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A72420 The soule is immortall, or, Certaine discourses defending the immortalitie of the soule against the limmes of Sathan to wit, Saducees, Anabaptists, atheists and such like of the hellish crue of aduersaries / written by Iohn Iackson. Jackson, John, fl. 1611.; Houppelande, Guillaume, d. 1492. De immortalitate animae.; Xenocrates, of Chalcedon, ca. 396-ca. 314 B.C. De morte.; Athenagoras, 2nd cent. De resurrectione.; Palingenio Stellato, Marcello, ca. 1500-ca. 1543. 1611 (1611) STC 14297a.3; ESTC S116566 64,456 189

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that my life is but a winde and that mine eye shall not returne to see pleasure For so hee expoundeth himselfe when hee addeth vers 10. Hee shall returne no more to his house neither shall his place know him any more So likewise in the 17. chap. My breath is corrupt my dayes are corrupt the Graue is readie for mee They are wordes of one despayring of life saluation God being wroth and angrie 10. Job 34.14.15 14 If he set his heart vpon man and gather vnto himselfe his spirit and his breath 15. All flesh shall perish togeather and man shall returne vnto dust Answere Job doth not heere say that the Soule doth either sleepe or perish but that by the departure of the Soule from the Bodie the Bodie dieth and is dissolued yet not that the Body doth vtterly perish for so it should repugne other plaine places that warrant the Resurrection 11. Job 14.12 Man sleepeth and riseth not for hee shall not wake againe nor be raised from his sleepe till the Heauen be no more 12. Act. 7.60 And when he had thus spoken he fell asleepe 13. 1. Cor. 15.51 We shall not all sleepe but we shal be all changed 14. 1. Thes 4.13 I would not haue you ignoraunt concerning them which are asleepe In these places the dead are sayd to sleepe Ergo The Soule sleepeth Answere In these and such like places is vsed a figure of speach called Synecdoche translating that which is proper vnto the Bodie to the whole man For that this belongeth to the Body which is to be recalled from death to life as it were to awake from sleepe many places of Scripture declare As Iob. 7. Behold now I sleepe in the dust For not the Soule but the Body onely sleepeth in the dust or Graue 15. Mat. 24.46 Blessed is that Seruant whom his Maister when he commeth shall find so doing 16. Mat. 25.34 Come ye blessed of my Father inherite the Kingdome 17. Mark 13.13 13 And yee shal be hated of all men for my names sake But whosoeuer shall endure vnto the ende the same shall be saued 27 And he shall then send his Angles and gather to geather his elect from the foure Windes 18. Dan. 12.1.2 1 And at that time my people shal be deliuered euery one that shal be found written in the Booke 2 And many of them that sleepe in the dust of the earth shall awake some to euerlasting life c. These places doe plainely shew that Blessednesse and the Kingdome promised to the godly shall then first fall vnto them at the last day Ergo Soules go not presently to heauen after death of the Body Answere Those places doe not shew that But they shew that at the last day when the Bodies shal be raised vp againe the Soules that alreadie are in Heauen shall by being ioyned to the bodyes againe haue their felicitie and glory consummated and made absolute For so we pray Thy Kingdome come when yet now God also raigneth in vs. 19. 1. Cor. 15.19 If in this life onely we haue Hope we are of all men most miserable Of this place they reason thus Hee that is blessed and happy before the Resurrection is not without the Resurrection most miserable But wee without the Resurrection should be of all men most miserable Ergo wee are not before the Resurrection blessed and happie Answere To the Maior we answere That he is not miserable without the Resurrection who can not onely before it but without it also be blessed But we are in such wise blessed before it that notwithstanding without it following and ensuing we can not enioy that former blessednesse because that God with so inseparable a knot hath ioyned togeather the beginning proceeding and finishing or perfectiō of the Electes blessednesse that none can haue the beginning who must not come to the end and consummation thereof Wherefore we must rise againe or we must want also the Celestiall blessednesse before the Resurrection Rom. 8.11 If the spirit of him that raysed vp Iesus from the dead dwell in you hee that raysed vp Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortall Bodies 20. Heb. 11.39 These all through Fayth are dead and receiued not the Promise Therefore they receiued not their Countrie Answere Although when they died they had not found their Countrie yet would it not follow of these wordes that they are not at all or haue no sense after death for he that is not