresys hatched in hell by the Father of falshoods and â—yes and whatsoever is any of these heresys most dreadfull and damnable that is to them their darling a piece of the black art peculiar to that tribe dishing up the dung of hell the stink of hell blasphemys against God Christ his Spirit his VVord c. a most odious vermin of black locusts that ever croked upon the face of the earth the sound of their blasphemous belchings is to be fled as the very sibilation of the old serpent doctrins of devils as if in this one shape and size of enemies to the Gospel were gathered together and cemented all the severall partys that ever Abaddon and Apollyon comanded in his severall expeditions against the Prince Michaël matters void of the whole Gospel of the Grace of God and of all that blessed contrivance of salvation by the Son of God as a slain Saviour Satans sole trustees and his only janizarys with a multitud of such like characters which were tedious here to relat Against which I shall take up no railing accusation but as the Angel rebuked the devil The Lord rebuke thee Satan It was for the sake of some sober people in this City and Countrey that I wrot this upon the first sight of this Postscript which was in the 4 moneth called Iun last 1676. And now seing my dear Friend G. K. hath since answered it more largely and hath discovered the folly malice mistakes and partialitys of the Author I have yeelded to let it be set down as a Preface to the Reader as my testimony to the precious Truth which the Lord is manifesting in this day wherein he is about to discover the heels and make bare the skirts of all that have transgressed by their iniquitys Ier. 13 22. And if G. K. in this following Answer hath dealth more plainly then will be pleasing to the Author of this
and sensible enjoyments of himself and blessing them more abundantly with the fruits of holyness righteousness and victory over corruption in that despised way then formerly they ever witnessed although their experience of any things that were true among them called presbyterians was not short of many if not of the most of them even in that day Pag. 1. l. 18. That which this great Seer much upon his Masters secrets because he had frequent access to lean his head upon his breast who come ouâ— of the Father's bosom foresaw would follow upon this turning aside and fall upon the head of such forsakers of a Church so often honoured by receiving signall testimonys of the great Bridgroom's love towards her as his Spouse c. Answer 3. I wonder how this man hath the confidence to call this Author a great Seer and to tell us of his being much upon his Master's secrets becaus he had frequent access to lean his head upon his breast who came out of the Father's bosom for these and such like expressions do plainly imply Immediat Revelation and that S. R. was a prophet and had the Spirit of Prophecy in the same sense as any of the Prophets who were Pen-men of the holy Scripturs for what higher elogies could be given to any of the most eminent Prophets then these here and elsewhere given by him to this Author And here I shall set down some other expressions parallel to these in the Postscript or rather surmounting them to be found in the Epistle to the Reader whether one man hath writ that Epistâ—e and the Postscript is not materiall to inquire seing doubtless they are both of one profession if differing persons and he that writes the Postscript ownes the Epistle to the Reader In the beginning of that Epistle he tells us Considering how little need Master Rutherford as he calls him his Letters have of any mans Epistle commendatory his great Master whom he served with his Spirit in the Gospell of his Son having given them one written by his own hand on the hearts of every one who is become his Epistle c. This is the very same commendation that the Spirit of God giveth to Paul who was not behind the chiefest of the Apostles as you may read 2. Cor. 3 1 2 verses And indeed this is the greatest ground why we believe the Scripturs to be divinely inspired becaus the inward Testimony of the Spirit of God which is the Epistle commendatory written by Gods own hand upon the hearts of believers is the Seal of confirmation unto the Scripturs as being divinely inspired And seing GOD doth give the same Seal as this writer plainly affirmeth to S. R. his Epistles that he doth to the Epistles of Paul will it not prove that S. R. his Epistles are as really divinely inspired as Paul's Epistles were and then why may not S. R. his Epistles be put into the Bible with Paul's Epistles This question is the more pertinently put to this man and these of his profession becaus they do so argue against us the People called Quakers that if any of our words or writings be divinley inspired then we equal our writings to the Scripturs For this consâ—quence if it hath any weight at all doth as much fall upon their heads as upon ours and if they do still make a difference betwixt the one and the other although both divinely inâ—pired can not we do the same But he proceedeth in his admirable commendation of this book thus as being a piece the holy Scripturs being set aside equall to any the world hath yet seen or this day can shew in respect of the spiritualness of it A friendly testimony indeed I remember the Presbyterians had wont to commend Calvin's Institutions above any book in the world next to the Scripturs according to these Latine verses made on them Praeter Apostolicas post Christi tempor a chartas Huic peperere librum secula nulla parem And I have heard an eminent Presbyterian Preacher in his pulpit commend the Confession of Faith with the Larger and Shorter Catechism set out by them called the Assembly of Divines at Westminster above all books in the world except the Scriptur But now both Calvin's Institutions and the Confession of Faith must give place to S. R. his Epistles yea and most books in the world besides I write not this to lessen any due worth that belongs to S. R. his Epistles for I acknowledg having read them all over once and many of them severall times I find many savoury expressions in them that savour of that blessed life of Christ revealed of God in my heart yet I must needs say I find also very many unsound and unsavoury expressions in them that the life and Spirit of Christ doth not onely not beare witness for but against as I may afterwards shew 4. I do really believe that there are divers books in the world besids the Scripturs nor shall I bring into the compariâ—on our Friends books lest any say I am partial more sound and more spirituall then this book is and which are more profitable to direct the minds of them who are strangers to Christ where or how to find him little or nothing of which I can find in all this book of S. R. onely somewhat of his own experience but I can not find in him any certain and clear directions certainly and inâ—allibly directing strangers how to attain to the least true spirituall experience nor can I find the least hint or shaddow of a testimony in all his book to the saving power and efficacy of that universall Light of Christ wherewith Christ hath inlightened every man that cometh into the world which blessed heavenly divine testimony I find in many of the Ancients for which cause a few lines of them are of more value to me and all who love Gods Vniversall Gift then this whol book of S. Rs. And I question not but many having as much of a spirituall tast and discerning as any Presbyterian will affirme that the writings of not onely Augustin and the like Ancients but of later writers in darker times as of Bernard Thaulerus Thomas a Kempis and that little booke called The Dutch or German Theology are fully as â—pirituall though I am farr from justifying any errours in these books as neither do I the errours in S. R. his Epistles And although I know the Presbyterians some of them as have seen and read the Dutch Theology account it a most dangerous book and full of blaâ—phemyes as I. L. did call it expresly to I. S. whereof both B. F. I were witnesses in Holland yet Luther doth commend it as one of the best books he had met with next to the Scripturs and Augustin and teaching more sound Divinity then all the Divines in Germany or any where else in that time and he wrot an Epistle commendatory of it which is prefixed to it in some Editions a printed coppy
Saints are not Christ there is no misjudging in him there is much in us and a doubt it is if we shall have fully one heart till we have one heaven our star-light hideth us from our selves and hideth us one from another and Christ from us all but he will not be hiddâ—n from us It is no wonder to me that S. R. found it so dark a time to him when he wrot this for he was then at London carrying on that dark work the Westminster Confession and Catechism which crieth down all new revelations of the Spirit and crieth up sinn for terme of life and in that large description they give of GOD out of the Scripture and of CHRIST they altogether omitt these two most excellent and significative that God is Light and in him is no darkness at all and that Christ is the true Light that enlighteneth every man that cometh into the world It â—eemeth verily the true Light had small place in their hearts that they did so altogether forget it However it is wel that S. R. confesseth there is much misjudging in himself and his Bretbren It is possible then that he misjudged these sober people at Aberdeen as they wel know he did for whereas he threatned that if they did forsake the National Presbyterian Church Christ would forsake them but S. R. is not Christ nor are all his sayings Christ's these people have found more of Christ since that time then before and they may on good ground better believe their own experience then his rash uncharitable judgings I write not these things in the least out of prejudice to S. R. his memory or as if I did conclude that he has not found mercy with the Lord God forbid I should harbour any such uncharitable thought onely becaus the Author of the Postscript brings in his testimony