you_o mean_v not_o thus_o 5.23_o 〈◊〉_d the._n 5.23_o than_o you_o again_o use_v sophistry_n deceive_v we_o with_o the_o word_n soul_n for_o we_o mean_v thereby_o in_o this_o question_n only_o the_o spirit_n or_o mind_n as_o it_o be_v also_o call_v in_o exact_a and_o distinct_a speech_n howbeit_o speak_v vulgar_o and_o ordinary_o we_o call_v it_o the_o soul_n which_o yet_o sometime_o be_v understand_v only_o for_o the_o sensitive_a part_n quicken_a the_o body_n and_o depend_v thereon_o but_o this_o indeed_o be_v not_o it_o which_o we_o have_v here_o in_o quaestion_n if_o you_o mean_v in_o soul_n to_o be_v proper_o and_o immediate_o in_o his_o immortal_a spirit_n as_o the_o ordinary_a phrase_n intend_v and_o that_o so_o he_o suffer_v direct_o punishment_n for_o sin_n in_o his_o soul_n &_o not_o devotion_n &_o piety_n &_o zealous_a care_n only_o as_o i_o doubt_v e_o you_o mean_v than_o you_o differ_v not_o from_o we_o 18._o 〈◊〉_d observe_v 〈◊〉_d 18._o but_o we_o all_o agree_v and_o thus_o my_o word_n shall_v be_v true_a christ_n suffer_v a_o sense_n of_o god_n wrath_n f_o equal_v to_o hell_n itself_o and_o all_o the_o torment_n thereof_o for_o as_o touch_v god_n wrath_n punish_v his_o spirit_n 244.247_o which_o you_o 〈◊〉_d s_o o_o blame_n 〈◊〉_d 244.247_o who_o can_v say_v but_o that_o this_o be_v as_o hot_a and_o skorching_a as_o hell_n fire_n itself_o who_o can_v limit_v or_o measure_v the_o fury_n of_o god_n severe_a justice_n when_o he_o come_v in_o judgement_n against_o sin_n as_o now_o he_o do_v unto_o christ_n this_o therefore_o be_v well_o ponder_v we_o may_v preceave_v that_o christ_n sorrow_n &_o anguish_n which_o he_o endure_v for_o sin_n may_v very_o well_o be_v and_o be_v no_o doubt_n infinite_a yea_o even_o in_o those_o bodily_a stripe_n wound_n and_o bloodshed_n who_o pain_n otherwise_o be_v finite_a his_o soul_n not_o only_o discern_v sensitive_o the_o bodily_a pain_n &_o smart_n but_o chief_o in_o the_o understanding_n he_o conceive_v and_o in_o his_o faculty_n of_o immediate_a suffering_n he_o feel_v the_o fury_n of_o that_o hand_n which_o principal_o strike_v those_o blow_n upon_o his_o humane_a nature_n not_o pilat_n nor_o the_o jew_n who_o be_v but_o instrument_n but_o the_o original_n and_o chief_a employ_v they_o which_o be_v god_n justice_n arm_v with_o vengeance_n for_o his_o sin_n his_o i_o may_v call_v it_o for_o he_o pay_v for_o it_o now_o this_o can_v not_o but_o make_v a_o unspeakable_a impression_n of_o pain_n &_o sorrow_n which_o stack_n in_o the_o depth_n of_o his_o soul_n who_o then_o can_v say_v how_o little_a or_o how_o small_a this_o be_v nay_o who_o can_v declare_v or_o comprehend_v the_o infinite_a greatness_n of_o it_o final_o yourself_o do_v grant_v express_o that_o 2._o that_o pag._n 2._o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n be_v hell_n indeed_o only_o it_o 30_o it_o isa_n 30_o cause_v hell_n to_o be_v cruel_a yea_o you_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v sharp_a than_o hell_n so_o that_o we_o see_v hereby_o how_o vain_o you_o say_v 2d_o say_v pag._n 2d_o out_o of_o this_o proposition_n christ_n suffer_v for_o we_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n for_o sin_n i_o shall_v never_o conclude_v ergo_fw-la he_o suffer_v the_o true_a pain_n of_o hell_n i_o have_v here_o show_v you_o i_o trust_v that_o this_o follow_v well_o see_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n which_o christ_n feel_v in_o his_o spirit_n be_v his_o right_n and_o proper_a wrath_n albeit_o he_o suffer_v not_o all_o nor_o the_o whole_a wrath_n of_o god_n nor_o hell_n local_o nor_o every_o part_n thereof_o just_a as_o the_o damn_a do_v which_o you_o without_o all_o colour_n of_o reason_n or_o likelihood_n will_v make_v man_n imagine_v to_o be_v the_o question_n between_o us._n you_o 24_o you_o pag._n 24_o will_v make_v a_o contradition_n in_o my_o word_n for_o say_v 1._o say_v treat_n 1._o christ_n suffer_v in_o his_o whole_a manhood_n and_o afterward_o 1._o afterward_o treat_n 1._o christ_n suffer_v god_n wrath_n proper_o and_o immediate_o in_o his_o soul_n where_o i_o say_v not_o as_o you_o untrue_o charge_v i_o that_o he_o suffer_v all_o that_o he_o suffer_v in_o his_o whole_a manhood_n wherefore_o this_o be_v a_o niew_n contrariety_n again_o grant_v he_o to_o suffer_v all_o that_o he_o suffer_v in_o his_o whole_a manhood_n yet_o he_o must_v suffer_v god_n wrath_n as_o god_n wrath_n proper_o and_o immediate_o in_o his_o soul_n in_o his_o body_n mediate_o and_o by_o conjunction_n only_o with_o his_o soul_n and_o thus_o my_o reason_n 1._o reason_n treat_n 1._o there_o frame_v be_v yet_o still_o whole_o good_a and_o sound_a then_o i_o be_o charge_v with_o absurditye_n i_o know_v not_o how_o many_o nor_o how_o great_a 1._o 34â—_n 1._o pag._n 34â—_n because_o i_o say_v 17._o say_v treat_n â—_o pag._n 17._o christ_n assume_v not_o our_o nature_n nor_o any_o part_n of_o it_o but_o only_o to_o suffer_v in_o it_o proper_o and_o immediate_o as_o if_o i_o have_v mean_v here_o that_o he_o become_v man_n not_o to_o reveal_v to_o we_o by_o his_o own_o mouth_n his_o father_n will_n not_o to_o work_v righteousness_n for_o we_o not_o to_o quicken_v and_o sanctify_v we_o but_o only_o to_o suffer_v for_o we_o and_o nothing_o else_o wherein_o who_o will_v have_v show_v himself_o so_o unjust_a a_o adversary_n &_o so_o unreasonable_a be_v it_o not_o reason_n and_o just_a deal_n to_o consider_v whereof_o we_o dispute_v and_o so_o weigh_v the_o whole_a matter_n of_o our_o talk_n not_o to_o stretch_v and_o rack_n my_o word_n further_o than_o that_o all_o man_n may_v see_v it_o to_o be_v manefe_a that_o 16._o that_o treat_n â—_o pag._n 16._o here_o i_o speak_v only_o of_o christ_n suffering_n for_o our_o redemption_n have_v not_o one_o word_n about_o his_o other_o benefit_n which_o he_o wrought_v for_o us._n 17._o pag._n 17._o a_o and_o after_o speak_v of_o christ_n soul_n suffer_v i_o show_v that_o although_o there_o be_v 2_o sort_n thereof_o one_o immediate_a and_o proper_a a_o other_o by_o sympathy_n from_o and_o with_o the_o flesh_n yet_o christ_n take_v our_o humane_a soul_n only_o to_o suffer_v in_o it_o proper_o &_o immediate_o that_o be_v his_o main_a end_n be_v not_o that_o he_o shall_v suffer_v in_o it_o by_o sympathy_n from_o and_o with_o the_o body_n and_o only_o so_o which_o you_o very_o strange_o affirm_v so_o that_o my_o meaning_n be_v no_o more_o but_o to_o exclude_v that_o which_o you_o affirm_v that_o christ_n take_v his_o humane_a soul_n to_o suffer_v in_o it_o only_o from_o and_o by_o his_o body_n this_o here_o i_o deny_v and_o nothing_o else_o for_o i_o grant_v that_o christ_n intend_v that_o his_o humane_a soul_n shall_v suffer_v by_o sympathy_n but_o yet_o also_o this_o he_o intend_v not_o direct_o nor_o primary_o in_o take_v the_o 2_o distinct_a part_n of_o our_o humane_a nature_n our_o soul_n and_o our_o body_n he_o intend_v it_o by_o consequence_n because_o nature_n right_a state_n be_v such_o in_o we_o therefore_o determine_v to_o be_v in_o nature_n like_o we_o he_o will_v also_o that_o his_o soul_n shall_v feel_v the_o body_n outward_a harm_n as_o it_o do_v with_o us._n howbeit_o in_o comparison_n of_o the_o soul_n most_o principal_a disposition_n &_o of_o that_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o reasonable_a creature_n he_o do_v not_o respect_v the_o inferior_a part_n that_o which_o be_v common_a to_o we_o with_o beast_n even_o this_o sensitive_a suffering_n by_o sympathy_n with_o and_o from_o the_o body_n i_o say_v in_o comparison_n of_o the_o other_o christ_n respect_v not_o this_o yet_o he_o do_v respect_v this_o also_o as_o i_o say_v secondary_o &_o consequent_o that_o be_v because_o he_o intend_v to_o have_v our_o nature_n in_o whole_a and_o full_a perfection_n as_o we_o have_v it_o only_o except_o sin_n now_o i_o beseech_v you_o will_v any_o upright_a adversary_n object_n against_o i_o that_o in_o this_o speech_n i_o exclude_v christ_n do_v righteousness_n in_o his_o soul_n for_o we_o etc._n etc._n i_o appeal_v to_o all_o indifferent_a reader_n rather_o hence_o we_o be_v to_o gather_v &_o to_o conclude_v that_o each_o part_n in_o christ_n ought_v to_o have_v the_o proper_a and_o immediate_a use_n as_o be_v incident_a to_o the_o nature_n thereof_o aswell_o in_o suffering_n as_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o it_o have_v in_o work_a righteousness_n in_o christ_n work_v of_o righteousness_n and_o obedience_n to_o god_n his_o soul_n have_v a_o proper_a and_o immediate_a part_n to_o do_v which_o it_o execute_v without_o the_o body_n as_o to_o conceive_v &_o meditate_v on_o the_o will_n of_o god_n reveal_v to_o he_o to_o love_v and_o whole_o to_o embrace_v it_o and_o to_o purpose_v the_o full_a perform_v of_o it_o etc._n etc._n his_o body_n also_o have_v a_o proper_a and_o external_a use_n not_o only_o to_o follow_v
but_o neither_o shame_n nor_o death_n to_o the_o holy_a martyr_n be_v d_o account_v by_o god_n nor_o by_o his_o servant_n as_o proper_a and_o true_a curse_n 50._o before_o pag._n 9_o 50._o but_o the_o holy_a man_n be_v in_o truth_n most_o glorious_a and_o bless_a in_o they_o again_o the_o saint_n and_o martyr_n can_v not_o be_v proper_o curse_v and_o proper_o bless_v too_o in_o any_o measure_n neither_o their_o soul_n bless_v unless_o their_o body_n be_v bless_v also_o &_o free_a from_o the_o true_a curse_n although_o you_o seem_v to_o deny_v this_o point_n which_o strange_a and_o uncouth_a assertion_n both_o here_o and_o in_o many_o place_n mo_z you_o do_v at_o lest_o insinuat_fw-la that_o be_v that_o the_o godly_a in_o their_o soul_n be_v bless_v but_o in_o their_o body_n they_o still_o retain_v god_n true_a &_o proper_a curse_n till_o the_o resurrection_n which_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o godly_a you_o say_v we_o must_v call_v thing_n by_o those_o name_n which_o god_n first_o allot_v they_o that_o i_o deny_v if_o god_n since_o evident_o have_v alter_v they_o and_o dispose_v of_o they_o otherwise_o but_o he_o have_v so_o do_v in_o this_o case_n the_o affliction_n and_o death_n which_o original_o and_o natural_o be_v punishment_n for_o sin_n and_o be_v so_o still_o to_o the_o wicked_a the_o same_o to_o the_o godly_a as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v be_v since_o change_v &_o now_o be_v proper_o chastisement_n of_o sin_n and_o not_o punishment_n nor_o curse_n only_o christ_n have_v suffer_v the_o whole_a proper_a punishment_n and_o true_a curse_n or_o vengeance_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o therefore_o on_o we_o it_o be_v not_o it_o can_v not_o be_v lay_v again_o in_o any_o part_n thereof_o you_o 96._o you_o pag._n 96._o avouch_v some_o that_o deny_v christ_n to_o have_v be_v make_v a_o curse_n or_o sin_n but_o you_o must_v remember_v 92._o remember_v pag._n 92._o your_o own_o place_n of_o austin_n maledictum_fw-la est_fw-la omne_fw-la peccatum_fw-la sive_fw-la ipsum_fw-la quod_fw-la fit_a sive_fw-la ipsum_fw-la supplicium_fw-la the_o curse_n be_v all_o sin_n which_o be_v twofold_a either_o that_o which_o we_o commit_v against_o god_n law_n or_o else_o the_o very_a punishment_n of_o that_o sin_n now_o 96._o now_o pag._n 96._o your_o testimony_n do_v mean_a christ_n be_v not_o make_v a_o curse_n or_o sin_v the_o first_o way_n that_o be_v he_o be_v not_o in_o himself_o sinful_a nor_o hate_v they_o deny_v not_o the_o second_o that_o he_o be_v make_v the_o proper_a punishment_n or_o sacrifice_n for_o our_o sin_n and_o thus_o though_o you_o lust_v not_o to_o see_v it_o yet_o my_o 45._o my_o treâ—â—_n pag._n 45._o speech_n be_v sound_a and_o true_a if_o christ_n die_v simple_o but_o as_o the_o godly_a dye_n it_o may_v in_o no_o sort_n 3._o sort_n gal._n 3._o here_o be_v call_v a_o curse_n the_o reason_n be_v evident_a because_o the_o text_n here_o do_v speak_v &_o treat_v of_o the_o curse_n of_o the_o law_n against_o sin_n such_o therefore_o be_v christ_n curse_n which_o he_o suâ—layned_v to_o conclude_v then_o his_o affliction_n and_o death_n be_v neither_o wage_n nor_o chastisement_n nor_o curse_n nor_o consequent_a of_o any_o sin_n in_o he_o yet_o as_o god_n make_v he_o sin_n for_o we_o so_o he_o true_o proper_o and_o in_o very_a deed_n lay_v the_o pain_n of_o his_o curse_n upon_o his_o body_n and_o soul_n which_o curse_n of_o god_n upon_o christ_n as_o you_o 26_o you_o pag_n 26_o say_v true_o be_v not_o in_o word_n but_o in_o deed_n wherefore_o my_o word_n 2d_o word_n pag._n 2d_o you_o open_o pervert_v affirm_v that_o i_o say_v death_n here_o that_o be_v christ_n death_n note_v galat._n 3.13_o â—ay_n in_o no_o sort_n be_v call_v a_o curse_n when_o i_o express_o even_o there_o and_o every_o where_o do_v say_v the_o contrary_n 263._o pag._n 263._o but_o a_o your_o great_a exception_n be_v that_o this_o curse_v lay_v on_o christ_n can_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o whole_a curse_n of_o god_n or_o of_o the_o law_n 264._o pag._n 264._o and_o therefore_o b_o you_o spare_v i_o not_o for_o c_o saying_n that_o paul_n here_o in_o his_o application_n out_o of_o moses_n name_v a_o part_n of_o the_o just_a curse_n of_o the_o law_n for_o sin_n 40._o treat_n 1._o pag._n 40._o thereby_o mean_v and_o infer_v to_o his_o purpose_n the_o whole_a where_o you_o must_v be_v so_o good_a as_o to_o understand_v i_o by_o my_o own_o word_n in_o other_o place_n 290._o pag_n 290._o for_o thus_o do_v you_o know_v e_o i_o limit_v my_o speech_n else_o where_o as_o touch_v the_o vehemency_n of_o pain_n christ_n be_v as_o sharp_o touch_v as_o the_o very_a reprobat_n 81._o treat_n 1._o pag_n 81._o and_o christ_n suffering_n be_v equal_a to_o the_o very_a hellish_a torment_n in_o vehemency_n of_o pain_n and_o sharpness_n again_o f_o this_o price_n equal_o in_o justice_n must_v be_v keep_v so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v possible_a 26._o pag._n 26._o and_o 37._o and_o pag._n 37._o because_o there_o be_v no_o impossibility_n no_o necessity_n no_o reason_n but_o he_o may_v feel_v the_o full_a smart_n of_o our_o sin_n as_o there_o be_v that_o he_o shall_v not_o feel_v the_o full_a continuance_n thereof_o and_o see_v god_n strict_a justice_n require_v it_o to_o be_v so_o therefore_o it_o be_v so_o he_o suffer_v all_o the_o smart_n but_o not_o all_o the_o continuance_n of_o our_o punishment_n 13_o â—_o also_o pa._n 23._o heeâ—e_n pa._n 13_o thus_o then_o plain_o h_o i_o signify_v i_o those_o 3_o limitation_n which_o now_o be_v express_v that_o christ_n suffer_v our_o whole_a curse_n only_o so_o far_o as_o the_o possibility_n of_o thing_n can_v admit_v wherein_o nothing_o be_v dispense_v nor_o pardon_v to_o he_o for_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v which_o doctrine_n how_o unworthy_a it_o be_v of_o your_o strange_a contempt_n and_o outcry_n against_o i_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o godly_a wise_a to_o consider_v catechis_n nowell_n catechis_n only_o mark_v if_o our_o k_n public_a doctrine_n be_v not_o the_o same_o vltima_fw-la omne_fw-la pati_fw-la voluir_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la qui_fw-la ultima_fw-la omne_fw-la commeriti_fw-la sumus_fw-la diram_fw-la execrationem_fw-la suscepit_fw-la contumelias_fw-la etiam_fw-la omnes_fw-la omne_fw-la probra_fw-la atque_fw-la supplicia_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o you_o will_v say_v thus_o we_o make_v it_o not_o the_o whole_a curse_n of_o the_o law_n yes_o we_o call_v it_o right_o the_o whole_a curse_n for_o as_o much_o as_o christ_n suffer_v it_o in_o his_o whole_a manhood_n 52_o see_v before_o pag_n 8._o 1._o the._n 5.28_o â—_o pa._n 48._o 52_o even_o in_o l_o all_o the_o power_n of_o his_o m_o spirit_n &_o soul_n &_o body_n where_o that_o curse_n in_o deutero_fw-la be_v a_o part_n be_v suffer_v only_o in_o the_o body_n quicken_v by_o the_o soul_n also_o in_o other_o respect_n this_o suffering_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v well_o call_v the_o whole_a curse_n or_o punishment_n of_o sin_n 280_o pag._n 11_o 12._o â—nâ—_n 16.17_o pa._n 27â—_n 280_o as_o n_o before_o be_v declare_v after_o this_o o_o you_o think_v it_o strange_a that_o i_o say_v christ_n suffer_v &_o die_v just_o and_o be_v hang_v on_o the_o tree_n by_o the_o just_a sentence_n of_o the_o law_n &_o that_o so_o he_o be_v by_o imputation_n of_o our_o state_n and_o condition_n unto_o he_o sinful_a 51.11_o 〈◊〉_d before_o 〈◊〉_d 51.11_o defile_v hateful_a and_o accurse_a all_o the_o which_o i_o avouch_v because_o he_o undertake_v by_o god_n ordinance_n as_o our_o surety_n to_o receive_v our_o whole_a condemnation_n upon_o himself_o so_o far_o as_o his_o own_o nature_n and_o condition_n can_v possible_o admit_v just_o christ_n suffeâ—_n just_o to_o the_o end_n that_o he_o may_v whole_o acquit_v us._n in_o regard_n whereof_o i_o ask_v be_v it_o wrong_n for_o the_o law_n to_o lay_v the_o penalty_n on_o the_o surety_n when_o the_o debtor_n can_v not_o discharge_v it_o against_o this_o my_o assertion_n you_o say_v 27â—_n say_v pag._n 27â—_n by_o no_o sentence_n of_o the_o law_n he_o hang_v on_o a_o tree_n and_o a_o reason_n you_o give_v 273_o give_v pag._n 273_o because_o to_o be_v hang_v on_o a_o tree_n be_v no_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o general_a curse_n of_o god_n upon_o all_o sinner_n i_o answer_v to_o die_v for_o sin_n be_v a_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o general_a curse_n upon_o all_o sinner_n what_o say_v you_o then_o to_o his_o death_n do_v he_o die_v just_o sure_o if_o christ_n die_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n justice_n than_o he_o die_v just_o if_o he_o die_v not_o by_o god_n justice_n than_o woe_n and_o thrice_o wo_n to_o us._n for_o it_o can_v be_v but_o god_n justice_n 66._o justice_n luc._n 16.1_o deut._n 10.1_o rom._n 8.32_o see_v before_o pag._n 66._o must_v
lâ—sse_o to_o make_v his_o son_n or_o his_o son_n to_o make_v himself_o any_o such_o surety_n or_o redeemer_n of_o rebel_n as_o christ_n be_v make_v and_o may_v be_v make_v of_o god_n for_o us._n so_o that_o also_o where_o you_o will_v have_v it_o to_o serve_v that_o we_o may_v perceive_v by_o this_o how_o christ_n be_v not_o defile_v nor_o hateful_a nor_o guilty_a by_o imputation_n of_o our_o treason_n it_o be_v evident_o to_o weak_a for_o you_o have_v not_o show_v neither_o can_v show_v that_o this_o king_n son_n be_v or_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v such_o a_o surety_n &_o redeemer_n as_o christ_n be_v that_o be_v unto_o bodily_a death_n therefore_o this_o similitude_n can_v be_v good_a we_o have_v other_o manner_n of_o warrant_n that_o christ_n be_v by_o imputation_n make_v sin_n for_o we_o and_o the_o curse_n for_o we_o and_o that_o this_o ordinance_n be_v holy_a and_o right_a and_o above_o all_o reproof_n which_o you_o can_v not_o bring_v for_o your_o king_n son_n suretyship_n nor_o for_o the_o king_n fact_n who_o keep_v not_o the_o order_n of_o justice_n when_o he_o spare_v abominable_a rebel_n without_o their_o bloodshed_n or_o when_o he_o slay_v his_o guiltless_a son_n for_o they_o that_o they_o may_v be_v spare_v after_o this_o c_o he_o impugn_v another_o reason_n of_o i_o with_o marveylous_a scorn_n and_o detestation_n 183.284_o pa._n 183.284_o that_o see_v christ_n d_o on_o the_o cross_n spoil_v principality_n and_o power_n 2.15_o col._n 2.15_o and_o make_v a_o show_n of_o they_o open_o triumph_v over_o they_o therefore_o i_o collect_v that_o christ_n there_o discern_v and_o feel_v the_o power_n of_o darkness_n satan_n and_o his_o complice_n as_o very_a instrument_n work_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath_n upon_o himself_o which_o as_o i_o conceive_v be_v no_o such_o foolish_a nor_o impious_a reason_n as_o he_o vain_o pretend_v for_o do_v not_o the_o very_a phrase_n and_o manner_n of_o speech_n import_v some_o such_o mighty_a contention_n and_o violent_a opposition_n where_o yet_o at_o length_n a_o absolute_a &_o glorious_a triumphant_a victory_n be_v obtain_v sure_o it_o do_v this_o than_o must_v be_v conceive_v and_o feel_v by_o christ_n neither_o can_v these_o be_v other_o effect_n but_o only_o of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n severity_n and_o indignation_n against_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n which_o be_v matter_n of_o torment_n of_o of_o some_o pain_n a_o torment_n opposition_n against_o christ_n at_o that_o season_n it_o can_v not_o be_v the_o reveal_n of_o any_o glory_n or_o comfort_n which_o such_o instrument_n procure_v unto_o he_o &_o wrought_v upon_o he_o against_o this_o you_o bring_v not_o a_o word_n nevertheless_o your_o high_a disdain_n towards_o i_o break_v out_o touch_v the_o manner_n how_o this_o may_v be_v but_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o purpose_n what_o if_o no_o tongue_n can_v express_v the_o manner_n as_o neither_o have_v i_o once_o endeavour_v to_o express_v it_o shall_v not_o therefore_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o h._n ghost_n be_v true_a that_o on_o the_o cross_n christ_n obtain_v such_o a_o victory_n against_o the_o devil_n which_o impli_v also_o such_o a_o conflict_n first_o as_o i_o have_v observe_v yet_o because_o you_o will_v needs_o examine_v the_o manner_n how_o possible_o this_o may_v be_v let_v we_o see_v what_o you_o make_v of_o it_o the_o devil_n