or hath no sense seeketh not his Countrie Secondly it is not there spoken of the life after death which is ledde in the Celestiall countrie spoken of in 2. Cor. 5. from vers 1. vnto 10. but of this life in which the faythfull walking their pilgrimage sought for the Celestiall countrie not finding their Countrie on Earth 21. If presently after death the godly were blessed then iniurie was done vnto them who were called againe into this mortall life Answere It was not iniurions to them seeing God is debtor to no man God did raise them vp for the manifesting of his glorie Now what can happen better or more acceptable vnto the Godly then to serue for the manifesting of his glory either by life or by death Therefore there was no iniurie done vnto them Phil. 1. As alwayes so now Christ shall be magnified in my Body whether it be by life or by death c. 22. The Soule hath neither sense nor action but by bodily instrumentes and therefore being naked of those instrumentes it is also destitute of sense motion and operation Answeré Although we graunt the Antecedent that the Soules action and sense is by the instrumentes of the Body while it is in the Body before this naturall or corporal death yet notwithstanding that it is not so with the Soule after death when it is freed from the Body both learned Philosophers doe confesse and the word of God testifieth 1. Cor. 13.9 Wee know in part and wee prophecie in part but when that which is perfect is come then that which is in part shal be abolished ¶ Thus I hope are sufficiently disprooned those wicked Aduersaries of this knowne and necessarie Trueth The Soule is Immortall And the Scriptures falsely by them alleadged rightly and fully interpreted according to their true sense By which reproofe of the Aduersarie and disproofe of their cause the trueth is more approoued and stronglier confirmed For contraries by their contraries are euer made more manifest God giue the Trueth a speedie victorie in the heartes of his people that Errours may be beaten downe Sathan confounded and all our Enimies vanquished that we may triumph with our Captaine that Lion of the Tribe of luda our Lord Jesus Christ Athenagoras an Athenian and a Christian Philosopher flourished in the time of Marcus Aurelius Antoninus and Commodus Emperours of Rome within two hundred yeares after Christ and in his Booke of the Resurrection he reasoueth thus REasons touching thinges belonging to Mankind are some drawne
THE SOVLE IS Immortall OR Certaine Discourses defending the immortalitie of the Soule against the limmes of Sathan to wit Saduces Anabaptistes Atheists and such like of the hellish crue of Aduersaries Written by IOHN IACKSON Imprinted at London by W. W. for Robert Boulton dwelling in Smithfield neere Long-lane 1611. TO THE CHRISTIAN READER Grace and Peace be multiplied THe Arch-enimie of mankinde Sathan that olde Aduersarie as he dared to giue the assault vpon the Author of Saluation himselfe so hath he not rested from the beginning to lay battrie to the fortresse of Fayth seeking by all meanes to beat it downe and vtterly to rase the very foundations of it And to this end hath he not left vnshaken any one article of our Christian beliefe both by old and new Heretikes the wicked instrumentes of his infernall warringes So maliciously is he set against vs that like a ramping and roring Lion he goeth about seeking whom be may deuower And where GOD hath his Church be euermore adioyneth his Chappell with his counterfaite false and faigned Religion odious to God and wonderfull to the world Amongest the rest he hath not onely of old but euen of late battered the soule yea euen the life of the soule of man yea euen now doth he most stoutly batter it by perswading some that it is corruptible and mortall and putting into their mouthes the most venomed swordes of poysoned sophisticall Argumentes to maintaine the same against the most certaine and necessarie trueth of the Soules immortalitie For not onely the Saduces did dispute against the immortalitie of the Soule yea and they in like manner who sayd in Saint Paules time that the Resurrection was past alreadie to him that beleeueth and made no other resurrection besides the resurrection of the regenerate But also the Anabaptistes of later yeares doe denie the Soule to be immortall And Paul the third of that name Pope of Rome when he was breathing out his Soule and readie to die sayd that now at length he should try and know three things First whether there were a GOD second whether the Soules were immortall third whether there were a Hell or no whereof all his life time he was in much doubt Yea verily euen at this very day there are now wicked Epicures and gracelesse Atheistes whom the Diuell to lull them faster a sleepe in their sinnes and enforce them to heape sinne vpon sinne hath so suggested