against those people at Aberdeen and layeth such weight upon it I found my self more concerned in the love and zeal of God to take some pains to remove this stumbling block out of the way of the simple as becaus such a good man as S. R. judged so of such a people and of such a way therefor it is bad which yet will have no more weight with those that are truely judicious then when the Papists tell us of their eminent Saints who had such holy lives and witnessed so much of spirituall communion with God and yet opposed the Waldenses as great Hereticks and cried up the Church of Rome as the onely true Church will have weight with us either to believe the one or the other And I do not question it but Bernard who lived in the darkest times of Popery was as holy a man and had as much or rather more spirituall experience as S. R. as his writings do declare to any who have the true spirituall discerning and shall compare Bernard's with those of S. R. and yet the same Bernard was a most vehement opposer of the Waldenses who were a good people and bore a true and faithfull testimony in their day according to the discovery given them of God against the idolatry and superstition of the Church of Rome 4. But before I leave this particular I shall take notice of another thing that will serve not a little to discover how weak S. R. his authority is as to his peremptory conclusion he made concerning those few sober people at Aberdeen which was no less then this that if they did forsake the Nationall Church Christ would forsake them which threatning the Author of the Postscript looketh upon to be a divine prediction confirmed by their since turning to Quakeriâ—in which he calls the abyss of all abominations But I ask this Author of the Postscript Can any divine prediction contradict an article of Faith If he say nay then I query again Is it not an article of the Presbyterian faith that none truely gracious in the least measure can totally fall away from grace or be totally forsaken of God This is their express doctrine whereupon it will follow that none truely gracious can fall into Quakerism which he calls the abyss of all abominations the â—otch of hell yea pure hellism and devilism again seing their falling into Independency was the sinn that provoked God as this Author would have it to suffer them to fall thus it is clear that according to S. R. none truely gracious can turn Independent seing to turn Independent is to be forsaken of Christ as he doth positively threaten in his Letter and yet in the same Letter he telleth them of their work of faith and labour of love and patience of hopâ— in our Lord Iesus as also he tells them of their being sealed unto the day of redemption and having received the Spirit by the hearing of Faith All which plainly import their being in a state of Grace and if either he or the Author of the Postscript think that after all this they could fall away so as to be forsaken of Christ they contradict their own principle If he reply that S. R. judged them to be Saints onely in a judgment of charity I Answer by inquiring whether this his judgment of charity was true or false from his own spirit or from the Spirit of God for there is no midst If he say it was false and from his own spirit and not froâ— the Spirit of God then surely these People whom he so threatned had no cause to fear or look upon him as a Prophet or divinely inspired in the writing of this Letter seing he begins with a false judgment that is confessed to be from his own spirit and not from the Spirit of the Lord. And seing the Author of the Postscript will allow him to have been greatly mistaken in his judging them to be Saints we may with as much ground in all reason judg him to be mistaken when he did so threaten them that Christ would forsake them but if they never had Christ how could he forsake them 5. We need not feare such predictions as carry in their bosome flat contradictions but S. R. did not think Independency inconsistent with the Grace of God for Ep 53 part 3. he giveth an express testimony of some Independents particularly Thomas Godwyn Ieremiah Burroughs that they were gracious men so he telleth that he conceived of them which abundantly proves he thought men might be truly gracious and yet Independents and mighty opposits to Presbyteriall government as his words in that Epistle shew SECTION III. 1. The Presbyterian Reformation not a matter to make so great a boast of as the Author doth 2. That S. R. said in Presbytry the letter onely was reformed and scarce that and that God will not build his Zion on that skin of reformation 3. Many thousands of the Presbyterian Church not fit to be members of a wel ordered humane society 4. A precious life stirring among many Presbyterians especially in the West 40 years ago and upwards 5. The Presbyterians did not goe foreward
been among them It is easily answered that they did not ow this piety to the Presbyterian Church but to the Grace of God which is Vniversall For the Grace of God that bringeth Salvation hath shined in All so Beza translates it Tit 2 10 11. and this Grace teacheth to deny ungodlyness and worldly lusts and to live righteously and soberly and godlily in this present world And whoever in any age or place of the world joyned their hearts unto this Grace and did believe and obey its teachings it made them good and pious men so that they did excell others in many good things although by reason of the darkness and corruption of the ages and places where they lived the prejudice of education and custom prevailed so farr that they also were dark and ignorant in many things Yet the Lord regarding their sincerity winked at their ignorance in those things And thus the Apostle Paul takes notice of some among the Gentils in the time of Heathenism who were a Law unto themselvs and did by Natur to wit the Divine Nature of the Word ingrafted in them Iames 1. or by their own nature restored and repaired by the Grace of God as Augustin expounded that place the things contained in the Law such was Socrates among the Gracians whom Iustin Martyr in one of his Apologys did expressly call a Christian and classeth him with Abraham c. 2. Also all along the dark times of popery the Lord raised up some even in the very heart of the popish Church that excelled others in vertue and piety and were as Lights shining in a dark place and witnesses to the truth some in some things and some in others and yet even these men lived still in the Popish Church and in too many things were carryed away and tinctured with divers corruptions and superstitions Of this Illyricus in his Catologus â—estium veritatis giveth an account And the Author of Fasciculus temporum with divers other Historians And particularly our country-man Alexander Petry in his Church History from the year 600 unto the year 1600 as in the seventh Century Gregory called the Great and Isidorus in the eighth Century Iohn Damascen and Aponius in the ninth century Claudius Turinensis Bishop of Turin and Rabanus Maurus in the tenth Century a very dark age Theophilact Arch-bishop of Bulgaria and Smaragdus a Benedictin Abbot in the eleventh Century Berno and Fulbert Bishop of Carnatum in the twelfth Century Hugo de S. Victore and Bernard of Clarevall in the thirteenth age Gulielmus Bishop of Paris and Ioachim Abbot of Calabria in the fourteenth age or Century Dante 's Aligerius and Robertus Gallus this Robertus Gallus was a Franciscan Frier and had propheticall visions which were interpreted to him by the Spirit of God there is a Treatise under his name printed together with the Prophecyes of Hildegardis a Woman prophetesse in the Church of Rome of both whose Prophecyes Fox takes speciall notice in his Martyrology And in the fifteenth Century Vincentius a Venetian who also prophecyed against the Clergy and Theodorick Vrias There was also another Theodorick Bishop of Croatia that prophecyed in this same age that the Church of Rome should be brought to nought and that Iustice which hath been shut up in darkness shall come into Light and the true Church shall flourish in Godlyness more then she hath done In this age also lived Iohn Huss a pious and vertuous man whom the Papists burnt as an heretick and yet the same good Man retained divers Popish opinions Now in the sixteenth century the reformation from the grossness of Popery began by Luther in Germany and the Lord raised up divers other instruments in other nations as in France in England and also in Scotland and many worthy men dyed martyrs and seaâ—ed to the truth with their blood before the Presbyterian Reformation yea some that were Bishops in England dyed martyrs for the truth as Cranmer Ridly Latimâ—r Therefor albeit I grant that ther hath been divers pious men among the Presbyterians some who enjoyed communion with God in Spirit and some also who had a Prophetiâ—all Spirit and were accompanyed with the power of God in their ministry 40 years ago upwards and were made blessed instruments of God to many soules in that day to whom the Lord gave signall Testimonys of his love and of his admitting them at times unto near communion with him among whom were chiefly Iohn Welsh Robert Bruce Davidson and Patrick Simpson and divers others concerning whom the Author of the fullfilling of the Scripturs gives an account And I do verily believe they were pious men and had precious feelings of the life and power of God which did at times accompany them in their ministry whereby many soules were reached and converted unto God And as touching some things related by the Author concerning these men I may afterwards in its due place take notice which will not a little make for the present testimony of the people called Quakers But all this will not in the least prove that the Presbyterian Natioâ—all Church was the true Church of Christ and needeth no further Reformation from many thingâ— then it will prove that the Popish Church was the true Church of Christ which as I have already mentioned had pious and vertuous men and some of them indued with the Propheticall Spirit Also the Episcopall