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Two disputations of original sin I. of original sin as from Adam, II. of original sin as from our neerer parents : written long ago for a more private use, and now published (with a preface) upon the invitation of Dr. T. Tullie / by Richard Baxter.
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Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.
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which_o it_o have_v not_o go_v adam_n can_v not_o convey_v to_o cain_n or_o abel_n by_o generation_n a_o nature_n that_o be_v innocent_a and_o holy_a when_o he_o have_v none_o but_o a_o guilty_a sinful_a nature_n himself_o as_o when_o adam_n have_v sin_v each_o part_n of_o his_o body_n do_v bear_v its_o part_n in_o the_o guilt_n and_o if_o a_o leg_n or_o a_o arm_n have_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o he_o that_o cut_v off_o will_v not_o make_v it_o become_v innocent_a but_o at_o the_o resurrection_n it_o shall_v bear_v its_o share_n of_o penalty_n so_o the_o embryo_n and_o the_o seed_n blood_n and_o spirit_n that_o cause_v it_o be_v as_o real_a part_n of_o the_o parent_n once_o as_o a_o leg_n or_o arm_n and_o when_o they_o be_v part_n they_o can_v not_o be_v innocent_a otherwise_o you_o may_v as_o well_o say_v that_o the_o hand_n or_o foot_n be_v innocent_a and_o go_v they_o can_v not_o mere_o by_o birth_n become_v innocent_a it_o be_v not_o the_o separation_n of_o the_o infant_n from_o the_o mother_n that_o can_v put_v away_o the_o guilt_n that_o once_o it_o have_v if_o any_o say_v that_o a_o leg_n or_o arm_n themselves_o have_v no_o sin_n or_o guilt_n but_o all_o be_v in_o the_o will_n they_o must_v then_o make_v the_o body_n to_o be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o man_n and_o must_v deny_v its_o pain_n and_o its_o resurrection_n to_o everlasting_a pain_n or_o joy_n it_o be_v grant_v that_o the_o will_n be_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a seat_n of_o moral_a good_a or_o evil_n but_o from_o thence_o the_o whole_a man_n do_v participate_v thereof_o and_o go_v it_o be_v the_o man_n that_o be_v condemn_v or_o justify_v punish_v or_o reward_v and_o not_o the_o will_v only_o obj._n but_o the_o soul_n be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o parent_n though_o the_o body_n be_v no_o nor_o the_o body_n neither_o for_o it_o be_v in_o a_o continual_a flux_n and_o we_o have_v not_o the_o same_o body_n at_o seven_o year_n old_a which_o we_o receive_v from_o our_o parent_n answ_n 1._o this_o argument_n as_o to_o the_o body_n be_v it_o by_o which_o our_o novel_a infidel_n do_v think_v to_o reason_v we_o out_o of_o the_o belief_n and_o hope_n of_o a_o resurrection_n of_o these_o same_o numerical_a body_n and_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n you_o may_v as_o effectual_o prove_v that_o the_o body_n that_o commit_v murder_n or_o adultery_n this_o year_n and_o die_v seven_o year_n after_o shall_v not_o be_v condemn_v or_o punish_v for_o it_o because_o it_o be_v not_o the_o same_o body_n that_o commit_v the_o sin_n but_o this_o ingenious_a folly_n will_v save_v none_o from_o punishment_n nor_o prove_v they_o guiltless_a of_o original_a sin_n so_o much_o be_v permanent_a as_o do_v essential_o constitute_v and_o identify_v the_o body_n and_o for_o the_o soul_n 1._o it_o be_v certain_a that_o it_o be_v essential_a