them that they are fully perswaded that there is no rewarde for the Good nor punishment of the Wicked but that Man perisheth as Beast and the Soule to come to nothing according to that wicked verse of Horace Et redit in nihilum quod fuit ante nihil For they affirme that the Soule of man like as of brute Beastes is nothing else but Life or the vitall power arising of the temperature and perfection of the Body and therefore dyeth and is extinguished togeather with the Body And some againe say that the Soule sleepeth when the Body dyeth that is is without motion or sense vntill the raysing of the Body which indeed is nothing else but that the Soule is mortall that is a meere qualitie onely in the Body which when the body is dissolued becommeth nothing because if it were an incorporeall substaunce it could not be without sense and motion Wherefore hauing my selfe met with some of this badde sort and hearing of moe I thought good euery way to fight in the cause of Christ Iesus with the weapon put in mine hand by my grand Captaine and with might and maine to heaw at these two Monsters and vtter Enemies to the Soule Therefore seeing that the print of the Penne may come vnto the eyes of moe than the sound of the voyce into the cares I by Gods assistance haue set my talent on worke against them both proouing the contrarie First that the Soule is not as they say mortall but immortall Secondly that the Soule is not a forme perfection temperament force power or agitation arising out of the temperature of the Body but a substaunce incorporeall liuing vnderstanding dwelling in the Body and susteining and moouing it And this latter is prooued true by these Scriptures Psalm 48. His Soule shal be blessed in life Heb 12. God is called the Father of Spirites And it is sayd of the faythfull Yee are come to the Celestiall Ierusalem and to the companie of innumerable Angels and to the Spirites of iust and perfect men 1. Cor. 2.11 Noman knoweth the thinges of a man saue the spirite of man which is in man In these and like places of Scripture both the Soule of man is called a Spirit and the properties of a liuing and vnderstanding substaunce are attributed vnto it therefore it is a substaunce And therefore to no purpose doe the aduersaries of this Doctrine oppose those places wherein the soule is taken for the life and will of man as Mat. 6. The Soule is more worth then Meate Iob. 13.14 I put my Soule in my hand For by the fore alleadged places it is manifest that this is not generall but is vsed by figure of speach whereby we call the effect by the name of his cause Now for the former that the Soule is not mortall but immortall and also for a further declaration of this latter I haue translated foorth of latine for their sakes that vnderstande not latine a certaine Treatise of the Immortalitie of the Soule and thereunto haue adioyned other mens iudgments and reasons for the helpe of the matter Scriptures confirming the same and confuted the Aduersarie GVILERMVS HOVPPELANDVS Of the immortalitie of the Soule THat the auncient Philosophers flourished in Witte and profited in Studie it is no common opinion but vnto all men a sure and certaine perswasion For by Studie and Exercise they on euerie side made themselues away vnto those thinges that are by Nature almost incomprehensible And by their benefite there are many thinges publikely left vnto all posterities which we are glad of and doe marueile at their inuentions They measured the World subiected Heauen to their Rules searched out the sundry causes of Nature and in some sort with their eyes contemplated the Worke-man of all the World But of the state of mans Soule and the Immortalitie thereof sundrie sectes haue in their Writinges left sundrie opinions Some say that Soules are Mortall and die togeather with their bodyes Some doe say that they are Immortall and alwaies remaine in a fixed stabilitie Heraciuus affirmed mans Soule to be a Vapour Thales a Moysture Empedocles Blood for hee taught that the Soule is Blood infused in the Heart Diogenes and Anaximenes Ayre The Storkes whereof Zeno and Chrisippus are the chiefe do say it is a Fire Democritus affirmed the Soule to be made by a certaine chauncing course of certaine light and round matter Aristoxenus an Harmonie Aristophanes a due proportion of qualities The Saduces so called of Sadoc denying both Honours and Punishmentes and vniuersally both