English Church in the dayes of Q. Maâ—â— had very excellent men that were Bishops and some of them were burned for the truth yet thiâ— proveth not that the English Church was sufficiently reformed or that those called Puritans who would not conforme to her did sin or were guilty of Schisme And I suppose the Presbyterians will noâ— deny but Luther for piety and zeal may be compared with any of these in Scotland and yet Luther was no Presbyterian and the Lutherans have had since Luther divers excellent men of whom I caâ— not forbear to mention Iohannes Arnd who hath writt a more Spirituall treatise of Spritual doctrin containing more spiritual and profitable Doctrin then any book that ever I could see writt by any Presbyterian and yet the Lutherâ—ns differr faâ—â— from Presbyterians Nor should the Presbyterians in Scotland so exalt themselves above all other Churches becaus some in their Church were indued with a Prophetical Spirit for as I have already mentioned divers in the Popish Church had the Spirit of Prophecy as Fox in his Martyrology doth bear witness â— I must needs say that as for Spiritual doctrin some Mysticks among the Papists hav exceeded any Pâ—esbyterian Writer that ever I could yet see And to speak freely that one little book De imitationâ— Christâ— said to be written by Thomas a Kempis a Popish Monck is really to me a more usefull book for spirituall doctrin then all the Presbyterian books in the world that ever I saw and I believe hath fewer errors in it I except the last book concerning the
Sacrament of the Altar becaus for good reasons it is judged not to be his but a spurious birth of some other Writer and it is not to be found in some of the most ancient coppys This little book of Thomas a Kempis hath had an exceeding great reception among Protestants of all sorts onely some peevish narrow-spirited Presbyterians can not endure to hear it commended becaus writ by one that lived in the Church of Rome in a dark time and yet the doctrin of it excellâ—th that of their most spirituall Preachers It is a most unreasonable thing to cry up a faction or party or particular Church becaus of some excellent men that have been among them and perhaps zealous for that way 3. For indeed few Professions or Sects in Christianity but have had some excellent men in them The Baptists in Holland have had some also they had faithfull and zealous men that dyed Martyrs and were put to death by Papists And both Independents and Baptists in England had some excellent men among them whose labours no doubt the Lord did bless with his presence Few hills so barren but some excâ—llent medicinal herbs grow upon them and in their bowells there are some mines of gold and silver and some deserts yeeld Diamonds and precious stones So I shall most willingly grant there have been holy and spirituall men in the Presbyterian Church that have known â—ommunion with God in spirit in a blessed measure and were faithfull in the talents given them of God And I believe their soules are entered into everlasting rest and their memory is as a box of precious oyntment among others of the Lordâ— Witnesses in other professions and places of the world And though they have been hâ—noured by receiving signal testimonys of â—he Great Bridegroomes love towards them as his spouse in reâ—oycing over them with singing and frequently helped to givâ— him testimonys of their endeared affection to him â— Head Husband Supreme Lord and Governour yet I altogether deny that such high commendation doth belong to the National Presbyterian Church in the heap or indeed to any considerable part oâ— her for they who had any measure of true pietâ— among them did certainly beare as small proportion unto the body of the Nation as the white of the eyes and teeth in an Ethiopian or Black mor doth unto the rest of his body 4. But alas The Presbyterians in our days both Teachers and People are shâ—mefully declined from the footsteps and spirit of those antient good men and this generation now living is no more of the true faith and spirit of these Worthy men then the Iewes that put Christ to death were of the faith and spirit of Abraham 5. But that the Presbyterian Church deserveth â—o such commendation as this Author gives her as â—eing so frequently helped to give him testimonys of â—er endeared affection to him as her head husband â—upream Lord and Governour we need goe no â—urther to bring witnesses to confute this then 〈◊〉 own treacherous practices upon every occasion 〈◊〉 had to shew her infidelity For although she â—â—yed up the Presbyterian goverenment as being 〈◊〉 a Divine right and the onely government estaâ—â—â—shed by Christ in the Church yet at two seveâ—ll times the National Presbyterian Church when â—â—elacy was imposed by the supreame Magistrat 〈◊〉 received it and at lest in outward appearance â—â—atever she was in her heart turned Prelatical 〈◊〉 most shamefully conformed to that which 〈◊〉 hath often called Anti-Christian The first time was when King Iames the Sixth â—ught in Prelacy which lasted about 28 years And the second time when it was again introduced of late years and is at this present day remaining And I can not think that the Author of the Postscript thinketh the National Church of Scotland at this present time Presbyterian otherwise she is a great Hypocrit seing she doth outwardlâ— conforme to Episcopacy so that whereas there arâ— reckoned to be in this Nation about a thousanâ— Parishes yet so farr as I can understand or learnâ— there is not One parish in all the Nation that 〈◊〉 kâ—ept it self intirely free from conformity And it 〈◊〉 welknown that the body of the Nation is conformed to Episcopacy and the farr greatest numberâ— the Presbyterian Teachers conformed also 〈◊〉 some of them who were zealous for presbyteriâ—â— government are become Bishops And indeâ—â— they who have not conformed beare little or 〈◊〉 proportion considerable to them who have 〈◊〉 the Presbyterian Non conformist Teachers have gâ—â—nerally manifested base and unchristian cowardiâ—â— in running away from their flocks through fear suffering and exposing them to those they 〈◊〉 to be Wolves and some of them are fled beyoâ—â— Sea Others lurk in corners here and there 〈◊〉 keep privat conventicles where many times 〈◊〉 preach Sedition against their Lâ—wfull Prince instigation of whom that insurrection happâ—â—ed 1666. 6. And some of them have printed books in defence of the lawfulness of making waâ—r against the Suprem Magistrat in order to reestablish the Presbyterian Government a way flat contradictory to the nature of the Gospel to the express commands of Christ and also to the practice of the primitive Christians to make any carnal or military resistence so much as in their own defence which lasted for hundreds of years so that it is but of later times that any professing the Name of Christianity did offer to defend themselvs by carnal weapons against their Lawfull Magistrats During the ten persecutions not so much as a shaddow of any such thing is to be found in Church history And yet as Tertullian gives an account who lived in the heart of those persecutions it was not for want of number or strength that they did not oppose themselves in their own defence but onely becaus they were Christians 7. And although suffering be a thing greatly commended and also commanded under the Gospell and is as S. R. calles it in one of his Epistles a great part of the Ministry yet I know not if the Presbyterians can instance one single person of them all since the late revolution that have suffered or do at present suffer for Conscience sake in a pure and cleanly way I mean for matters purely Evangelical and out of pure Conscience for such of them who did suffer had not keept their hands clean from too much incroaching upon affairs of the Stat and power of the Magistrat so that they had little cause to glory in those sufferings 8. And if the Presbyterians think they have had any Martyrs for Presbyterian government yet this will not commend their Church above the Episcopal which hath had its Sufferers also who have suffered unto death and whose Sufferings were as much matters of Conscience unto them as the Presbyterians was unto them Yea the Episcopal Church gloryeth that she had one of the most religious Kings that either then was or had been in the world for many ages a Martyr for her whose life was worth many
thousands of others 9. And in very truth the Presbyterian Church will never be able to purge her self of the iniquity of the killing of many thousands in the three Nations by the occasion of a most bloody warr raised up through the instigation of the Presbyterian Teachers I am fully perswaded of it that the Presbyterian Church hath as much blood-guiltiness lieing on her head unwashed off as any People called a Church that I know of in the world next unto the bloody Church of Rome And as she hath drunk the blood of many so blood hath been given her to drink and it is to be feared that more will be given to her as a just judgment from the hand of God except she repent and condemn that blood-thirsty spirit that hath too much led and influenced her And I am wel assâ—red of it that a bloody Church is noâ—rue Church of Christ for the true Church of Christ is washed by the blood of Christ fâ—om all lust or desire to shed blood Shâ— can suffer her blood to be shed for Christ but she is white and pure from the blood of others 10. The Lord would not have David to build his house becaus he had been a man of warr and had shed much blâ—â—d O! that the Presbyterians could read the spiritual signification of this If the house of God under the Law was not to be built by a man of blood although in the sheding of the blood of the Lords enemies he was allowed shall the house of God under the Gospel be built by men of blood And who have shed so much of the blood of their very Brethren of the same profession both as Christians and as Protestants onely differing from them as to some small circumstances and worldly matters Surely Nay 11. And if there were no more this one consideration might be