to_o the_o man_n and_o certain_a that_o man_n beget_v a_o man_n and_o go_v certain_a that_o man_n beget_v the_o soul_n and_o though_o it_o be_v not_o by_o partition_n of_o the_o parent_n soul_n yet_o be_v it_o a_o true_a generation_n and_o go_v the_o man_n beget_v can_v be_v no_o better_o than_o he_o that_o beget_v obj._n if_o you_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v ex_fw-la traduce_v you_o will_v make_v it_o material_a and_o so_o mortal_a and_o a_o compound_n of_o two_o communicate_v soul_n conjoin_v viz._n the_o father_n and_o the_o mother_n etc._n etc._n answ_n if_o by_o materia_fw-la be_v mean_v substantia_fw-la quae_fw-la potentia_fw-la corpus_fw-la est_fw-la or_o substantia_fw-la incompleta_fw-la in_o potentia_fw-la ad_fw-la omnes_fw-la formas_fw-la which_o be_v aristotle_n materia_fw-la prima_fw-la or_o if_o any_o element_n or_o any_o body_n be_v hereby_o mean_v so_o we_o deny_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v material_a or_o that_o it_o be_v hence_o infer_v to_o be_v such_o but_o if_o material_a be_v extend_v as_o far_o as_o substantial_a or_o so_o far_o as_o to_o comprehend_v spirit_n improper_o than_o it_o be_v grant_v on_o both_o side_n that_o the_o soul_n be_v material_a but_o suppose_v it_o take_v in_o the_o usual_a sense_n i_o answer_v that_o god_n can_v cause_v spiritual_a substance_n to_o propagate_v their_o kind_n and_o go_v such_o propagation_n prove_v neither_o their_o materiality_n or_o mortality_n no_o more_o than_o the_o creation_n of_o the_o first_o animal_n prove_v their_o immortality_n nor_o be_v it_o any_o inconvenience_n to_o grant_v that_o two_o soul_n do_v join_v in_o the_o communicative_a generation_n of_o a_o three_o as_o long_o as_o it_o be_v not_o by_o partition_n or_o deperdition_n of_o any_o of_o their_o substance_n no_o more_o than_o that_o two_o candle_n conjoin_v shall_v light_v a_o three_o but_o the_o large_a handle_n of_o this_o will_v require_v more_o time_n and_o word_n than_o we_o shall_v now_o spare_v i_o refer_v the_o reader_n therefore_o to_o those_o that_o have_v handle_v this_o subject_n on_o purpose_n and_o particular_o to_o micraelius_n in_o his_o ethnophronius_n it_o be_v not_o a_o traduction_n e_fw-la potentia_fw-la materiae_fw-la that_o we_o maintain_v the_o materiale_a seminis_fw-la be_v but_o as_o the_o oil_n to_o the_o flame_n to_o which_o the_o soul_n be_v conjunct_a the_o seman_n contain_v quid_fw-la immateriale_a the_o soul_n be_v in_o it_o not_o only_o in_o potentia_fw-la but_o in_o actu_fw-la as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o leg_n or_o arm_n of_o a_o man_n if_o you_o object_v that_o then_o the_o soul_n be_v divide_v and_o part_n of_o it_o die_v quum_fw-la semen_fw-mi ejicitur_fw-la &_o moritur_fw-la i_o answer_v not_o so_o no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v divide_v when_o a_o man_n be_v behead_v or_o die_v when_o a_o leg_n or_o arm_n die_v that_o be_v cut_v off_o in_o brief_a we_o must_v not_o argue_v ab_fw-la ignotiore_fw-la nor_o deny_v a_o plain_a and_o certain_a truth_n that_o man_n beget_v man_n because_o we_o be_v uncertain_a of_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o propagation_n as_o man_n do_v in_o the_o controversy_n about_o grace_n and_o freewill_n so_o do_v they_o in_o this_o they_o divide_v what_o be_v to_o be_v conjoin_v for_o fear_v of_o give_v too_o much_o to_o the_o