Spirit and Angell doc impudently say that mens Soules are Mortall and die togeather with their Bodyes The Epicures also affirming the Soule to be Mortall doe place the chiefest Good in Pleasures For Epicurus who as it pleaseth the greatest men did moderately vse Hearbes and Apples such meane Meate was afterward by those that came after being a beastly and filthy companie reproched with infamie for his sottish vnbridled Schollers fell into voluptuousnesse and counted themselues to be most happie with the vse thereof All these and many other moe in the reckoning vp of whom it is not profitable for vs for to stay thought mans Soule to be Mortall Whom Plinie seemeth to fauour when he sayeth in his second Booke of his Naturall Historie that God cannot giue men Eternitie nor call againe the Dead And also many Romaines renowned both for fame and learning for Valerius in his seconde Booke of the Immortalitie of the Soule seemeth to mocke the Frenchmen when he saith That old custome of the Frenchmen commeth to my remembraunce who as it is written doe lend Money that it might be payde them againe in Hell because they were certainely perswaded that the Soules be immortall Fooles are they to thinke that they there weare long Garments as Pithago●as beleeued them to weare Cloakes Moreouer Caesar and Cato as Salust witnesseth plainely said that mens Soules were Mortall and many others also of whom it is not necessarie to speake particularly Against whom it is sayd in the second Chapter of the Booke of Wisedome The vngodly say as they falsely imagine with themselues our life is short and tedious and in the death of a man there is no recouerie neither was any knowne that returned from the Graue For wee are borne at all aduenture and we shall be hereafter as though we had neuer been for the Breath is a Smoake in our Nostrels and the Wordes as a Sparke raised out of our Heartes which being extinguished the Body is turned into Ashes and the Spirit vanisheth as the soft Ayre Our life shall passe away as the trace of a Cloude and come to naught as the Miste that is driuen away with the beames of the Sunne and cast downe with the heate thereof Our name also shal be forgotten in time and no man shall haue our workes in remembrance for our time is as a Shadow that passeth away and after our ende there is no returning For it is fast sealed so that no man commeth againe Come therefore and let vs enioy the pleasures that are present and let vs chearefully vse the creatures as in youth c. Then it followeth at the. 21. verse Such things doe they imagine and goe astray for their owne wickednesse hath blinded them And they doe not vnderstaud the mysterie of God neither hope for the reward of righteousnesse nor can discerne the honour of the Soules that are faultlesse And in the third Chapter The Soules of the righteous are in the hand of God no torment shall touch them In the sight of the vnwise they appeared to die and their ende was thought grieuous and their departing from vs. destruction but they are in peace And though they suffer paine before men yet is their hope full of immortalitie c. There are also others of euery sect and nation as well Poets as Philosophers in witte learning fame and glorie more excellent then the former who speaking more rightly of the state of the Soule haue taught that the Soules of men are not dissolued togeather with their bodyes but are immortall or rewarded with eternitie For Hermes talking in his Dialogues with Asclepius about the eternall Word confesseth that the Soules of men are immortall and that the Euill are punished and the Good eternally rewarded Goe to sayth he Wee must now reason of the Mortall and Immortall way or manner The feare of death vexe and trouble many being ignorant of the true way And a litle after When the Soule shall depart from the Body then shall the tryall of his merite passe into the power of the great Iudge and hee when he shall see it to be iust shall permit it to abide in places fit for it But if it be vnrighteous it shall be throwne downe into the great deepe and condemned to the stormes whyrlewinds of the Ayre and the Water and be snatched vp betwixt the Heauen and the Earth and be heere and there tossed haled and turmoyled in eternall paines But in this is eternitie hurtfull vnto the Soule that by the immortall sentence it is tyed to eternall punishment And thy Graunfather Esculapius O Asclepius saith hee the first finder out of Phisicke to whom is consecrated a Temple vpon a Mountaine of Lybea about the shore of Cocodrilli a man of a very godly life is gone backe againe into Heauen The Pharesies also and the Essies doe say that the Iudgement of God shall come and that the Soules of men be immortall Josephus in his second Booke of the Warres of the Jewes sayth this It is a confirmed opinion amongst vs that our Bodies are corruptible and that the matter of them is not perpetuall but our Soules alwayes remaine immortall And when they be losed from their carnall bondes as though they were deliuered or set free from a long seruitude so doe they foorthwith reioyce and are caryed vp on high The Pharesies also beleeued the same which two sectes were best allowed of among the Jewes as the same Iosephus affirmeth And