say_v you_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n but_o either_o to_o tempt_v they_o or_o torment_v they_o first_o before_o i_o answer_v you_o direct_o this_o we_o may_v consider_v christ_n may_v and_o no_o doubt_n he_o do_v in_o his_o soul_n discern_v conceive_v and_o apply_v to_o himself_o all_o the_o rage_n malice_n cross_n how_o châ—â—â—_n may_v be_v fault_v by_o than_o on_o cross_n and_o violence_n of_o the_o jew_n torment_v he_o to_o death_n as_o set_v on_o fire_n by_o satan_n himself_o and_o by_o all_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n and_o these_o also_o as_o set_v on_o work_n by_o the_o justice_n and_o severe_a wrath_n of_o god_n now_o purposely_o lay_v punishment_n on_o his_o son_n thereby_o to_o take_v satisfaction_n and_o recompense_n for_o all_o our_o sin_n now_o this_o feel_n and_o suffer_v in_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n make_v a_o other_o kind_n of_o impression_n in_o he_o and_o be_v infinite_o more_o grievous_a and_o doleful_a as_o touch_v the_o present_a sense_n then_o otherwise_o the_o mere_a outward_a stripe_n and_o wound_n of_o man_n be_v or_o can_v be_v these_o conflict_n of_o christ_n on_o the_o cross_n with_o satan_n rage_n &_o malice_n labour_v if_o he_o can_v possible_o by_o these_o mean_n to_o have_v quench_v the_o light_n of_o our_o salvatio_fw-la may_v well_o be_v understand_v by_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o place_n &_o yet_o none_o of_o your_o exception_n do_v touch_v this_o argument_n elsewhere_o in_o your_o book_n you_o speak_v direct_o against_o the_o main_a ground_n of_o it_o affirm_v that_o god_n himself_o do_v nothing_o to_o christ_n that_o be_v he_o do_v not_o pper_o punish_v he_o thus_o you_o say_v 3â—_n say_v pag._n 3â—_n god_n do_v not_o any_o thing_n unto_o he_o and_o 32._o and_o pag._n 32._o who_o do_v crucify_v he_o i_o pray_v you_o god_n or_o the_o jew_n and_o 7â—_n and_o pag._n 7â—_n he_o be_v indeed_o condemn_v by_o man_n that_o give_v wrongful_a sentence_n of_o death_n against_o he_o but_o he_o be_v acquit_v of_o god_n and_o pag._n and_o pag._n christ_n be_v no_o more_o a_o curse_n than_o he_o be_v sin_n who_o indeed_o and_o with_o god_n be_v neither_o 21_o â—roperâ—â—â—hed_a â—â—st_n â—â—or_n 5_o 21_o but_o with_o man_n he_o be_v repute_v both_o wicked_a and_o accurse_v notwithstanding_o the_o very_a truth_n and_o god_n word_n itself_o be_v flat_a contrary_n to_o you_o for_o it_o be_v write_v ah_o have_v make_v he_o sin_n for_o we_o which_o know_v no_o sin_n that_o we_o shall_v be_v make_v the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n in_o he_o yea_o b_o he_o make_v his_o soul_n sin_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o that_o c_o the_o lord_n lay_v upon_o he_o or_o inflict_v upon_o he_o the_o iniquity_n of_o we_o all_o 8.3_o 〈◊〉_d 53_o 10._o 〈◊〉_d 6.5.10_o â—rem_fw-la in_o 〈◊〉_d 8._o 〈◊〉_d 4_o 28._o â—â—m_fw-la 8.3_o yea_o d_o the_o lord_n delight_v to_o bruise_v he_o and_o afflict_v he_o or_o slay_v he_o and_o the_o apostle_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o e_o both_o the_o counsel_n and_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n be_v in_o christ_n punishment_n final_o f_o god_n send_v his_o son_n in_o the_o similitude_n of_o sinful_a flesh_n and_o for_o sin_n â—â—iac_n â—â—iac_n condemn_a sin_n in_o *_o his_o flesh_n his_o condemn_v of_o sin_n in_o christ_n be_v in_o deed_n and_o not_o in_o word_n god_n own_o hand_n than_o do_v smite_v christ_n and_o inflict_v on_o he_o whatsoever_o he_o suffer_v as_o the_o condemnation_n of_o sin_n where_o yet_o we_o imagine_v not_o that_o god_n be_v move_v with_o any_o affection_n or_o perturbation_n 245._o â—â—g_v 245._o but_o as_o f_z you_o acknowledge_v the_o punishment_n or_o dayn_v for_o sin_n by_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n and_o inflict_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n whatsoever_o mean_v it_o please_v he_o to_o use_v be_v call_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o then_o how_o may_v we_o think_v god_n infinite_a justice_n &_o power_n punish_v christ_n sure_o in_o all_o such_o respect_n as_o he_o be_v capable_a of_o pain_n and_o punishment_n as_o from_o god_n wherefore_o in_o his_o spirit_n certain_o he_o suffer_v spiritual_a and_o incomprehensible_a punishment_n be_v no_o sin_n such_o as_o man_n soul_n be_v subject_a unto_o as_o from_o god_n in_o his_o body_n also_o he_o feel_v bodily_a affliction_n which_o our_o body_n can_v apprehend_v some_o god_n himself_o immediate_o inflict_v some_o he_o inflict_v by_o mean_n and_o instrument_n but_o still_o it_o be_v his_o hand_n principal_o which_o do_v what_o soever_o be_v do_v unto_o he_o neither_o can_v you_o say_v that_o christ_n punishment_n be_v god_n mere_a and_o bare_a permission_n only_o nay_o his_o punishment_n be_v his_o reveal_v and_o write_v will_n his_o express_a and_o public_a ordinance_n and_o most_o holy_a appointment_n from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n and_o now_o at_o last_o effect_v by_o his_o own_o hand_n and_o by_o other_o mean_n when_o the_o fullness_n of_o time_n be_v come_v wherefore_o the_o whole_a suffering_n of_o christ_n be_v god_n own_o and_o most_o proper_a action_n the_o wicked_a jew_n and_o devil_n be_v only_o his_o instrument_n to_o do_v that_o which_o he_o set_v they_o on_o work_n to_o do_v though_o they_o think_v not_o so_o now_o we_o come_v to_o answer_v you_o more_o direct_o touch_v the_o text_n in_o hand_n where_o you_o will_v intimate_v that_o christ_n on_o the_o cross_n be_v not_o tempt_v by_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n because_o
experience_n of_o they_o this_o same_o also_o sundry_a of_o the_o father_n avouch_v with_o we_o most_o full_o and_o even_o those_o which_o yourself_o bring_v for_o a_o yourself_o 25._o pag._n 25._o cyrills_n word_n before_o touch_v be_v most_o large_a 10.3_o cyrill_n theâ—â—ur_fw-fr 10.3_o omnia_fw-la christus_fw-la perpessus_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la liberaret_fw-la christ_n thorough_o suffer_v all_o such_o passion_n which_o man_n do_v suffer_v that_o he_o may_v deliver_v we_o from_o all_o â—ature_n humane_a â—ature_n all_o the_o passion_n of_o †_o flesh_n be_v stir_v in_o christ_n yet_o without_o sin_n and_o so_o that_o unless_o he_o have_v dye_v we_o have_v not_o be_v deliver_v from_o death_n unless_o he_o have_v fear_v and_o sorrow_v we_o have_v not_o be_v quit_v from_o fear_n and_o sorrow_n here_o he_o say_v all_o our_o passion_n be_v stir_v in_o christ_n humane_a nature_n even_o so_o far_o as_o we_o be_v cure_v and_o so_o far_o as_o may_v be_v without_o sin_n in_o he_o then_o i_o hope_v by_o cyrills_n judgement_n the_o sense_n of_o the_o true_a curse_n and_o proper_a wrath_n of_o god_n for_o sin_n be_v in_o christ_n soul_n so_o fair_a as_o it_o may_v be_v painful_a and_o not_o sinful_a see_v man_n be_v subject_a to_o this_o suffering_n as_o the_o most_o sharp_a among_o other_o last_o by_o cyrill_n here_o we_o see_v that_o unless_o christ_n have_v feel_v the_o same_o suffering_n which_o we_o feel_v and_o be_v cure_v of_o we_o have_v not_o be_v deliver_v of_o they_o this_o also_o i_o be_o sure_a fit_v not_o your_o opinion_n that_o one_o drop_n of_o christ_n blood_n be_v sufficient_a for_o our_o whole_a redemption_n which_o be_v one_o of_o your_o principle_n in_o your_o preach_n but_o in_o your_o book_n you_o skip_v it_o clean_o i_o know_v not_o how_o 26._o â—ag_n 25._o 26._o next_o we_o may_v see_v that_o c_o your_o place_n of_o d_o ambrosâ—_n be_v also_o full_o to_o the_o same_o effect_n â—â—_o luc._n the_o â—â—tic_a dol_n â—â—_o a_o little_a after_o his_o e_z former_a word_n he_o say_v the_o joy_n of_o the_o eternal_a godhead_n be_v part_v away_o from_o he_o christ_n be_v affect_v with_o the_o redioâ—snes_n of_o my_o infirmity_n 48_o â—â—fore_o pa._n 48_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o my_o sorrow_n that_o he_o may_v give_v i_o his_o joy_n and_o he_o abase_v himself_o to_o the_o sorrow_n of_o death_n in_o our_o manner_n that_o by_o the_o same_o mean_n in_o he_o he_o may_v bring_v we_o to_o life_n he_o ought_v therefore_o to_o take_v sorrow_n that_o he_o may_v overcome_v sorrow_n and_o not_o exempt_v himself_o from_o it_o &_o that_o we_o may_v learn_v in_o christ_n to_o overcome_v the_o sorrow_n of_o death_n approach_v wherefore_o christ_n exempt_v himself_o from_o nothing_o in_o his_o passion_n that_o we_o have_v experience_n of_o as_o touch_v pain_n and_o sorrow_n and_o by_o the_o same_o suffering_n in_o himself_o for_o we_o he_o heal_v we_o whereunto_o we_o be_v subject_a by_o reason_n of_o sin_n so_o that_o thus_o in_o his_o agony_n he_o wrought_v with_o a_o deep_a effect_n that_o because_o in_o his_o flesh_n he_o kill_v our_o sin_n he_o may_v also_o with_o the_o sorrow_n of_o his_o soul_n extinguish_v the_o sorrow_n of_o our_o soul_n to_o this_o very_a purpose_n also_o jerom._n also_o pag._n 47_o 4â—_n naâ—â—anz_n fulgent_n barnard_n tertull._n jerom._n many_o other_o before_o rehearse_v do_v affirm_v most_o full_o neither_o be_v this_o take_n of_o their_o sentence_n any_o whit_n to_o abuse_v the_o father_n which_o you_o 86._o you_o pag._n 86._o be_v afraid_a of_o you_o great_o abuse_v they_o which_o take_v they_o otherwise_o namely_o as_o if_o they_o mean_v that_o by_o the_o flesh_n and_o bloodshed_n of_o christ_n mere_o &_o alone_o without_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o mind_n proper_a suffering_n our_o whole_a ransom_n be_v pay_v as_o for_o our_o compare_v the_o pain_n of_o christ_n suffering_n with_o the_o pain_n even_o of_o the_o reprobat_n in_o this_o life_n i_o see_v not_o that_o you_o nor_o any_o man_n live_v can_v find_v fault_n therewith_o only_o set_v aside_o their_o sinful_a suffering_n which_o always_o i_o testify_v that_o christ_n be_v most_o free_a from_o yea_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o we_o may_v compare_v christ_n suffering_n in_o his_o agony_n touch_v vehemency_n of_o pain_n even_o with_o those_o of_o the_o damn_a in_o hell_n damn_v what_o the_o oâ—_n be_v between_o christ_n suffer_v &_o 〈◊〉_d damn_v only_o i_o conceive_v between_o christ_n and_o they_o this_o odds_o 1_o they_o suffer_v sinful_o 2_o perpetual_o 3_o local_o in_o hell_n all_o which_o be_v except_v otherwise_o christ_n suffer_v altogether_o as_o bitter_o &_o as_o sharp_o yea_o i_o may_v say_v in_o nature_n the_o very_a same_o as_o the_o damn_a do_v which_o therefore_o may_v well_o be_v call_v the_o pain_n of_o hell_n although_o yet_o hell_n indeed_o do_v differ_v in_o some_o great_a and_o weighty_a circumstance_n as_o be_v aforesaid_a if_o you_o say_v the_o extreme_a pain_n of_o punishment_n can_v be_v where_o sin_n be_v not_o that_o be_v true_a neither_o in_o deed_n can_v the_o least_o pain_n be_v where_o there_o be_v no_o sin_n and_o that_o no_o more_o in_o the_o body_n then_o in_o the_o soul_n though_o this_o please_v not_o you_o mark_v what_o i_o say_v the_o extreme_a pain_n of_o all_o may_v as_o possible_o be_v inflict_v where_o no_o sin_n be_v as_o the_o very_a lest_o &_o that_o as_o well_o in_o the_o spirit_n as_o in_o the_o body_n but_o in_o truth_n neither_o the_o one_o nor_o the_o other_o be_v possible_a neither_o the_o great_a nor_o the_o least_o pain_n of_o god_n proper_a vengeance_n for_o sin_n can_v be_v inflict_v or_o suffer_v at_o all_o in_o soul_n or_o in_o body_n but_o only_o where_o sin_n be_v that_o be_v to_o say_v either_o impute_v or_o inhaerent_a ordinary_o the_o reprobat_fw-la be_v thus_o punish_v where_o sin_n be_v inhaerent_a extraordinary_o and_o singular_o by_o god_n own_o special_a ordinance_n christ_n be_v even_o thus_o punish_v yet_o where_o sin_n be_v but_o impute_v and_o thus_o therefore_o christ_n soul_n for_o mere_a pain_n may_v suffer_v the_o extreme_a spiritual_a punishment_n altogether_o as_o well_o as_o his_o body_n may_v suffer_v any_o at_o all_o without_o inhaerent_a sin_n but_o you_o grant_v his_o body_n suffer_v true_o punishment_n for_o sin_n therefore_o his_o soul_n may_v suffer_v also_o even_o those_o of_o the_o extreme_a degree_n your_o 14._o your_o see_v beâ—â—â—_n pag._n 14._o self_n also_o grant_v that_o christ_n both_o might_n and_o do_v suffer_v the_o extreme_a pain_n that_o may_v be_v without_o his_o own_o sin_n but_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o he_o to_o conceive_v and_o feel_v in_o his_o a_o mind_n far_o great_a sorrow_n and_o pain_n for_o our_o sin_n from_o god_n wrath_n 26._o â—at_a â—_o 〈◊〉_d 26._o than_o he_o can_v feel_v mere_o in_o his_o body_n outward_o and_o the_o great_a be_v no_o more_o sin_n than_o the_o least_o though_o both_o be_v proper_o for_o sin_n therefore_o by_o your_o own_o grant_n christ_n may_v and_o do_v feel_v and_o endure_v the_o great_a sorrow_n of_o the_o mind_n and_o soul_n as_o well_o as_o the_o lesser_a in_o the_o body_n be_v all_o the_o very_a effect_n of_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n against_o sin_n 102._o â—ag_n 102._o b_o you_o bring_v a_o reason_n against_o this_o that_o god_n spiritual_o punish_v no_o man_n but_o for_o his_o own_o uncleanness_n which_o be_v a_o thing_n mere_o untrue_a for_o though_o no_o other_o man_n be_v ever_o punish_v without_o his_o own_o uncleanness_n neither_o spiritual_o nor_o corporal_o yet_o christ_n our_o saviour_n be_v who_o in_o this_o case_n be_v not_o in_o the_o ordinary_a state_n of_o man_n but_o i_o pray_v show_v i_o this_o mystery_n how_o it_o be_v that_o god_n can_v punish_v spiritual_o where_o there_o be_v no_o inhaerent_a sin_n but_o can_v and_o may_v corporal_o where_o there_o be_v none_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o assertion_n c_o hear_v be_v altogether_o of_o this_o suit_n 94._o â—a_n 101_o 102_o â—03_n 105._o â—66_n 94._o by_o this_o one_o reason_n i_o weaken_v all_o you_o but_o you_o can_v pass_v that_o by_o 43._o to_o this_o effect_n treat_n 1_o â—ag_n 41_o 43._o answer_v unto_o it_o not_o a_o word_n viz_n do_v if_o christ_n body_n hang_v on_o the_o cross_n and_o hold_v by_o death_n in_o the_o grave_n be_v punish_v by_o god_n where_o yet_o he_o find_v no_o sin_n and_o which_o he_o still_o entire_o love_v and_o be_v never_o separate_v from_o then_o so_o he_o may_v &_o do_v punish_v proper_o his_o soul_n also_o &_o yet_o never_o divide_v his_o godhead_n nor_o his_o love_n from_o it_o but_o thus_o he_o do_v to_o his_o body_n therefore_o even_o so_o he_o may_v do_v and_o do_v to_o his_o
same_o he_o be_v crucify_v touch_v his_o infirmity_n but_o live_v by_o the_o power_n of_o god_n his_o infirmity_n the_o text_n here_o name_v metonimical_o understand_v in_o christ_n that_o in_o which_o his_o infirmity_n be_v now_o his_o soul_n have_v infirmity_n of_o suffer_v in_o it_o as_o well_o as_o his_o body_n therefore_o his_o soul_n also_o be_v understand_v here_o that_o it_o be_v crucify_a and_o dye_v that_o be_v according_a to_o the_o condition_n thereof_o as_o likewise_o his_o body_n according_a to_o the_o condition_n thereof_o and_o thus_o that_o which_o paul_n call_v infirmity_n peter_n call_v flesh_n and_o that_o which_o paul_n call_v the_o power_n of_o god_n peter_n call_v the_o spirit_n that_o be_v his_o deity_n be_v set_v opposit_o in_o both_o these_o place_n to_o his_o whole_a humanity_n even_o to_o body_n and_o soul_n 4.13_o aug._n the_o 4.13_o to_o which_o purpose_n that_o place_n also_o to_o the_o rom._n the_o rom._n roman_n do_v serve_v where_o the_o like_a opposition_n be_v find_v as_o i_o have_v show_v between_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n in_o christ_n that_o be_v his_o manhood_n and_o godhead_n other_o reason_n also_o 1â—_n also_o treat_v 137_o 1â—_n i_o have_v note_v serve_v well_o hereunto_o as_o the_o 4_o 5_o and_o 6._o but_o i_o omit_v to_o rehearse_v they_o again_o for_o it_o seem_v yourself_o agree_v with_o we_o in_o they_o 324._o â—â—g_v 324._o hold_v a_o express_o that_o the_o spirit_n here_o in_o peter_n be_v the_o deity_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o augustine_n judgement_n now_o this_o be_v grant_v and_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o spirit_n here_o signify_v christ_n godhead_n how_o can_v it_o be_v likely_a but_o that_o the_o other_o opposite_a part_n the_o flesh_n must_v needs_o import_v his_o whole_a and_o entire_a manhood_n very_o thus_o it_o seem_v most_o plain_a that_o peter_n here_o distribute_v the_o whole_a and_o absolute_a person_n both_o god_n and_o man_n into_o these_o nature_n the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n wherefore_o i_o can_v not_o think_v but_o that_o the_o apostle_n here_o understand_v by_o flesh_n the_o whole_a and_o entire_a manhood_n of_o christ_n even_o his_o soul_n and_o his_o body_n now_o this_o be_v so_o than_o it_o follow_v by_o the_o text_n that_o christ_n in_o his_o passion_n be_v do_v to_o death_n both_o in_o soul_n 320._o pag._n 320._o &_o body_n here_n you_o object_n that_o thus_o i_o make_v all_o the_o attribute_n of_o the_o body_n common_a to_o the_o soul_n nay_o forsooth_o that_o i_o do_v not_o nor_o yet_o this_o attribute_n of_o die_v understand_v in_o such_o sort_n and_o manner_n as_o the_o body_n proper_o die_v that_o be_v to_o become_v without_o life_n and_o sense_n i_o ascribe_v death_n to_o both_o but_o yet_o according_a to_o the_o divers_a condition_n and_o state_n of_o both_o 78._o â—reat_a 1._o pâ—g_v 78._o and_o thus_o you_o may_v understand_v my_o b_o meaning_n to_o be_v where_o i_o say_v it_o be_v absurd_a &_o false_a that_o christ_n be_v make_v alive_a in_o his_o humane_a soul_n that_o be_v it_o neither_o lose_v nor_o recover_v life_n and_o sense_n so_o as_o his_o body_n do_v 136_o â—â—â—e_z before_o 〈◊〉_d 135_o 136_o howbeit_o as_o death_n be_v oftentimes_o attribute_v to_o man_n soul_n in_o the_o c_o scripture_n that_o be_v the_o feel_n of_o the_o extreme_a wrath_n of_o god_n and_o the_o punishment_n for_o sin_n so_o do_v i_o make_v death_n common_a both_o to_o christ_n soul_n and_o body_n 79._o â—â—eat_a 1._o â—â—g_n 79._o even_o to_o his_o whole_a and_o entire_a humane_a nature_n which_o if_o you_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o shame_n of_o ab_fw-la surditirie_n and_o contrariety_n which_o in_o your_o fancy_n e_o you_o accuse_v i_o of_o that_o christ_n soul_n die_v and_o die_v not_o â—â—3_n â—â—g_v 322._o â—â—3_n will_v sit_v near_o to_o you_o they_o to_o i_o also_o in_o such_o a_o sense_n i_o deny_v not_o but_o christ_n may_v be_v say_v that_o he_o be_v quicken_v in_o the_o spirit_n that_o be_v refresh_v and_o comfort_v again_o in_o his_o soul_n and_o restore_v from_o that_o bottomless_a gulf_n of_o sorrow_n to_o the_o lively_a feel_n of_o heavenly_a joy_n and_o glory_n which_o for_o a_o season_n he_o have_v no_o sense_n of_o at_o all_o howbeit_o though_o this_o sense_n be_v a_o true_a quicken_n in_o his_o soul_n yet_o i_o deny_v that_o here_o in_o this_o place_n of_o peter_n it_o can_v be_v translate_v quicken_v in_o the_o spirit_n mean_v the_o soul_n because_o spirit_n here_o in_o this_o opposition_n be_v set_v indeed_o for_o the_o deity_n of_o christ_n â—â—sent_a â—â—â—d_v you_o with_o â—â—â—stin_a do_v â—â—sent_a *_o as_o before_o i_o have_v show_v thus_o the_o matter_n i_o hope_n be_v clear_a to_o reasonable_a man_n that_o christ_n soul_n even_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n phrase_n may_v be_v say_v in_o some_o sort_n to_o have_v taste_v and_o suffer_v death_n that_o be_v the_o extreme_a feeling_n of_o god_n wrath_n for_o sin_n and_o the_o most_o vehement_a pain_n of_o the_o damn_a though_o not_o as_o the_o damn_a do_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o accident_n and_o concomitant_n of_o their_o ordinary_a damnation_n but_o in_o a_o singular_a manner_n and_o extraordinary_a way_n as_o become_v the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o a_o sinless_a man_n yet_o a_o very_a man_n be_v our_o redeemer_n now_o beside_o the_o matter_n you_o 3_o you_o pag._n 3_o gird_v at_o i_o in_o divers_a place_n as_o where_o i_o say_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v such_o pain_n and_o suffering_n of_o god_n wrath_n as_o always_o accompany_v they_o that_o be_v separate_v from_o the_o grace_n and_o love_n of_o god_n forsooth_o it_o be_v true_a they_o be_v always_o wicked_a who_o these_o pain_n do_v accompany_v ordinary_o they_o come_v upon_o christ_n extraordinarilie_o as_o in_o 77._o in_o treat_n â—_o pag._n 77._o this_o place_n i_o express_o note_v that_o be_v therefore_o my_o meaning_n here_o if_o you_o will_v have_v see_v it_o in_o another_o place_n also_o 33._o also_o pag._n 33._o you_o know_v that_o i_o say_v hell_n as_o i_o take_v it_o that_o be_v such_o pain_n of_o god_n wrath_n be_v 80._o be_v treat_n 1_o pag._n 80._o sometime_o find_v in_o this_o life_n thus_o than_o you_o may_v have_v understand_v my_o former_a word_n and_o not_o that_o the_o torment_n of_o hell_n do_v always_o accompany_v the_o wicked_a in_o this_o life_n i_o pray_v conceive_v not_o my_o meaning_n against_o my_o express_a word_n again_o 31â—_n again_o pag_n 31â—_n you_o pretend_v to_o have_v much_o against_o i_o where_o i_o say_v the_o feel_n of_o the_o sorrow_n of_o god_n wrath_n due_a to_o sin_n in_o a_o break_a and_o contrite_a heart_n be_v indeed_o the_o only_a true_a and_o perfect_o accept_v sacrifice_n to_o god_n true_a so_o i_o say_v and_o again_o i_o say_v it_o what_o see_v you_o amiss_o in_o it_o then_o unhappy_a man_n be_v the_o godly_a which_o be_v at_o any_o time_n free_a from_o the_o pain_n of_o the_o damn_a to_o what_o purpose_n be_v this_o i_o speak_v of_o christ_n sacrifice_n i_o pray_v be_v any_o other_o sacrifice_n perfect_o accept_v or_o a_o sacrifice_n at_o all_o but_o secondary_o that_o be_v in_o and_o by_o christ_n sacrifice_n they_o be_v not_o his_o sacrifice_n then_o be_v the_o only_a true_a sacrifice_n and_o perfect_o accept_v to_o god_n all_o other_o be_v imperfect_a and_o accept_v not_o in_o themselves_o but_o only_o in_o and_o by_o christ_n thus_o your_o triumph_n before_o the_o victory_n come_v to_o nothing_o but_o blast_n of_o vanity_n but_o augustin_n 32_o augustin_n pag._n 32_o do_v flat_o deny_v that_o this_o text_n can_v be_v thus_o understand_v or_o that_o christ_n soul_n may_v die_v austin_n 9â—_n austin_n epist_n 9â—_n deny_v that_o christ_n suffer_v any_o pain_n of_o damnation_n local_o in_o hell_n after_o his_o death_n as_o it_o seem_v some_o hold_v about_o his_o time_n who_o here_o he_o labour_v to_o confute_v so_o that_o he_o mean_v to_o reprove_v only_o the_o 139_o the_o see_v besâ—â—â—_n pag_n 139_o 1_o sense_n of_o the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n in_o he_o viz._n that_o he_o suffer_v it_o not_o ordinary_o after_o the_o manner_n of_o other_o man_n nor_o any_o way_n local_o hâ—_n have_v no_o necessary_a cause_n to_o speak_v of_o the_o 2._o sense_n thereof_o how_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v say_v to_o suffer_v death_n extraordinary_o for_o sin_n impute_v only_o neither_o do_v he_o speak_v against_o that_o in_o christ_n nay_o according_a to_o augustine_n own_o definition_n of_o the_o soul_n die_v it_o will_v easy_o appear_v that_o christ_n soul_n may_v be_v say_v to_o have_v suffer_v some_o kind_n of_o death_n 4._o de_fw-fr verh_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d ser_n â—0_n 〈◊〉_d trin._n 4._o say_v he_o a_o moritur_fw-la anima_fw-la si_fw-la recedit_fw-la deus_fw-la and_o b_o mors_fw-la est_fw-la spiritûs_fw-la deseri_fw-la à _fw-la
