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A86117	Collonel James Hays speech to the Parlament upon the debate concerning toleration. As it was taken by Anonimus a Member of the House, and sent to the press with this epigram on the author. [dagger] Fælix fifa suis cælebrata Catonibus eheu! clodius in miseros furit, & Catalina Britannos. [dagger] Henderson ...	Carlisle, James Hay, Earl of, ca. 1612-1660.; Brummet, Christoph.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons.	1655 (1655)	Wing H1201; Thomason E828_4; ESTC R202584	15,186	32

COLLONEL JAMES HAYS SPEECH TO THE PARLAMENT Upon the Debate concerning TOLERATION As it was taken by Anonimus A Member of the House and sent to the Press with this EPIGRAM on the Author † 〈…〉 Faelix fifa suis caelebrata Catonibus Eheu Clodius in miseros furit Catalina Britannos Printed in the Year 1655. Coll JAMES HAYS Speech to the Parlament upon the Debate concerning TOLERATION Mr. Speaker SOlomon hath a notable advertisement Prov 21.23 Who keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles and yet my spirit whispers me in the ear that whosoever at this time keepeth his mouth involveth his soul in trouble To me the Declaration of Jesus appeareth on the wall Mat 10.33 Whosoever denieth me before men him will I deny before my father which is in Heaven Sir the ties of God are upon me for my self and the people for whom I serve here is not the Lords prerogative are not the privilidges of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ call'd now in question if I should hold my peace how might my silence be interpreted suffer me therefore Sir in all submission to speak to the matter of your present Debate which in it self is of so high concernment and will undoubtedly p●ove of that consequence to this Common-wealth that much of the future peace and happines of the State will depend upon it There hath been much arguing these dayes bygone concerning a general Toleration and liberty of Conscience Sir before you can happily discern either way in this question I suppose you 'l find it necessary to turn your eye toward Religion upon which this Toleration Indulgence and Liberty doth reflect Religion Sir is that which ties the mind of Man to God it is that requires the Princes of the earth to rule in meekness Justice and sobriety it 's that commands the subject to obey with love and alacrity and that unites the minds of men amongst themselves Hence the unity of bodies the combining in one politique society from whence the unity of fortunes the mind ruling the body and the body the interest and goods which three are the only props and pillars of all States and Incorporations in the world It 's a true aphorisme Quibus non unio voluntatum non potest esse una habitatio for as the soul rules over the body natural by authority and proper dominion and the spirit by deputation so doeth Religion the soul of the body politique rule over the State so absolutely that if it be in distemper the spirit wil doubtless be out of frame and the body in danger A sick soul sir will disorder the soundest spirit the strongest body how often hath it made the feet to precipice the bulk how often the hands to cut the throat is it so Sir then what shall become of that State where Religion is misframed O! shall not the Rulers rage and the people miscarry I beseech you look narrowly to this lest by granting too large a Toleration you dishonour God and disorder the State I am far from the opinion of those who ascribe unto themselves the dispensation and interpretation of the Law converting their own wil into a Law allowing the world no immediat warrant for their faith but their simple authority by these means changing the company of rationall beleevers into a hive of hooded smatterers I do also much differ in point of judgment from these who misregarding all Law and Ecclesiastick constitution and practises strive to turne the bounded christian the houshold of faith into a drove of Rambling untied untoward Enthusiasts Mistake me not Sir I do not reflect in the least upon any sober-minded christian whom in my soul I love and honor with my heart No Sir of those I mean of whom it may be said I fear they profess God with their mouths but live without him in the world That you may the better decide in this matter and perfectly discern both what to tolerate and what to cast out I would have you keep a mids betwixt these two extreams First Sir let the Law and prior Ecclesiastick practises grounded on that Law be your Rule otherwise you will turn all into Anarchie again and live at random assure your self Si terminos a Deo naturae constitutos transiveris qued ultra est infinitum est No man can tel what you 'l not do for you know that Dato uno absurdo infinita sequntur and I fear if you overleap the Law and practise of the Church there wil be nothing after but Scelus scelere vindicatum One crime made good by another Secondly Sir I would have you to try the truth of that Law the verity of these practises these I humbly conceive will be your best guides through this desert of Toleration Over all you wil find their was one uniformity in Religion no such Toleration as is here aimed at no liberty no indulgence as to fundamentals wil you consult the unwritten Divine and natural Law it wil tel you it was so ab initio Advise with the written Law the Scriptures the Law of Nations and they 'l shew you it was commanded to be so Enquire at Reason and she wil assure you it ought to be so Look into the practises of the purest primest ecclesiastick soeieties and they 'l declare it was so All which being found I cannot conceive why it ought not to be so stil amongst you and the rather because there is nothing