of the Esseis being put to torments the same Josephus sayeth They smiling in the midst of punishings and laughing those to scorne that eschewed torments did constantly yeeld vp their Soules with a certaine hilaritie as though they should at length receiue thē againe And what is meant by that in the Sentences of the Greekes that assure them that remaine content with good things that they shall liue beyond the Occean where is promised vnto them a full fruition of the chiefest Ioyes For there verily say they is the Region which is aggrauated neither with Raine Cold Heate nor any Maladies but the Occean orient and gentle blowing Zephirus is there very pleasant But for euill soules they choose and appoint stormy and wintery places which are full of wailings schrikings and howlings of paines intollerable whose continuance is euerlasting and world with out end According to this same intelligence the Greekes haue faigned that for those whom they call Heros 1. noble and halfe Gods Semidij are sequestrated the Ilands of the blessed but for the Soules of the wicked Hell is destinated wherein also they faigne that there is tormented certaine Sysiphos Tantalusses Ixions and Licias For the Greeke say that Her●i noble and well deseruing Soules indued with immortalitie dwell vp very high in the Ayre whereof Jsiodore sayeth Heroas dicuntur a Junone traxisse nomen Grece enim luno a herba appellatur c. 1. Heroas are sayd to haue drawne their name from Juno for in the Greeke tongue
Goe to sayth the sicke man all sorrowfull I shall now prooue whether of you doth thinke more rightly But Theologie doth discreetly affirme both that the Soule is Immortall and also that it shall at length returne into the tabernacle of the Body doth name the very place also wherein the Soule shall remaine be kept vntill the last Iudgement That the Soule doth not die is thus prooued by the holy Scriptures 1 BEcause it is a Spirit which cannot die Gen. 2. Math. 10. Doe not feare those that can kill the Body but cannot kill the Soule Gen. 2. Hee breathed into him the breath of life 2 Because God is the God of the liuing God is the God of Abraham Therefore Abraham liueth although his body be dead Mat. 22. 3 From Examples Moses and Elias talked with Christ in Mount Thabor Luk. 9. although Moses was dead a thousand and fiue hundred yeares before Ergo they liue 4 From the testimonie of Christ Ion. 11. Hee that beleeueth in me he shall not die for euer Therefore the Soule is not extinguished but liueth alwayes 5 There is also a firme Argument from the Cause vnto the Effect or from the nature of Relatiues Christ is risen and liueth Christ is our Author and Head Therefore we also shall rise againe And the Soule at length coupled with the Body shall liue for euer For what is of force in Christ the same must needes also auaile in his members 1. Cor. 15. Now that the Body being renewed shall of vs be recciued againe in the resurrection of the dead the testimonie of Job in the 19 chap. teacheth plainely I know that my Redeemer liueth and that I shall rise againe out of the Earth in the last day and shall see God in my flesh The Place or Seate into the which the Soule doth flitte being loosed from the fetters of the Body and resteth in the same is called Paradise Luk. 23. The bosome of Abraham Luk. 16. The hand of God Sap. 3. Scheol 1. Hell Gen. 43. The Immortalitie of the Soule prooued by manifest places of the holy Scriptures 1. Numbers 23.10 I Pray God I may die the death of the Righteous and let my last end be like his 2. Psal 84.1 2 4 10. 1. O how amiable are thy Tabernacles o Lord of Hostes 2. My Soule longeth yea and fainteth for the Courtes of the Lord for my heart and my flesh reioyce in the liuing God 4. Blessed are they that dwell in thy House they will euer praise thee Selah 10. One day in thy Courtes is better then a thousand other where I had rather be a Dore-keeper in the house of my God then to dwell in the Tabernacles of Wickednesse 3. Ejay 51.6.11 6. Lift vp your eyes to the Heauens and looke vpon the Earth beneath for the Heauens shall vanish away like smoake and the Earth shall waxe old like a garment and they that dwel therein shall perish in like maner but my saluation shal be for euer and my righteousnesse shall not be abolished 11 The redeemed of the Lord shall returne and come with ioy vnto Zion and euerlasting ioy shal be vpon their head they shall obtaine ioy and gladnesse and sorrow and mourning shal be away 4. Esaj 32.18 My people shall dwell in peace and in sure dwellinges in safe resting places in assurance for euer 5. Esaj 49.10 They shall not be hungry neither shall they be thirstie neither shall the heate smite them nor the Sunne for he that hath compassion on them shall lead them euen to the springes of waters shall he driue them 6. Esaj 65.17.18 17 Loe I will