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so_o creep_v into_o the_o church_n as_o their_o beginning_n can_v not_o be_v know_v since_o the_o apostle_n and_o never_o be_v espy_v till_o they_o be_v universal_o receive_v error_n can_v so_o creep_v into_o the_o church_n and_o prevail_v that_o by_o the_o principle_n of_o christianity_n they_o be_v irreformable_a this_o i_o prove_v because_o error_n be_v irreformable_a by_o the_o principle_n of_o christianity_n when_o whosoever_o undertake_v to_o reform_v they_o by_o the_o principle_n of_o christianity_n be_v to_o be_v condemn_v as_o a_o heretic_n but_o he_o that_o will_v undertake_v to_o reform_v doctrine_n universal_o receive_v by_o the_o church_n oppose_v against_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o therefore_o be_v by_o the_o most_o receive_a principle_n of_o christianity_n by_o christ_n own_o direct_a precept_n to_o be_v account_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n and_o as_o s._n augustine_n say_v to_o dispute_v against_o the_o 118._o whole_a church_n be_v most_o insolent_a madness_n special_o when_o the_o doctrine_n be_v ancient_a without_o any_o know_a beginning_n as_o be_v the_o suppose_a erroneous_a custom_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o then_o the_o undertake_v reformer_n must_v strive_v against_o not_o only_o the_o whole_a present_a church_n but_o also_o the_o whole_a stream_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n time_n out_o of_o mind_n since_o the_o apostle_n et_fw-la quis_fw-la ad_fw-la haec_fw-la idoneus_fw-la who_o be_v able_a to_o begin_v a_o new_a course_n of_o christianity_n and_o to_o overthrow_v that_o doctrine_n which_o be_v universal_o receive_v and_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o any_o tradition_n of_o ancestor_n to_o be_v otherwise_o plant_v in_o the_o world_n but_o by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o through_o the_o efficacy_n of_o innumerable_a miracle_n wherefore_o these_o doctrine_n if_o they_o be_v error_n which_o by_o the_o principle_n of_o christianity_n no_o man_n ought_v to_o go_v about_o to_o reform_v and_o see_v it_o be_v impossible_a that_o there_o shall_v be_v any_o such_o error_n we_o must_v acknowledge_v that_o principle_n of_o s._n augustine_n as_o most_o certain_a that_o doctrine_n receive_v universal_o in_o the_o church_n without_o any_o know_a beginning_n be_v true_o and_o very_o apostolical_a and_o of_o this_o kind_n be_v the_o roman_a from_o which_o protestant_n be_v go_v answer_n the_o point_n which_o you_o labour_v to_o prove_v be_v that_o doctrine_n universal_o receive_v who_o beginning_n be_v not_o report_v by_o monument_n of_o history_n and_o antiquity_n be_v apostolical_a you_o have_v take_v that_o as_o grant_v and_o presuppose_a which_o we_o deny_v to_o wit_n that_o your_o popish_a doctrine_n be_v for_o a_o thousand_o year_n at_o least_o universal_o receive_v but_o this_o be_v a_o beg_n of_o the_o question_n and_o a_o false_a supposition_n wherefore_o i_o may_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o disputation_n pass_v by_o the_o other_o part_n of_o your_o argument_n but_o to_o 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and_o better_a part_n thereof_o but_o error_n irreformeable_a exit_fw-la hypothesi_fw-la that_o be_v presuppose_v the_o ignorance_n and_o malice_n of_o some_o overrule_a prelate_n may_v prevail_v in_o the_o hierarchicall_a church_n which_o be_v vulgar_o repute_v the_o universal_a church_n for_o such_o a_o church_n may_v be_v the_o seat_n of_o antichrist_n and_o while_o he_o reign_v error_n may_v be_v incurable_a jerem._n 51._o 9_o apoc._n 17._o 5._o neither_o do_v the_o presence_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o his_o spirit_n deliver_v the_o malignant_a part_n of_o the_o church_n from_o irreformeable_a error_n but_o only_o the_o live_a member_n of_o his_o mystical_a body_n which_o be_v actuate_v and_o move_v by_o influence_n of_o