enough to peswad any man that believes the Scripture testimony and hath the least â—rue understanding of the nature of a Gospel Church that God will never honour the Presbyteriâ—n party to build his Zion or Gospel Church in â—his Land nay from the Lord God I have seen and do see her rejected from having any part or portion in this honourable work 12. Although I do believe the L'ord will make use of many among that people but it will be after he has washed them and purged from them the spirit of blood and of much other filthyness by his Spirit of iudgment aâ—d of burning that he will make them as stones of his building But I know it from the Lord God by his Spirit in me and from the same I declare it that the Presbyterian Church as such and as holding such bloody and Anti-Christian and otherwayes unsound principles and doctrines shall never be honoured of the Lord to build his true Zion in this Land it is the Word of the Lord God in my heart and the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it and sealed it again and again in me and their labouring to doe such a thing shall be but as men labouring in the fire and like unto them who essayed again to build Ierâ—cho 13. And this I warned them of from the Lord about eleven years agoe in my book called Helâ— in time of Need printed in the year 1655 whicâ— was a year before their insurrection in the West Yet I most assuredly know that the Lord will builâ— unto himself a glorious Church in this Land and therein I aggree with S. R. What he writs in divers Epistles as Ep. 7. part 1. a dry wind upoâ— Scotland but neither to fan nor cleanse but out of all question when the Lord hath cut down his forrest the after-growth of Lebanon shall flourish they shall plant vines in our mountains and a cloud shall yet fill the Temple Again Ep. 55. part 1. there shall be a fair green young garden for Christ in this Land c. Again Ep. 70. I believe our Lord once again shall water with his dew the withered hill of mount Zion in Scotland and come down and make a new marriage again as he did long since he addes Remember our Covenant See also Ep. 34. and 2 part Ep. 56 and 57. and part 3 Ep. 13. 14. But what means the matter These words of S. R. hold forth a great back sliding and apostasy of the Presbyterian Church according to this great Seer S. R. Otherwise what neeâ—d of a new marriage but let us hear him express his mind more distinctly concerning this so highly commended Presbyterian Church part I Ep. 34. he saith We wo wo be to apostat Scotland there is wrath and a cup of the red wine of the wrath of God Almighty in the Lords hand that they shall drink and spue and fall aud not rise again and part 1. Ep. 43. But this Nation hath forsaken the fountain of living Waters And part 1. Ep. 54. This is a black day a day of clouds and darkness for the roof-tree of my Lord Iesus his fair temple is faln and Christ's back is towards Scotland and part 1. Ep 1. yet more distinctly My heart is 〈◊〉 indeed for my mother Church that hath played the barlot with many lovers her husband hath a mind to sell her for her horrible transgressions and heavy will the hand of the Lord he upon this back-sliding Nation All this and much more might be cited out of his Epistles do prove that S. R. had no such thoughts of the Presbyterian Châ—rch which he calleth his mother Church in the time he wrot those Epistles which was at Aberdeen the best time he ever knew and had great nearness unto the Lord. 15. And whatever faith S. R. had of the Lord his appearing again to reforme the Land by the Covenant yet we find that in his later days his faith was very wavering and uncertain touching the Covenant its being made an instrument of reformation for thus he writs Ep. 70. part 2. I believe he comes quickly who will remove our darkness and will shine gloriously in the Isle of Britan as a crowned King either in a formally sworn Covenant or in his own glorious way which I leave to the determination of his infinit Wisdom and Goodness It seemeth he had some other way in his view as possible if not probable which God would take to reforme the Church then the Covenant that instrument of so much blood Hower this is certain his faith was very uncertain about the matter now in his dyeing days and he speaks not at all as any true Prophet of the Lord in this matter Albeit the Presbyterians generally are still so blind and darke that they positively judg that the covenant will be a main thing that God will make use of to reforme the Land and that both Covenant and Presbytery will up again where as S. R. is unclear in the matter 16. And I could tell them of one of themselves whom they judge no lesse then a martyr for the cause that published his mind in
print before his death some years that God had forsaken their Nationall Church and was not like to return to her again and he answereth all the common reasons from Sciptur or the Covenant that seemed to prove that the Lord would return unto them and plainly sheweth the weakness and invalidity of them The book is in the hands of many which I have read and I had it from the mouth of an honest faithfull man that he heard Iohn Livingston say in prayer Lord since Dumbar thou hast spit in our face and since that never looked over thy shoulder to us again This is he whom the Author of the Postscript calls that great man of God and this prayer he had in a certain family in Aberdeen And this is that Church that was such an apostat and whom the Lord had so forsaken by the confession of their chief Seers and who indeed was never a true Gospell Church that we the people called Quakers have forsaken and we are resolved by Gods grace never to return unto her for the Lord hath said unto us let them come unto you but goe not ye unto them the Lord hath added divers who were among them and under that profession unto us and will add many more yea thousands in due time for the Lord hath a precious seed to gather out from among them And there are many among them I know who have true breathings after the Lord and these in due time the Lord will regard and bring them to his Zion which he has begun to build in great glory even in and among the people called in Scorne Quakers SECTION V. 1. What is said against the Presbyterian Church in general as national and as being so guilty of persecution and blood is not understood of all that goe under that name many among them being free of such crimes and of a more sober Spirit and principles 2. An Apology why I frequently use the word Presbyterian 3. Presbytery too good a name for them unless with this addition Pseudo-Presbytery that is Prâ—sbytery falsely so called 4. The Presbyterian Church guilty of denying the true Christ who would exclud him out of the very Saints 5. The Presbyterian Church a foolish builder and guilty of very bad and Vnchristian Doctrins 6. The Presbyterian Church although she pretend to be more for a spritual way of preaching and worshiping then the Papal or Episcopal yet upon the matter she is not one jot more for the same then they are proved by divers Instances 7. Two Questions put to the Presbyterians 8. A list of the râ—viling false acousations and railing speeches of the Author of the Postscript against the people called Quakers 9. Presbyterian teachers have not that credit now with many people as to make them believe whatever they say with an implicit faith as formerly they too much had 1. ANd as to what I have said in generall against the Presbyterian Church as Nationall and as being so guilty of persecution and blood I understand it not of all that goe under that name for I doe believe many among them are altogether free of having a hand in such things and are of a more sober Spirit and of more sober principles but I understand it of a great faction and party of them that did most prevail and carryed away many simple wel-meaning people along with them what by deceitfull perswasions and what by fears And I know many that were so carryed away are now come to see the evil of these practices and are resolved never to concurre in or countenance the like of them again But especially the Presbyterian Clergy and priesthood had the main hand and stroak in these disorders and all to uphold their kingdom and gratify their lust and ambition 2. And that I have so frequently used the word Presbyterian or may afterwards use it is onely for distinction's sake becaus I know not how otherwise to designe them yet I am farr from judging them to be true Presbyterians or that their Classicall judicatorys were true Presbyterys such as were in the primitive times And therefore Presbytery is too good a name to give them unless with this addition Pseudo-Presbyterâ— that is to say Presbytery falsly so called seing they have so positively denyed that which gives the very life and being either to any true Church or Presbytery viz the immediat Revelation and 〈◊〉 teachings and leadings of the Spirit of Christ in every member so that as of old there were who called themselvs Iewes and Apostles and were not so these Presbyterians call themselves true Preâ—â—â—â—erys but are no more so then a dead image of a man is a true man And indeed who ever hath a true knowledge of either the Gospell or a true Gospell Church will see that with good reason and good ground we have forsaken the Presbyterian and Nationall Church and that not only becaus of her bad practices but also for her bad anti-Christian and unsound Doctrins in many things she denying the real in-being and reveâ—ation of Iesâ—â— Christ in any of her Members or indeed in any men in those days 4. And although she falsly accuse us as denying the true Christ yet I hope to make it apparent that she and not we are the denyers of him who would exclud him out of the very Saints and altogether confine him to some particular place but this I intend to reserve till afterwards 5. Also she discovereth her self to be a very foolish builder who maketh her foundation so narrow and her building so wide for no less then the whole Nation she would take into her building yea all Nations if she could And yet the true and saving Power and Grace of Christ Iesus which â—elongs to the very foundation of the Church she â—ill onely have it extended but to a small number of â—er members and that the greatest part have neither â—eceived this Grace nor ever shall but are excludâ—d inevitably from it without their own consent â—y Gods absolut decree that barreth them out from 〈◊〉 possibility of Salvation before they ever came 〈◊〉 the world Surely this is too narrow a foundaion for so wide a building and it is but a small â—avour to so many thousands of her members than â—hey are not so much as under any possibility of Salvation yea it seems they are rather the worse then the better for being her Church members seing to the boot they shall be more guilty of condemnation then the Heathen who never heard the Gospel outwardly preached and yet neveâ— a whit the more near unto Salvation These arâ— sad tidings she preacheth to her Church members Again her most eminent Saints she leaveth theâ— still in the dirt and mire of sin for term of life and tells them they can never be free from sin iâ— this life but sin and can not but sin daily in thoughâ— word and deed Surely such un-Christian Doctrins with many more could be named an ground enough for any man whose