create new Heauens and a new Earth and the former shall not be remembred nor come into minde 18 But be you glad and reioyce for euer in the thinges that I shall create 7. Dan. 12 1.2.3 And at that time shall Michael stand vp the great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people and there shall be a time of trouble such as neuer was since the time that there began to be a Nation vntill the same time And at that time thy people shall be deliuered euery one that shall be found written in the Booke 2 And many of them that sleepe in the dust of the Earth shall awake some to euerlasting life and some to shame and perpetuall contempt 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightnesse of the Firmament and they that turne many to righteousnesse shall shine as the Starres for euer euer 8. 2. Esaras 2.35.36.37 Be readie to the reward of the Kingdome for the euerlasting light shall shine vpon you for euermore 36 Flee the shadow of this world receiue the ioy of your glorie I testifie my Sauiour openly 37 Receiue the gift that is giuen you and be glad giuing thankes vnto him that hath called you to the Heauenly kingdome 9. Sap. 3. The Soules of the righteous are in the hand of God and the paine of death shall not touch them In the sight of the vnwise they appeare to die c. Yet is their hope full of Immortalitie c. 10. Sap. 5. The Faythfull are counted among the Children of God and their portion is among the Saintes The Righteous shall liue for euermore their reward also is with the Lord and their remembraunce with the highest Therefore shall they receiue a glorious Kingdome a beautifull Crowne of the Lords hand 11. Tob. 3. O Lord deale with me according to thy will and commaund my spirit to be receiued in peace 12. Ecclesiastes 7. The day of death is better then the day of birth For precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of this Saintes saith the Psalmist in the 116. Psalme 13. Mat. 13.43 Then shall the Iust men shine as the Sunne in the Kingdome of their father 14. Mat. 19.29 They shall inherite euerlasting life 15. Mat. 25.34 Come ye blessed Children of my Father inherite the Kingdome prepared for you from the beginning of the world 16. Mat. 22.29.30.31.32 29 Yee are deceiued not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God 30 For in the Resurrection they neither marrie Wiues nor Wiues are bestowed in marriage but are as the Angels of God in Heauen 31 And concerning the Resurrection of the dead haue yee not read what is spoken vnto you of God saying 32 I am the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Iacob God is not the God of the dead but of the liuing 17. The same is recorded in the 12. of Marke vers 24 25 26 27. By all which places it is a plaine consequent that the Soule is Immortall 18. Luk. 16.22 Lazarus is said to be caried into Abrahams Bosome Now what Abrahams Bosome is let venerable Beda witnesse against the Papistes that so much boast of him who in his Homilie on the Gospell for the first Sunday after Trinitie writeth thus Sinus Abraham requies heatorum pauperum quorum est regnum coelorum quo post
hanc vitam recipiuntur That is Abrahams Bosome is the rest of the blessed poore whose is the kingdome of heauē whither after this life they are receiued So by the iudgement of Beda agreeing with the trueth Abrahams Bosome is the Kingdome of Heauen with Lazarus was caried Out of the same place also it is apparent concerning the Soules of the Wicked For the Rich Glutton is sayd on the contrarie to be carried downe into Hell Therefore the Soules liue after the Body 19. Luk. 23.43 Christ hanging on the Crosse said vnto the Thiefe This day shalt thou be with mee in Paradise Now that Paradise is Heauen is prooued by Saint Paul in the 2. Cor. 12. 1 2 3 4. where he sayth He was taken vp into the third Heauen which hee calleth Paradise But the Thiefe could not be with Christ in Paradise in the Body because that was dead buried Therefore his Soule was with Christs in Paradise and so consequently the Soule liueth and is Immortall 20. Luk. 23.46 Father into thy hands I commende my spirit 21. John 16. Your ioy shall no man take from you 22. John 5.24 Hee that heareth my word and beleeueth in him that sent me hath euerlasting life shal not come into condemnation but hath passed from death to life 23. Joe 6.54 Whosoeuer eateth my flesh and drinketh my Blood hath eternall life and I will raise him vp at the last day 24. Joh. 11.26 Who soeuer liueth and beleeueth in mee shall neuer die 25. 1. Cor. 2. The eye hath not seene neither eare hath heard neither can it enter into mans heart what thinges God hath prepared for them that loue him 26. 