now_o in_o hell_n see_v you_o seem_v to_o believe_v no_o torment_n for_o damn_a soul_n save_v only_o at_o the_o resurrection_n for_o thus_o you_o reason_n 25_o reason_n pag._n 25_o as_o the_o body_n have_v be_v the_o instrument_n of_o the_o soul_n pleasure_n in_o sin_n so_o it_o shall_v be_v of_o her_o pain_n 20â—_n pain_n pag._n 20â—_n but_o all_o provocation_n and_o pleasure_n of_o sin_n the_o soul_n take_v from_o her_o body_n all_o act_n of_o sin_n she_o commit_v by_o her_o body_n therefore_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n both_o temporal_o and_o eternal_o punish_v the_o soul_n only_o by_o the_o body_n or_o therefore_o all_o the_o soul_n pain_n for_o sin_n both_o temporal_o &_o eternal_o be_v by_o the_o body_n this_o be_v your_o own_o reason_n which_o be_v true_a why_o shall_v you_o care_v for_o corporal_a fire_n in_o hell_n before_o the_o last_o judgement_n your_o strive_v to_o 34â—_n to_o pag._n 34â—_n confute_v my_o allegation_n of_o father_n i_o hope_v i_o have_v refute_v sufficient_o before_o and_o then_o 35_o then_o pag._n 35_o sir_n refuter_fw-la end_v as_o be_v begin_v with_o egregious_a lie_n what_o lie_v begin_v he_o with_o and_o with_o what_o do_v he_o end_v in_o the_o begin_n our_o lie_n have_v prove_v tale_n of_o truth_n and_o in_o the_o end_n your_o word_n will_v prove_v injurious_a at_o least_o i_o say_v that_o not_o some_o or_o the_o most_o or_o best_a but_o even_o all_o &_o every_o one_o both_o church_n &_o writer_n in_o the_o world_n who_o be_v protestant_n teach_v as_o we_o do_v except_o only_o yourself_o or_o happy_o some_o after_o you_o since_o the_o year_n 1597._o what_o lie_n be_v there_o in_o all_o this_o why_o name_v you_o not_o in_o all_o the_o world_n one_o man_n of_o those_o who_o we_o call_v protestant_n of_o your_o mind_n that_o it_o may_v appear_v who_o deserve_v such_o rebuke_n nay_o in_o this_o be_v the_o very_a point_n of_o the_o matter_n you_o be_v silent_a in_o revile_n outcry_n and_o accusation_n you_o exceed_v where_o i_o avouch_v that_o 8â—_n that_o treat_n â—_o pag_n 8â—_n only_o the_o hot_a and_o cunning_a papist_n jesuit_n priest_n &_o friar_n have_v always_o until_o this_o day_n have_v this_o controversy_n with_o all_o protestant_n and_o all_o protestant_n against_o they_o &_o namely_o bellarmin_n campian_n english_a rhemist_n etc._n etc._n to_o all_o this_o scanalous_a &_o suspicious_a argument_n you_o reply_v not_o a_o syllable_n what_o shall_v we_o think_v of_o such_o doctrine_n which_o in_o this_o learned_a age_n have_v none_o but_o such_o defender_n and_o yet_o among_o the_o papist_n i_o note_v 2_o cusanus_fw-la and_o ferus_fw-la as_o like_v of_o the_o protestant_n doctrine_n herein_o which_o also_o they_o do_v in_o some_o other_o matter_n now_o these_o 2._o and_o only_o these_o though_o more_o there_o be_v c_o you_o cite_v at_o large_a 140.141_o 〈◊〉_d 140.141_o who_o word_n indeed_o especial_o the_o friar_n seem_v excessive_a but_o our_o own_o most_o worthy_a and_o learned_a teacher_n d_o m._n fulke_o 88_o â—rea_fw-la 1._o p._n 88_o m._n deering_n m._n whitaker_n which_o against_o you_o i_o allege_v you_o vouchsafe_v not_o a_o look_n towards_o they_o nor_o to_o m._n nowel_n catechism_n nor_o to_o the_o synod_n authorise_v it_o 42._o â—efore_o pag._n 42._o nor_o to_o the_o archb_n great_a *_o approbation_n thereof_o not_o to_o our_o common_a bible_n note_n authorize_v public_o to_o be_v read_v through_o out_o england_n only_o against_o my_o allege_v of_o our_o homily_n e_o you_o take_v exception_n 355._o pag_n 355._o but_o i_o trust_v i_o have_v before_o full_o and_o clear_o defend_v they_o to_o be_v for_o we_o and_o against_o you_o neither_o do_v any_o such_o matter_n appear_v in_o they_o as_o f_o you_o avouch_v 136._o pag._n 136._o thus_o than_o i_o end_v our_o 1._o question_n be_v sorry_a that_o i_o have_v be_v so_o long_o but_o i_o trust_v the_o friendly_a reader_n will_v pardon_v i_o consider_v how_o i_o have_v be_v occasion_v thereunto_o a_o brief_a collection_n contain_v the_o whole_a effect_n of_o our_o doctrine_n before_o deliver_v bring_v into_o 4._o assertion_n god_n himself_o in_o his_o justice_n proper_o punish_v christ_n for_o our_o sin_n see_v pag._n 8._o 9_o 75._o 82._o christ_n even_o as_o other_o man_n consist_v of_o a_o perfect_a humane_a immortal_a spirit_n and_o a_o mortal_a live_a body_n and_o so_o be_v by_o nature_n capable_a of_o suffer_v sorrow_n for_o sin_n from_o god_n hand_n aswell_o in_o his_o spirit_n peculiarly_a and_o proper_o as_o also_o in_o his_o soul_n and_o body_n together_o since_o other_o man_n do_v thus_o suffer_v for_o sin_n pag._n 8._o 48_o 52._o 61._o 74._o god_n exact_a and_o immutable_a justice_n spare_v his_o son_n in_o nothing_o but_o do_v punish_v he_o in_o all_o severity_n as_o he_o punish_v sinner_n i_o mean_v he_o punish_v he_o in_o all_o his_o part_n of_o nature_n apt_a to_o suffer_v that_o be_v in_o his_o spirit_n peculiarly_a and_o proper_o and_o in_o his_o soul_n and_o body_n together_o also_o again_o god_n punish_v he_o with_o all_o the_o whole_a general_n curse_v not_o with_o all_o the_o particular_a curse_n and_o punishment_n with_o the_o general_n curse_v in_o all_o the_o whole_a nature_n and_o substance_n of_o it_o not_o with_o all_o the_o circumstance_n with_o all_o the_o mere_a pain_n and_o sorrow_n thereof_o not_o with_o the_o sinful_a adherent_n and_o concomitant_n in_o it_o pag._n 8_o 13_o 74_o 86._o god_n exact_a &_o immutable_a justice_n spare_v not_o christ_n in_o these_o circumstance_n of_o punishment_n with_o he_o suffer_v not_o for_o either_o in_o exact_a justice_n he_o can_v not_o or_o necessary_o he_o need_v not_o to_o punish_v he_o so_o in_o exact_a justice_n he_o can_v not_o punish_v christ_n in_o such_o respect_n as_o be_v simple_o and_o absolute_o impossible_a it_o be_v simple_o impossible_a that_o any_o touch_n of_o sin_n shall_v once_o come_v near_o his_o person_n or_o eternal_a suffering_n or_o all_o the_o particular_a punishment_n in_o the_o world_n all_o which_o come_v not_o to_o any_o one_o man_n though_o damn_v neither_o can_v come_v final_o that_o christ_n shall_v necessary_o have_v suffer_v after_o this_o life_n or_o local_o in_o hell_n there_o be_v no_o cause_n see_v these_o be_v but_o meer_v circumstance_n of_o god_n just_a punishment_n of_o sin_n whether_o now_o or_o then_o whether_o here_o or_o there_o these_o alter_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o god_n wrath_n which_o be_v the_o strength_n of_o hell_n the_o whole_a substance_n &_o nature_n of_o that_o punishment_n he_o may_v feel_v in_o this_o life_n aswell_o as_o any_o part_n god_n be_v able_a to_o inflict_v it_o aswell_o here_o as_o hereafter_o the_o rather_o see_v christ_n come_v and_o be_v send_v of_o god_n extraordinary_o of_o purpose_n to_o suffer_v for_o sin_n all_o that_o he_o may_v suffer_v thus_o then_o only_o in_o this_o life_n christ_n may_v and_o do_v suffer_v all_o for_o so_o be_v god_n ordinance_n and_o will_n as_o it_o be_v plain_o express_v unto_o we_o in_o his_o word_n therefore_o so_o we_o profess_v and_o so_o we_o believe_v by_o the_o certain_a rule_n of_o god_n word_n and_o the_o proportion_n of_o faith_n christ_n shun_v for_o our_o sake_n nothing_o which_o the_o damn_a suffer_v except_o only_a circumstance_n and_o accident_n impossible_a or_o unnecessary_a not_o any_o substantial_a point_n of_o god_n punishment_n decree_v against_o sinew_n pag_n 13._o 14._o 16._o 43._o 66._o 75._o 87._o 134._o 135._o that_o christ_n after_o his_o death_n on_o the_o cross_n go_v not_o down_o into_o hell_n in_o his_o soul_n the_o 2._o part_n of_o our_o controversy_n be_v this_o that_o christ_n after_o his_o death_n on_o the_o cross_n go_v not_o down_o into_o hell_n in_o his_o soul_n where_o note_n first_o notes_n notes_n that_o we_o understand_v hell_n proper_o and_o local_o as_o our_o common_a speech_n in_o english_a do_v usual_o take_v it_o for_o the_o very_a place_n of_o the_o damn_a after_o this_o life_n now_o against_o they_o that_o believe_v christ_n soul_n do_v go_v down_o local_o into_o hell_n thus_o i_o reason_n hell_n reason_n against_o châ—â—_n descend_v local_o be_v hell_n first_o if_o there_o be_v a_o good_a and_o sound_a general_a reason_n in_o christian_a faith_n that_o christ_n soul_n leave_v his_o body_n ascend_v up_o to_o heaven_n and_o there_o remain_v till_o his_o resurrection_n and_o if_o there_o be_v no_o special_a reason_n of_o authority_n to_o the_o contrary_a that_o his_o soul_n now_o descend_v downward_o then_o sure_o every_o good_a christian_n ought_v to_o believe_v that_o his_o soul_n ascend_v to_o heaven_n and_o descend_v not_o local_o into_o hell_n note_a two_o maâ—â—_n point_n to_o note_a but_o both_o those_o former_a point_n be_v most_o true_a first_o there_o be_v a_o good_a sound_n general_a reason_n in_o christian_a
his_o soul_n and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o de_fw-fr incaâ—â—_n sacr._n cap._n 〈◊〉_d hoc_fw-la in_o se_fw-la obtulit_fw-la christus_fw-la quod_fw-la induit_fw-la etc._n etc._n christ_n offer_v in_o sacrifice_n all_o that_o which_o he_o assume_v that_o be_v all_o &_o every_o whit_n that_o be_v in_o he_o beside_o his_o godhead_n 3._o godhead_n fulgent_n 〈◊〉_d thrasym_a 〈◊〉_d lib._n 3._o fulgentius_n he_o show_v in_o himself_o the_o suffering_n of_o a_o whole_a man_n in_o verity_n &_o truth_n quicquid_fw-la fuit_fw-la infirmitatis_fw-la animae_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la suscepit_fw-la &_o pertulit_fw-la he_o take_v upon_o he_o and_o suffer_v whatsoever_o infirmity_n may_v be_v in_o the_o soul_n without_o sin_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o we_o ourselves_o shall_v speak_v a_o more_o effectual_a sentence_n for_o our_o purpose_n then_o this_o be_v say_v as_o fulgentius_n here_o say_v and_o we_o ask_v no_o more_o all_o that_o 86._o that_o pag._n 86._o you_o except_v that_o by_o these_o father_n christ_n die_v only_o the_o death_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v less_o than_o here_o they_o affirm_v and_o we_o shall_v answer_v to_o that_o in_o due_a place_n now_o mark_v well_o how_o these_o father_n do_v not_o say_v that_o christ_n give_v his_o life_n for_o a_o ransom_n only_o as_o â—â—_o as_o pag._n 70._o â—â—_o you_o will_v construe_v it_o but_o even_o his_o very_a soul_n to_o for_o our_o soul_n they_o strive_v to_o express_v a_o exact_a proportion_n so_o far_o as_o be_v possible_a between_o christ_n and_o us._n first_o in_o the_o part_n of_o christ_n who_o suffer_v &_o of_o we_o who_o be_v save_v so_o that_o as_o we_o be_v save_v not_o in_o our_o body_n only_o nor_o only_o in_o the_o external_a sensitive_a part_n of_o our_o soul_n wherein_o stand_v that_o suffering_n with_o and_o by_o our_o body_n but_o we_o be_v save_v redeem_v and_o sanctify_v in_o our_o whole_a spirit_n and_o understanding_n also_o even_o so_o by_o their_o verdict_n christ_n suffer_v for_o we_o not_o the_o bodily_a and_o outward_a suffering_n by_o sympathy_n only_o but_o he_o suffer_v for_o we_o even_o in_o his_o mind_n also_o now_o this_o be_v direct_o against_o your_o present_n a_o assertion_n which_o we_o have_v in_o hand_n 14_o 〈◊〉_d 132.240_o â—eere_o p._n 14_o also_o here_o they_o observe_v a_o exact_a proportion_n in_o the_o object_n so_o far_o as_o be_v possible_a viz_n in_o that_o which_o he_o suffer_v for_o we_o &_o that_o which_o we_o be_v save_v from_o thereby_o thus_o that_o sorrow_n of_o the_o immortal_a part_n of_o the_o soul_n &_o not_o of_o body_n only_o which_o we_o be_v save_v from_o the_o same_o he_o suffer_v yea_o i_o say_v all_o and_o every_o whit_n of_o those_o passion_n &_o sorrow_n whereunto_o man_n nature_n be_v b_o subject_n and_o capable_a of_o etc._n 〈◊〉_d nature_n we_o â—â—e_v subject_a to_o â—â—fer_v in_o the_o â—â—nde_n proper_o for_o sin_n â—nd_v not_o only_o â—y_a sympathy_n â—rom_o the_o body_n cyrill_n thesâ—â—ur_fw-fr 10_o 3_o barnard_n de_fw-fr â—ass_n dom._n â—ap_n 41._o pag._n 7._o terâ—ul_a scout_v prax._n ambiguity_n in_o luc._n 2._o de_fw-fr trist_n â—olor_n etc._n etc._n and_o from_o which_o we_o be_v save_v all_o the_o same_o he_o taste_v and_o suffer_v for_o us._n thus_o it_o be_v also_o that_o cyrill_n elsewhere_o say_v c_o omnia_fw-la perpessus_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la liberaret_fw-la he_o suffer_v all_o thing_n thorough_o that_o he_o may_v acquit_v we_o from_o all_o which_o else_o we_o shall_v have_v suffer_v and_o thus_o i_o take_v barnard_n meaning_n to_o be_v d_o he_o spare_v not_o himself_o who_o know_v how_o to_o spare_v he_o whereupon_o you_o collect_v well_o if_o you_o mean_v so_o e_fw-it he_o suffer_v and_o endure_v all_o to_o the_o uttermost_a with_o exact_a obedience_n and_o patience_n to_o which_o end_n tertullian_n also_o f_z sic_fw-la reliquit_fw-la dum_fw-la non_fw-la parcit_fw-la this_o be_v god_n forsake_v of_o he_o in_o his_o passion_n that_o in_o nothing_o he_o spare_v he_o and_o thus_o ambrose_n g_o minus_n contulerat_fw-la mihi_fw-la nisi_fw-la meum_fw-la suscepisset_fw-la affectum_fw-la he_o have_v do_v less_o for_o i_o if_o he_o have_v not_o be_v altogether_o affect_v as_o i_o shall_v have_v be_v and_o thus_o jerom_n 53._o jerom_n â—erom_n in_o â—sa_n 53._o h_o quod_fw-la nos_fw-la pro_fw-la nostris_fw-la debebamus_fw-la sceleribus_fw-la sustinere_fw-la ille_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la passus_fw-la est_fw-la pacificans_fw-la &c_n &c_n that_o which_o we_o shall_v have_v bear_v for_o our_o sin_n the_o same_o he_o suffer_v for_o us._n wherefore_o by_o the_o father_n christ_n suffer_v exact_o i_o all_o &_o whatsoever_o sorrow_n &_o pain_n which_o we_o shall_v have_v suffer_v they_o all_o kind_n 〈◊〉_d both_o in_o spirit_n &_o body_n â—ot_n all_o particulars_n in_o they_o as_o well_o spiritual_a as_o corporal_a as_o well_o in_o all_o the_o power_n of_o the_o soul_n subject_n to_o suffer_v as_o in_o that_o which_o suffer_v always_o with_o and_o from_o the_o body_n only_o they_o except_v 2._o point_n which_o of_o simple_a necessity_n indeed_o must_v be_v except_v in_o the_o son_n of_o god_n â—3_n pag._n 10._o 12._o â—3_n which_o before_o k_n i_o have_v also_o acknowledge_v 1._o sin_n 87._o pag._n 87._o and_o all_o sinful_a concomitante_n and_o consequentes_fw-la as_o l_o you_o speak_v and_o that_o be_v it_o which_o cyprian_n exact_o note_v that_o in_o he_o there_o be_v m_o similitudo_fw-la paenae_fw-la non_fw-la culpae_fw-la pass_n cypr._n the_o pass_n the_o very_a like_o punishment_n as_o shall_v have_v be_v in_o we_o only_o there_o be_v no_o sin_n nor_o fault_n in_o he_o as_o be_v in_o us._n the_o 2._o point_n except_v be_v that_o he_o suffer_v not_o eternal_o but_o for_o a_o while_n for_o he_o that_o be_v life_n itself_o can_v not_o but_o live_v again_o say_v n_o cyrill_n cite_v in_o the_o place_n above_o cite_v where_o he_o seem_v to_o acknowledge_v a_o kind_n of_o death_n even_o of_o the_o soul_n from_o which_o christ_n revive_v again_o but_o of_o that_o in_o due_a place_n hereafter_o now_o here_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o even_o the_o father_n of_o who_o you_o do_v so_o exceed_o boast_v be_v clean_o against_o you_o and_o for_o we_o in_o the_o 1._o and_o chief_a point_n of_o this_o question_n show_v that_o christ_n suffer_v not_o only_o bodily_a or_o in_o the_o soul_n by_o symphaty_n only_o but_o in_o the_o mind_n also_o distinct_o even_o as_o we_o may_v suffer_v in_o mind_n distinct_o from_o our_o bodily_a suffering_n that_o be_v when_o we_o suffer_v somewhat_o 4._o somewhat_o as_o i_o 〈◊〉_d treat_n 〈◊〉_d pag._n 4._o immediate_o from_o god_n yea_o he_o suffer_v say_v these_o father_n all_o the_o pain_n which_o else_o we_o shall_v have_v suffer_v no_o material_a thing_n except_v but_o only_a sin_n otherwise_o he_o be_v spare_v by_o dispensation_n in_o nothing_o against_o this_o clear_a and_o plain_a sense_n of_o the_o father_n 35â—_n father_n pa._n 35â—_n you_o take_v no_o exception_n neither_o can_v you_o thus_o have_v hitherto_o manefest_o defend_v myself_o that_o i_o have_v not_o abuse_v any_o way_n the_o father_n nor_o yet_o yourself_o as_o you_o unjust_o charge_v i_o in_o 22â—_n in_o pa._n 22â—_n your_o entrance_n now_o i_o be_o to_o do_v the_o like_a against_o 2â—â—_n against_o pag._n 2â—â—_n your_o unsufficient_a refuse_v of_o my_o reason_n where_o by_o i_o hope_v it_o shall_v appear_v that_o you_o have_v not_o weaken_v any_o one_o of_o they_o and_o first_o you_o begin_v with_o rehearse_v my_o word_n wherein_o i_o brief_o note_v the_o very_a question_n between_o we_o 4._o we_o treat_n 〈◊〉_d pag._n 4._o that_o christ_n suffer_v for_o we_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n which_o you_o 24_o you_o pag._n 24_o exclaim_v at_o without_o measure_n as_o be_v not_o the_o point_n which_o you_o preach_v against_o howbeit_o i_o suppose_v these_o word_n do_v right_o and_o fit_o set_v out_o the_o matter_n both_o which_o then_o you_o preach_v &_o which_o now_o you_o write_v i_o have_v 8_o have_v pag._n 8_o here_o before_o true_o &_o full_o declare_v the_o whole_a state_n of_o this_o controversy_n i_o trust_v yet_o because_o we_o can_v never_o open_v this_o point_n to_o much_o for_o many_o good_a use_n that_o it_o have_v i_o will_v not_o think_v it_o tedious_a nor_o labour_n lose_v ne_fw-la to_o rip_v up_o this_o question_n a_o little_a again_o in_o this_o place_n that_o so_o we_o may_v proceed_v with_o more_o ease_n your_o general_a carriage_n in_o your_o book_n declare_v that_o you_o abuse_v the_o reader_n exceed_o by_o the_o ambiguous_a and_o equivocal_a take_n of_o this_o term_n god_n wrath_n as_o before_o in_o the_o entrance_n i_o have_v show_v it_o be_v not_o i_o that_o abuse_v they_o as_o you_o 24â—_n you_o namâ—_n 243_o 24â—_n every_o where_o very_o bitter_o and_o unreasonable_o do_v charge_n i_o for_o according_a to_o the_o most_o usual_a and_o