more certain then all Ecclesiastick societies were bounded by Laws and who is so ignorant as not to know or so impudent as to deny that every Law hath a double facultie namely one suasorie another obligatorie By the first without the last it differeth nothing from a Counsel It may as a vertue perswade but cannot as a duty oblige It is the last the obligatorie part that maketh the law it is the form of the law and gives it being and he who affirmitively wil declare such a thing to be a Law and negatively say that law hath no compulsorie power and that no man shall be tied to obedience by penalties or otherwise he must pardon me to tel him he makes no Law at all I speak this for you Sir who hath declared the true Christian Protestant reformed Religion to be the profession of England If you shall on the other part declare that none shall be compelled thereto by penalties or otherwise but that all shall be protected in the exercise of their Religion though differing in judgment from the publick profession In this case I desire to know what you have done I say you have made no law for that profession but on the contrary a Law against it for your negative doth closely stifle your affirmative and makes that you aimed at for a law to be of no force but leaves all to a graceless libertie For the clearing of all Sir I conceive it will be necessary to take a view of the generall state of the Church

first before you come unto the particular Churches as it is set down in the Revelation of Saint John which was a vision of the Church As it was from the beginning and shall continue to the end of the world How sweet is it to observe the order of God in his wil toward the Church as it pleased him to reveal it to Saint John where you find 1. Seals 2. Trumpets 3. Vials with us Churches Laws Penalties seven Seals opened seven Trumpets blown seven Vials powred forth To each Church called God gives and proclaims the law to the law proclaimed he appends the Anathema ordains the penalties denounces Judgment on the Rebellious And this you wil find verified in the particular survey of the several Churches in order The first whereof is the Archetypical Church the Church of Angels God Sir being unum verum bonum the only true Good and the nature of good being Esse sui diffusivum God in the contemplation of his own goodness did beget in himself a desire to diffuse it and make it communicable and practicable which could not be without creatures Therefore did he create the Archetyp wherin the shapes and Ideas of all things were breathed and there and then did he send forth the spotles intelligences who doth inhabite that infinite vacuity which is filled with the Majesty of God whose Religion and work it is to sing praise honor and glory to the Jasper on the Throne with the rain-bow about him Thus Sir was the first seal opened the first mystery revealed the first Church called by the Lamb even the Bereshith rhe principium principians the word and wisdom of the Father by whom al things were made The characters of which Church were a white horse a Crown and bow The Ensigns of Candor Victory and triumph So was it and shal continue a pure victorious triumphant Church Then was the first Trumpet blown the first Viall powred out the first Law proclaimed the Anathema appended the first vengeance denounced against the Rebels the authors of division the fountain of Toleration In the constitution of this Church Sir there was but one God known by the one great ineffable Name 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 One Sephiroth one Emanation one great power one company of Angels of one mind thinking the same and singing the like all things in common amongst them none knowing more than other to none a more ful Vision of God than the rest no place or possession peculiar to any this is the nature of Angels Sir thus it was thus it is and thus it shall bee with these blessed spirits for ever and ever .. The name of toleration was not known here heresie a stranger to this happy society til Lucifer and his tender Conscience brake forth There is a proverb which in all Ages of the Church hath been found of universal truth namely that God had never a Church but the Devill had a Chappel in some corner thereof Sir all Religion hath its superstition all Doctrine its heresie and here it did begin even in this the purest and perfectest Church that ever was or shal be The Devil emulous of the glory and greatness of God would needs set up his own Image erect a congregation of his own by dividing that blessed unity into two Right wrong truth and falsehood But what came of it Sir was he tolerated was he suffered to go so No the spirit of unity and truth went out against him with crown and bow and conquering did conquer the prince of Darkness cast him out of the congregation deprived him the happiness of Heaven and thurst him down to Hel and the earth to have his dominion amongst the sons of Men hence that Church purchased and shall while the world lasts enjoy the name of Triumphant By this punishment God did not only condemn toleration assert the truth the unity of Worship the entirenes of Religion clearly holding forth that he would admit of no copartner in the Worship and praises of the Angels but also did declare the detestable nature of heresie and how unsupportable a thing it was and thus did he by the power of his own Councel which cannot etr reunite the Church again The second Church was the Paternal church that whereof Adam under God was Lord and High Priest In the constitution of this church you 'l find there was but One God one man one commandment one Religion one way of Worshipping that God one treasure and common fortune for all one