2. Cor. 5.8 8 We loue rather to remoue out of the Body to dwell with the Lord Wherefore the Soules sleepe not as some Anabaptistes will haue them but inioy Immortall life celestiall glory with God 27. Phil. 1.23 I desire to be loosed and to be with Christ He speaketh of the rest and ioy which he should inioy with Christ But they who feele nothing what can their ioy or happinesse be Wherefore they also are refuted in this poynt that say That mens Soules sleepe and so withall denie the Immortalitie of the Soule 28. 1. Thes 4. So shall we euer be with the Lord. 29. Reuel 2. To him that ouercommeth will I giue to eate of the Tree of Life which is in the middest of the Paradise of God Be faythfull vnto the death and I shall giue thee the Crowne of life Reue. 3. Him that ouercommeth will I make a Pillar in the Temple of God and he shall goe no more out To him that ouercommeth will I graunt to sit with me in my seate 31. Reu. 4. The 24. Elders that sate on the Seates were clothed in White rayment and had on their heades Crownes of Gold 32. Reu. 7.15 16 17. 15 They are in the presence of the Throne of God and serue him day and night in his Temple and he that sitteth on the Throne will dwell among them 16 They shall hunger no more neither thirst any more neither shall the Sunne light on them neither any heate 17 For the Lame which is in the middest of the Throne shall gouerne them and shall lead them vnto the liuely Fountaines of waters and God shall wipe away all teares from their eyes 1. Cor. 15.19 If in this life onely we hope in Christ then are we most miserable of all men If Christians in this life onely do hope in Christ 1. If they hope of Christ for the blessednesse of this life onely and not of one to come then are they most miserable of all men But Christians are not most miserable of all men Ergo they do not looke or hope of Christ for the blessednesse of this life onely but also of the life to come and by a consequent they shall rise from the dead that they may be partakers of that blessednesse in an other life These testimonies of Scriptures doe teach and confirme most euidently that not onely in the Body before death and after the resurrection of the Body but also in the whole space and time comming betweene the Soules are liue feele vnderstand out of the Body though the manner of their operations be to vs vnknowne Wherefore also this gift of Immortalitie hath some similitude with God who alone is the onely fountaine of life hath Immortalitie as sayth Paul 1 Tim. 6.16 The Aduersaries of this Trueth the deare dearelings of the Diuell fighting with weapons of their graund Captaine Sathan euen as he in tempting our Sauiour Christ wrested the Scriptures to his purpose euen so they peruerting the true sense alleadge sundry places of the Scriptures to disprooue the Immortalitie of the Soule and to approoue their owne wicked assertion that the Soule is Mortall Of which hellish Champions and their vaine and wicked not reasons but wordes I with a reproofe will bring a double disproofe and so thereby giue our side a stronger approofe by enterpreating their false alleadged places according to the right sense and meaning 1. Gen. 2. In the day that thou eatest of the Tree of knowledge of Good and Euill thou shalt die the death Loe say they the death of Body and Soule both Answere interpreating the place The Lord in this Scripture doth not threaten to Man the destruction or extinguishing of his Soule but eternall Death that is the horrible feeling and terrour of Gods wrath and iudgement and to liue forsaken and cast off from God subiect to all miseries torments vnto the which eternall death the separation and parting asunder of the Soule and Body by temporall death is an adiunct which at that time through Gods mercie was deferred that that mankind might be saued For so was Adam dead while he yet liued in Paradise euen so soone as euer he had eaten the forbidden Fruite So in eternall death liue all the damned and reprobate whose Fire shall not be put out and their Worme shall neuer die So in the second to the Ephesians are they sayd To be dead through sinne that liue in sinne without repentance And Ephes 5. Hee who from sinne is reclaymed to God is willed to rise from the dead And Rom. 7.5 Paul saith That through the knowledge of sinne and the wrath of God hee was dead 2. Eccles. 3.19 19 The condition of the Children of men and the condition of Beastes are euen as one condition to them As the one dyeth so dyeth the other for they haue all one breath and there is no excellencie of Man aboue the Beast for all is Vanitie 20 All goe to one place and all was dust shall returne to the dust Therfore the Soule is not Immortall Answere interpreating Heere they are deceiued by a fallation taking that to be spoken simply which is but secundum quid i. in some fort or in some respect For the Preacher doth not simply say That Men die as Beastes and so doe vtterly perish for