save_v grace_n john_n 8._o 31_o 32._o rom._n 1._o 28._o 2._o thes._n 2._o 11._o john_n 12._o 40._o the_o assumption_n to_o wit_n all_o error_n universal_o receive_v without_o a_o know_a beginning_n be_v irreformeable_a be_v deny_v for_o although_o the_o error_n of_o the_o pharisee_n be_v universal_o receive_v according_a to_o the_o universality_n of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n in_o those_o day_n without_o such_o a_o know_a beginning_n as_o papist_n require_v we_o to_o exhibit_v concern_v their_o error_n yet_o the_o same_o be_v reformeable_a by_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n and_o by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o prophet_n in_o all_o such_o as_o receive_v the_o love_n of_o the_o truth_n that_o they_o may_v be_v save_v but_o the_o jesuite_n prove_v his_o assumption_n by_o this_o reason_n all_o error_n be_v irreformeable_a when_o they_o which_o seek_v to_o reform_v they_o be_v heretic_n by_o the_o principle_n of_o christianity_n but_o all_o that_o seek_v to_o reform_v error_n universal_o receive_v who_o beginning_n be_v not_o know_v be_v heretic_n by_o the_o principle_n of_o christianity_n ergo_fw-la all_o error_n universal_o receive_v without_o a_o know_a beginning_n be_v irreformeable_a the_o minor_a of_o this_o paralogism_n be_v deny_v and_o 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representative_a veritatis_fw-la be_v not_o by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o saint_n augustine_n to_o be_v account_v a_o
apostle_n creed_n be_v that_o society_n of_o believer_n against_o which_o hell_n gate_n prevail_v not_o final_o either_o by_o heresy_n or_o mortal_a sin_n but_o hell_n gate_n prevail_v against_o pope_n and_o popish_a prelate_n by_o mortal_a sin_n so_o far_o as_o that_o they_o descend_v into_o the_o infernal_a lake_n therefore_o the_o roman_a hierarchicall_a church_n consist_v principal_o of_o pope_n and_o popish_a prelate_n be_v not_o the_o holy_a catholic_a church_n in_o the_o creed_n for_o that_o church_n have_v remission_n of_o sin_n and_o life_n eternal_a and_o pass_v not_o into_o hell_n joh._n 10.28_o august_n d._n doctr._n christ._n li._n 3._o ca._n 32._o jesuit_fw-la the_o church_n whereof_o christ_n say_v math._n 28.20_o i_o be_o always_o with_o you_o to_o the_o consummation_n of_o the_o world_n be_v the_o church_n of_o the_o creed_n or_o the_o church_n which_o to_o forsake_v be_v damnable_a for_o the_o church_n wherewith_o christ_n still_o abide_v not_o according_a to_o corporal_a and_o visible_a presence_n but_o by_o his_o spirit_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n whereof_o he_o be_v head_n into_o which_o he_o infuse_v the_o life_n of_o grace_n and_o consequent_o he_o that_o forsake_v this_o church_n forsake_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n the_o head_n thereof_o and_o can_v live_v by_o his_o spirit_n but_o be_v in_o a_o dead_a and_o damnable_a estate_n as_o a_o member_n cut_v off_o and_o separate_v 16._o from_o a_o live_a body_n as_o s._n augustine_n long_o ago_o note_v the_o catholic_a church_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n whereof_o he_o be_v head_n out_o of_o this_o body_n the_o holy_a ghost_n quicken_v no_o man_n now_o the_o church_n whereof_o christ_n say_v i_o be_o always_o with_o you_o to_o the_o consummation_n of_o the_o world_n be_v not_o the_o church_n invisible_a of_o only_a the_o elect_n but_o a_o visible_a church_n derive_v by_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n therefore_o he_o that_o forsake_v this_o church_n derive_v by_o succession_n 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general_n contain_v all_o faithful_a and_o just_a person_n from_o abel_n 10._o etc._n etc._n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o creed_n second_o some_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o the_o creed_n be_v always_o visible_a in_o the_o world_n sometime_o in_o a_o ample_a sometime_o