other_o side_n as_o one_o deny_v special_a ascertain_v grace_n and_o another_o deny_v freewill_n when_o that_o grace_n work_v by_o this_o freewill_n so_o some_o deny_v god_n part_n in_o the_o cause_v of_o the_o soul_n and_o some_o deny_v man_n part_n because_o they_o be_v unskilful_a in_o discern_v the_o concourse_n god_n do_v as_o much_o in_o it_o as_o if_o man_n do_v nothing_o and_o be_v as_o full_o the_o cause_n as_o if_o it_o be_v by_o a_o mere_a creation_n and_o man_n be_v no_o cause_n and_o yet_o he_o cause_v it_o by_o man_n even_o in_o the_o way_n of_o natural_a procreation_n which_o by_o a_o establish_v law_n he_o appoint_v in_o the_o beginning_n and_o then_o give_v man_n a_o live_a soul_n that_o may_v propagate_v live_v soul_n and_o more_o than_o so_o it_o be_v the_o soul_n that_o be_v the_o principal_a in_o procreating_a and_o be_v procreate_v and_o that_o spark_n of_o immortal_a life_n that_o be_v in_o semine_fw-la do_v by_o due_a cherish_n of_o the_o further_a cause_n fabricate_a its_o own_o body_n and_o the_o soul_n as_o scaliger_n say_v ex_fw-la themistio_n svi_fw-la domicilii_fw-la non_fw-la inquilina_fw-la tantum_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o architecta_fw-la under_o god_n and_o we_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o our_o knowledge_n of_o the_o way_n or_o manner_n of_o god_n influx_n into_o and_o concourse_n with_o second_o cause_n be_v so_o much_o above_o our_o reach_n that_o we_o be_v unfit_a from_o presumption_n about_o such_o a_o mystery_n to_o argue_v against_o a_o reveal_v truth_n nay_o when_o we_o have_v conjecture_v at_o the_o manner_n it_o be_v our_o wise_a course_n to_o confess_v we_o know_v it_o not_o but_o as_o the_o wind_n blow_v where_o it_o list_v and_o we_o hear_v the_o sound_n of_o it_o but_o know_v not_o whence_o it_o come_v or_o whither_o it_o go_v so_o be_v it_o in_o the_o outgoing_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o the_o new_a birth_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n of_o his_o causation_n of_o the_o natural_a birth_n but_o of_o these_o thing_n we_o be_v certain_a 1._o that_o the_o parent_n beget_v the_o child_n man_n beget_v man_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o nature_n first_o give_v they_o with_o the_o law_n or_o blessing_n annex_v increase_v and_o multiply_v and_o god_n continue_a influence_n 2._o that_o man_n soul_n be_v not_o debilitate_a in_o its_o vegetative_a and_o sensitive_a operation_n by_o be_v rational_a 3._o that_o go_v man_n beget_v not_o less_o than_o bruit_n he_o that_o say_v the_o soul_n as_o vegetative_a and_o sensitive_a be_v not_o beget_v make_v man_n to_o beget_v less_o than_o bruit_n 4._o yea_o he_o make_v he_o to_o beget_v nothing_o for_o the_o body_n or_o mere_a matter_n
hoc_fw-la vero_fw-la absurdum_fw-la videtur_fw-la &_o eum_fw-la justitia_fw-la dei_fw-la pugnans_fw-la respon_n non_fw-la foret_fw-la absurdum_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la deus_fw-la posteriores_fw-la magis_fw-la desereret_fw-la ac_fw-la puniret_fw-la nam_fw-la quanto_fw-la plura_fw-la peccata_fw-la a_o genere_fw-la humano_fw-la cumulantur_fw-la tanto_fw-la magis_fw-la ira_fw-la dei_fw-la accenditur_fw-la &_o exasperatur_fw-la poena_fw-la juxta_fw-la illud_fw-la nondum_fw-la completae_fw-la sunt_fw-la iniquitates_fw-la amorrhaeorum_n etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la