body to enjoy that fortune one mind in that body Adam knew none above God loved none as God served none but God feared none besides God There was no heresie in Doctrine here no schism in discipline Adam stood in need of none to teach him and as few to enforce him to obey All was one Sir an universal Oneness this was the first and great model amongst men Thus was the second Seal opened the second Mystery revealed the second Church called the Law proclaimed Eat not of the Tree of knowledg c. Gen 2.17 The Anathema appended The day thou eatest thou shalt surely dye comparatively like in every thing to the pattern the Archetypicall Church onely differing in the prophetical characters the red horse and the sword the badges of blood war and man-slaughter signifying that this Church should be liable to many and great temptations and the spirit of the times much addicted to blood cruelty and revenge All things here were answerable to the pattern til the appearing of Satan and founding of heresie by him Then were the characters of this Seal made manifest and read in Mundo The pure perfect and Trinial unitie the prop and pillar of all societies rent asunder and all turned to confusion Nothing now but blood and War God against man and man against God Father against Son and Brother against Brother and the Devil against all and all for Religions sake Adam was one and the Devil made two and that was Heresie God had a Temple and now begins Satan to have a Synagogue God had his Priest and the Devil his Chaplain Abel of one mind Cain of another Cain draws the sword Abel is therewith killed Thus the unity of mind the unity of bodies rent in two Isaac had one portion and Ishmael had another Isaac the promise Ishmael what he could gain his hand against all and all against him Thus came the happy and harmless unity of fortune into the community of possession to be converted into the miserable and turbulent Law of property Jacob was of one mind Esau of another he chose the birth-right even Sacrum sacerdotii Sir Esaw somwhat else Mammon Dominium ventriculi the possessions of this Earth the things of this world Nay look over the whole Paternal time even from Adam to Moses you l find nothing but heresie in doctrine and schism and division in the matter of worship The impression of the red horse seconded with War blood and wounds The miserable effects of

there he made good his promise For in the Mount he gave him a full sight of the Archetype and he commands him to build this house according to all that he saw in the Mount I do esteem it high arrogancy to think that the smallest pin thereof wanted some notable symbole or other which were it suitable for this time and this place I should presume to evince by undeniable arguments now I shall only speak so far as relates to the present purpose now in hand Seldome fals it out that a skilful master builder contrives for his own house rooms which are superfluous And can we be bold to think that the Omnipotent God of infinite wisdom who framed all hath put any thing unto this artifice of his without a reason In this Tabernacle it is observable that it was al divided into three 1 Structure 2ly Apparate 3ly Salva guarda or the Temple militia Again the structure also into three 1 Sanctum sanctorum 2 The room for the Altar and sacificing Levites 3 The porch of the Temple or the Court of the Congregation Observe that the first was made of Gold the second of Shittim wood and the third of courser materials yet In the Apparat also three 1. The Ark the mercy seat and cherubims for the first room 2 The Altar the candlesticks the table for the second 3 Hangings pillars sockets c. for the third Observe Sir that the first room and furniture was neither seen nor frequented by the people but by the high Priest alone and that once a year The second room was seen but not frequented by the people Sir it was the service of the Priests to offer daily sacrifice there The third room Sir was both seen frequented by the people daily By the first is signified as to us the plentifull mysteries of Jesus Christ who is both Arca and Arcus the Ark and the Rainbow The mercy seat and cherubims being the word in the two Testaments betwixt which God is pleased to reveale himself to the world These Sir are secretiora sacra which must not be medled with must not be called into question None are allowed none are suffered to doubt of the Deity the Unity in Trinity the Incarnation Birth Life Transfiguration Death Resurrection Ascension and glorification of the Word these with severall others are such as may not be denied upon any account whatsoever By the second room and things therin are signified the holy Ordinances of Jesus Christ The administration of the word and Sacraments which may be seen but not frequented by the people they are to look on them with a reverend esteem It is the charge of the Priests to be here and to dispense them to the people these are the Jewels of the Gospel which though the people do often see and taste yet must they not be trampled upon by the Canaile The third room and things therein were yet more course daily seen daily frequented by the people such are the motions of the spirit in our hearts flowing on us by frequenting the word and sacraments Here is a proper place a peculiar way of exercise allotted for those who are thus inspired the place The Porch of the Temple The Subject of their operation the Congregation the time Always So that sublimate inspired Laicks are to exercise their gift upon all men at all times by a good and exemplary life and conversation And not at first hand to invade the Priests charge the holy things of the Altar to which they are and ought to be but strangers And if