in_o a_o small_a number_n of_o professor_n also_o the_o visibilitie_n thereof_o be_v at_o sometime_o illustrious_a and_o notorious_a and_o at_o other_o time_n it_o be_v obscure_a according_a to_o the_o state_n of_o persecution_n possunt_fw-la three_o to_o forsake_v the_o true_a church_n in_o the_o main_a and_o primarie_a article_n of_o faith_n or_o by_o any_o wilful_a infidelity_n be_v damnable_a and_o all_o people_n which_o desire_n salvation_n must_v actual_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a or_o voto_fw-la in_o case_n of_o necessity_n conjoin_v themselves_o to_o some_o part_n of_o the_o orthodoxal_a catholic_a church_n 7.50.61_o but_o our_o saviour_n promise_v to_o no_o one_o visible_a sea_n or_o church_n continue_v after_o the_o apostle_n by_o succession_n of_o bishop_n absolute_a immunity_n from_o all_o error_n and_o infallibility_n of_o verity_n but_o only_o presentiall_a assistance_n and_o protection_n of_o grace_n sufficient_a for_o the_o salvation_n of_o his_o people_n upon_o condition_n to_o wit_n when_o the_o say_v pastor_n teach_v and_o observe_v that_o which_o he_o command_v and_o continue_v in_o the_o right_a use_n of_o those_o mean_n which_o he_o have_v depose_v among_o they_o joh._n 8.31_o 32._o rom._n 11._o 22._o read_v before_o in_o this_o treatise_n pag._n 94.99_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n 16._o object_v by_o the_o adversary_n which_o be_v that_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n whereof_o he_o be_v head_n and_o that_o out_o of_o this_o body_n the_o holy_a ghost_n quicken_v no_o man_n make_v altogether_o against_o himself_o for_o none_o be_v vital_a member_n of_o christ_n mystical_a body_n but_o just_a and_o holy_a person_n and_o it_o be_v the_o same_o father_n doctrine_n 32._o impij_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la revera_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la wicked_a person_n be_v not_o in_o deed_n and_o verity_n christ_n body_n and_o in_o another_o place_n in_o corpore_fw-la christi_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quoniam_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la christus_fw-la habere_fw-la membra_fw-la damnata_fw-la cedunt_fw-la they_o be_v not_o in_o christ_n body_n which_o be_v the_o church_n because_o christ_n can_v have_v damnable_a member_n and_o bernard_n 1._o say_v manifestum_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la caput_fw-la hypochritae_fw-la christum_fw-la it_o be_v evident_a that_o christ_n be_v not_o the_o head_n of_o a_o hypochrite_n but_o the_o visible_a ruler_n of_o the_o popish_a church_n have_v many_o time_n be_v as_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o report_v not_o only_o hypochrite_v but_o apparent_o monstrous_a and_o damnable_a sinner_n 111.112.113_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o the_o 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ergo_fw-la romish_n prelate_n be_v not_o the_o holy_a catholic_a church_n of_o the_o creed_n out_o of_o which_o there_o be_v no_o salvation_n argument_n 2._o out_o of_o the_o holy_a catholic_a church_n of_o the_o creed_n there_o be_v no_o salvation_n 1.2_o out_o of_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n there_o have_v be_v and_o be_v salvation_n ergo_fw-la the_o present_a roman_a church_n be_v not_o the_o holy_a catholic_a church_n of_o the_o creed_n and_o thus_o the_o obiector_n have_v gain_v nothing_o by_o accuse_v our_o church_n of_o fundamental_a error_n and_o his_o nine_o accusation_n be_v prove_v to_o be_v so_o many_o calumniation_n and_o we_o neither_o err_v fundamental_o in_o any_o main_a article_n nor_o yet_o pertinacious_o or_o malicious_o against_o any_o other_o christian_a verity_n for_o although_o while_o we_o live_v in_o the_o world_n tenebras_fw-la huius_fw-la mortalitatis_fw-la circumferimus_fw-la 237._o as_o s._n augustine_n speak_v we_o carry_v about_o we_o 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