christ_n can_v not_o bâ—â—_n tempt_v by_o satan_n inward_a suggestion_n but_o only_o by_o the_o care_n receive_v a_o outward_a voice_n this_o i_o suppose_v also_o be_v a_o singular_a conceit_n of_o your_o own_o without_o any_o title_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v it_o by_o yea_o what_o reason_n can_v you_o give_v that_o where_o the_o mind_n conceave_v any_o temptation_n there_o of_o necessity_n must_v be_v concupiscence_n original_a sin_n 1_o sin_n pag._n 1_o corruption_n of_o the_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n in_o we_o man_n it_o be_v so_o you_o say_v i_o grant_v in_o we_o it_o be_v so_o but_o that_o of_o necessity_n in_o nature_n it_o must_v be_v so_o or_o that_o adam_n be_v tempt_v by_o voice_n of_o necessity_n and_o not_o accidental_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n or_o that_o christ_n may_v not_o be_v sometime_o inward_o assault_v &_o tempt_v also_o without_o heave_v any_o voice_n nay_o i_o suppose_v you_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o affirm_v as_o 1_o as_o pag_n 1_o you_o do_v that_o christ_n in_o the_o wilderness_n be_v tempt_v by_o satan_n by_o outward_a voice_n only_o it_o seem_v rather_o to_o be_v manifest_a that_o his_o temptation_n be_v mere_o in_o cogitation_n and_o in_o the_o thought_n of_o his_o heart_n so_o move_v by_o the_o how_o the_o or_o else_o bâ—_n such_o outâ—_n object_n tâ—ther_o with_o 〈◊〉_d work_v thaâ—rituall_a câ—â—tion_n in_o câ—â—_n as_o satan_n 〈◊〉_d well_o knoâ—_n how_o spiritual_a suggestion_n of_o the_o devil_n first_o because_o the_o text_n say_v that_o satan_n â—_o satan_n mat._n â—_o set_v he_o upon_o a_o pinnacle_n of_o the_o temple_n in_o jerusalem_n and_o move_v he_o to_o cast_v himself_o down_o which_o be_v within_o the_o time_n of_o his_o fast_n and_o he_o fast_v but_o forty_o day_n and_o forty_o night_n and_o so_o long_o continual_o he_o be_v marc._n be_v marc._n in_o the_o wilderness_n see_v then_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o wilderness_n all_o the_o while_n that_o he_o be_v thus_o tempt_v how_o can_v that_o be_v real_o and_o actuallie_o do_v this_o be_v therefore_o in_o a_o spiritual_a cogitation_n but_o chief_o when_o the_o 4._o the_o mat._n 4._o devil_n show_v he_o all_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o world_n and_o the_o glory_n of_o they_o and_o 4._o and_o luc._n 4._o that_o in_o the_o twinkle_n of_o a_o eye_n how_o can_v that_o ergoâ—_n that_o yea_o sible_o it_o 〈◊〉_d be_v do_v â—â—â—ally_o &c_n &c_n ficellâ—_n aâ—_n you_o but_o unless_o it_o 〈◊〉_d be_v ergoâ—_n possible_o be_v do_v real_o actual_o and_o external_o wherefore_o i_o must_v needs_o think_v that_o as_o satan_n be_v a_o subtle_a spirit_n so_o he_o can_v &_o do_v sometime_o spiritual_o suggest_v temptation_n into_o christ_n heart_n and_o christ_n can_v in_o soul_n conceive_v they_o and_o yet_o utter_o without_o all_o sin_n which_o we_o at_o no_o hand_n now_o can_v do_v because_o we_o be_v all_o natural_o apt_a and_o incline_v to_o evil_n as_o christ_n be_v not_o yea_o the_o text_n to_o the_o hebr._n seem_v to_o prove_v it_o also_o christ_n be_v tempt_v in_o all_o thing_n like_o we_o without_o sin_n then_o he_o be_v tempt_v both_o outward_o and_o also_o mere_o within_o for_o so_o be_v we_o and_o this_o be_v mere_o by_o conceave_v and_o consider_v of_o satan_n wicked_a spiritual_a motion_n in_o his_o spirit_n which_o it_o be_v possible_a that_o he_o may_v do_v without_o any_o yield_a to_o it_o though_o we_o by_o reason_n of_o our_o inborn_a corruption_n can_v not_o possible_o do_v it_o thus_o than_o it_o be_v possible_a and_o most_o likely_a it_o be_v also_o that_o christ_n be_v assault_v and_o wrestle_v withal_o by_o the_o devil_n spiritual_a suggestion_n now_o when_o in_o most_o bitter_a agonic_a he_o hang_v on_o the_o cross_n howbeit_o to_o go_v further_o such_o grievous_a and_o bitter_a assault_n of_o the_o devil_n he_o may_v receive_v outward_o also_o by_o his_o sense_n other_o way_n though_o not_o by_o satan_n own_o voice_n yet_o by_o satan_n member_n mean_n and_o so_o 283._o so_o â—ag_n 283._o you_o say_v he_o be_v tempt_v of_o satan_n all_o the_o time_n of_o his_o abode_n on_o earth_n then_o so_o you_o deny_v not_o but_o now_o even_o on_o the_o cross_n christ_n may_v be_v and_o be_v tempt_v and_o assault_v by_o satan_n that_o be_v by_o satan_n instrument_n move_v and_o enrage_v by_o he_o and_o this_o be_v none_o other_o indeed_o but_o that_o which_o in_o the_o entrance_n of_o 77._o of_o pag._n 77._o this_o question_n here_o i_o observe_v which_o as_o i_o have_v before_o show_v suffice_v to_o prove_v christ_n combat_v as_o it_o be_v and_o wrestle_v with_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n on_o the_o cross_n but_o 284._o but_o pag._n 284._o you_o object_n against_o this_o that_o outward_a temptation_n by_o the_o mouth_n and_o hand_n of_o the_o wicked_a be_v no_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath_n no_o be_v here_o you_o be_v clean_o contrary_a to_o yourself_o and_o the_o truth_n elsewhere_o 275_o elsewhere_o pag._n 243._o â—63_n 275_o you_o true_o acknowdge_v that_o all_o outward_a cross_n and_o affliction_n small_a or_o great_a be_v in_o their_o nature_n punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath_n now_o those_o doubtless_o be_v temptation_n then_o sure_a these_o outward_a temptation_n by_o the_o mouth_n and_o hand_n of_o the_o wicked_a such_o as_o christ_n endure_v be_v effect_n of_o god_n wrath_n viz._n his_o revile_n his_o shame_n his_o poverty_n his_o stripe_n his_o wound_n and_o death_n itself_o etc._n etc._n you_o say_v outward_a temptation_n be_v rather_o a_o try_n all_o of_o god_n gift_n and_o grace_n bestow_v upon_o us._n and_o be_v not_o inward_a temptation_n in_o the_o godly_a so_o to_o i_o pray_v what_o odds_n be_v this_o that_o you_o make_v between_o the_o inward_a and_o outward_a temptation_n it_o be_v true_a this_o be_v one_o good_a use_n of_o both_o these_o fort_n in_o the_o godly_a in_o who_o christ_n have_v sanctify_v all_o affliction_n &_o death_n itself_o yet_o in_o their_o very_a nature_n they_o all_o be_v none_o other_o but_o part_n of_o god_n curse_v for_o sin_n very_a punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o true_a effect_n of_o god_n wrath_n as_o in_o christ_n they_o be_v all_o further_o satan_n may_v spiritual_o and_o extraordinary_o work_v together_o with_o these_o his_o instrument_n outward_o afflict_v his_o body_n i_o say_v by_o these_o bodily_a occasion_n thus_o the_o rather_o work_v a_o impression_n of_o his_o malice_n and_o spiritual_a fury_n mix_v with_o subtlety_n against_o christ_n and_o christ_n likewise_o extraordinary_o may_v apprehend_v the_o same_o that_o be_v the_o rather_o by_o the_o concurrence_n and_o cooperation_n of_o those_o outward_a occasion_n with_o these_o spiritual_a incursion_n and_o thus_o may_v christ_n suffer_v most_o strange_a temptation_n and_o incomprehensible_a sorrow_n as_o very_a punishment_n of_o sin_n from_o the_o furious_a rage_n of_o satan_n and_o malice_n of_o wicked_a man_n whatsoever_o other_o use_v they_o may_v have_v beside_o in_o he_o here_o now_o we_o may_v seed_n row_v unjust_o you_o conclude_v that_o satan_n can_v no_o other_o way_n assault_n christ_n as_o a_o instrument_n of_o god_n wrath_n but_o he_n but_o the_o veâ—â—_n wrastling_n assault_n of_o â—â—tan_n may_v bâ—_n ritual_a â—ornâ—â—_n though_o 〈◊〉_d such_o as_o arâ—â—_n ecute_v in_o local_a he_n only_o by_o execute_v torment_n on_o his_o soul_n even_o in_o such_o wise_a as_o he_o tormenth_fw-mi damn_v soul_n in_o hell_n and_o that_o can_v be_v say_v you_o no_o other_o way_n then_o by_o satan_n very_a possess_n of_o those_o soul_n which_o gross_a and_o infernal_a speculation_n of_o you_o for_o truth_n you_o can_v not_o make_v they_o i_o utter_o leave_v to_o your_o own_o discuss_n for_o my_o part_n i_o have_v speak_v no_o word_n of_o they_o in_o all_o my_o treatise_n notwithstanding_o this_o here_o i_o avouch_v that_o howsoever_o the_o mean_n or_o manner_n be_v of_o satan_n and_o his_o furious_a band_n assault_v of_o christ_n on_o the_o cross_n it_o make_v certain_o a_o impression_n of_o most_o doleful_a sorrow_n and_o torment_n in_o his_o soul_n as_o feel_v &_o discern_v by_o that_o mean_v the_o very_a stroke_n of_o god_n own_o hand_n upon_o he_o and_o receive_v the_o sting_n of_o his_o wrath_n and_o indignation_n therein_o which_o then_o wrought_v and_o be_v reveal_v chiefty_a then_o upon_o he_o for_o all_o our_o sin_n neither_o say_v you_o any_o thing_n whereby_o you_o do_v or_o can_v overthrow_v this_o assertion_n our_o authorise_a doctrine_n in_o england_n agree_v with_o i_o say_v catech._n say_v noweâ—_n catech._n he_o fight_v and_o wrestle_v as_o it_o be_v hand_n to_o hand_n with_o the_o whole_a army_n of_o hell_n final_o here_o where_o you_o skornful_o reject_v and_o detest_v this_o my_o sense_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o place_n yet_o you_o give_v no_o inkling_n of_o any_o
determine_v the_o measure_n and_o depth_n of_o sorrow_n which_o christ_n in_o his_o passion_n suffer_v as_o also_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a to_o define_v that_o glory_n which_o he_o taste_v of_o for_o the_o time_n in_o the_o mount_n only_o grant_v this_o plain_o that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o his_o soul_n the_o true_a effect_n of_o god_n proper_a justice_n or_o wrath_n and_o we_o seek_v no_o more_o grant_v this_o i_o say_v and_o then_o we_o will_v see_v further_o if_o you_o will_v make_v it_o a_o question_n whether_o the_o sense_n of_o pain_n in_o christ_n be_v lesser_a for_o the_o time_n then_o that_o which_o be_v eternal_a in_o the_o damn_a and_o whether_o the_o true_a and_o proper_a wrath_n of_o god_n take_v full_a vengeance_n of_o sin_n here_o in_o this_o world_n may_v not_o be_v as_o sharp_a and_o violent_a as_o the_o sharp_a torment_n in_o hell_n yea_o the_o very_a shame_n which_o be_v in_o hell_n the_o sharp_a true_o though_o christ_n suffer_v all_o which_o he_o do_v suffer_v here_o in_o this_o world_n yet_o for_o any_o thing_n i_o can_v see_v there_o be_v cause_n why_o christ_n shall_v be_v a_o extraordinary_a person_n in_o the_o case_n of_o suffer_v for_o sin_n in_o this_o life_n and_o that_o therefore_o as_o touch_v sorrow_n and_o pain_n he_o may_v feel_v more_o than_o ever_o any_o else_o have_v or_o can_v feel_v for_o the_o time_n you_o seem_v to_o grant_v unto_o christ_n 2_o christ_n pag._n 2_o all_o natural_a sorrow_n and_o fear_n neither_o do_v we_o seek_v any_o more_o but_o you_o trust_v the_o pain_n of_o the_o damn_a be_v more_o than_o a_o natural_a oppress_a and_o afflict_v of_o the_o heart_n with_o humane_a fear_n &_o sorrow_n forsooth_o it_o be_v not_o it_o be_v no_o more_o than_o a_o very_a natural_a humane_a sorrow_n &_o fear_n it_o proceed_v immediate_o and_o principal_o from_o god_n himself_o who_o be_v the_o nature_n of_o nature_n also_o humane_a nature_n be_v apt_a to_o receyve_v such_o sorrow_n &_o fear_n from_o he_o thus_o the_o very_a pain_n of_o the_o damnedare_v mere_o natural_a yet_o supernatural_a i_o grant_v they_o be_v if_o we_o mean_v this_o that_o they_o be_v above_o our_o nature_n state_n to_o bear_v or_o to_o comprehend_v they_o this_o therefore_o hitherto_o be_v a_o very_a slight_a exception_n against_o our_o doctrine_n before_o deliver_v the_o next_o be_v as_o vain_a 296._o pag._n 296._o where_o a_o you_o think_v it_o not_o tolerable_a that_o i_o say_v 59_o treat_v 1._o â—ag_n 59_o christ_n b_o in_o plain_a word_n pray_v contrary_a to_o god_n know_v will_n i_o pray_v have_v patience_n i_o say_v no_o harm_n nor_o mean_v no_o ill_a do_v not_o christ_n in_o plain_a word_n pray_v 14.35_o â—â—aek_v 14.35_o c_o that_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a this_o hour_n may_v pass_v from_o he_o 27_o joh._n 1â—_n 27_o and_o before_o d_o father_n save_v i_o from_o this_o hour_n by_o this_o hour_n he_o mean_v this_o his_o pain_n &_o punishment_n appoint_v he_o by_o god_n for_o to_o suffer_v at_o that_o time_n and_o this_o christ_n know_v well_o see_v he_o say_v present_o but_o therefore_o i_o come_v into_o this_o hour_n do_v he_o not_o then_o pray_v in_o plain_a word_n contrary_a to_o god_n know_v will_n therefore_o never_o scoff_v at_o it_o nor_o reproach_n it_o nor_o wrest_v it_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v ashamed_a to_o acknowledge_v that_o weakness_n of_o humane_a nature_n in_o christ_n which_o christ_n be_v not_o ashamed_a of_o for_o our_o sake_n to_o undergo_v if_o this_o can_v not_o be_v possible_o in_o christ_n manhood_n without_o sin_n than_o i_o be_v a_o wretch_n to_o affirm_v so_o much_o of_o he_o especial_o still_o to_o affirm_v it_o but_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a by_o any_o mean_n through_o the_o mere_a instinct_n of_o man_n nature_n as_o it_o be_v god_n creature_n and_o free_a from_o all_o sin_n thus_o to_o speak_v and_o to_o wish_v sudden_o and_o sudden_o to_o control_v it_o again_o as_o christ_n do_v then_o what_o mind_n bear_v you_o and_o how_o may_v we_o judge_v of_o this_o your_o strive_v which_o be_v not_o to_o clear_v christ_n from_o all_o sin_n in_o his_o agony_n for_o that_o we_o do_v all_o and_o nature_n itself_o witness_v with_o we_o that_o in_o such_o a_o case_n as_o he_o now_o be_v in_o this_o be_v nothing_o strange_a to_o be_v thus_o perplex_v &_o move_v but_o your_o strive_v seem_v to_o be_v altogether_o to_o exempt_a christ-man_n from_o our_o mere_a natural_a affection_n and_o infirmity_n and_o to_o give_v he_o humane_a flesh_n indeed_o but_o not_o such_o as_o we_o be_v in_o all_o and_o every_o point_n except_o only_a sin_n you_o will_v say_v if_o he_o know_v it_o to_o be_v god_n will_v and_o pray_v against_o it_o how_o can_v he_o want_v sin_n i_o answer_v he_o know_v it_o but_o at_o this_o instant_n he_o consider_v it_o not_o he_o think_v not_o on_o it_o and_o so_o his_o sudden_a desire_n may_v be_v clear_a from_o sin_n but_o why_o think_v he_o not_o on_o it_o or_o how_o can_v he_o choose_v but_o think_v on_o that_o which_o he_o well_o know_v and_o do_v so_o great_o concern_v he_o i_o answer_v his_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n be_v so_o great_a and_o so_o infinite_a as_o they_o be_v not_o in_o his_o body_n only_o but_o chief_o in_o his_o very_a spirit_n and_o mind_n and_o these_o more_o extreme_o reveal_v upon_o he_o now_o at_o these_o instant_a time_n than_o they_o be_v otherwise_o or_o continual_o as_o by_o the_o effect_n of_o they_o in_o he_o we_o may_v perceive_v i_o say_v these_o thing_n acknowledge_v &_o well_o weigh_v as_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v than_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o show_v why_o &_o how_o christ_n come_v thus_o affect_v &_o yet_o without_o sin_n first_o he_o be_v now_o 33_o now_o ekthamb_n isthaâ—_n be_v to_o astonish_a uâ—â—eare_n maâ—_n 1â—_n 33_o astonish_v as_o the_o text_n say_v and_o you_o 124._o you_o pag_n 124._o acknowledge_v that_o he_o may_v be_v sec_n these_o incomprehensible_a sorrow_n &_o incomparable_a pain_n astonish_v he_o yea_o impossible_a it_o be_v but_o his_o mere_a humane_a nature_n must_v be_v astonish_v with_o they_o and_o it_o be_v utter_o untrue_a which_o you_o say_v 196._o say_v pag._n 196._o many_o thing_n may_v astonish_v our_o saviour_n for_o the_o time_n beside_o such_o pain_n in_o these_o instant_a time_n of_o his_o passion_n nothing_o can_v astonish_v he_o but_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n which_o before_o 1â—_n before_o pa._n 115_o 1â—_n i_o have_v prove_v or_o at_o least_o that_o pain_n &_o sorrow_n now_o do_v chief_o &_o that_o nothing_o can_v possible_o without_o such_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n as_o these_o which_o i_o speak_v of_o even_o spiritual_a and_o infinite_a and_o incomprehensible_a pain_n proceed_v from_o god_n justice_n upon_o he_o for_o our_o sin_n three_o add_v hereunto_o that_o which_o you_o right_o grant_v 12â—_n grant_v pag._n 12â—_n it_o be_v true_a that_o a_o mighty_a fear_n may_v so_o affect_v a_o man_n for_o the_o time_n that_o it_o shall_v hinder_v the_o sense_n from_o recover_v themselves_o and_o stop_v the_o faculty_n from_o inform_v one_o the_o other_o but_o this_o must_v be_v some_o sudden_a object_n astonish_v the_o heart_n and_o so_o terrible_a that_o it_o suffer_v we_o not_o present_o to_o gather_v our_o wit_n together_o and_o to_o consider_v of_o it_o likewise_o very_o full_o afterward_o 29â—_n afterward_o pag._n 29â—_n astonishment_n draw_v the_o mind_n so_o whole_o to_o think_v on_o some_o special_a thing_n above_o our_o reach_n that_o during_o the_o time_n we_o turn_v not_o ourselves_o to_o any_o other_o cogitation_n even_o as_o the_o eye_n if_o it_o be_v bend_v intentive_o to_o behold_v any_o thing_n for_o that_o present_a it_o discern_v nothing_o else_o so_o fare_v it_o with_o the_o soul_n if_o she_o whole_o addict_v herself_o to_o think_v on_o any_o matter_n she_o be_v amuse_v if_o it_o be_v more_o they_o she_o conceave_v or_o more_o fearful_a than_o she_o well_o endure_v she_o be_v amaze_v or_o astonish_v but_o not_o of_o necessity_n so_o that_o she_o lose_v either_o sense_n or_o memory_n only_o for_o that_o time_n she_o convert_v neither_o to_o any_o other_o object_n now_o thus_o christ_n be_v astonish_v with_o sorrow_n and_o fear_n lose_v not_o either_o sense_n memory_n or_o understanding_n much_o less_o his_o virtue_n and_o grace_n be_v cast_v into_o a_o infernal_a confusion_n as_o you_o untrue_o 289._o untrue_o pag._n 289._o charge_n i_o that_o i_o say_v but_o i_o say_v as_o you_o say_v he_o now_o on_o the_o sudden_a may_v turn_v neither_o sense_n nor_o memory_n to_o any_o other_o object_n and_o so_o not_o think_v on_o any_o thing_n else_o but_o only_o on_o this_o terrible_a and_o mighty_a sorrow_n &_o fear_n which_o now_o smite_v he_o &_o bruise_v he_o to_o piece_n and_o thus_o
his_o mere_a bodily_a death_n which_o he_o so_o woeful_o and_o impotent_o fear_v as_o i_o have_v before_o sufficient_o confirm_v therefore_o it_o be_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n the_o 2._o death_n which_o here_o be_v understand_v to_o have_v thus_o mighty_o afflict_a christ_n which_o also_o your_o own_o self_n do_v â—â—_o do_v pag._n â—â—_o full_o grant_v and_o affirm_v with_o i_o yea_o you_o affirm_v further_o than_o we_o do_v or_o then_o the_o truth_n be_v or_o possible_o can_v be_v you_o say_v christ_n here_o thus_o fear_v eternal_a death_n and_o everlasting_a damnation_n what_o a_o speech_n be_v this_o christ_n can_v not_o possible_o fear_v in_o such_o woeful_a manner_n that_o which_o he_o perfect_o know_v shall_v never_o come_v near_o he_o but_o he_o perfect_o know_v that_o eternal_a death_n and_o the_o cup_n of_o god_n everlasting_a malediction_n shall_v never_o touch_v he_o he_o know_v and_o see_v that_o this_o by_o god_n almighty_a and_o unchangeable_a decree_n be_v set_v further_o from_o he_o then_o the_o east_n be_v from_o the_o west_n yea_o then_o hell_n be_v from_o heaven_n therefore_o he_o can_v not_o by_o any_o mean_n possible_o fear_v eternal_a death_n nor_o pray_v in_o such_o sort_n against_o it_o again_o that_o which_o he_o fear_v and_o so_o pitiful_o pray_v against_o be_v that_o which_o he_o know_v be_v by_o god_n 12_o god_n john_n 12_o ordain_v for_o he_o yea_o fear_v always_o be_v of_o that_o which_o be_v to_o come_v but_o eternal_a death_n be_v not_o by_o god_n ordain_v for_o he_o that_o be_v wâ—_n be_v which_o christ_n 〈◊〉_d right_a wâ—_n not_o to_o come_v unto_o he_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o eternal_a death_n which_o he_o so_o fear_v final_o when_o in_o the_o garden_n he_o pray_v against_o that_o cup_n which_o he_o fear_v that_o it_o may_v pass_v from_o he_o there_o he_o yield_v and_o submit_v himself_o present_o to_o the_o undergo_n of_o it_o but_o it_o be_v i_o know_v not_o what_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n do_v ever_o yield_v and_o submit_v himself_o to_o undergo_v eternal_a death_n or_o to_o taste_v the_o cup_n of_o god_n everlasting_a malediction_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o this_o that_o he_o fear_v &_o here_o pray_v against_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v i_o grant_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n or_o the_o 2._o death_n that_o be_v simple_o the_o essense_n thereof_o god_n withdraw_v himself_o from_o he_o in_o the_o pain_n and_o torment_n thereof_o this_o only_a it_o be_v fear_v he_o suffer_v that_o deatâ—_n which_o he_o fear_v not_o the_o eternity_n thereof_o nor_o sinful_a concomitant_n which_o he_o thus_o fear_v and_o this_o for_o the_o infinitnes_n of_o it_o natural_o he_o can_v not_o but_o fear_n yea_o and_o that_o so_o extreme_o also_o he_o fear_v â—ôzein_fw-fr fear_v â—ôzein_fw-fr for_o himself_o as_o know_v it_o to_o be_v ordain_v for_o he_o so_o that_o hence_o it_o follow_v invincible_o that_o christ_n in_o deed_n suffer_v since_o he_o thus_o fear_v more_o than_o the_o mere_a bodily_a death_n even_o the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n for_o he_o can_v not_o i_o say_v thus_o â—â—â—don_n thus_o much_o yield_v to_o iâ—_n he_o do_v sâ—â—ing_n thy_o â—â—â—don_n fear_v but_o he_o must_v needs_o know_v that_o it_o be_v to_o come_v or_o may_v come_v unto_o he_o 131.132_o â—wed_a furâ—â—_n before_o 131.132_o if_o he_o but_o know_v that_o it_o may_v come_v than_o it_o *_o certain_o do_v come_v unto_o he_o at_o one_o time_n or_o other_o in_o his_o passion_n before_o heâ—_n leave_v the_o world_n see_v to_o the_o hebr._n g_o christ_n abolish_v through_o death_n he_o that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o death_n that_o be_v the_o devil_n and_o so_o deliver_v all_o they_o which_o for_o fear_n of_o death_n be_v all_o their_o life_n time_n subject_a to_o bondage_n 2.14_o â—â—b_fw-la 2.14_o here_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n but_o that_o the_o apostle_n by_o â—his_n often_o repeat_v of_o death_n and_o by_o mutual_a refer_v of_o it_o in_o one_o place_n as_o it_o be_v to_o the_o other_o do_v understand_v &_o signify_v one_o and_o the_o same_o death_n altogether_o but_o it_o be_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o the_o devil_n have_v the_o power_n and_o execution_n of_o also_o the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n chief_o sinful_a man_n be_v hold_v in_o fear_n of_o all_o their_o life_n long_o it_o follow_v then_o i_o suppose_v that_o even_o through_o this_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n christ_n abolish_v the_o devil_n and_o delivete_v his_o child_n special_o see_v there_o be_v no_o enormity_n