a comfortable then 〈◊〉 is a true doctrin that we have the Man Iesus Christ 〈◊〉 near unto us in virtue of his Divine Life and Soul in his Divine Seed and Body extended into us and thus he is the Incarnat Word or Word made flesh â—welling in our flesh and is made like unto us for as we are flesh so he is flesh also but of a more excellent make or creation And thus he is the Brideâ—room and Husband of our Souls to whom we may approach and whom we may kiss and imbrace and handle with the hands of our Soul and whose glory we may behold even the glory of the Word made flesh and dwelling in us Whereas the glory of the Word as it was in God before it became flesh or cloathed it self with the heavenly Manhood no eye of Angel or Saint ever could or can behold for the Glory of the Word simply considered in God out of the Manhood of Christ is God himself without any middle or Mediator 8. And this none hath ever seen or can see no not the most glorious Angels but it is the Word made flesh or God made manifest in flesh to wit in the Heavenly Flesh or Manhood of Christ that is the alone proper and adequat object of the contemplation and enjoyment of the most glorious Angels as wel as of the most Holy Souls as Paul declared Great is the mystery of Godlyness God manifest in thâ— flesh c. seen of Angels Observe here it is not God simply but God manifest in flesh that is seen of Angels and is believed on in the world although he was both seen of Angels and believed on in the world long before he was manifest in that outward body of Flesh which was also a most glorious manifestation and excelleth in glory all the outward manifestations that ever were or shall be but the Angels and Saints did really see him before that nanifestation in outward flesh and the Saints do now really see him although his outward body and external person be not now present for us to behold 9. Yet the Word Incarnate or made flesh and called by Iames the Ingrafted Word we do really see for it 〈◊〉 in us and unlesse it were made flesh or incarnate it could not be ingrafted into us for all ingrafting or implanting requireth some similiâ—ude or analogy of nature and substance therefore we can not graffe an apple or cherry-graffe upon stone or iron or bare earth by reason of the great unlikenesse and distance of their natures and yet the Word simply and nakedly considered in God before it was made flesh is more unlike unto us and in nature more remote from us then an apple is from stone or iron Therefore to the end that the Word may be ingrafted into us and we again ingrafted into it the Word must be incarnate or become flesh as we are for all men are a sort of flesh and so called in Scripture in comparison of God that is purely a Spirit and though the Souls of men 〈◊〉 Spirits yet comparatively as unto God they are as it were flesh And thus the Word is become flesh that is to say hath advanced a step or degree nearer unto us then as it was in God before any thing was made and the Word was first of all made flesh to be the Root and Foundation of all other created beings and for which they are created 10. For it is a more noble creation then all things else and is 〈◊〉 this creation as the Apostle declared expressly Heb. 9 11. the words not of this 〈◊〉 should be translated not of his creation 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and therefore some think fit rather to call it an emanation from God then a creation to speak strictly which I shall not dispute about for it rather is a strife about words then in the thing it self Now when I say that the Light Life and Spirit of the Heavenly Man Christ Jesus is not in us as in respect of its Fountain and Center or Spring but onely by way of emanation or participation we deriving it from that Central Light and Life that was in him that was born of the Virgin Mary 11. I do by no means acknowledg or understand that the Deity had onely its Center in that Man and from him doth ray into us for the most Blessed and Glorious Deity properly hath no center and rays distinct by way of emanation but rather is all Center according to that noted saying of Hermes Trismegist God is a Circle whose centâ—â— is every where and is no where circumscribed And therefore the Blessed Deity is as centrally and essentially in us as in the Man Christ Iesus 12. But still as in respect of union manifestation and operation and also in respect â—f communion and fellowship the Man Christ Jesus or Word Incarnate is the onely and proper middle and Mediator betwixt God and us so that whereâ—â— God is immediatly united with the Man Christ Jesus no other men or Angels have or indeed are capable to have an immediat union with God their union is onely mediat with God and so their communion and fellowship with him is but mediat also by the means of Christ Jesus although in respect of other means it is immediat And of this I found needfull once for all to acquaint the Reader to prevent his misâ—â—ke SECTION XII 1. How much more truely we own aud esteeme the Manhood of Christ then the Author of the Postscript or his Brethren 2. A testimony of Luther for the Man Christ his being every where 3. Another Testimony from those who imbraced the Aungustane Confession in that Treatise called Liber Concordiae that Christ as Man is really present with the Saints on Earth 4. The Lutherans grosse errour in the manner of this presence hath given occasion to many to deny the Truth it self becaus they could not understand the manner 5. The manner offered in this Treatise most consonant both to Scripture and Reason and almost to Sense 6. How Iohn saw the Son of Man in the midst of the golden candlesticks after his Ascersion 8. How Christ 〈◊〉 the ladder by which we ascend unto God 8. The Nephesch and Neschamah of Christs Soul distinâ—guished 9. Christ his spirituall coming in his Saints as the Son of Man Maâ—th c 16 ver 28. 10. A Testimony of Calvin that Christ as Man doth sanctify us and give us Grace 11. Some testimonys from S. R. his Epistles that Christ is in the Saints not onely by his Graâ—es but by himself 12. Another Testimony of Calvin 13. That S. R. speaketh of the Man Christ his being in the Saints 14. Many call that hâ—rrid blasphemy in us which they commend in S. R. and others of their own Teachers which is great injustice and partiality 15. Christ his knowing the heart of the Samaritan Woman and curing the woman of Canaan of her issue of blood proveth the extension of his Soul and Life or Spirit
aforesaid as he is the Heavenly Man 1. ANd thus it may appear how much more truely according to the Scripture and our own blessed experience agreeing most exactly with the experience of the Saints of old we own and esteeme of the Manhoâ—â— of Christ Iesus above whatever the Author of the Postscript or his Brethren did acknowledg who would exclude the Heavenly Man or Second Adam Iesus Christ altogether out of the very Saints whereas the Second Adam is the quickening Spirit that raiseth up both Soul and body into Life as Paul declared 2. And indeed Luther did conceive a most just indignation and zeal against them such as this Presbyterian is who exclude the Manhood of Christ out of the Saints and confine it to one place For thus he writeth in his Larger Confession of the Supper of the Lord. Absit autem ut ego talem Deum agnoscam aut colam ex his enim consequeretur quod locus spatium possent duas natur as separare personam Christi dividere quam tamen neque mors neque omnes diaboli dividere aut separare potuere Et quanti tandem obsecro pretii esset talis Christus qui unico tantum loco simul divina humanâ— personâ— esset in omnibus voro locis dunâ—axat quidem separatus Deus aut divina persona esset sine assumptâ suâ humanitate In English thus Far be it from me that I should acknowledg or worship such a God for hence it should follow that place and space could separat the two naturs and divide the person of Christ which neither death nor all the devils could ever doe And I pray of what worth were such a Christ who â—n one onely place should be both a divine and humane person together but in all other places should be God separat or a divine person without his assumed humanity 3. And also those who embraced the Augustan confession in that Treatise called Liber Concorâ—â—a where they give a new declaration of some articles in that confession upon the head concerning the person of Christ speak their mind very notably in these following words which expresse the very something upon the matter as to the generall that 〈◊〉 plead for Quare perniciosum error om esse judicamus quando Christo juxta humanitatem Majestas illa derogatur Christianis enim eâ ratione summa illa consolatio eripitur quam è promissionibus paulò antè commemoratis de presentiâ inhabitatione capitis Regis summi sui Pontificis haurire poterant Is enim promisiâ— non