veniat_fw-la super_fw-la vos_fw-la omnis_fw-la sanguis_fw-la iustùs_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la &_o minor_fw-la negatur_fw-la etsi_fw-la enim_fw-la deus_fw-la propter_fw-la justitiam_fw-la svam_fw-la peccatum_fw-la originis_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la vitium_fw-la naturae_fw-la &_o reatum_fw-la in_o omnes_fw-la posteros_fw-la transire_fw-la sinit_fw-la tamen_fw-la simul_fw-la ex_fw-la misericordia_fw-la metas_fw-la figit_fw-la peccato_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la semper_fw-la majorum_fw-la peccata_fw-la actualia_fw-la imitentur_fw-la &_o luant_fw-la posteri_fw-la nec_fw-la semper_fw-la malorum_fw-la parentum_fw-la mali_fw-la aut_fw-la deteriores_fw-la ac_fw-la miseriores_fw-la liberi_fw-la existant_fw-la sect._n 40._o xi_o mr._n gataker_n '_o be_v word_n mr._n poole_n thus_o translate_v in_o his_o synop_n crit._n in_o exod._n 20._o p._n 403._o punit_fw-la deus_fw-la sapenumero_fw-la liberos_fw-la propter_fw-la peccata_fw-la parentum_fw-la ut_fw-la constat_fw-la exemplis_fw-la &_o sanctionibus_fw-la s._n scripturae_fw-la vid._n exod._n 4._o 22_o 23._o &_o 12._o 29._o &_o 34._o 7._o num._n 14._o 18._o 2_o sam._n 12._o 14._o 1_o reg._n 13._o 33._o &_o 14._o 1._o 17._o rationes_fw-la 1._o quod_fw-la liberi_fw-la sint_fw-la res_fw-la atque_fw-la possessiones_fw-la parentum_fw-la 2._o liberi_fw-la praeterea_fw-la sunt_fw-la part_n sive_fw-la membra_fw-la parentum_fw-la &_o sunt_fw-la quasi_fw-la una_fw-la persona_fw-la cum_fw-la parentibus_fw-la ut_fw-la recte_fw-la althus_n dicaeolog_fw-la l._n 1._o vid._n gen._n 20._o 7._o 18._o mat._n 15._o 22._o quod_fw-la ad_fw-la loca_fw-la in_o contraria_fw-la prolata_fw-la deut._n 24._o jer._n 31._o ezek._n 18._o 1._o debent_fw-la 〈◊〉_d mortem_fw-la deo_fw-la etc._n etc._n 2._o non_fw-la sunt_fw-la haec_fw-la apud_fw-la homines_fw-la semper_fw-la injusta_fw-la etc._n etc._n where_o he_o instane_v in_o similitude_n see_v his_o sermon_n itself_o on_o 1_o kin._n 14._o 17._o sect._n 41._o xii_o if_o i_o think_v it_o will_v be_v worth_a my_o own_o and_o the_o reader_n trouble_v i_o will_v undertake_v to_o produce_v abundance_n more_o of_o protestant_a writer_n and_o let_v but_o expositor_n on_o the_o second_o commandment_n be_v examine_v by_o he_o that_o doubt_v of_o it_o and_o he_o will_v be_v satisfy_v if_o he_o have_v store_n at_o hand_n i_o only_o now_o say_v of_o many_o in_o general_n that_o the_o ordinary_a say_n of_o such_o expositor_n be_v that_o temporal_a punishment_n and_o some_o spiritual_a be_v oft_o inflict_v by_o god_n on_o child_n for_o their_o father_n sin_n i_o will_v give_v you_o the_o sense_n of_o many_o in_o deodate_n word_n on_o exod._n 20._o 5._o visit_v that_o be_v i_o inquire_v after_o it_o and_o punish_v it_o of_o the_o father_n as_o concern_v eternal_a judgement_n upon_o the_o soul_n every_o one_o die_v for_o his_o own_o iniquity_n own_o jer._n 31._o 30._o but_o for_o the_o father_n sin_n the_o child_n be_v often_o punish_v in_o body_n in_o good_n and_o other_o thing_n which_o they_o hold_v and_o derive_v from_o their_o parent_n num._n 14._o 33._o 2_o sam._n 12._o 11._o and_o 21._o 5._o 15._o and_o beside_o god_n oftentimes_o curse_v the_o generation_n of_o the_o wicked_a withdraw_v his_o grace_n spirit_n from_o it_o whereby_o imitate_v their_o parent_n wickedness_n they_o be_v