nor_o impossibility_n herein_o against_o this_o you_o have_v no_o reason_n at_o all_o but_o word_n and_o wrest_n and_o vain_a ostentation_n of_o father_n none_o of_o they_o all_o deny_v our_o sense_n third_z it_o seem_v also_o that_o peter_n teach_v this_o same_o 3.18_o pet._n 3.18_o say_v k_n christ_n in_o his_o suffering_n be_v do_v to_o death_n in_o the_o flesh_n but_o make_v alive_a by_o the_o spirit_n where_o death_n may_v be_v very_o well_o refer_v both_o to_o the_o soul_n and_o body_n of_o christ_n because_o the_o text_n here_o speak_v as_o i_o judge_v of_o the_o whole_a and_o entire_a suffering_n of_o christ_n and_o it_o be_v manifest_a by_o that_o before_o that_o christ_n do_v suffer_v not_o in_o his_o body_n only_o but_o proper_o and_o immediate_o also_o in_o his_o soul_n we_o have_v see_v also_o that_o the_o *_o phrase_n of_o death_n 135.136_o 〈◊〉_d 135.136_o or_o die_v may_v in_o a_o good_a sense_n be_v apply_v even_o to_o christ_n soul_n again_o this_o word_n flesh_n it_o seem_v can_v not_o here_o in_o this_o place_n be_v understand_v to_o signify_v only_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o even_o both_o part_n of_o his_o humane_a nature_n thar_z be_v the_o reasonable_a soul_n and_o the_o body_n my_o reason_n be_v because_o wheresoever_o in_o scripture_n the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n be_v note_v opposit_o together_o in_o christ_n 320._o â—â—m_fw-la 1.3_o 4._o â—im_n 3.16_o â—oh_o 4.2_o 〈◊〉_d 1.14_o â—or_a 5.7_o &_o â—4_n &_o 1.4.1_o â—â—g_v 320._o there_o the_o i_o flesh_n signify_v always_o his_o whole_a humanity_n even_o both_o part_n thereof_o the_o soul_n also_o &_o not_o the_o body_n only_o the_o spirit_n signify_v his_o deity_n or_o divine_a power_n now_o what_o have_v you_o against_o this_o nothing_o of_o weight_n but_o flout_n and_o mock_n that_o k_n this_o observation_n be_v make_v out_o of_o the_o hinder_a partâ—_n of_o my_o head_n etc._n etc._n but_o what_o pretend_v you_o against_o it_o some_o scripture_n palpable_o abuse_v first_o matthew_n where_o christ_n speak_v of_o his_o disciple_n that_o their_o spirit_n their_o inward_a regenerate_a man_n be_v ready_a to_o watch_v 26._o â—ath_n 26._o but_o their_o flesh_n their_o corrupt_a nature_n be_v weak_a &_o sluggish_a what_o be_v this_o to_o christ_n flesh_n and_o spirit_n think_v you_o that_o christ_n soul_n be_v willing_a to_o suffer_v as_o god_n have_v appoint_v but_o that_o his_o flesh_n resist_v very_o so_o you_o seem_v here_o to_o understand_v conceit_n a_o untrâ—â—_n conceit_n and_o it_o be_v as_o likely_a as_o your_o apply_v of_o flesh_n and_o spirit_n to_o christ_n in_o your_o pag._n 104._o then_o 2._o then_o luk._n 2._o luke_n where_o both_o spirit_n and_o flesh_n be_v not_o intend_v of_o christ_n as_o our_o observation_n before_o require_v but_o only_o the_o flesh_n then_o the_o roman_n where_o i_o affirm_v that_o rom._n that_o rom._n flesh_n signify_v the_o whole_a manhood_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o the_o which_o he_o come_v from_o david_n even_o as_o well_o as_o solomon_n or_o nathan_n do_v who_o be_v david_n son_n in_o their_o entire_a and_o perfect_a nature_n so_o likewise_o christ_n be_v kin_n to_o the_o jew_n according_a to_o his_o 9_o his_o rom._n 9_o whole_a humanity_n aswell_o as_o 3._o as_o ver_fw-la 3._o paul_n be_v and_o here_o paul_n mean_v himself_o to_o be_v kin_n to_o they_o according_a to_o nature_n whole_o &_o that_o only_o by_o regeneration_n in_o the_o gospel_n he_o be_v differ_v from_o they_o now_o nature_n oppose_v to_o grace_n and_o regeneration_n have_v reference_n both_o to_o soul_n and_o body_n in_o a_o man_n howsoever_o the_o soul_n come_v in_o generation_n that_o be_v not_o here_o consider_v neither_o be_v it_o necessary_o to_o the_o purpose_n which_o difficulty_n also_o yourself_o have_v utter_o 2d_o utter_o pag._n 2d_o renounce_v before_o to_o make_v it_o any_o argument_n for_o you_o in_o this_o matter_n thus_o yet_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n thus_o oppose_v here_o in_o christ_n shall_v signify_v the_o whole_a manhood_n and_o godhead_n in_o he_o further_o that_o which_o 32_o which_o pa._n 32_o you_o bring_v out_o of_o the_o corâ—_n the_o 2._o corâ—_n corinthian_n compare_v with_o this_o in_o peter_n do_v most_o fit_o and_o clear_o open_a and_o confirm_v the_o
the_o now_o l._n bishop_n of_o winchester_n to_o begin_v among_o we_o a_o new_a matter_n of_o faith_n never_o hear_v of_o before_o in_o england_n but_o only_a in_o the_o day_n of_o popery_n touch_v the_o all_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o mere_a bodily_a suffering_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o maintain_v a_o other_o which_o be_v near_o wear_v out_o of_o his_o go_v down_o to_o hell_n in_o soul_n in_o both_o which_o because_o my_o conscience_n assure_v i_o that_o he_o be_v much_o mistake_v and_o labour_v that_o other_o shall_v mistake_v also_o i_o think_v it_o not_o beside_o my_o duty_n the_o lord_n offer_v i_o opportunity_n to_o maintain_v the_o truth_n and_o that_o in_o all_o plainness_n and_o evidence_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o god_n enable_v i_o with_o this_o now_o a_o while_n since_o be_v publish_v wherein_o my_o trust_n be_v i_o carry_v myself_o no_o otherwise_o then_o i_o ought_v the_o author_n and_o maintainer_n of_o the_o contrary_n have_v so_o of_o late_o entertain_v it_o as_o seem_v to_o i_o and_o to_o many_o other_o wonderful_a wonderful_a not_o for_o strength_n of_o reason_n nor_o for_o exquisite_a matter_n such_o as_o never_o before_o be_v deliver_v though_o his_o learning_n i_o acknowledge_v and_o will_v not_o but_o reverence_v his_o gift_n but_o wonderful_a his_o answer_n be_v and_o altogether_o extraordinary_a consider_v that_o such_o incomparable_a bitterness_n disdain_n skoff_v reproach_n and_o furious_a rage_n do_v so_o abundant_o come_v from_o he_o therein_o against_o my_o poor_a self_n be_v yet_o by_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n a_o true_a christian_a a_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o one_o i_o praise_v the_o lord_n which_o ever_o have_v be_v careful_a to_o be_v free_a from_o the_o scandal_n of_o the_o world_n though_o herein_o i_o boast_v not_o but_o rather_o with_o the_o apostle_n will_v boast_v of_o my_o infirmity_n very_o this_o now_o i_o have_v learn_v by_o his_o writing_n better_o than_o ever_o i_o conceive_v before_o namely_o what_o great_a odds_n he_o make_v and_o desire_v to_o be_v make_v between_o himself_o a_o lord_n bishop_n and_o a_o other_o be_v but_o a_o preacher_n of_o god_n most_o holy_a word_n well_o this_o be_v the_o rhetoric_n and_o the_o ornament_n of_o his_o conclusion_n against_o my_o treatise_n but_o all_o this_o be_v beside_o his_o matter_n which_o nevertheless_o may_v have_v peradventure_o some_o weight_n in_o it_o it_o may_v peradventure_o wherefore_o i_o see_v a_o double_a necessity_n urge_v i_o to_o reply_v thereunto_o first_o to_o the_o end_n that_o his_o exception_n and_o reason_n that_o be_v to_o say_v his_o whole_a matter_n may_v appear_v yet_o better_a to_o be_v so_o weak_a and_o unsufficient_a as_o indeed_o they_o be_v see_v that_o those_o uncivil_a reproach_n i_o will_v not_o say_v unchristian_a revile_n be_v the_o beauty_n and_o form_n of_o his_o book_n may_v appear_v to_o be_v but_o the_o froth_n of_o a_o distemper_a stomach_n the_o colour_n of_o reason_n and_o just_a cause_n which_o he_o cast_v on_o it_o be_v take_v away_o as_o touch_v the_o matter_n therefore_o thus_o i_o purpose_v to_o deal_v i_o will_v begin_v with_o his_o late_a writing_n which_o he_o call_v a_o conclusion_n because_o he_o main_o direct_v it_o against_o i_o taking_z in_o by_o the_o way_n also_o all_o such_o place_n &_o point_n in_o the_o former_a treatise_n as_o do_v right_o concern_v our_o matter_n in_o hand_n final_o as_o touch_v his_o reproach_n and_o cruel_a word_n i_o intend_v whole_o to_o pass_v over_o they_o see_v for_o they_o neither_o be_v he_o any_o whit_n the_o better_a nor_o myself_o the_o worse_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o treatise_n of_o christ_n suffering_n against_o master_n bilsons_n conclusion_n his_o conclusion_n for_o so_o he_o think_v good_a to_o call_v it_o begin_v against_o i_o in_o his_o page_n 225._o wherein_o first_o he_o do_v change_v i_o in_o general_a term_n that_o i_o flee_v from_o the_o state_n of_o the_o chief_a question_n and_o overskip_v his_o authority_n 9_o the_o like_a say_v in_o eâ—_n pag._n 9_o in_o his_o reason_n i_o forget_v and_o dissemble_v what_o please_v myself_o in_o the_o defence_n of_o my_o holy_a cause_n as_o it_o please_v he_o to_o mock_v i_o rove_v as_o i_o listen_v neither_o keep_n any_o order_n nor_o bring_v any_o matter_n of_o moment_n confuse_o pour_v out_o the_o hasty_a resolution_n of_o i_o own_o brain_n spice_a every_o where_o with_o ignorant_a &_o absurd_a position_n proud_o despise_v all_o authority_n &_o antiquity_n etc._n etc._n all_o which_o word_n be_v but_o wind_n as_o i_o shall_v make_v it_o evident_a god_n will_v when_o we_o come_v to_o view_v his_o particular_n hereafter_o ensue_a among_o which_o he_o â—_o he_o pag._n â—_o beginneh_a to_o justify_v that_o he_o mistake_v not_o his_o text_n when_o he_o preach_v this_o doctrine_n but_o i_o will_v speak_v thereof_o anon_o so_o that_o first_o i_o satisfy_v he_o in_o the_o most_o principal_a point_n of_o his_o challenge_n against_o i_o which_o be_v this_o episâ—_n this_o episâ—_n that_o i_o have_v change_v the_o first_o question_n that_o i_o set_v not_o down_o the_o state_n thereof_o full_o nor_o true_o &_o so_o i_o offer_v to_o prove_v that_o which_o he_o never_o deny_v i_o confute_v that_o which_o he_o never_o affirm_v let_v we_o there_o fore_o consider_v advise_o this_o question_n which_o i_o will_v set_v down_o again_o as_o exact_o &_o as_o plain_o as_o i_o can_v that_o we_o may_v see_v how_o far_o i_o err_v from_o it_o before_o we_o affirm_v that_o christ_n in_o his_o soul_n suffer_v all_o god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n be_v pain_n and_o punishment_n for_o sin_n &_o no_o sin_n also_o as_o touch_v the_o essence_n or_o nature_n thereof_o â—_o the_o suâ—_n whole_a out_o 1._o â—_o and_o so_o far_o as_o be_v due_a general_o for_o all_o mankind_n to_o suffer_v his_o contrary_a opinion_n we_o conceive_v thus_o that_o christ_n suffer_v for_o our_o sin_n nothing_o else_o but_o simple_o and_o and_o and_o or_o 〈◊〉_d his_o hoâ—_n fection_n â—â—tio_n and_o mere_o a_o bodily_a death_n altogether_o like_a as_o the_o godly_a and_o holy_a man_n do_v often_o suffer_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o persecutor_n save_v only_o that_o god_n accept_v this_o death_n of_o his_o son_n as_o a_o ransom_n for_o sin_n but_o the_o death_n of_o his_o servant_n be_v do_v not_o the_o open_v of_o the_o whole_a staâ—e_v of_o this_o question_n for_o the_o better_a understanding_n whereof_o we_o must_v note_v these_o principal_a thing_n â—oted_a take_v spe_fw-mi i_o thing_n to_o â—oted_a first_o that_o all_o suffering_n of_o pain_n in_o man_n be_v from_o god_n either_o proper_o from_o his_o justice_n or_o from_o his_o holy_a love_n either_o from_o he_o alone_o or_o also_o from_o his_o instrument_n and_o inferior_a mean_n again_o all_o suffering_n of_o paines_n be_v for_o sin_n either_o inherent_a or_o impute_v either_o as_o correction_n or_o as_o punishment_n either_o immediate_o or_o mediate_o as_o anon_o we_o shall_v further_o see_v sec_n by_o the_o law_n of_o our_o creation_n as_o we_o be_v man_n have_v a_o soul_n beside_o our_o body_n so_o our_o soul_n have_v in_o it_o a_o 3._o fold_v faculty_n of_o suffer_a pain_n first_o that_o which_o be_v proper_a and_o immediate_a just_o so_o call_v 〈◊〉_d â—ee_o kind_n 〈◊〉_d soâ—â—es_v â—â—â—ing_v of_o 〈◊〉_d proper_a because_o it_o be_v proper_a only_a to_o reasonable_a and_o immortal_a spirit_n although_o in_o man_n if_o it_o grow_v vehement_a it_o affect_v consequent_o the_o body_n also_o immediate_a 2._o way_n 1._o because_o it_o can_v &_o do_v receive_v a_o impression_n of_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n make_v from_o god_n only_o by_o and_o in_o itself_o without_o any_o outward_a bodily_a mean_n thereunto_o 2._o it_o be_v also_o a_o immediate_a punishment_n or_o else_o correction_n of_o sin_n it_o come_v not_o for_o any_o other_o cause_n at_o all_o so_o that_o thus_o we_o mean_v when_o we_o speak_v of_o the_o soul_n proper_a and_o immediate_a suffer_v the_o soul_n second_o faculty_n of_o suffer_a pain_n be_v not_o proper_a but_o common_a to_o we_o with_o beast_n namely_o that_o which_o be_v by_o sympathy_n &_o communion_n with_o and_o from_o the_o body_n for_o which_o cause_n also_o it_o be_v not_o immediate_a since_o it_o come_v not_o to_o the_o soul_n but_o by_o external_a bodily_a mean_n a_o three_o kind_n of_o painful_a suffer_v the_o soul_n have_v namely_o her_o vehement_a &_o strong_a affection_n be_v painful_a whether_o they_o be_v good_a or_o evil_n as_o zeal_n love_n compassion_n pity_n care_n etc._n etc._n neither_o be_v these_o immediate_o for_o sin_n whether_o punishment_n or_o correction_n but_o they_o come_v for_o and_o by_o other_o immediate_a cause_n 5._o â—â—tions_n no_o â—â—at_a â—or_a 〈◊〉_d punish_v 〈◊〉_d 5._o neither_o be_v they_o punishment_n or_o correction_n at_o all_o
acknowledge_v my_o error_n add_v hereunto_o that_o experience_n show_v as_o physician_n say_v how_o some_o disease_n in_o the_o body_n bring_v death_n present_o after_o most_o strong_a and_o violent_a cry_n namely_o in_o some_o excessive_a torment_n as_o of_o the_o stone_n etc._n etc._n where_o in_o through_o extreme_a pain_n and_o torment_v the_o vital_a spirit_n be_v dissipate_v will_v be_v utter_o extinct_a sometime_o before_o they_o can_v recover_v and_o gather_v again_o together_o thus_o a_o man_n have_v good_a strength_n and_o force_n in_o his_o body_n when_o such_o a_o disease_n rest_v not_o near_o the_o principal_a part_n of_o nature_n original_o it_o seem_v he_o may_v notwithstanding_o by_o violence_n of_o pain_n only_o give_v up_o the_o ghost_n at_o a_o sudden_a yet_o not_o miraculous_o but_o by_o the_o course_n of_o nature_n only_o 8._o pag_n 7._o ad_fw-la hedib_n quaest_a 8._o but_o *_o jerom_n say_v this_o be_v a_o great_a wonder_n and_o that_o thereupon_o the_o centurion_n confess_v true_o this_o man_n be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n i_o deny_v not_o but_o christ_n may_v show_v some_o strange_a &_o unusual_a thing_n apparent_o to_o the_o beholder_n in_o utter_v his_o last_o voice_n when_o he_o cry_v father_n into_o thy_o hand_n i_o commend_v my_o spirit_n which_o may_v also_o very_o much_o move_v the_o beholder_n and_o hearer_n and_o yet_o it_o shall_v not_o follow_v that_o death_n seize_v upon_o he_o not_o natural_o or_o not_o by_o the_o fail_a of_o nature_n strength_n in_o he_o i_o say_v this_o may_v be_v acknowledge_v and_o yet_o very_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n at_o all_o to_o yield_v even_o this_o for_o any_o thing_n that_o the_o text_n note_v yet_o jerom_n say_v the_o centurion_n be_v move_v with_o this_o great_a wonder_n it_o be_v strange_a that_o you_o shall_v persist_v to_o urge_v jerom_n herein_o against_o the_o plain_a text_n in_o another_o place_n 27.54_o mat._n 27.54_o which_o say_v when_o the_o centurion_n see_v the_o earth_n quake_v and_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v do_v he_o say_v true_o this_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n 51._o â—er_n 51._o here_o it_o be_v express_o note_v that_o the_o *_o earthquake_n chief_o with_o other_o apparent_a miracle_n there_o mention_v or_o else_o the_o earthquake_n with_o the_o the_o injury_n of_o the_o persecutor_n and_o the_o innocency_n and_o partience_n of_o christ_n persecute_v compare_v together_o do_v move_v the_o centurion_n to_o confess_v and_o say_v true_o this_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n here_o it_o be_v plain_a then_o that_o not_o christ_n cry_v in_o those_o torment_n be_v such_o a_o wonder_n or_o that_o the_o centurion_n be_v by_o reason_n thereof_o move_v to_o acknowledge_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n as_o jerom_n collect_v i_o know_v not_o from_o what_o ground_n but_o those_o other_o sight_n before_o say_v last_o of_o all_o austin_n be_v bring_v to_o prove_v this_o matter_n 8._o pag_n 8._o but_o with_o no_o more_o strength_n of_o reason_n by_o the_o scripture_n than_o the_o former_a neither_o can_v his_o word_n indeed_o be_v grant_v necessary_o conclude_v any_o thing_n for_o your_o purpose_n which_o as_o seem_v do_v show_v nothing_o but_o christ_n voluntary_a die_a and_o that_o at_o his_o death_n he_o â—hewâ—d_v great_a power_n and_o not_o infirmity_n only_o who_o deny_v thâ—se_a thing_n thâ—n_v he_o proceed_v to_o show_v my_o disdain_n to_o the_o father_n further_a name_o for_o such_o 2d_o such_o pag_n 2d_o insolent_a reject_v all_o their_o opinion_n touch_v the_o cause_n of_o christ_n agony_n in_o the_o garden_n and_o of_o his_o complaint_n on_o the_o cross_n these_o suppose_a cause_n be_v allege_v and_o amplify_v in_o the_o 1â—_n the_o pag_n 1â—_n former_a part_n for_o answer_v first_o i_o dâ—siâ—e_v to_o know_v whether_o you_o allow_v of_o all_o these_o cause_n or_o not_o you_o sâ—â—me_v to_o â—â—fuse_v they_o 13â—_n they_o pag_n 13â—_n here_o for_o herein_o you_o show_v not_o your_o own_o opinion_n but_o â—he_v judgment_n of_o the_o father_n elsewhere_o 29_o elsewhere_o pag_n 29_o yourself_o be_v resolute_a for_o some_o of_o these_o cause_n and_o against_o other_o some_o and_o yet_o before_o 37_o before_o pag_n 37_o all_o these_o interpretation_n you_o say_v be_v sound_n and_o stand_v well_o with_o the_o rule_n of_o christian_a piety_n thus_o variable_a you_o be_v in_o that_o wherein_o you_o seem_v most_o resolut_a howbeit_o in_o my_o mind_n where_o you_o deny_v these_o to_o be_v your_o opinion_n there_o you_o be_v in_o the_o best_a opinion_n neither_o indeed_o to_o tell_v you_o plain_o can_v i_o be_v of_o opinion_n that_o those_o their_o judgement_n be_v true_a â—â—_o pag_n â—â—_o the_o reason_n of_o my_o dissent_v be_v touch_v in_o †_o my_o former_a treatise_n and_o be_v maintain_v further_o hereafter_o as_o very_o sufficient_a and_o just_a how_o then_o i_o pray_v you_o do_v i_o insolent_o reject_v the_o father_n if_o herein_o i_o dissent_v from_o they_o just_o which_o even_o yourself_o also_o do_v in_o sundry_a of_o they_o but_o my_o manner_n of_o speech_n be_v insolent_a perhaps_o because_o i_o say_v such_o collection_n be_v absurd_a and_o unlikely_a i_o answer_v these_o my_o word_n be_v purposely_o mean_v of_o those_o in_o these_o day_n that_o delight_v to_o vaunt_v of_o the_o father_n and_o chief_o in_o their_o error_n for_o see_v these_o opinion_n themselves_o be_v untrue_a though_o some_o of_o the_o father_n incline_v after_o they_o yet_o such_o in_o our_o time_n as_o urge_v they_o can_v but_o be_v absurd_a and_o strange_a teacher_n who_o have_v so_o many_o help_n and_o mean_n to_o discern_v where_o the_o father_n mistake_v which_o they_o utter_o want_v and_o we_o abound_v with_o all_o yet_o do_v so_o littlâ—_n profit_n by_o they_o that_o even_o great_a doctor_n as_o they_o desire_v to_o be_v think_v see_v not_o so_o much_o in_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o many_o young_a man_n now_o perceive_v and_o in_o the_o father_n they_o make_v themselves_o so_o cunning_a that_o common_o their_o sound_a doctrine_n they_o little_a regard_n their_o fault_n only_o they_o admire_v such_o i_o mean_v and_o take_v for_o absurd_a gatherer_n from_o this_o scripture_n who_o here_o i_o note_v by_o the_o namâ—_n of_o our_o contraries_n the_o father_n i_o call_v not_o so_o now_o that_o this_o indâ—ed_n may_v be_v also_o see_v even_o in_o your_o expound_v here_o consider_v first_o how_o you_o waver_v and_o speak_v contrary_o in_o these_o suppose_a cause_n 68_o christ_n submission_n â—â—e_z lewes_z reaction_n â—â—e_z church_n â—â—spersion_n 〈◊〉_d pa_n 17_o &_o â—_o â—2_n 37._o treat_v 1._o â—ag_n 68_o as_o i_o note_v a_o little_a before_o again_o these_o agree_v not_o with_o any_o circumstance_n of_o the_o passion_n and_o so_o be_v mere_o of_o humane_a conjecture_n without_o all_o scripture_n also_o they_o agree_v not_o together_o among_o themselves_o one_o of_o they_o cross_v another_o one_o overthrow_v another_o will_v you_o then_o avouch_v they_o as_o you_o do_v to_o be_v *_o all_n sound_n and_o to_o stand_v well_o with_o the_o rule_n of_o christian_a piety_n howbeit_o absolute_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o thâ—se_a or_o some_o of_o these_o reason_n be_v in_o christ_n at_o his_o passion_n as_o namely_o his_o care_n for_o his_o church_n his_o love_n of_o his_o enemy_n etc._n etc._n for_o these_o holy_a affection_n he_o never_o want_v all_o his_o life_n long_o but_o this_o rather_o confute_v than_o prove_v these_o to_o be_v the_o very_a cause_n or_o cause_n that_o †_o in_o the_o hour_n of_o his_o dreadful_a passion_n wrought_v in_o he_o such_o agony_n and_o consternation_n of_o mind_n 6._o â—ag_n 6._o but_o these_o thing_n here_o i_o omit_v be_v hereafter_o more_o full_o discuss_v last_o you_o cast_v a_o needle_n rebuke_v upon_o i_o for_o confound_a the_o cause_n of_o the_o agony_n and_o of_o the_o complaint_n together_o 230.231_o 〈◊〉_d 230.231_o forsooth_o that_o be_v do_v not_o without_o reason_n i_o think_v every_o reasonable_a man_n i_o believe_v will_v say_v that_o the_o same_o cause_n be_v of_o they_o both_o in_o christ_n his_o agony_n and_o his_o complaint_n be_v not_o so_o contrary_a nor_o so_o divers_a but_o that_o they_o may_v yea_o very_o do_v proceed_v from_o the_o same_o cause_n and_o ground_n yea_o ambrose_n 20._o 〈◊〉_d 20._o one_o of_o your_o author_n do_v *_o plain_o join_v they_o both_o together_o 231._o 〈◊〉_d 231._o yea_o yourself_o do_v also_o as_o by_o compare_v †_o your_o cause_n of_o the_o agony_n 34._o 〈◊〉_d 34._o with_o your_o 1._o or_o 2._o of_o the_o ‡_o complaint_n will_v appear_v you_o have_v much_o cause_n then_o have_v you_o not_o to_o make_v such_o outâ—â—yes_n upon_o i_o that_o i_o be_o strange_o amaze_v confound_v and_o forgetful_a in_o my_o writing_n good_a word_n i_o pray_v you_o i_o do_v but_o join_v they_o together_o who_o yourself_o