they will at it brevi manu upon pretence of toleration and liberty to tender Consciences then let them remember what was done to Saul for sacrificing in Samuels absence 1 Sam 13.14 Was not his Kingdome torn from him was Saul a King thus dealt with what think you then shal become of A All the mention that I find in the Tabernacle of Toleration is And the stranger that comes nigh shal surely dye The third thing I mentioned of the Tabernacle was the Salva guarda the Militia and that you have also in three 1. Secular guards the bands of Juda Ruben Issachar Gad c. 2ly Spiritual guards the squadrons of the Gershonits Cohathites and Merarits 3ly The authority of both Moses and Aaron within all Thus was the Tabernacle guarded and the stranger that came nigh was to dye what think you had become of that people and that house if those guards Moses and Aaron had left their posts and laied the holy tabernacle open to the wild boars the uncircumcised Nations In summ Sir this Tabernacle was a type of the harmony of Gods works in nature and of his spirit in the Church You see there was in it a great variety of many pieces whereof every one was indented in another The whole standing in one conjunction You are the boords whereof the mystical tabernacle is framed Heb. 8.2 This is that wherof Isaiah did prophecy Isa 33.20 Thine eyes shall see Jerusalem a tabernacle which never shal be removed And whosoever is disjoynted he canot be within the tabernacle We read Numb 19.15 of Vessels which if they lay open or uncovered were to be accounted unclean You are the Vessels of the holy and heavenly temple framed by the hand of the omnipotent potter whereof St. Paul 2 Tim. 2.20 saith Alia vasa in honorem alia in contumeliam If you be not close and united among your selves but shaken asunder into pieces you are the contumelious vessels of dishonour Were it not to surprise your time Sir I could evidence much of the mind of God against Toleration manifested by his Judgments upon the usurpers of liberty the vilipenders of the Law in the days of Moses Joshua Judges Kings Prophets of Israel Why should I mention the abomination of God the calf of Israel the rebellion of Core the avarice of Achan The Apostacy of the new Generation of Israel after Joshua and the Elders serving Baal and Ashtaroth Their worshipping the Gods of Syria Zidon and Moab Sauls sacrificing in absence of Samuel Uzziah his touching the Ark Ahabs covenant with Benhadad The building of Altars erecting of groves and high places by the wicked Kings of Israel upon all whom their iniquity did heavily fall and the wrath of God eminently appear It is singularly remarkable Sir that the remnant of Israel who after the death of Gedaliah at Mispah went into Aegypt and did rebel against Ieremiah to worship the Hoast of Heaven That they studied to convince him with reason and that by two arguments 1. When we did so before we had bread to eat 2ly and our Heads did it with us that is our Rulers and leaders Jer 44 17. But neither reason nor authority can satisfie for Jer v 20 21 22 23 confesseth that it was so but replies and did not God meet with you he did for is not Aegypts destruction clearly prophecied for their sake ch 46. What proved liberty here Sir Ilias

it is said And the multitude of beleivers were of one heart one mind one Soule neither didany man say what he had was his own all things weie commond and the Apostle Paul assures the Romans 12.5 that being many they were one bedy in Christ and every one Members one of another He exhorts the Corinthians in that 2. Ep. 13.11 to be of one mind and live in peace and love and finally he telleth the Ephes 4.4.56 That there is one body and one Spirit one Lord one faith one Baptisme one God and Father of all In all their Councells also they were unanimous for it was for the sake of unitie they were called We must not think that they did call Councells to question their own Religion No it was prorenata ever upon the occasion of some Schisme some heresie as you will find in all their Councells where their work was to cleare truths and condemne errors without regard to Toleration In the beeleving and obeying of these truths to which there was ever an Anathema appended witness Paul 1 Cor. 16.22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus let him be Anathema Maranatha also Gal. 1.8 If I or an Angel from Heaven Preach any other Gospel unto you let him be accursed In all the apostles Canons you 'l ever find a Deponatur for the Clergy a Segregetur for the seculars All men equally tied to the rule without any exception or Latitude at all The first Councils they kept was at Jerusalem the 34 year of our Lord on the occasion of Electing Matthias to serve in Lieu of Judas the Heretick and high Priest of Satan Act. 1. where it is worthy observation that before Matthias was Elected the entire nubmer made up Peter sheweth the occasion of their meeting to be the fulfilling and uniting the Apostolical number the supplying of Juda's charge And next he pronounces an Anathema of the Charge a sad one indeed Let his habitation be desolate This smels nothing of Toleration The second Council was at Jerusalem anno 34 before the death of Steven upon occasion of a murmuring amongst the Grecians against the Hebrews because their Widdows were neglected Act 6. The third Council you 'l find Act 15. the cause was dissention about Circumcision The fourth Councel is Act 21. Anent the permission of legal things for a time In these two last there was somthing might seem to be like to Toleration for in the third the Gentiles are exempted from the burden of the Law by the fourth the Jews are allowed the exercise therof But Consider Sir first that these things