punish_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n 1_o sam._n 15._o 2._o matth._n 23._o 32._o 25._o sect._n 42._o here_o note_n 1._o that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o punishment_n temporal_a or_o eternal_a where_o there_o be_v no_o impute_a guilt_n therefore_o all_o those_o divine_n who_o say_v that_o not_o only_a parent_n in_o their_o child_n but_o child_n for_o their_o parent_n sin_n have_v the_o least_o punishment_n do_v thereby_o assert_v a_o guilt_n 2._o that_o there_o be_v no_o guilt_n of_o sin_n which_o deserve_v not_o great_a yea_o perpetual_a punishment_n if_o not_o remit_v 3._o that_o privation_n of_o grace_n and_o the_o spirit_n here_o mention_v be_v a_o most_o heavy_a punishment_n tend_v to_o that_o which_o be_v perpetual_a 4._o that_o child_n be_v to_o derive_v from_o their_o parent_n or_o from_o god_n by_o they_o great_a mercy_n than_o good_n health_n etc._n etc._n even_o church-membership_a right_a to_o baptism_n and_o so_o to_o pardon_v and_o the_o other_o save_v benefit_n of_o the_o covenant_n as_o be_v holy_a therefore_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n as_o health_n good_n etc._n etc._n may_v be_v deny_v they_o because_o they_o be_v derive_v from_o parent_n as_o deodate_v speak_v baptism_n and_o its_o benefit_n may_v be_v deny_v they_o 5._o and_o have_v not_o the_o universal_a church_n give_v we_o their_o judgement_n of_o the_o case_n who_o have_v in_o all_o age_n judge_v that_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v deny_v to_o the_o child_n of_o heathen_n and_o infidel_n unless_o other_o man_n own_v they_o make_v they_o no_o long_o they_o at_o least_o i_o may_v say_v if_o as_o many_o be_v of_o my_o judgement_n concern_v our_o guilt_n of_o parent_n sin_n as_o hold_v that_o baptism_n and_o its_o fruit_n be_v to_o be_v deny_v to_o such_o child_n of_o infidel_n the_o number_n will_v be_v so_o great_a and_o honourable_a that_o i_o will_v wish_v this_o worthy_a dr._n no_o more_o to_o make_v they_o seem_v as_o none_o and_o as_o i_o have_v before_o show_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v be_v to_o they_o a_o penalty_n and_o that_o not_o only_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o papist_n who_o shut_v such_o out_o of_o heaven_n but_o of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n who_o take_v baptism_n to_o be_v our_o solemn_a investiture_n in_o a_o state_n of_o life_n and_o the_o seal_n of_o pardon_n and_o right_a to_o salvation_n as_o gataker_n against_o davenant_n de_fw-fr bapt._n have_v prove_v by_o cite_v a_o multitude_n of_o their_o testimony_n as_o a_o useful_a index_n to_o save_v reader_n much_o labour_n on_o that_o point_n and_o i_o have_v elsewhere_o prove_v at_o large_a sacram_fw-la that_o the_o scripture_n mention_v no_o baptism_n of_o christ_n institution_n which_o be_v not_o for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n if_o any_o say_v that_o this_o be_v no_o new_a penalty_n but_o a_o leave_v they_o under_o the_o old_a and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o for_o the_o parent_n unbelief_n but_o the_o parent_n only_o do_v omit_v their_o duty_n needful_a to_o the_o child_n liberation_n i_o again_o answer_v that_o have_v there_o be_v no_o saviour_n covenant_n mean_n or_o hope_v it_o have_v indeed_o be_v no_o penalty_n because_o no_o privation_n but_o 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