common_a sense_n of_o god_n wrath_n so_o in_o my_o whole_a treatise_n i_o take_v it_o for_o god_n perfect_a holiness_n justice_n &_o power_n 9_o power_n joh._n 3â—_n psal_n 2d_o 2._o cor_fw-la 9_o proper_o execute_v vengeance_n &_o punishment_n whether_o little_a or_o great_a due_a to_o they_o on_o who_o sin_n lie_v but_o you_o general_o do_v so_o carry_v this_o phrase_n as_o signify_v any_o punishment_n of_o sin_n whatsoever_o and_o namely_o the_o affliction_n which_o the_o very_a godly_a do_v suffer_v which_o be_v altogether_o a_o unproper_a speech_n this_o i_o observe_v most_o special_o in_o one_o place_n of_o your_o book_n above_o other_o where_o you_o say_v 1â—_n say_v pag._n 1â—_n all_o kind_n of_o trouble_n pain_n and_o grief_n in_o our_o state_n body_n and_o mind_n which_o shorten_v or_o sour_a this_o present_a life_n be_v degree_n of_o god_n wrath_n and_o chasticement_n of_o out_o transgression_n &_o corruption_n which_o present_o you_o prove_v by_o many_o needless_a scripture_n and_o from_o this_o sense_n of_o his_o father_n wrath_n you_o do_v not_o exempt_v the_o lord_n christ._n you_o mean_v that_o this_o he_o suffer_v indeed_o and_o that_o this_o be_v all_o in_o your_o opinion_n it_o be_v true_a all_o trouble_n pain_n &_o grief_n in_o their_o first_o ordinance_n a_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n &_o â—â—ou_fw-mi do_v 〈◊〉_d rightâ—â—â—_n 275._o &_o but_o in_o their_o state_n and_o condition_n now_o they_o be_v b_o not_o namely_o as_o the_o godly_a do_v suffer_v they_o which_o we_o must_v here_o note_v and_o consider_v well_o 132_o â—â—at_fw-la 1.14_o â—_o 132_o you_o say_v right_a also_o this_o †_o because_o it_o seem_v grievous_a for_o the_o present_a and_o not_o joyous_a be_v call_v sometime_o in_o the_o scripture_n the_o rod_n and_o wrath_n of_o god_n true_a it_o seem_v but_o indeed_o it_o be_v not_o so_o or_o it_o ought_v not_o so_o to_o be_v for_o c_o it_o seem_v otherwise_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o faith_n and_o knowledge_n 19_o 〈◊〉_d 1.2_o â—_o 2.28_o 〈◊〉_d &_o 2_o cor._n â—0_n â—efore_o pa._n â—â—_o 19_o then_o god_n wrath_n in_o this_o sense_n be_v very_o unproper_o take_v as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v wherefore_o speak_v proper_o &_o exact_o as_o in_o this_o controversy_n we_o ought_v according_a to_o the_o reveal_v mind_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n it_o be_v chastisement_n &_o correction_n it_o be_v not_o in_o any_o wise_a wrath_n or_o punishment_n proper_o mean_v neither_o may_v it_o be_v say_v proper_o that_o his_o justice_n lead_v he_o to_o inflict_v it_o on_o we_o as_o e_o you_o affirm_v but_o it_o be_v his_o holiness_n and_o love_n towards_o his_o child_n which_o chasten_v they_o 132._o 〈◊〉_d 132._o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n which_o say_v 12.10_o 〈◊〉_d 12.10_o f_z god_n chasten_v we_o for_o our_o profit_n that_o we_o may_v be_v partaker_n of_o his_o holiness_n and_o g_o who_o the_o lord_n love_v he_o chasten_v 11.32_o 〈◊〉_d 6.7_o 〈◊〉_d 11.32_o he_o scourge_v every_o son_n that_o he_o receave_v if_o we_o endure_v chasten_v god_n offer_v himself_o unto_o we_o as_o unto_o son_n for_o what_o son_n be_v it_o who_o the_o father_n chasten_v not_o therefore_o to_o speak_v properly_z not_o god_n justice_n but_o his_o holiness_n and_o fatherly_a love_n do_v move_v he_o to_o lay_v whatsoever_o cross_n and_o trouble_n upon_o his_o child_n he_o be_v not_o unto_o they_o a_o judge_n or_o revenger_n but_o a_o father_n neither_o be_v it_o wrath_n that_o come_v from_o he_o or_o vengeance_n for_o sin_n proper_o 11._o â—â—r_fw-fr 11._o but_z h_z amendment_n in_o love_n towards_o the_o godly_a now_o the_o case_n with_o christ_n be_v clean_o otherwise_o he_o need_v no_o amendment_n but_o that_o which_o he_o suffer_v be_v right_a punishment_n he_o be_v neither_o in_o case_n as_o the_o wicked_a nor_o yet_o simple_o as_o the_o godly_a he_o differ_v from_o they_o both_o and_o yet_o in_o some_o point_n do_v partake_v of_o both_o their_o condition_n he_o be_v like_o the_o godly_a in_o that_o he_o be_v high_o belove_v of_o god_n and_o have_v no_o manner_n of_o sin_n of_o his_o own_o lay_v to_o his_o charge_n he_o be_v like_o the_o wicked_a and_o differ_v from_o the_o case_n of_o the_o godly_a great_o because_o he_o be_v lade_v &_o charge_v with_o sin_n yea_o with_o all_o manner_n of_o sin_n &_o sustain_v their_o due_a punishment_n there_o be_v also_o none_o other_o at_o all_o to_o endure_v the_o vengeance_n of_o god_n for_o they_o but_o himself_o as_o we_o have_v large_o show_v before_o in_o open_v the_o state_n of_o our_o question_n thus_o than_o whatsoever_o christ_n suffer_v and_o special_o at_o his_o death_n be_v very_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n from_o god_n proper_o take_v true_a punishment_n and_o justice_n execute_v against_o sin_n &_o for_o sin_n to_o the_o which_o he_o be_v in_o some_o sort_n condemn_v and_o appoint_v also_o this_o be_v the_o true_a curse_n of_o the_o law_n which_o thus_o he_o sustain_v for_o us._n nevertheless_o in_o all_o this_o his_o case_n be_v extraordinary_a his_o condition_n in_o the_o like_a punishment_n utter_o unlike_a to_o the_o wicked_a for_o his_o own_o nature_n be_v still_o for_o all_o this_o most_o holy_a faithful_a steadfast_a love_v the_o lord_n and_o belove_v of_o he_o albeit_o in_o his_o office_n of_o redeem_v we_o and_o suretyship_n for_o we_o he_o do_v sustain_v true_o and_o not_o unproper_o as_o the_o godly_a do_v the_o lord_n very_a wrath_n against_o sin_n which_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o here_o be_v now_o the_o power_n of_o god_n to_o be_v deep_o consider_v together_o with_o his_o unspeakable_a justice_n and_o love_n and_o holiness_n even_o one_o of_o the_o great_a mystery_n of_o christian_a religion_n which_o to_o unfold_v what_o tongue_n be_v able_a yea_o what_o heart_n can_v conceive_v it_o and_o yet_o most_o necessary_a &_o most_o comfortable_a to_o be_v understand_v of_o all_o man_n namely_o how_o the_o lord_n have_v assign_v to_o his_o son_n in_o the_o work_n of_o redemption_n 2._o personne_n as_o it_o be_v or_o countenance_n or_o condition_n his_o own_o natural_o which_o god_n ever_o dear_o love_v &_o our_o countenance_n or_o person_n or_o condition_n which_o he_o sustain_v by_o his_o office_n which_o condition_n the_o lord_n true_o wordâ—_n true_o as_o yoâ—â—_n god_n câ—â—_n pag._n 26â—_n in_o deed_n in_o wordâ—_n accurse_v and_o punish_v only_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o pain_n of_o god_n vengeance_n come_v indeed_o unto_o his_o most_o holy_a nature_n the_o curse_v the_o hatred_n the_o wrath_n and_o judgement_n of_o god_n be_v quench_v therewith_o his_o own_o nature_n feel_v the_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n of_o the_o curse_n and_o hatred_n but_o the_o hatred_n &_o curse_n be_v bend_v against_o the_o load_n of_o our_o sin_n wherein_o he_o stand_v forth_o as_o guilty_a before_o god_n and_o appear_v as_o it_o be_v clothe_v therewith_o this_o be_v love_n and_o mercy_n to_o we_o this_o be_v justice_n upon_o christ_n have_v undertake_v for_o we_o this_o be_v infinite_a power_n and_o wisdom_n both_o way_n in_o god_n to_o bring_v it_o to_o pass_v which_o no_o creature_n can_v comprehend_v his_o holiness_n and_o love_n still_o chasten_v his_o redeem_a one_o but_o lay_v no_o part_n of_o true_a punishment_n or_o proper_a vengeance_n for_o sin_n upon_o they_o which_o christ_n only_o do_v for_o they_o whole_o sustain_v thus_o also_o see_v christ_n indeed_o have_v no_o sin_n in_o he_o as_o the_o godly_a have_v to_o be_v correct_v neither_o can_v be_v correct_v &_o chastice_v for_o nothing_o therefore_o proper_o he_o be_v not_o chastise_v nor_o correct_v at_o all_o but_o his_o affliction_n every_o one_o both_o small_a and_o great_a be_v true_a and_o proper_a punishment_n and_o the_o effect_n of_o god_n very_a wrath_n for_o our_o sin_n lie_v upon_o he_o 245._o 〈◊〉_d 245._o some_o where_o a_o you_o say_v christ_n may_v suffer_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n in_o his_o body_n yea_o in_o his_o soul_n he_o may_v suffer_v it_o and_o yet_o not_o the_o pain_n of_o the_o damn_a or_o of_o hell_n we_o grant_v you_o say_v true_a christ_n suffer_v not_o the_o pain_n of_o the_o damn_a nor_o of_o hell_n understand_v this_o for_o the_o very_a same_o condition_n &_o state_n alltogeather_o b_o as_o the_o damn_a be_v in_o 49.50_o 〈◊〉_d you_o deâ—â—â—e_v it_o pag._n â—0_n 49.50_o we_o abhor_v such_o blasphemy_n as_o much_o as_o you_o that_o christ_n so_o suffer_v hell_n pain_n yea_o albeit_o i_o know_v you_o be_v far_o from_o think_v so_o yet_o i_o say_v your_o word_n do_v come_v near_o unto_o it_o then_o we_o do_v 15.16_o â—â—g_v 15.16_o as_o be_v c_o before_o note_v but_o i_o ask_v do_v you_o grant_v that_o christ_n suffer_v god_n wrath_n in_o spirit_n as_o the_o apostle_n do_v somewhere_o distinguish_v the_o spirit_n &_o soul_n if_o
other_o sense_n at_o all_o which_o these_o word_n may_v seem_v rather_o to_o admit_v wherefore_o this_o be_v more_o than_o half_a a_o conclusion_n against_o you_o that_o my_o interpretation_n and_o application_n of_o it_o be_v unjust_o by_o you_o reprove_v then_o 2d_o then_o pag._n 2d_o you_o come_v to_o confute_v my_o four_o reason_n but_o the_o main_a point_n thereof_o you_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o touch_v 1_o i_o 45._o i_o treatâ—_n pa._n 45._o show_v that_o the_o godly_a sometime_o in_o this_o life_n do_v feel_v a_o taste_n of_o god_n infinite_a wrath_n and_o even_o of_o hellish_a sorrow_n 2._o that_o christ_n our_o redeemer_n suffer_v for_o we_o as_o deep_o yea_o deep_o than_o ever_o any_o of_o we_o here_o do_v suffer_v or_o can_v suffer_v but_o all_o this_o you_o can_v here_o clean_o pass_v over_o without_o any_o word_n to_o it_o whereupon_o it_o follow_v sound_o that_o christ_n indeed_o suffer_v in_o spirit_n the_o true_a effect_n of_o god_n wrath_n and_o even_o the_o sense_n of_o hellish_a sorrow_n howbeit_o in_o a_o other_o reason_n of_o i_o not_o unlike_a to_o that_o you_o think_v you_o can_v pick_v more_o advantage_n against_o some_o word_n i_o show_v out_o of_o the_o hebrews_n that_o christ_n succour_v we_o not_o but_o wherein_o he_o have_v experience_n of_o our_o temptation_n and_o infirmity_n now_o he_o succour_v we_o even_o in_o the_o feel_n of_o the_o terror_n of_o god_n and_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n in_o our_o soul_n therefore_o he_o himself_o have_v experience_n of_o the_o same_o &_o pa_n 66._o &_o i_o meave_v c_o always_o so_o far_o as_o be_v possible_a that_o be_v in_o the_o extremity_n of_o the_o sorrow_n &_o pain_n thereof_o no_o further_o where_o note_v that_o the_o word_n of_o this_o proposition_n be_v not_o any_o whit_n more_o general_a neither_o include_v they_o any_o thing_n less_o tolerable_a than_o the_o text_n itself_o do_v 2.17_o â—eb_fw-mi 2.17_o thus_o do_v wherefore_o in_o all_o thing_n it_o behoove_v he_o or_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v make_v like_o unto_o his_o brethren_n 2d_o hebr_n 4.15_o â—om_n 8.19_o â—â—ch_a 20_o 2d_o e_o like_v in_o temptation_n infirmity_n and_o f_o affliction_n only_o except_o sin_n that_o he_o may_v be_v a_o merciful_a and_o faithful_a highpriest_n in_o thing_n concern_v god_n for_o in_o that_o which_o himself_o suffer_v and_o be_v tempt_v in_o he_o be_v able_a to_o succour_v they_o which_o be_v tempt_v first_o en_fw-fr hó_n in_o that_o which_o himself_o suffer_v signify_v either_o the_o matter_n wherein_o christ_n be_v able_a to_o succour_v we_o or_o the_o mean_n whereby_o he_o become_v able_a that_o be_v to_o say_v ready_a and_o sit_v to_o succour_v we_o or_o else_o the_o occasion_n and_o reason_n why_o he_o be_v the_o ready_a to_o succour_v we_o even_o in_o that_o himself_o suffer_v and_o be_v tempt_v he_o be_v able_a to_o succour_v they_o who_o be_v tempt_v as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v be_v it_o not_o that_o himself_o by_o his_o own_o feel_n know_v the_o misery_n of_o our_o suffering_n and_o temptation_n he_o have_v not_o be_v so_o ready_a to_o succour_v we_o in_o all_o we_o not_o with_o such_o compassion_n as_o now_o he_o be_v which_o way_n soever_o of_o these_o 3_o we_o take_v these_o word_n yet_o they_o plain_o infer_v that_o christ_n himself_o feel_v all_o the_o misery_n and_o smart_n of_o our_o suffering_n and_o temptation_n which_o we_o at_o any_o time_n do_v feel_v &_o wherein_o we_o be_v succour_v thus_o as_o i_o have_v show_v neither_o do_v you_o gainsay_v the_o godly_a sometime_o feel_v a_o infinite_a pain_n of_o god_n *_o wrath_n and_o of_o hellish_a sorrow_n in_o this_o life_n â—â—ch_a â—o_z their_z â—â—e_z it_o seeâ—â—h_v â—â—well_v â—â—ch_a christ_n therefore_o feel_v the_o same_o indeed_o to_o succour_v we_o thereby_o whereunto_o serve_v our_o public_a doctrine_n g_o diram_fw-la execrationem_fw-la quâ_fw-la scelera_fw-la nos_fw-la nostra_fw-la de_fw-la vinxerat_fw-la in_o se_fw-la suscepit_fw-la ut_fw-la eâ_fw-la nos_fw-la hoc_fw-la pacto_fw-la exolveret_fw-la albeit_o here_o the_o first_o way_n seem_v to_o i_o not_o the_o unlikely_a that_o the_o apostle_n shall_v signify_v all_o the_o matter_n namely_o that_o kind_n of_o pain_n wherein_o he_o succour_v we_o even_o that_o which_o himself_o also_o have_v experience_n of_o and_o this_o also_o those_o word_n kata_fw-la panta_fw-la in_o all_o thing_n do_v full_o import_v but_o indeed_o all_o be_v but_o one_o &_o the_o same_o in_o effect_n as_o i_o say_v sec_n we_o must_v note_v that_o in_o these_o word_n christ_n be_v like_o we_o in_o all_o temptation_n and_o affliction_n we_o be_v to_o understand_v h_o all_o that_o be_v incident_a to_o mankind_n general_o &c_n 〈◊〉_d before_o 〈◊〉_d 48._o &c_n &c_n not_o which_o happen_v to_o any_o man_n particular_o all_o the_o particular_a cross_n in_o the_o world_n neither_o can_v nor_o can_v possible_o come_v to_o any_o man_n also_o that_o he_o suffer_v not_o only_o in_o one_o or_o in_o some_o part_n of_o our_o nature_n but_o in_o all_o and_o every_o part_n even_o in_o spirit_n and_o soul_n and_o body_n like_a as_o we_o be_v apt_a &_o able_a to_o suffer_v again_o all_o the_o particular_n which_o by_o god_n providence_n he_o suffer_v not_o be_v far_o less_o in_o pain_n &_o terror_n then_o the_o general_a pain_n be_v which_o he_o do_v suffer_v and_o thus_o right_a well_o be_v christ_n say_v to_o be_v like_o we_o in_o all_o our_o temptation_n and_o suffering_n that_o be_v at_o least_o like_o we_o indeed_o beyond_o we_o in_o all_o the_o extremity_n and_o violence_n of_o they_o and_o exceed_v much_o more_o deep_o plunge_v therein_o as_o well_o therefore_o you_o may_v have_v give_v a_o good_a sense_n of_o my_o word_n if_o you_o have_v have_v any_o mind_n thereto_o as_o of_o these_o general_a and_o large_a word_n of_o the_o scripture_n whereupon_o i_o ground_n myself_o but_o very_o chariritable_o you_o can_v infer_v upon_o my_o reason_n then_o christ_n have_v his_o eye_n put_v out_o for_o so_o have_v samson_n he_o be_v swallow_v up_o by_o a_o whall_n for_o so_o be_v jonas_n he_o be_v cast_v into_o a_o burn_a furnace_n for_o so_o be_v sidrac_n mishac_n &_o abednego_n he_o be_v stone_v to_o death_n for_o so_o be_v naboth_n and_o steven_n in_o deed_n i_o have_v be_v as_o foolish_a and_o as_o doltish_a as_o you_o do_v make_v i_o if_o i_o have_v tream_v so_o care_v we_o therefore_o i_o pray_v that_o indifferency_n which_o all_o reason_n and_o use_v of_o speech_n permit_v namely_o that_o general_a term_n be_v understand_v according_a to_o the_o possibility_n and_o propabilitie_n of_o the_o matter_n that_o be_v that_o the_o apostle_n and_o i_o both_o do_v speak_v of_o all_o the_o suffering_n of_o mankind_n in_o general_a and_o of_o each_o part_n of_o humane_a nature_n apt_a to_o suffer_v but_o not_o of_o every_o particular_a in_o each_o of_o they_o or_o which_o each_o man_n meet_v with_o all_o then_o where_o 287_o where_o pag_n 287_o you_o examine_v i_o what_o i_o mâ—ane_v whether_o christ_n be_v not_o able_a or_o not_o will_v to_o succour_v we_o in_o other_o thing_n than_o he_o himself_o do_v suffer_v my_o answer_n be_v ask_v the_o apostle_n what_o he_o mean_v in_o saying_n kata_fw-la panta_fw-la in_o all_o thing_n it_o behove_v he_o to_o be_v like_o his_o brethren_n that_o he_o may_v be_v a_o merciful_a and_o faith_n full_a highpriest_n and_o dynam_n as_o he_o be_v thus_o able_a to_o succour_v we_o as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v he_o be_v not_o any_o otherway_v able_a then_o in_o that_o himself_o have_v also_o suffer_v be_v tempt_v in_o all_o thing_n kata_n homotótet_fw-la a_o like_a unto_o us._n how_o be_v it_o i_o understand_v he_o not_o to_o speak_v here_o of_o christ_n absolu_fw-la omnipotency_n what_o he_o can_v have_v do_v as_o god_n if_o he_o will_v but_o of_o his_o ability_n by_o dispensation_n receive_v in_o his_o manhood_n by_o the_o ordinance_n and_o appointment_n of_o god_n as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v thus_o have_v god_n appoint_v he_o &_o enable_v he_o to_o succour_v we_o and_o not_o otherwise_o where_o we_o will_v not_o stick_v to_o grant_v you_o your_o sense_n that_o he_o may_v be_v the_o better_a able_a to_o have_v compassion_n on_o us._n in_o effect_n these_o exposition_n differ_v not_o much_o and_o thus_o this_o scriptured_n trust_n be_v clear_v and_o my_o reason_n justify_v christ_n succour_v we_o not_o in_o any_o extreme_a kind_n of_o pain_n they_o himself_o have_v experience_n of_o sin_n which_o also_o â—ough_o all_o general_o feel_v â—t_z yet_o general_o it_o be_v due_a 〈◊〉_d all_o in_o reâ—â—ect_n of_o sin_n but_o he_o succour_v we_o in_o the_o â—_o feel_o of_o the_o terror_n of_o god_n he_o release_v we_o of_o the_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n unmeasurable_a that_o rise_v thereof_o therefore_o himself_o have_v