modò nudam suam divinitatem ipsis praesto futuram quae nobis miseris peccatoribus est tanquam ignis consumens arridissimas stipulas seâ— ille ipse homo ille qui cum discipulis loquutuâ— est qui omnis generis tribulationâ—s in assumptâ— suâ humanâ naturâ gustavit qui eâ de causâ nobis ut hominibus fratribus suis condâ—lere potest se in omnibus angustiis nostris nobiscum futurum promisit secundum eam eciam naturam juxta quam ille Frater noster esâ— â— nos caro de carne ejus sumus In English thus Wherefore say they we iudge it to be a hurtfulâ— error when that majesty is derogated from Christ according to his manhood for by that means thâ— most great consolation is robbed from Christians which they could have drawn from the promises a little before mentioned concerning the presence and â—ndwelling of their head King and high Priest For he promised that not onely his Godhead should be present with them which to us miserable sinners is as a fire consuming most dry stubble but the same that man who spake with his disciples who tasted all kind of tribulations in his assumed manhood who for that cause can be grieved with us being also men and his brethren did promise that he would be with us in all our afflictions also according to that nature by which he is our Brother and we are flesh of his flesh 4. But the Lutherans conceit that the externall person of Christ not onely virtually but formally is in every place yea the wole in the whole and the whole of it in every part is so absurd and repugnant unto rational perception that from this many have taken occasion unjustly to deny the Truth it self becaus they did not see how this manner of the Lutherans of the ubiquity of the man Christ could consist with Reason 5. Whereas the manner offered by me is most consonant both to Scripture and Reason yea and almost to Sense it self for there are sensible examples by which we may illustrate the manner of it as namely that of the stream of Light that floweth from the candle and filleth the whole house while as the body of the candle it selfe is but in one place 6. And what doth that firy streame or river signify that issued and came forth from the Ancient of days but the extension of the Life and Spirit of Christ as he is the Heavenly Man And as John Rev. 1. describeth him is a wonderfully Great man even that Son of man whom Iohn saw after his ascension in the midst of the golden candlsticks even he that liveth and was dead ver 18. to shew that it was the Man Christ and he had in his right hand seven starâ—â— which are expounded to be the seven Angels or Pastors of the seven churches This showeth it is not his externall person or outward body that is here described for it is impossible to conceive how he can hold a number of men in the right hand of his externall person Therefore by his right hand is signified his power as he is the great Heavenly Man which can wel hold all the men that ever were in the world 7. Also this wonderfull extension of the Spirit of Christ as Man in his Divine body and Seed is most clearly described hy Christ himself Iohn 1 51. Verily verily I say unto you hereafter ye shall see heaven opened and the Angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man This is the Great and Heavenly Man Christ Iesus who is that Ladder which Iacob saw in his vision the top whereof reached unto Heaven and the foot of it reached the Earth But this can not be the externall Person of Christ and therefore it is the Spirit of Christ as he is Man or his Soul that is extended into us here upon Earth in his Heavenly body that he giveth us to feed upon by means of this Heavenly Ladder 8. But when I say the Soul or Spirit of Christ â— Man is extended into us I do not understand the Nephesch of his Soul but the Neschamah or Nischâ—ah even that Divine Spirit of Life that God breathed into Adam and is that which Solomon calls the Candle of the Lord searching all the inward parts of the belly and Iames the Ingrafted Word and Iohn the Word mad flesh or Incarnate Word that dwelleth in us
travell'd into the remotest parts of the world to preach and they alledge they have preached Christ as much as the Presbyterians alledge they preach him at home Xaverius a Papist preached to the Chineses and was at greater pains then any Presbyterian that ever I heard of for they commonly nest themselves at home and enjoy as much bodily ease and pleasure as other men they seldom preach out of their own parishes but I never heard of any of them goe and preach to heathens where the Name of Christ hath not outwardly been mentioned as many in the Popish Church have done Nor will it solve the matter to say that though there have been some holy Preachers in the Popish Church yet they preached many errors with some truths and therefore since the Light is broke up more clearely they are now to be turned away from although in these dark times it might have pleased God to make some of them instruments of salvation to peoples souls which may as yet be where a further manifestation is not given of God For the same answer will as wel serve us against the Presbyterians as it will serve them against the Papists Admitt then that there may be some holy men among the Presbyterian Teachers and that at times the Spirit of God hath breathed through them when they did little notice it and had not that care to attend his breathings and movings so as onely to speak by them and that when the Spirit thus breathed through them they have been instrumentall to the Salvation of some souls yet becaus these men did also preach many errours and did not regard the inward call and movings of the Spirit of God as they should have done but spake more frequently without them then with them and in their own will beginning and ending with the houre-glasse as also becaus they laid too great weight on the bare outward call of men and on meer natural and acquired abiliâ—ys and have affirmed that Grace or piety is not essentiall to a minister of Christ and have not preached the pure Truth as it is in Iesus but for most part grosse errours as namely that Gods Grace is not Vniversal that Immediat Revelation is ceased that we must sin for terme of Life that men may committ murder and adultery and yet be in a justifyed state and perfectly justifyed at that instant 10. I say for these and many others causes we can not owne them as ministers of Christ according to the pure order of a Gospell Ministry and especially because they take hire and wages as much as any they are hirelings Yet we do really make a difference betwixt those who are more tender and conscientious and others and are glad to meet with any such for they are very thin scattered at this day And if we take more paines on such then upon others some times give them a sound thresh it is in love to them and in hope to find corn among them which we expect less to find among the profane whom he calleth lazy lie-byes and idle loyteres and yet such men were the farre greaters part of the Presbyterian Ministry in its most flourishing time SECTION XV. 1. Many unsound and unsavory expressions in S. R. his Epistles 2. Yet he both experienced and declared of Immediat Revelation and the Spirits immediat teachings 3. He confessed there was a gate of finding Christ that he had never lighted upon 4. The Christian Quakers know this gate which is to wait upon him in the shinings of his Divine Light in their hearts being retired unto the same in pure silence 5. Silent wayting proved from many Scriptures 6. An observable confession of S. R. that the Presbyterians have stinted a measure of so many ounce weights upon holynes and no more 7. Some very observable Testimonys out of the book called The fullfilling of the Scripturs highly commended by the Presbyterians to some of the chief and main principles experiences and practices of the people called Quakers 8. A great out-leting of the Spirit in the West of Scotland about the year 1625. 9. Called by the profane rabble the Stewarton Sicknes That caused a strange unusuall motion on the hearers that some were made to fall over in the place and were carryed out 10. The same Life and Power of God and out-letting of his Spirit but more clearly is now among the Christian Quakers 11. Many Presbyterians now joyn with the profane rabble to call these unusuall motions the reall effects of Gods Spirit among us the signs of some diabolicall possession 12. The Author of the Postscript guilty of this impiety 13. Many Presbyterians like the Scribes and Pharisees who profeffed to owne the Spirit of God in Moses and the Prophets and denyed the same Spirit in Christ and the Apostles 14. That glory that sâ—ined forth among them disappeared when they turned persecuters of others 15. An objection answered 16. The Author of the fullfilling of the Scripturs affirmeth that there was an Apostolick Spirit lett out upon the first Reformers which is inconsistent with their doctrine that immediat revelation is â—eased 17. That Robert Bruce had an extraordinary call to the Ministry 18. That he keeped silence for a considerable time before he preached as the Preachers among the Christian Quakers do 19. He had the Spirit of discerning to know when a man preached not by the Spirit of God and when he did which is our experience also 20. The Author confesseth it is something else to be a Minister of Iesus Christ then to be a knowing and eloquent Preacher which is contrary to the Presbyterian doctrine now and according to the doctrine of the Christian Quakers 21. Robert Bruce his Prophecy that the Ministry of Scotland would prove the greatest persecuters that the Gospell â—ad fullfilled 22. A wonderfull influence that Robert Bruce his prayer had not only upon those present but on some absent that heard not his words 23. The said Author confesseth that the Presbyterians are grossely mistaken concerning some Scripture truthes and promises that after shall be made clear This we know fullfilled 24. A loving exhortation to professors 25. He doth acknowledge Immediat Teachings 26. He calls their own prayers many times a peice of invention rather then a matter of earnest with the Lord. 27. He commendeth it in Robert Bruce that he would not goe to preach without the Lord which is contrary to the Presbyterian doctrine in our dayes 28. He commends many things in thâ—se men that Presbyterians now condemn and reproach under the name of Quakerism HAving in my answer to the Postscript refered unto some places in S. R. his Epistles and also unto that other book called the fullfilling of the Scripturs I shall in this last Section cite some passages that do sufficiently answer unto those referrs 1. In my first Section I say that I doe find very many unsound and unsavoury expressions in S. R. his Epistles that the Life and Spirit of Christ in