purifying washing shaving were in themselves no sin at all In themselves I say for if otherwise they had been surely Paul had neither tolerated nor used them sin being condemned even in Casu necessitatis There being no excuse able to wash away the guilt of sin 2ly Things in themselves indifferent cannot be used at all times without sin For it is one thing to tolerate somethings in Ecclesia constituenda another in Ecclesia constituta It may be in the one expedient in the other altogether unlawfull which flows from the respective consequences of either Whether the like necessity does press you now which urged the Apostles then you best know for my part I doubt of it And were it so Yet can I find no warrant in all the Scriptures to blaspheme Gods Name And I am perswaded the Toleration now aimed at will tend to that in the highest degree What madness is it that men will be content to be bound up from acting or speaking against the supream Magistrate or the State under no less pain than Treason And who so transgresseth is hailed to the stake And yet will they strugle to unwreath themselves from the yoak of Christ and under the notion of tender Consciences must needs be tolerated yea why say I tolerated warranted by a Law to rebell against God and his Son Jesus Christ if they please Would you but enquire at the four great Counsels universally received by all Namely that of Nice in anno 323. Consisting of 300 Bishops against the Arrians and Quadradecimals That of Constance against the Macedonian Heresie That of Ephesus against the Nestorian Heresie and that of Chalcedon against the Eutychean heresie Enquire I say at these and you shall find there was nothing amongst them like Toleration Their care and practice was the clearing and asserting of truth and condemning of Error Do not you think Sir but these same errors or worse are amongst you which were amongst them at that time Is there none think you Sir in England who will say with Arrius Dei filius aliquando erat aliquando non erat None who with Macedonius holds that Spiritus sanctus nihil ad patris filii divinitatem gloriam pertinet None who maintaineth Filium esse 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 non 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 similem non ejusdem essentiae None think you who with Nestorius divides the natures of God and call-leth the Virgin Mary 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 As if she had brought forth Christ as man only not as God and man Is it not possible to find one who 'l say Christus non sub carnis veritate sed figura in terris laborabat Assure your self Sir there are thousands of this nature amongst you and worse if worse may be Nay what say I may be there wants not who deny that they hold any thing of God or his Son either they knowing neither and denying both acknowledging nothing above themselves in dignity I mean of Essence In place they may and yet with a grudg I verily believe Loose the bonds and break the curb of Religion and cherish such impious vermine as this land swarms with and you shall see what will become of your State in the end when it will be too late to repent Seeing therefore you have the same Enemies In all Humility I advise that you use the same weapons against them which they did with so much and so good sucecss otherwise shew us a better way how to overthrow this monstrous Hydra I pray you Sir the sweet and gentle voice of Syon the peaceful ayr of the Gospel The faith of Jesus and the principles of Christian Religion are they not as dear to us the Children of Light as the dictates of Nature were to the Sons of Adam As pretious to the Adopted Gentile as the fearful voîce of Mount Sinay the Thundring Trumpet the lingring works and uncertain Ceremonies of the Law were to the chosen Israel Let me exhort you therefore Sir you who sits in the chaire of Moses to take to hart the building of the sanctuarie Remember that so soone as the people were delivered from the bondage of Egypt the Tabernacle was provided for Exod 25. No sooner had David rest from his enemies but he intended the building of a house to God 2. Sam. 7.1 And amongst the first and greatest of the miracles of Christ was the purgeing of the temple the subduing of the enemies and abuses thereof Remember that super hanc potram even according to all that you have seen in the Mount after the modell of Sion must you build your house otherwise if the storme blow your house will fall But you 'l happily reply that you have done that already in passing a Vote on the 35 Article and declaring the Christian Religion to be the profession of England A good beginning I confess a fair frontispiece indeed But beware that it prove not like the Aegyptian Temples brave stately buildings to look upon but within nothing but the Images of Doggs Catts Crocodiles and unclean Beasts I advise you Sir to provide for this House and furnish it according to all that I have told you The kindliest guest that ever came into a house is the Landlord himself If you do it not Sir be sure your Enemies will do it for you But what say I do it I fear they have done done it already UP therefore and call to mind that Christ did with zeal and passion if any may be attributed to him purge the Temple brake down the the tables and cast out the buyers and sellars Call your Brother Aaron whose mouth the ord hath filled with Eloquence and his heart with understanding you with him and he with you scourge out the unapparalled guests with the cords of the spiritual sword and civil execution Be not ashamed to assert the truth nor afraid to condemn errors And then you 'l know both what to Tolerate and whom to compel And this is my humble motion FINIS