â—â—bâ—_n 5.7_o again_o if_o you_o mean_v that_o all_o this_o be_v voluntary_a in_o he_o and_o not_o feel_v indeed_o according_a to_o the_o outward_a semblance_n and_o as_o man_n behold_v he_o will_v iudgâ—_n 22.43_o luc._n 22.43_o than_o belike_o you_o make_v he_o to_o have_v counterfeit_a which_o think_v god_n for_o bid_v shall_v ever_o come_v into_o any_o christian_n heart_n for_o no_o cause_n you_o say_v f_o i_o jest_n and_o iybe_v with_o the_o apostle_n word_n 302._o pag._n 302._o but_o i_o fear_v this_o be_v to_o jest_n and_o iybe_v in_o deed_n with_o the_o most_o dreadful_a and_o bitter_a sorrow_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o work_v for_o we_o our_o salvation_n and_o here_o why_o say_v you_o not_o aswell_o that_o his_o death_n and_o bloodshed_n on_o the_o cross_n show_v in_o he_o no_o pain_n nor_o infirmity_n but_o only_o that_o voluntary_o he_o make_v himself_o there_o the_o true_a priest_n and_z pe_z form_v the_o prefigure_v bloody_a and_o deadly_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n as_o good_a reason_n altogether_o you_o have_v to_o say_v so_o as_o to_o affirm_v it_o of_o his_o agony_n 29._o â—ag_n 29._o as_o for_o the_o scripture_n which_o g_o you_o cite_v they_o prove_v in_o deed_n that_o christ_n now_o execute_v his_o office_n of_o priesthood_n but_o will_v you_o divide_v &_o exempt_v his_o death_n on_o the_o cross_n from_o his_o priesthood_n there_o or_o his_o â—ines_n and_o fit_a mity_n from_o there_o the_o sanctify_a of_o himself_o do_v it_o not_o as_o well_o intend_v and_o comprehend_v that_o sacrifice_n on_o the_o cross_n as_o that_o of_o his_o prayer_n in_o the_o garden_n to_o think_v otherwife_n be_v without_o all_o show_n of_o truth_n or_o reason_n yet_o i_o see_v not_o why_o you_o shall_v cite_v these_o text_n unless_o you_o mean_v so_o neither_o can_v i_o see_v what_o else_o you_o mean_v where_o you_o conclude_v say_v christ_n agony_n be_v allege_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o demonstrat_fw-la christ_n priesthood_n must_v not_o rise_v from_o the_o terror_n of_o his_o own_o death_n 27._o â—ag_n 27._o and_o yet_o h_o a_o little_a before_o you_o open_o do_v confess_v and_o grant_v that_o his_o agony_n do_v rise_v from_o the_o fear_n of_o his_o death_n and_o that_o christ_n have_v far_o great_a cause_n than_o any_o of_o his_o member_n to_o fear_v it_o also_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o your_o cite_n of_o cyrill_n pag._n 25._o and_o here_o why_o shall_v i_o hilary_n deny_v that_o christ_n bloody_a sweat_n come_v of_o infirmity_n 28._o â—ag_n 28._o or_o k_o austin_n that_o his_o fear_n and_o perturbation_n be_v of_o infirmity_n 25._o â—ag_n 25._o sure_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n for_o though_o it_o be_v against_o the_o common_a course_n of_o our_o nature_n for_o any_o pain_n or_o fear_v to_o sweat_v blood_n yet_o the_o divine_a power_n with_o and_o through_o pain_n and_o fear_n may_v wring_v out_o of_o his_o body_n that_o trickle_a bloody_a sweat_n as_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o it_o do_v by_o the_o word_n next_o before_o in_o the_o text_n 44._o text_n luk._n 2_o 44._o a_o angel_n come_v to_o give_v he_o some_o comfort_n that_o be_v lest_o he_o shall_v have_v be_v overwhelm_v quite_o in_o his_o sorrow_n and_o discomfort_n but_o still_o he_o be_v in_o his_o agony_n and_o sweat_v like_o drop_n of_o blood_n trickle_v to_o the_o ground_n and_o present_o say_v my_o soul_n be_v full_a of_o sorrow_n even_o to_o death_n and_o thrice_o he_o pray_v that_o this_o cup_n and_o this_o hour_n may_v pass_v from_o he_o it_o can_v be_v therefore_o but_o that_o by_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n this_o sweat_n come_v though_o also_o god_n power_n cause_v it_o by_o lay_v upon_o his_o soul_n and_o body_n invisible_a supernatural_a &_o unspeakable_a sorrow_n and_o horror_n and_o by_o make_v his_o flesh_n visible_o to_o express_v in_o some_o sort_n this_o spiritual_a and_o extraordinary_a torment_n of_o pain_n and_o fear_v which_o he_o suffer_v and_o in_o deed_n where_o they_o say_v this_o say_v not_o infirmity_n but_o poâ—â—â—_n do_v this_o nec_fw-la infirmitas_fw-la quod_fw-la potestas_fw-la gessit_fw-la that_o prove_v the_o clean_a contrary_n for_o jdeo_n &_o infirmitas_fw-la quia_fw-la potestas_fw-la gessit_fw-la powâ—â—_n 2_o therefore_o there_o waâ—_n firmity_n â—â—cause_fw-mi thâ—â—â—_n be_v powâ—â—_n for_o the_o work_n of_o his_o power_n in_o he_o argue_v the_o suffering_n of_o his_o infirmity_n the_o power_n of_o god_n be_v peâ—fited_v in_o infirmÃtie_n and_o because_o it_o be_v above_o the_o course_n of_o nature_n therefore_o nature_n be_v herein_o oppress_v not_o exempt_v from_o pain_n thus_o these_o speak_v full_o for_o we_o and_o against_o you_o that_o here_o appear_v not_o christ_n infirmity_n only_o in_o suffer_v but_o his_o divine_a power_n also_o in_o punish_v and_o this_o i_o judge_v in_o deed_n to_o be_v their_o very_a meaning_n but_o those_o other_o mystical_a and_o figurative_a say_n of_o austin_n â—_o pag_n 28._o â—_o bede_n &_o bernard_n how_o shall_v we_o admit_v they_o without_o better_a warrant_n that_o christ_n bloudshead_n be_v to_o signify_v that_o martyr_n shall_v shed_v their_o blood_n what_o reason_n have_v we_o so_o to_o think_v or_o that_o his_o blood_n head_n shall_v signify_v the_o purge_n of_o his_o disciple_n heart_n from_o sin_n yea_o or_o of_o all_o his_o church_n in_o the_o whole_a world_n it_o do_v not_o signify_v this_o but_o it_o do_v it_o in_o deed_n last_o if_o it_o have_v thâ—se_a signification_n in_o it_o yet_o withal_o his_o agony_n may_v rise_v from_o his_o very_a pain_n &_o fear_v come_v from_o the_o present_a sense_n of_o god_n justice_n and_o wrath_n now_o reveal_v and_o work_v upon_o he_o hitherto_o we_o have_v make_v it_o manifest_v that_o in_o truth_n you_o have_v nothing_o in_o all_o these_o word_n against_o our_o doctrine_n that_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n be_v the_o true_a and_o proper_a cause_n of_o christ_n dreadful_a agony_n nor_o to_o prove_v that_o his_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n or_o death_n be_v the_o whole_a cause_n now_o we_o be_v to_o show_v the_o like_a in_o his_o most_o we_o full_a complaint_n on_o the_o cross_n where_o he_o say_v my_o god_n my_o god_n 27._o math_n 27._o why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o you_o will_v ask_v i_o here_o what_o kind_n of_o forsake_v may_v this_o be_v i_o show_v you_o plain_o 6â—_n plain_o treat_v 1_o â—_o 6â—_n 65_o 6â—_n before_o if_o you_o have_v regard_v it_o namely_o that_o christ_n be_v also_o now_o yea_o special_o in_o the_o feel_n of_o infinite_a pain_n inflict_v on_o he_o sundry_a way_n 112.113_o â—â—w_v christ_n on_o 〈◊〉_d cross_n be_v forsake_v of_o â—â—â—d_v see_v also_o â—â—â—g_a 112.113_o and_o that_o direct_o from_o god_n proper_a wrath_n for_o our_o sin_n he_o feel_v his_o whole_a humane_a nature_n for_o the_o time_n leave_v all_o comfortless_a and_o alone_a without_o any_o joyous_a assistance_n of_o his_o deity_n i_o say_v not_o that_o he_o want_v now_o all_o assistanc_fw-la of_o his_o deity_n for_o it_o sure_o will_v then_o have_v quite_o overwhelm_v he_o with_o this_o intolerable_a burden_n but_o his_o godhead_n as_o it_o be_v withdraw_v and_o hide_v itself_o from_o he_o for_o that_o season_n of_o his_o passion_n give_v he_o no_o sense_n nor_o feeling_n of_o ease_n comfort_n or_o joy_n but_o all_o the_o sense_n of_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n as_o well_o in_o spirit_n as_o in_o soul_n and_o body_n that_o may_v be_v all_o the_o sense_n of_o his_o joy_n and_o comfort_n for_o the_o while_n be_v clean_o go_v and_o whole_o swallow_v up_o in_o that_o huge_a &_o bottomless_a gulf_n of_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n issue_v upon_o he_o out_o from_o the_o fierce_a wrath_n of_o god_n howbeit_o yet_o even_o now_o he_o want_v not_o sufficient_a assistance_n of_o the_o deity_n to_o sustain_v he_o in_o life_n herein_o as_o i_o say_v 16.17_o phil._n 2.7_o rom._n 8.32_o â—eut_fw-fr 10_o 17._o â—â—c_n 16.17_o this_o be_v that_o extreme_a humiliation_n and_o exinanition_n of_o nature_n wherein_o †_o god_n spare_v not_o his_o son_n and_o wherein_o also_o christ_n spare_v not_o himself_o for_o he_o undertake_v all_o this_o most_o willing_o and_o yet_o be_v in_o it_o natural_o grieve_v and_o sorrow_v for_o it_o &_o at_o some_o moment_n be_v astonish_v with_o it_o sudden_o and_o natural_o desire_a ease_n and_o release_v from_o it_o this_o forsake_v or_o dereliction_n beseem_v the_o time_n place_n person_n and_o case_n of_o christ_n our_o ransompayer_n and_o purchaser_n of_o salvation_n with_o the_o price_n of_o his_o own_o most_o direful_a pain_n â—â—â—isse_n pag._n 24._o &c_n &c_n â—â—â—r_v 6._o exposition_n of_o christ_n conâ—â—aint_v be_v all_o â—â—â—isse_n not_o any_o other_o far_o fetch_v or_o hardly_o apply_v or_o strange_o devise_v by_o the_o brain_n of_o man_n as_o in_o truth_n all_o those_o other_o sense_n hereof_o be_v which_o you_o rather_o embrace_v
manhood_n also_o after_o so_o low_a humiliation_n final_o it_o be_v his_o own_o most_o free_a and_o fore_n determine_v will_n will_v he_o then_o so_o mournful_o grieve_v and_o complain_v thereat_o it_o have_v no_o reason_n nor_o likelihood_n in_o it_o 1st_a john_n 1st_a lazarus_n when_o he_o be_v return_v from_o the_o joy_n of_o heaven_n to_o take_v again_o his_o rot_a carcase_n oft_o it_o stanke_z have_v lyen_fw-we 4._o day_n dead_a in_o the_o grave_n yet_o he_o grieve_v not_o at_o it_o neither_o ought_v he_o so_o to_o have_v do_v much_o less_o ought_v christ_n so_o to_o grieve_v and_o mourn_v for_o a_o lesser_a want_n and_o for_o a_o short_a season_n as_o we_o may_v think_v then_o that_o be_v to_o lazarus_n but_o this_o matter_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o speak_n of_o 10â—_o of_o see_v bâ—_n to_o this_o puâ—_n pag._n 10â—_o any_o further_o neither_o do_v your_o father_n prove_v any_o such_o improbable_a yea_o unlawful_a mourning_n &_o complain_v in_o christ_n if_o they_o prove_v any_o thing_n towards_o your_o meaning_n it_o be_v this_o that_o he_o complain_v because_o of_o his_o bodily_a die_v howbeit_o they_o say_v not_o that_o he_o thus_o complain_v only_o and_o mere_o for_o that_o neither_o i_o think_v will_v you_o plain_o hold_v this_o neither_o do_v we_o deny_v the_o other_o the_o truth_n be_v they_o mean_v he_o suffer_v in_o his_o whole_a humane_a nature_n take_v how_o the_o â—â—thers_n be_v 〈◊〉_d take_v &_o namely_o that_o he_o suffer_v not_o as_o god_n they_o strive_v here_o with_o haeretike_n who_o controversy_n be_v far_o from_o this_o our_o question_n 〈◊〉_d question_n hilar._n 〈◊〉_d trin_n li._n 〈◊〉_d hilary_n and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o epiph._n 〈◊〉_d arioma_n 〈◊〉_d epiphanius_n write_v against_o arius_n to_o prove_v that_o christ_n in_o this_o complaint_n show_v right_o a_o humane_a infirmity_n and_o that_o this_o be_v not_o the_o voice_n of_o a_o deity_n inferior_a to_o the_o father_n as_o arius_n blaspheme_v these_o father_n than_o have_v no_o purpose_n here_o to_o exclude_v the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n soul_n but_o only_o to_o deny_v that_o his_o godhead_n suffer_v &_o complain_v as_o be_v leave_v to_o punishment_n by_o his_o father_n when_o the_o sorrow_n of_o death_n begin_v to_o prevail_v against_o he_o the_o very_a same_o do_v 〈◊〉_d do_v in_o maâ—â—_n can_v 33._o 〈◊〉_d hilary_n also_o where_o he_o say_v that_o this_o in_o christ_n be_v corporis_fw-la vox_fw-la the_o outcry_n of_o his_o body_n he_o plain_o mean_v it_o of_o his_o whole_a manhood_n the_o opposition_n be_v between_o it_o and_o his_o godhead_n 9_o â—reat_a 1._o â—â—g_n 9_o as_o the_o scripture_n †_o often_o do_v and_o where_o he_o say_v he_o be_v morte_fw-la peragendus_fw-la to_o be_v consummate_v by_o death_n he_o mean_v that_o death_n end_v all_o his_o suffering_n not_o that_o he_o suffer_v nothing_o else_o but_o mere_o death_n and_o if_o their_o word_n do_v any_o where_o come_v near_o to_o our_o question_n 33._o â—ertul_a count_n â—â—ax_fw-la â—â—ila_fw-la in_o mat._n â—â—au_o 33._o as_o it_o be_v very_o likely_a that_o h_o tertulian_n and_o the_o one_o place_n of_o i_o hilary_n do_v then_o sure_o they_o be_v plain_o for_o we_o and_o against_o you_o tertullian_n point_v in_o this_o place_n at_o certain_a heresy_n maintain_v in_o his_o time_n wherwth_v it_o seem_v praxeas_n be_v infect_v 1_o that_o the_o father_n suffer_v aswell_o as_o the_o son_n when_o christ_n suffer_v 2_o that_o the_o deity_n suffer_v 3_o that_o christ_n be_v no_o true_a nor_o perfect_a man_n all_o these_o point_n tertullian_n overthrow_v here_o quid_fw-la de_fw-la isto_fw-la quaeris_fw-la etc._n etc._n what_o inquire_v you_o of_o christ_n you_o hear_v he_o cry_v out_o in_o his_o passion_n my_o god_n my_o god_n why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o the_o son_n therefore_o suffer_v be_v forsake_v of_o his_o father_n but_o this_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o flesh_n and_o of_o the_o soul_n that_o be_v of_o the_o man_n not_o of_o the_o word_n nor_o of_o the_o spirit_n here_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o tertullian_n show_v beside_o the_o rest_n this_o point_n exact_o that_o christ_n be_v a_o very_a man_n in_o that_o he_o have_v a_o proper_a body_n and_o a_o soul_n and_o that_o this_o his_o suffering_n on_o the_o cross_n be_v in_o both_o these_o part_n and_o so_o in_o his_o whole_a &_o entire_a manhood_n also_o that_o he_o suffer_v in_o both_o these_o part_n even_o from_o his_o father_n 4_o â—eere_o pag._n 63._o â—at_a 1._o pa_n 4_o but_o he_o can_v not_o suffer_v in_o his_o soul_n from_o †_o god_n if_o he_o feel_v only_o and_o mere_o but_o a_o bodily_a death_n as_o you_o hold_v and_o to_o suffer_v the_o stroke_n of_o god_n hand_n in_o his_o soul_n as_o the_o proper_a vengeance_n of_o sin_n be_v far_o more_o than_o to_o feel_v in_o soul_n by_o sympathy_n only_o the_o body_n smart_n neither_o have_v tertull._n overthrow_v but_o confirm_v that_o heresy_n of_o christ_n being_n no_o true_a natural_a man_n if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o in_o this_o case_n he_o suffer_v in_o soul_n only_o by_o symphathy_n with_o and_o from_o the_o body_n but_o this_o be_v absurd_a to_o think_v in_o tertullian_n therefore_o in_o this_o place_n he_o be_v flat_o against_o you_o and_o this_o dereliction_n of_o his_o father_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o be_v death_n indeed_o to_o the_o son_n but_o what_o death_n forsooth_o more_o than_o the_o separation_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o body_n â—â—ne_v â—at_a death_n â—â—e_v soul_n in_o â—ist_v we_o â—â—ne_v even_o the_o separation_n of_o the_o deity_n from_o the_o whole_a manhood_n which_o be_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n i_o speak_v here_o nothing_o but_o the_o father_n word_n yea_o the_o scripture_n your_o own_o place_n of_o epiphanius_n say_v that_o now_o his_o deity_n depart_v from_o his_o manhood_n so_o say_v your_o own_o hilary_n also_o corporis_fw-la vox_fw-la contestata_fw-la recedentis_fw-la a_o se_fw-la dei_fw-la dissidium_fw-la so_o say_v ambrose_n clamavit_fw-la homo_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la separatione_fw-la moriturus_fw-la the_o man_n christ_n do_v cry_v be_v about_o to_o die_v by_o the_o separation_n of_o his_o godhead_n again_o sequestrata_n delectatione_n divinitatis_fw-la aternae_fw-la taedio_fw-la meae_fw-la infirmitatis_fw-la afficitur_fw-la the_o joy_n of_o his_o eternal_a godhead_n be_v part_v away_o he_o be_v afflict_v with_o the_o tediousnis_n of_o my_o infirmity_n here_o the_o father_n do_v show_v in_o deed_n that_o christ_n die_v but_o more_o than_o a_o mere_a bodily_a death_n even_o the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n also_o for_o what_o be_v the_o separation_n of_o the_o deity_n from_o his_o soul_n else_o but_o the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n howbeit_o note_n i_o pray_v that_o neither_o the_o father_n nor_o i_o do_v mean_v any_o separate_n 1_o of_o the_o union_n of_o humâ—â—_n of_o the_o dâ—â—_n &_o humâ—â—_n both_o nature_n in_o christ_n nor_o the_o separate_n 2_o of_o any_o holiness_n or_o habitual_a grace_n of_o god_n from_o his_o soul_n 3_o nor_o the_o separate_n of_o god_n love_n from_o he_o 10â—_o see_v befoâ—â—_n pag._n 10â—_o but_o the_o separation_n of_o all_o comfortable_a feel_n &_o assistance_n of_o the_o godhead_n in_o that_o he_o feel_v not_o any_o support_v of_o his_o soul_n and_o body_n now_o pierce_v through_o with_o the_o pain_n which_o he_o feel_v inflict_v by_o god_n this_o separation_n be_v mean_v and_o it_o rare_o it_o though_o hap_v thâ—_n there_o be_v dâ—_n this_o phâ—â—_n rare_o may_v be_v call_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n for_o as_o it_o be_v â—â—_o be_v psal_n â—â—_o life_n to_o the_o soul_n to_o feel_v and_o to_o enjoy_v the_o glory_n of_o god_n so_o it_o be_v death_n to_o feel_v the_o want_n and_o absence_n thereof_o utter_o and_o the_o rather_o be_v also_o then_o overwhelm_v with_o incomparable_a pain_n that_o heavenly_a life_n christ_n taste_v a_o little_a while_n in_o his_o transfiguration_n this_o hellish_a death_n he_o feel_v beside_o his_o bodily_a death_n upon_o the_o cross_n and_o thus_o tertull._n mean_v here_o that_o not_o christ_n bodily_a death_n only_o make_v he_o now_o thus_o to_o cry_v out_o but_o that_o death_n also_o which_o be_v the_o separation_n of_o his_o godhead_n from_o both_o his_o body_n &_o soul_n which_o be_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o so_o he_o say_v true_a the_o dereliction_n of_o the_o father_n be_v death_n to_o the_o son_n your_o â—â—â—_o your_o pag._n â—â—â—_o 4._o exposition_n for_o any_o thing_n i_o see_v may_v be_v grant_v for_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o effect_n that_o we_o hold_v your_o place_n of_o cyrill_n seem_v also_o to_o concur_v that_o christ_n word_n of_o complaint_n be_v the_o remove_n of_o the_o dereliction_n which_o have_v fall_v on_o us._n be_v it_o remove_v from_o we_o then_o sure_o it_o be_v lay_v upon_o some_o body_n else_o now_o that_o must_v needs_o be_v upon_o
turn_v they_o to_o joy_n &_o gladness_n though_o not_o proper_o to_o be_v glad_a of_o they_o nay_o we_o ought_v most_o instant_o to_o pray_v against_o they_o no_o affliction_n at_o all_o be_v good_a in_o it_o own_o nature_n and_o the_o great_a of_o all_o be_v good_a to_o god_n child_n by_o his_o grace_n so_o that_o touch_v this_o use_n of_o they_o therein_o we_o be_v to_o rejoice_v even_o when_o we_o be_v most_o bruise_v and_o pierce_v in_o our_o soul_n with_o the_o terror_n of_o god_n last_o 134._o 〈◊〉_d 134._o l_o you_o frame_v a_o objection_n against_o yourself_o which_o you_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v answer_v christ_n soul_n may_v feel_v the_o torment_n of_o hell_n for_o the_o time_n without_o any_o distrust_n or_o doubt_v of_o his_o salvation_n or_o our_o redemption_n you_o pretend_v thï_n answer_v the_o essential_a torment_n of_o hell_n be_v the_o absolute_a loss_n of_o god_n kingdom_n everlasting_o and_o that_o m_o eternal_a continuance_n be_v of_o the_o nature_n and_o substance_n of_o hell_n but_o we_o show_v you_o 53_o â—_o 53_o although_o the_o damn_a be_v in_o hell_n torment_v everlasting_o and_o of_o necessity_n so_o must_v be_v yet_o eternal_a continuance_n in_o they_o and_o to_o feel_v they_o but_o for_o a_o time_n be_v indeed_o but_o circumstance_n not_o of_o the_o essence_n or_o nature_n of_o hell_n torment_n god_n proper_a and_o extreme_a wrath_n only_o and_o his_o sharp_a vengeance_n for_o sin_n be_v the_o essence_n or_o nature_n of_o hell_n pain_n which_o against_o the_o damn_a indeed_o be_v eternal_a and_o unsatisfyable_a but_o light_v on_o christ_n it_o be_v not_o eternal_a because_o it_o be_v satisfyable_a wherefore_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o you_o have_v answer_v in_o effect_n nothing_o to_o your_o own_o objection_n thus_o far_o we_o have_v go_v show_v that_o we_o 2_o we_o pag._n 2_o neither_o extend_v the_o cause_n of_o christ_n agony_n to_o far_o in_o affirm_v it_o to_o have_v come_v of_o most_o bitter_a &_o extreme_a pain_n which_o he_o suffer_v proper_o for_o our_o sin_n neither_o that_o we_o continue_v it_o to_o long_o in_o affirm_v that_o he_o feel_v the_o same_o most_o extreme_o on_o the_o cross_n contrariwise_o that_o you_o curtail_v it_o to_o short_a when_o you_o say_v it_o be_v no_o more_o but_o 290._o but_o pag._n 1_o 290._o devotion_n to_o god_n and_o compassion_n to_o man_n also_o that_o christ_n agony_n touch_v he_o 11â—_n he_o pa._n 11â—_n not_o at_o all_o on_o the_o cross_n so_o that_o 90.91.116_o that_o before_o 90.91.116_o our_o main_a argument_n which_o you_o will_v have_v frustrate_v stand_v firm_a and_o good_a still_o that_o see_v his_o agony_n pain_n and_o fear_n be_v such_o &_o so_o great_a as_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o effect_n &_o sign_n show_v that_o they_o be_v both_o before_o his_o death_n and_o at_o his_o death_n therefore_o they_o be_v more_o than_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n and_o more_o than_o mere_a bodily_a death_n much_o less_o be_v his_o holy_a and_o religious_a affection_n the_o proper_a and_o special_a cause_n thereof_o but_o of_o necessity_n they_o be_v the_o pain_n proceed_v from_o the_o infinite_a and_o sharp_a justice_n of_o god_n which_o christ_n true_o suffer_v in_o his_o spirit_n and_o soul_n and_o body_n after_o this_o soul_n this_o pag_n 3â—_n touchiâ—â—_n death_n oâ—â—â—_n soul_n you_o set_v vehement_o against_o my_o last_o argument_n that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o some_o sort_n the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n first_o if_o we_o shall_v speak_v strict_o after_o the_o manner_n of_o death_n in_o the_o body_n than_o no_o man_n be_v so_o mad_a or_o foolish_a as_o to_o say_v that_o any_o man_n soul_n can_v die_v at_o all_o that_o be_v want_v life_n and_o sense_n as_o a_o dead_a body_n do_v thus_o the_o very_a damn_a soul_n in_o hell_n suffer_v not_o death_n but_o such_o a_o death_n as_o immortal_a soul_n be_v subject_a subject_n unto_o be_v god_n separation_n from_o they_o and_o this_o be_v 2._o fold_n the_o 1._o death_n and_o the_o 2._o death_n as_o the_o scripture_n speak_v the_o 1._o be_v the_o separation_n of_o they_o from_o god_n grace_n which_o be_v in_o this_o life_n by_o sin_n reign_v in_o they_o the_o 2._o death_n be_v god_n leave_v they_o in_o the_o feel_n of_o the_o most_o sharp_a and_o most_o vehement_a pain_n inflict_v by_o god_n justice_n for_o sin_n this_o last_o kind_n of_o death_n be_v so_o call_v and_o name_v in_o many_o place_n of_o 17._o of_o ezek._n gen._n 2d_o rom._n 6â—_n 2._o cor._n &_o 3.7.5.20_o aâ—_n 1._o joh._n 17._o scripture_n it_o have_v also_o a_o double_a consideration_n first_o ordinary_o and_o common_o it_o belong_v only_o to_o the_o damn_a for_o their_o own_o inherent_a sin_n where_o withal_o be_v the_o ordinary_a accident_n and_o concomitant_n together_o desperation_n induration_n blaspheme_v utter_a darkness_n etc._n etc._n with_o perpetuity_n of_o punishment_n and_o that_o local_o in_o hell_n in_o this_o sense_n the_o father_n general_o do_v take_v it_o where_o they_o deny_v that_o christ_n suffer_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o so_o likewise_o do_v we_o second_o the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n or_o the_o 2._o death_n may_v be_v extraordinary_o and_o singular_o consider_v namely_o to_o imply_v no_o more_o but_o simple_o the_o very_a nature_n and_o essense_n of_o it_o taste_v 〈◊〉_d death_n the_o soul_n â—â—rist_n taste_v that_o be_v the_o feel_n of_o most_o deadly_a infinite_a pain_n