people even perfectly for no imperfect thing can enter into heaven Again see 1 part Ep. 20. We are fools to be browden and fond of a pawn in the loof of our hand living on trust by faith may wel content us This he speaks as reproving such who seek after spirituall feelings and sensible enjoyments of Christ which is according to his brethrens doctrine that teach We should not seek to live by sense to wit spirituall sense but by faith a grosse and unsound doctrine as if faith and sense spirituall were opposite whereas faith doth always in some measure imply some one spirituall sense or other for unlesse we spiritually heare or feel Christ in some measure we can not believe in him faith cometh by hearing saith the Apostle and is not faith a laying hold on Christ with the hands of our Soul and how can we doe this without all sense or feeling of him in a spirituall way Surely the natural and outward senses are no more necessary for the preservation of the naturall life then the inward and spiritual senses are necessary for the preservation of the Spiritual Life of the Soul Also he hath frequently in his Epistles too airy and frothy expressions no wise beseeming the weight of the matter those expressions relate unto as 1 part Ep. 120. Christ seeâ—eth to leave heaven to say so and his Court and come down to laugh and play with a daft bairne Again 1 part Ep. 91. Will not a Father take his little dated Davie in his armes and carry him over a ditch or a mire Again 1 part Ep. 121. O if I could dote if I may make use of that word in this place as much upon himself as I do upon his love This is a hint of some of these many unworthy unsound and stumbling expressions which are to be â—ound in his Epistles which I had not medled with to discover but becaus many and especially the Publisher do so idolize this book of S. R. his Epistles as if there were none beyond it except the BIBLE 2. In my second Section I say that S. R. in his more pure times both experienced and declared of Immediate Revelation and the Spirits immediate teachings as his Epistles abundantly witnesse also that he plainly declareth he had the counsell and mind of God in some things not to be found in Scripture See for this besides the testimonys I have already cited in the answer these following 1 part Ep. 2. It was not without God 's special direction that the first sentence that ever my mouth uttered to you was that of John 9 39. Again 1 part Ep. 9. It is little to see Christ in a book as men do the World in a card 〈…〉 of Christ by the book and the tongue and no more but to come nigh Christ and hausse him and imbrace him is another thing Again 1 part Ep. 9. O his perfumed face his fair face his lovely and kindly kisses have made me a poor prisoner see there is more to be had of Christ in this Life then I believed we think all is but a little earnest a four-houres a small tasting we have or is to be had in this life which is true compared with the inheritance but yet I know it is more it is the kingdom of God within us Again 2 part Ep. 2. O blessed Soul that can leap over a man and look above a pulpit up to Christ who can preach home to the heart howbeit we are all dead and rotten Again 2 part Ep. 8. And sure I am it is better to be sick providing Christ come to the bed-side and draw by the curtains and say courage I am thy Salvation then to enioy health being lusty and strong and never to be visited of God Again 1 part Ep. 35. But at other times he will be messenger himself and I get the cup of Salvation out of his own hand Again O how sweet is a fresh â—isse from his holy mouth his breathing that goeth before a â—isse upon my poor Soul is sweâ—t and hath no fault but that it is too short But that he â—aith â—hat Christ drinketh to him is a froathy and unâ—avoury expression used by him in that same Epistle And 3 part Ep. 22. anent his transplanting he â—aith what God saith to me in the â—ussinesse I resolve 〈…〉 doe And 1 part Ep. 85. Now and then my silence burneth up my Spiâ—t but Christ hath said Thy stipend is running up with interest in heaven as if thou 〈◊〉 preaching and this from a Kings mouth rejoyceth my heart And 3 part Ep. 37. Christ hath said to me mercy Grace and peace for Marjon 〈◊〉 Again 1 part Ep. 154. We but stand beside Christ we goe not unto him to take our fill of him but if â—e should doe 〈◊〉 things 1. draw the curtains and make bare his holy face and then 2. clear our dim and bleared eyes to see his beauty and glory he should find many lovers This place is remarkable for it holdeth forth both immediat subjective and objective revelation according as the nationall teachers do themselvs define it and indeed his words in all these testimonyes import no less Again 1. part Ep. 201. O that â—e would strick out windowes and fair and great Lights in this old house this fallen down soul and then sett the soul near hand Christ that the rayes and beames of Light and the Soul delighting glances of the face fair God-head might shine in at the windowes and fill the house Again 1. part ep 32. now he is pleased to feast a poor prisoner and to refresh me with joy unspeakeable and glorious so as the Holy Spirit is witness that my sufferings are for Christs truth and God forbid I should deny the â—estimony of the Holy Spirit and make him a false witness Again 1. par ep 120. Lord let me never be a false witness to denâ— that I saw Christ take the pâ—n in his hand and subscribe my writs And part 3. ep 27. In privat on the 17 and 18 of August I got a full answer of my Lord to be a graced minister and chosen arrow hidden in his own quiver but know this assurance is not keaped but by watching and prayer These are but a small part of much more might be cited out of his Epistles as testimonys to immediate revelation and the immediat teachings of the Spirit yea to new revelations not to be found in Scripture and yet as I have above observed after all this he joyned with the assembly at Westminster to cry down all such immediat revelation and to affirme that God had committed his Counsell wholly to writing 3. And although many of those called Presbyterians cry up S. R. as a man of so great experience in the things of God yet I find himself ingenuously confess 1. part ep 46. that there is a gate yet of finding out Christ that he hath never lighted upon and saith he O if I could find it out
4. Now this gate blessed be the Name of the Lord and to his eternall praise we can declare it many thousands in this day do know and by it they find Christ and do enjoy his living presence dayly who is the bridegroome and husband of their souls and this gate is to wait upon him in the shinings of his divine Light in their hearts being retired and gathered unto the same out of all their own thoughts words and works all their own willings and runnings in the self-will all selfish motions desires and inclinations of self in pure silence and stillness of mind waiting to feel his heavenly breathings and movings which do raiâ—e up in us the true desire and prayer that we may find him and enjoy him and as we have sought him by this gate or after this manner we have never missed in some measure more or less to find him 5. This silent waiting to enjoy the presence of the Lord is a mystery and as a sealed book to Professors generally and seemes to have been little or nothing known to this great Seer as the Author of the Postscript doth call him for I find nothing of it in his Epistles and yet it is one of the most needfull and most profitable lessons and instructions for people to be instructed in and the Scripturs Testimony is plain and clear concerning it even of silent waiting Lament cap. 3. 26 27 28. It is good that a man should both hope and quietly or in silence wait for the salvation of the Lord. It is good for a man â—hat he beare the yoke in his youth he sitteth alone and keepeth silence because he hath borne it upon him Psal. 46. 10. Be still or silent and know that I am God Psal. 62. 1. Truly my soul is silent unto God from him cometh my salvation Eccles. 5. 2. Be not 〈◊〉 with thy mouth and let not thine heart be hasty 〈◊〉 utter any thing before the Lord. Zach. 2. 