inflict_v by_o god_n himself_o in_o his_o proper_a justice_n for_o sin_n all_o sense_n also_o of_o his_o comfortable_a presence_n be_v take_v away_o this_o be_v a_o death_n to_o the_o soul_n 3._o â—â—g_v 113._o â—ag_n 135._o 6._o â—ag_n 112._o 3._o as_o *_o before_n we_o have_v show_v according_a to_o this_o sense_n the_o scripture_n &_o †_o father_n before_o note_v may_v right_o be_v understand_v not_o to_o deny_v it_o in_o christ_n so_o that_o this_o kind_n of_o death_n in_o the_o soul_n but_o none_o other_o we_o may_v safe_o say_v christ_n do_v suffer_v for_o our_o sin_n impute_v to_o he_o moreover_o let_v it_o be_v observe_v that_o if_o we_o have_v no_o proof_n at_o all_o in_o scripture_n for_o this_o point_n yet_o our_o question_n be_v full_o prove_v &_o confirm_v notwithstanding_o by_o those_o other_o sufficient_a &_o pregnant_a proof_n allege_v &_o justify_v before_o for_o it_o be_v be_v to_o note_v that_o no_o man_n set_v the_o question_n in_o these_o term_n that_o christ_n die_v in_o his_o soul_n neither_o do_v we_o at_o all_o use_v they_o very_o much_o in_o speak_v of_o this_o matter_n we_o do_v only_o when_o some_o special_a occasion_n draw_v it_o from_o we_o neither_o than_o do_v we_o utter_v it_o in_o those_o term_n but_o with_o use_v some_o further_a declaration_n of_o our_o mind_n the_o reason_n of_o this_o warynes_n be_v because_o we_o be_v not_o ignorant_a how_o ambiguous_a the_o phrase_n be_v and_o how_o apt_a to_o be_v mistake_v special_o where_o man_n listen_v to_o cavil_n also_o people_n untaught_a and_o unsettle_a in_o construe_v the_o scripture_n sense_n do_v quick_o take_v offence_n at_o thing_n which_o they_o ought_v better_v to_o digest_v so_o that_o you_o do_v very_o injurious_o to_o grate_v still_o one_o this_o phrase_n of_o speech_n and_o to_o strain_v it_o to_o the_o worst_a as_o you_o do_v as_o if_o by_o no_o mean_n it_o can_v bear_v any_o good_a sense_n and_o as_o if_o we_o build_v our_o main_a assertion_n only_o hereupon_o which_o in_o truth_n be_v nothing_o so_o the_o same_o also_o do_v we_o affirm_v touch_v our_o use_n in_o this_o matter_n the_o phrase_n of_o christ_n suffer_a hell_n pain_n both_o these_o phrase_n be_v but_o seldom_o and_o respective_o use_v by_o us._n howbeit_o we_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o both_o these_o phrase_n may_v be_v well_o and_o right_o apply_v unto_o christ_n on_o occasion_n 113._o â—â—g_v 16._o 52._o â—â—_o &_o 113._o as_o *_o before_o be_v observe_v &_o may_v both_o serve_v true_o and_o most_o emphatical_o to_o express_v the_o infinitnes_n of_o the_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n of_o his_o suffering_n for_o us._n yea_o this_o very_a phrase_n of_o death_n extend_v in_o christ_n further_o then_o to_o his_o mere_a bodily_a die_a have_v i_o doubt_v not_o express_v ground_n in_o the_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o may_v the_o better_o be_v use_v sober_o &_o admit_v charitable_o you_o will_v ask_v where_o be_v there_o any_o scripture_n proof_n proof_n that_o christ_n suffer_v any_o other_o death_n then_o that_o mere_o of_o his_o body_n i_o answer_v first_o consider_v well_o that_o to_o the_o c_o hebr._n 5.7_o hebr_n 5.7_o he_o offer_v up_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n with_o strong_a cry_v &_o tear_n to_o he_o that_o be_v able_a to_o save_v he_o from_o death_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o this_o death_n here_o shall_v be_v
deo_fw-la the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v god_n forsake_v of_o it_o 134._o â—â—fore_o pag._n â—_o 113._o â—_o 108._o 113_o â—_o 134._o but_o the_o scripture_n say_v god_n do_v leave_v he_o or_o forsake_v he_o for_o a_o season_n yea_o the_o father_n also_o c_o agree_v full_o thereunto_o the_o manner_n how_o do_v i_o have_v show_v before_o therefore_o by_o augustine_n definition_n large_o and_o right_o take_v christ_n may_v be_v say_v in_o some_o sense_n to_o have_v dye_v in_o soul_n howbeit_o though_o the_o father_n do_v grant_v the_o thing_n in_o effect_n as_o i_o have_v show_v yet_o i_o acknowledge_v they_o do_v deny_v this_o phrase_n general_o and_o so_o do_v austin_n in_o this_o place_n but_o thereabouts_o we_o never_o make_v question_n this_o be_v no_o part_n of_o our_o matter_n it_o may_v be_v even_o for_o the_o same_o cause_n they_o shun_v it_o for_o which_o we_o also_o do_v use_v it_o very_o rare_o and_o wary_o as_o before_o i_o observe_v 136._o pag_n 136._o and_o let_v this_o be_v the_o answer_n touch_v all_o your_o father_n and_o counsel_n which_o you_o bring_v abundant_o here_o and_o there_o about_o this_o point_n of_o the_o soul_n death_n though_o peradventure_o some_o of_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o insinuat_fw-la even_o this_o very_a phrase_n touch_v christ_n sometime_o as_o in_o some_o i_o touch_v before_o where_o you_o say_v 317._o â—â—g_v 317._o †_o ask_v the_o simple_a child_n that_o be_v catechize_v in_o my_o charge_n if_o i_o have_v any_o what_o death_n christ_n die_v for_o we_o and_o he_o will_v answer_v i_o out_o of_o his_o creed_n christ_n be_v crucify_a dead_a &_o bury_v it_o be_v true_a but_o our_o authorize_v catechism_n publish_v by_o m._n nowell_n and_o the_o homily_n i_o show_v the_o meaning_n hereof_o to_o be_v 117.â—_n 〈◊〉_d before_o 〈◊〉_d 67_o 117.â—_n that_o christ_n suffer_v far_o more_o sharp_o they_o mere_a bodily_a death_n even_o the_o infinite_a pain_n of_o god_n wrath_n in_o his_o soul_n which_o i_o point_v you_o unto_o k_n before_o but_o you_o fair_o leap_v it_o over_o â—_o â—â—eat_a 1._o pa._n â—_o as_o also_o the_o archb._n special_a allowance_n with_o other_o of_o m._n now._n catechism_n as_o be_v full_o ground_v on_o the_o word_n of_o god_n &_o contain_v the_o very_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n now_o to_o this_o effect_n the_o youth_n in_o my_o charge_n be_v ask_v will_v have_v answer_v sure_o for_o indeed_o such_o a_o charge_n in_o london_n i_o have_v i_o thank_v god_n wherein_o i_o hope_v i_o be_v faithful_a according_a to_o my_o power_n &_o may_v have_v continue_v have_v not_o your_o ill_a season_v teach_v so_o contrary_a to_o the_o establish_a doctrine_n in_o england_n burst_v forth_o a_o you_o say_v 〈◊〉_d â—ag_n 325._o â—â—a_fw-la 53.12_o â—r_o he_o powâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d i_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v lay_v that_o down_o for_o a_o show_n which_o be_v write_v in_o esay_n b_o he_o c_o lay_v down_o his_o soul_n unto_o death_n very_o if_o i_o have_v it_o will_v have_v make_v some_o show_n consider_v that_o â—6_n that_o pa._n â—6_n you_o earnest_o affirm_v that_o this_o word_n signify_v soul_n or_o spirit_n in_o a_o proper_a sense_n also_o how_o resolute_a you_o be_v forbid_v to_o 1â—_n to_o pag._n 1â—_n divert_v from_o the_o native_a &_o proper_a signification_n of_o word_n but_o when_o the_o letter_n impugn_v the_o ground_n of_o christian_a faith_n and_o charity_n this_o consider_v sure_o that_o in_o esay_n make_v some_o show_n indeed_o that_o christ_n submit_v and_o humble_v and_o afflict_a even_o his_o soul_n to_o death_n the_o rather_o if_o we_o note_v that_o which_o follow_v he_o be_v count_v with_o the_o sinner_n and_o bear_v the_o sin_n of_o many_o that_o be_v he_o be_v punish_v by_o god_n as_o the_o sinner_n be_v 76._o be_v see_v besâ—â—_n pag._n 76._o punish_v and_o be_v not_o by_o the_o jew_n only_o count_v among_o thief_n but_o chief_o consider_v withal_o that_o also_o before_o â—_o before_o isa_n 53._o â—_o he_o make_v his_o soul_n a_o sin_n offer_v here_o you_o must_v remember_v â—_o remember_v your_o pa._n â—_o we_o shall_v leave_v nothing_o sound_a &_o sure_a in_o god_n word_n if_o we_o may_v avoid_v all_o thing_n by_o figure_n that_o please_v not_o our_o humour_n therefore_o you_o must_v needs_o grant_v that_o god_n word_n here_o make_v christ_n soul_n to_o be_v †_o sacrifice_a for_o our_o sin_n and_o we_o desire_v no_o other_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n we_o deny_v not_o but_o this_o phrase_n animan_n pâ—nere_fw-la be_v to_o lay_v down_o the_o life_n and_o in_o divers_a place_n signify_v no_o more_o then_o simple_o to_o die_v both_o concern_v christ_n and_o other_o man_n as_o you_o observe_v pag._n 70._o yet_o this_o be_v no_o necessary_a reason_n that_o here_o in_o i_o say_v the_o soul_n shall_v be_v take_v figurative_o for_o the_o life_n only_o the_o rather_o see_v here_o the_o text_n precise_o set_v down_o the_o great_a &_o perfect_a work_n of_o our_o redemption_n and_o to_o take_v it_o as_o we_o do_v literal_o impugn_v no_o ground_n at_o all_o of_o faith_n or_o charity_n the_o like_a peradventure_o may_v be_v affirm_v also_o of_o that_o in_o matthew_n 2â—â—_n matthew_n mar_n 2â—â—_n the_o son_n of_o man_n come_v not_o to_o be_v serve_v but_o to_o serve_v and_o to_o give_v his_o soul_n a_o ransom_n for_o many_o although_o the_o translatour_n common_o turn_v it_o his_o life_n but_o i_o will_v not_o strive_v about_o these_o phrase_n aust_n have_v not_o a_o word_n against_o we_o in_o that_o great_a place_n which_o 32â—_n which_o pag._n 32â—_n you_o cite_v his_o whole_a argument_n there_o be_v to_o another_o purpose_n the_o jew_n slay_v only_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v true_a that_o they_o slay_v christ_n who_o doubt_v this_o also_o where_o you_o think_v those_o word_n to_o be_v so_o 327â—_n so_o pag._n 327â—_n plain_a and_o express_v as_o may_v be_v speak_v so_o effectual_a as_o paul_n heart_n can_v invent_v or_o his_o tongue_n utter_v that_o christ_n reconcile_v we_o to_o god_n in_o the_o body_n of_o his_o flesh_n through_o death_n we_o have_v answer_v you_o â—_o you_o pag._n 45._o â—_o before_o as_o for_o all_o your_o other_o discourse_n here_o against_o i_o it_o be_v as_o every_o where_o almost_o nothing_o but_o revile_n and_o reproach_n and_o bitter_a skoffe_n yet_o you_o say_v â—_o say_v pag_n 108._o â—_o you_o have_v not_o learned_a nor_o use_v to_o give_v revile_v speech_n have_v you_o not_o learn_v it_o be_v it_o then_o natural_a unto_o you_o nay_o you_o mean_v 264â—_n mean_v pag._n 264â—_n these_o be_v fatherly_a warning_n and_o admonition_n if_o your_o fatherly_a admonition_n be_v such_o what_o be_v your_o lordly_a rebuke_n if_o these_o be_v your_o bishoply_n blessing_n what_o be_v your_o curse_n but_o i_o be_o to_o blame_v herein_o stand_v not_o the_o trial_n of_o our_o quaestion_n as_o for_o all_o thâ—se_a hogepot_n as_o n_o 3â—8_n 〈◊〉_d 3â—8_n you_o call_v they_o which_o you_o make_v of_o my_o word_n they_o be_v nothing_o but_o your_o own_o either_o wilful_a writhing_n or_o uncharitable_a surmise_n as_o by_o every_o particular_a in_o than_o place_n may_v be_v see_v final_o that_o be_v not_o true_a where_o you_o say_v 330._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 330._o flesh_n do_v often_o signify_v the_o soul_n in_o us._n it_o signify_v often_o the_o whole_a manhood_n together_o in_o we_o and_o so_o it_o may_v and_o do_v in_o christ_n aswell_o also_o it_o signify_v in_o we_o many_o time_n our_o whole_a and_o entire_a corrupt_a nature_n both_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n so_o it_o never_o signify_v in_o christ_n and_o here_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o change_v a_o word_n or_o two_o in_o my_o former_a treatise_n 7.1_o note_n â—reat_a 1._o pa._n â—6_n lin_v 2._o use_v lin_v 7._o â—_o cor._n 7.1_o for_o p_o always_o to_o set_v usual_o and_o for_o q_o a_o man_n to_o set_v christ._n because_o since_o i_o find_v that_o flesh_n and_o spirit_n together_o apply_v unto_o man_n do_v r_o once_o signify_v mere_o the_o body_n and_o soul_n which_o than_o i_o think_v every_o where_o do_v signify_v in_o we_o our_o corrupt_a and_o regenerate_a man_n which_o oversight_n the_o bishop_n spy_v not_o but_o in_o this_o place_n confirm_v indeed_o final_o to_o make_v a_o end_n with_o your_o father_n and_o counsel_n it_o be_v strange_a that_o you_o thus_o vain_o boast_v of_o they_o 135.327_o 〈◊〉_d 135.327_o say_v they_o be_v a_o all_o whole_o for_o you_o for_o this_o 1400._o year_n space_n i_o have_v show_v before_o that_o your_o large_a claim_n prove_v a_o very_a short_a gain_n for_o in_o substance_n and_o full_a effect_n they_o be_v evident_o and_o general_o against_o you_o and_o for_o us._n as_o for_o their_o deny_v that_o christ_n die_v in_o his_o soul_n i_o
b_o have_v answer_v to_o that_o before_o 142._o â—ag_n 135._o â—6_n 142._o further_n where_o you_o bring_v they_o in_o many_o place_n say_v by_o his_o blood_n only_o he_o redeem_v we_o and_o he_o suffer_v only_o in_o his_o body_n handle_v father_n 〈◊〉_d handle_v they_o be_v abuse_v by_o you_o wonderful_o not_o in_o their_o word_n but_o in_o their_o meaning_n for_o they_o strive_v against_o arian_n and_o such_o other_o haeretike_n who_o will_v have_v christ_n deity_n to_o take_v part_n in_o his_o suffering_n for_o our_o redemption_n etc._n â—ee_z before_o 〈◊〉_d 111.113_o â—4_n etc._n etc._n &_o so_o consequent_o will_v prove_v it_o inferior_a to_o the_o father_n the_o godly_a ancient_a writer_n do_v hereupon_o say_v he_o suffer_v &_o satisfy_v for_o we_o only_o in_o his_o body_n in_o his_o flesh_n &c_n &c_n not_o exclude_v the_o proper_a &_o immediate_a suffering_n of_o his_o spirit_n nor_o any_o passable_a part_n of_o his_o manhood_n but_o only_o his_o godhead_n against_o those_o haeretike_n show_v thus_o also_o that_o no_o other_o creature_n beside_o he_o or_o with_o he_o satisfy_v any_o way_n for_o we_o altogether_o after_o the_o apostle_n like_o phrase_n in_o many_o place_n let_v the_o author_n themselves_o be_v view_v if_o you_o think_v i_o affirm_v of_o they_o false_o tertullian_n and_o cyrill_n will_v give_v a_o taste_n hereof_o for_o all_o the_o rest_n tertullians_n â—_o tertullians_n pag._n 3_o â—_o word_n â—_o word_n contr._n â—_o id_fw-la est_fw-la carnem_fw-la thas_o be_v to_o say_v christ_n flesh_n be_v express_o oppose_v to_o his_o deity_n not_o to_o his_o soul_n so_o that_o evident_o he_o mean_v thereby_o his_o whole_a and_o entire_a passable_a manhood_n if_o he_o have_v mean_v to_o exclude_v any_o part_n or_o faculty_n of_o his_o soul_n from_o suffering_n as_o he_o do_v his_o godhead_n he_o have_v confirm_v that_o haeresy_n against_o which_o he_o strive_v as_o f_z before_o i_o note_v 1â—_n note_v pag._n 1â—_n also_o it_o seem_v he_o yield_v the_o name_n of_o death_n to_o this_o suffering_n of_o christ_n whole_a manhood_n in_o say_v quod_fw-la unctum_fw-la est_fw-la mortuum_fw-la ostendit_fw-la that_o die_v which_o receive_v the_o anoint_v for_o i_o hope_v his_o spirit_n be_v anoint_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n aswell_o as_o his_o flesh_n and_o he_o say_v thus_o as_o indefinite_o so_o also_o by_o way_n of_o opposition_n to_o his_o deity_n as_o i_o say_v therefore_o he_o mean_v the_o whole_a manhood_n die_v howbeit_o in_o what_o sort_n this_o may_v be_v i_o show_v 136â—_n show_v pag._n 113â—_n 135._o 136â—_n before_o my_o false_a translate_n of_o he_o which_o you_o note_v be_v not_o worth_a the_o note_n but_o you_o do_v worse_o in_o false_a place_v those_o his_o last_o rehearse_v word_n for_o advantage_n in_o tertull._n they_o be_v use_v more_o general_o in_o their_o own_o place_n come_v long_o before_o those_o word_n after_o which_o you_o set_v they_o as_o for_o that_o denique_fw-la posuit_fw-la spiritum_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o show_v that_o christ_n bodily_a death_n also_o but_o not_o only_o come_v by_o reason_n of_o god_n forsake_v and_o separate_n from_o he_o for_o before_o we_o see_v how_o tertull._n express_o attribute_v god_n derelection_n both_o to_o his_o poris_fw-la his_o haec_fw-la uâ—â—â—_n animae_fw-la &_o poris_fw-la soul_n &_o body_n on_o the_o cross_n though_o you_o grudge_n thereat_o thus_o i_o say_v he_o except_v only_o his_o godhead_n from_o dereliction_n and_o suffer_v etc._n etc._n cyrill_n also_o even_o in_o that_o book_n which_o you_o cite_v for_o you_o show_v that_o he_o exclude_v but_o christ_n deity_n though_o he_o mention_v only_o his_o suffering_n in_o flesh_n 1._o flesh_n ad_fw-la reg_n lib._n 1._o carne_n passum_fw-la dicit_fw-la docens_fw-la patiendi_fw-la ineffabilem_fw-la naturam_fw-la a_o passionibus_fw-la alienam_fw-la deus_fw-la igitur_fw-la christus_fw-la divinè_n quidem_fw-la impassibilis_fw-la passibilis_fw-la secundum_fw-la carnem_fw-la he_o exclude_v only_o the_o deity_n from_o suffering_n when_o he_o say_v he_o suffer_v in_o his_o flesh_n in_o a_o word_n so_o do_v all_o the_o rest_n as_o 1â—_n as_o pag._n 1â—_n before_o be_v partly_o note_v against_o nestorius_n 33â—_n nestorius_n pag._n 33â—_n they_o affirm_v the_o union_n of_o christ_n nature_n with_o preserve_v the_o property_n of_o each_o they_o therefore_o hold_v not_o his_o only_a bodily_a suffering_n be_v this_o then_o your_o great_a boast_n of_o all_o the_o father_n and_o counsel_n nay_o be_v they_o well_o use_v at_o your_o hand_n to_o be_v thus_o draw_v clean_o from_o their_o purpose_n to_o a_o opinion_n which_o they_o never_o think_v of_o be_v this_o good_a deal_n towards_o god_n people_n to_o tell_v they_o that_o the_o father_n general_o teach_v the_o only_a bodily_a suffering_n of_o christ_n and_o deny_v our_o assertion_n of_o his_o soul_n peculiar_a suffering_n 47.48.66.71.88.112_o â—â—efore_o 47.48.66.71.88.112_o which_o *_o they_o justify_v &_o confirm_v indeed_o yea_o this_o 〈◊〉_d the_o profit_n that_o come_v by_o ordinary_a slant_v with_o father_n which_o use_v many_o do_v frequent_a in_o these_o day_n think_v they_o if_o the_o scripture_n alone_o suffice_v not_o for_o all_o thing_n in_o religion_n that_o the_o father_n will_v suffice_v or_o if_o the_o father_n make_v a_o sense_n upon_o some_o text_n that_o therefore_o this_o must_v be_v the_o right_a meaning_n always_o or_o if_o the_o scripture_n may_v be_v wrest_v by_o subtle_a head_n that_o yet_o the_o father_n can_v or_o that_o god_n people_n may_v soon_o see_v and_o find_v when_o the_o father_n be_v abuse_v then_o when_o the_o scripture_n be_v it_o be_v great_a pity_n that_o man_n be_v yea_o will_v be_v so_o deceive_v with_o vain_a show_n let_v we_o in_o god_n name_n content_v ourselves_o in_o handle_v matter_n of_o religion_n only_o with_o god_n all_o sufficient_a word_n unless_o where_o the_o importunity_n of_o a_o adversary_n force_v us._n otherwise_o let_v we_o spare_v the_o authority_n of_o man_n in_o god_n matter_n to_o they_o that_o make_v a_o idol_n of_o it_o final_o if_o in_o this_o case_n we_o be_v to_o look_v after_o any_o man_n sure_o we_o have_v more_o cause_n to_o regard_v our_o late_a faithful_a teacher_n rather_o than_o those_o of_o old_a who_o be_v equal_a with_o the_o best_a of_o they_o in_o any_o of_o the_o excellent_a grace_n of_o god_n spirit_n which_o he_o use_v to_o bestow_v on_o his_o servant_n for_o the_o edify_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o herein_o these_o have_v advantage_n of_o the_o former_a that_o they_o be_v direct_o provoke_v &_o occasion_v to_o study_n and_o sift_v out_o this_o question_n against_o the_o papist_n which_o the_o ancient_n be_v not_o occasion_v to_o do_v after_o 341._o â—ag_n 341._o a_o you_o set_v yourself_o to_o prove_v that_o in_o hell_n there_o be_v material_a fire_n but_o it_o seem_v you_o be_v now_o almost_o afraid_a so_o to_o call_v it_o yet_o b_o you_o call_v it_o true_a fire_n 343._o â—ag_n 343._o which_o also_o we_o utter_o deny_v all_o your_o proof_n such_o as_o they_o be_v run_v to_o prove_v corporal_a and_o material_a fire_n yet_o eternal_a except_o your_o scripture_n which_o utter_o prove_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o they_o show_v no_o more_o any_o corporal_a or_o material_a or_o true_a fire_n to_o be_v now_o in_o hell_n than_o a_o corporal_a worm_n material_a brimston_n and_o much_o wood_n &_o true_a chain_n which_o you_o say_v be_v a_o sleeveles_a objection_n but_o neither_o yourself_o nor_o austin_n who_o you_o cite_v against_o it_o do_v any_o where_n answer_v it_o yea_o austin_n think_v that_o incorporal_a spirit_n shall_v be_v fasten_v to_o corporal_a fire_n but_o he_o say_v not_o that_o now_o they_o be_v which_o only_o be_v our_o question_n or_o else_o nothing_o for_o my_o part_n i_o see_v no_o reason_n to_o believe_v that_o now_o there_o be_v corporal_a fire_n in_o hell_n whatsoever_o there_o shall_v be_v hereafter_o when_o body_n also_o shall_v be_v there_o unite_v and_o torment_v with_o the_o soul_n again_o austin_n here_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v such_o fire_n he_o only_o show_v the_o manner_n how_o it_o may_v be_v so_o hereafter_o if_o god_n will_n now_o if_o all_o your_o reason_n be_v the_o power_n of_o god_n only_o then_o aswell_o you_o may_v prove_v that_o the_o sky_n be_v fall_v for_o as_o touch_v god_n will_v herein_o you_o name_v it_o indeed_o but_o you_o show_v it_o not_o where_o nor_o seem_v to_o show_v it_o all_o the_o rest_n say_v nothing_o further_o nor_o indeed_o so_o far_o as_o austin_n yet_o you_o think_v it_o may_v be_v call_v â—â—_o call_v pag._n â—â—_o a_o true_a create_a fire_n that_o no_o christian_a ever_o doubt_v of_o if_o you_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v a_o true_a creature_n if_o you_o mean_v simple_o that_o it_o be_v true_a fire_n that_o still_o we_o deny_v and_o i_o think_v you_o shall_v not_o care_v for_o corporal_a fire_n