3. Be siâ—ent O all flesh before the Lord. And many more â—cripturs may be brought to prove this so needfull and profitable instruction As also here are manifest â—xamples of this silent waiting in Scripture both together and apart Ezekiell 3 15. The Prophet 〈◊〉 with them of the captivity seven dayes and then 〈◊〉 Word of the Lord came unto him And Esdras sat silent with the people untill the evening sacrifice Esdra 9 3 4 5. And the Prophet Elijah sat in a siâ—ent posture alone upon the top of mount Carmell waiting for the Word of the Lord and the accomplishment thereof casting himself downe upon the earth and putting his face betwixt his knees King 18 42. This is such a posture that if a man should use it in our dayes people would say he were mad or possessed with the Devill such is their ignorance of the way and work of God And again 1 King 19. verse 2. The Lord appeared unto Elijah neither in the wind nor earth-Quake nor fire but in the still or silent small voice to wit that is heard in the stillness or silence of the Soul 6. There is one particular more that I find in S. R. that I cannot omit to take notice of in the same epistle 46. which I have above mentioned either I know not saith he what Christianity is or we have stinted a measure of so many oâ—nce weights and no more upon holynes and there we are at a stay It were good for the Professors to consider this and be convinced of their error whereas they say the holyest Man on earth doth sin dayly in thought word and deed yea every moment and cannot but sin continually Is not this to stint a measure of so many ounce weights or rather of a few grains upon holyness yea altogether to annihilate it For I know not how that can be called holyness which cannot keep the soul one moment from sinning However S. R. although here convinced of this errour yet afterwards did fall foully into it when he joyned with the divines so called at Westmunster in that unchristian assertion that no man by any grace given of God can perfectly keep the commandements of God but doth dayly break them in thought word deed This is a bold presumptuons stinting limiting the power and powerfull grace of God in the hearts of his children without all ground from Scripture yea contrary to it which saith his commandements are not grievous and his yoke is easy and his burden Light 7. Moreover in my fourth Section I referred to some thing related by the Author of The fullfilling of the Scripturs concerning Iohn Welsh Robert Bruce and some others in those dayes which I said will not a little make for the present Testimony of the people cald Quakers Now for proof of this I shall give a few instances out of many more which may be brought out of the said book 8. First The said Author telleth us pag. 416. 2 edition of a very solemne and extraordinary outletting of the Spirit in the West of Scotland about the year 1625. and there after which began in the parish of Stewarton whiles the persecution was hat from the Prelatick party 9. Which by the prophane Rabble of that time was called the Stewarton Sickness and spread through much of that countrey particularly at Irvin through the Ministry of David Dickson of which he writes that few Sabbaths meaning first dayes did passe without some evidently converted and some convincing proofs of the power of God accompanying his Word yea that many were so choaked and taken by the heart that through terrour the Spirit in such a measure convincing them of sin in hearing of the Word they have been made to fall over and thus carryed out of the Church who after proved most solid and lively Christians And says he this great spring-tide of the Gospell was not of a short time but for some years continuance yea thus like a spreading Mooreburne the power of godlyness did advance from one place to another which put a marvellous Lustre on these parts of the country the savour wherof brought many from other parts of the land to see the truth of the same Again he telleth pag. 417. at the Kirk of the shots 20 of June 1630. that there was so convincing an appearance of God and down pouring of the Spirit even in an extraordinary way especially at that sermon Juny 21. the day after their communion with a strange unusuall motion on the hearers who in a great multitude were there conveened of diverse ranks that it was known which he saith he can speake on sure ground near five hundred had at that time a discernible change wrought on them of whom most proved lively Christians afterwards Now that there was a true and reall appearance of God and breaking forth of his power and out letting of his Spirit upon many at that time I veryly believe and my soul hath unity with the testimony hereof and diver other testimonys of
15. 22. If I had not come and spoken unto them they had not had sin but now they have nocloake for their sin But may expect to be numbred amongst the enemys of Gods Work It was the commendation of good Men in all ages that they walked sutably to the dispensation of the Lord in their day and this is the great duty the Lord calls for from his people to follow the Lamb whâ—thersoever he 〈◊〉 this will be their commendation before the Lord as Rev. 14. 4. When the life Light and power of God removeth from one dispensation to another to be alwayes a follower of that which is our duty for it is not to be expected that Moses or David if they were alive now would looke to find that life in their sacrifices and externall rites which they found when they were upon Earth no this is only to be waited for in the spirituall way of the Gospell worship And to come nearer if Cranmer Hooker and Ridly who were Martyrs for the Protestant faith in beareing witness against the Idolatry of the Masse thought it no small mercy to have the use of a common prayer booke in English no doubt in that day might feel life in it yet when the Light of reformation encreased it discovered that to be a limiting of the Spirit of God in Prayer and consequently had in it self a tendency to deaden the heart by remaining in that formality If they were living now the Lord would require of them to seek after a more Spirituall Way of worship where the pure life of Christ was more to be found and felt then in read prayers Even so now when the Lord is poynting forth a more spirituall way which is by following the pure motions of the Spirit of life in an immediat way upon the heart in all religious dutys the Lord will have all his people to owne that way both in practice and profession and they that will reject this or refuse or oppose it He will no less reckon them as his enemys now then these that have been refusers or opposers of his work in former generations A 3 Obstruction is Truth hath been for most part loaded by its opposers with many heavy slaunders calumnys and lyes and traduced with the nick-names of errour Heresy blasphemy and delusion yea called devilisme and what else malice can invent so Pauls religion was called heresy Acts. 24. 14. and Christians were a sect every where spoken against Acts 23. 22. Yea Christ himself was said to have a Devil Ioh. 8. 48 53. And what wonder then that the opposers of Truth in this day speake so of Truth as it is now manifested The Professors thereof are said to deny Jesus Christ that was borne of the virgin Mary where as they have often testifyed they owne no other Christ but him to be the Saviour of the world that was crucifyed at Ierusalem and this we can say in the uprightness of our hearts as in his sight that searches hearts Our opposers say wee deny the Scriptures of Truth whereas we owne all things therein being rightly translated to be the dictate of the Holy Spirit and that they containe all the substantialls of true religion and whatsoever is contrary to them to be but delusion yea we are content to have all poynts of controversy betwixt us and our opposers to be determined by the Scriptures of Truth We are said to deny the Ministry and ordinances of the Gospell whereas we owne all the true and faithfull Ministers that are called of God and that function and are not meerely men-made Ministers that are made to be Ministers in the meere will of men only endued with some measure of natural and acquired parts and feel not the power and vertue of the life of Jesus Christ dwelling in their hearts without any sense of which power and life they can pray and preach But we owne all Spirituall and living preaching and prayer As for the ordinances called Sacraments we own them only according to Scripture sense viz. that Baptisme which is by the Holy Ghost for Iohn Baptised with water but Christs Baptisme is with the Holy Ghost and with fire Math. 3. 11. Act. 1. 4. This is that one baptisme Eph. 4. 5. The Bread and Wine that is Elementary we deny as being but a carnal ordinance which are all repealed at the time of reformation under the Gospell Heb. 9. 10. as all rites are which stand in meats and drinks washings or Baptismes as the Greek hath it But we owne the Communion of Christs body and blood according to Luk. 6. 53. compared with verse 63. Our opposers say we lay the whole stresse of justification and remission of sins upon our own righteousness and we declare we owne no meritorious cause of the remission of sins but the righteousness blood and sufferings of Jesus Christ that was crucified at Ierusalem and as it was done and performed by the Man Christ born of the virgin Mary and yet we profess none are justified but such as are in a measure sanctified and actually cleansed from sin so as none are justified in their sins These and many more of the like slaunders asserted with boldness and impudence by malicious opposers are no small obstruction to many simple-hearted people who are but too ready to take things of this nature upon trust without tryall and proofe especially if the assertors be in any repute for a piece of seriousness as the Scribes and Pharisees high Priests who were in great authority and esteem with the people and thereby did influence their slender followers to preferre Barrabas a murderer and a robber to Christ Iesus A 4 Obstruction is that Truth when it comes first abroad is at severall great disadvantages in the eyes of the world as first it seldom hath the countenance of Civil authority but mostly is persecuted and laws and statutes made in opposition to it this is universally known in all ages and throughout these Nations where it first appeared Secondly it hath the opposition of the Nationall Clergy so called and of the most learned of that sort of men who have the greatest advantages of authority to influence the body of the Nation see Ioh. 9. 22. For the Iews had agreed already that if any men did confess that he was Christ he should he put out of the Synagogue Thirdly Truth being a witness against the abuse and superstitions which have through length of time and long custome been rooted and strengthned so in a Nation that it needs no less the the power of God to extirpate people can hardly admit to hearken to any testimony against these things whether they be personal or national customes see Mark 7. 9. and he said unto them full wel ye reject the commandement of God that ye may keepe your own tradition It 's not an easie thing to forsake old Customes this hath been a cause why men in all ages have stumbled at the simplicity of truth