this sense cantradicteth other Scriptures But in two respectes the death of Men and the death of Beastes are like 1. Because Men must needes once die and depart out of this life because Men are not heere to continue for euer nor haue heere a setled place 2. Men die as Beastes that is In the sense and iudgement of the Wicked they seeme to perish 3. Psal 78.39 Hee remembred that they were but flesh yea a winde that passeth away and commeth not againe Ergo Mortall Answere By these and such like speaches is described and be wayled the frayltie of all humaine affaires that with God doe perish and come to nothing For as in this place they are likened to a Winde that soone vanisheth away so in Psal 103. they are compared to Dust Earth and Flowers of the field So Iob. 14. Man commeth vp as a Flower and is cutte downe Isa 40.6 All flesh is grasse 4. Psal 88.5 I am counted as slaine lying in the Graue whom thou remembrest no more Answere In these wordes the Psalmist doth not meane that either hee himselfe or the dead are exempted from Gods prouidence But hee complayneth that hee is forsaken of God euen as it seemeth to men that God careth not for the dead And therefore hee speaketh not according to the sense of Fayth but of his owne opinion weaknesse and miserie who iudgeth those thinges to be forsakèn and neglected of God whose deliuerie for a while he doth deferre But what Fayth in the meane season doth suggest and tell the Godly euen when they striue and wrastle with temptation he sheweth in the ii Psal and vers 2. The iust shall be had in an euerlasting remembrance 5. Psal 146.4 His Spirit departeth and returneth to his earth and then all his thoughtes perish Ergo. c. Answere Hee doth not heere say That the Spirit or Soule of men doth not die or vanish or is bereaued of sense But that it departeth to witte from the Body wherein it dwelleth and that not the Spirit but the Body returneth to earth which was made of earth And where he sayth That all his thoughtes perish he meaneth not that the Soule is after this life bereaued of Reason Iudgement and Sense of Gods mercie or wrath but that mans Purposes and Counsailes are made frustrate which in his life he had setled him selfe to bring to passe In which sense it is sayd in Psal 112.10 The desire of the Wicked shall perish 6. Psal 88. 10. Wilt thou shew a miracle to the dead Or shall the dead rise and prayse thee Whereunto we adde all such places as take away worshipping of God from the dead which must needes prooue the Soule not Immortall Answere In such speaches Death and Hell or the Graue haue two significations They who are spiritually dead whether before or after the death of the Body that is they that are depriued of Gods grace and forsaken and reiected of God and are in Hell that is in the place and tormentes of the Damned or else in this life despayring and destitute of comfort shall not prayse God at all neither in this life nor in the life to come But they who are dead not spiritually but corporally onely although they shall not prayse God while their Bodyes are in Hell that is in the Graue for which this word Hell is often vsed in the Scriptures yet in Soule they shall not ceasse to acknowledge and prayse God vntill when they haue receiued their Bodyes againe they shall magnifie him both in Soule and Body in the Celestiall eternitie But in the meane time sith God will be acknowledged and magnified of men in this life also therefore both the whole Church and euery one of the faythfull not onely pray that they may not fall into that forsaking and that sense of Gods wrath wherewith the Wicked are oppressed but also desire that they may be preserued and defended in this mortall life vntill the end thereof appoynted by God be expired for the Saintes doe not simply stand in feare of the bodily Death and Graue but that they may not be forsaken of God neither fall into desperation or destruction or their enimies insult against God when they are ouerthrowne This with dayly and ardent prayers and petitions they begge and craue continually 7. Psal 146. 2. I will prayse the Lord during my life as long as I haue any beeing I will sing vnto my God Heere hee restreyneth prayses to this life onely Answere This place maketh nothing to the purpose For he doth not limit prayses to this life but this he onely sayth that he will spend all the time of this mortall life in Gods prayses which notwithstanding in many other places he extendeth to continuall eternitie as Psal 34. I will prayse the Lord continually But often times this particle Vntill or As long signifieth a continuance of the time going before some euent without any excluding of the time following as 1. Cor. 15.25 Hee must raigne Vntill hee hath put all his enimies vnder his feete I thinke they will not say that when Christes enimies are put vnder his feete that then he shall raigne no longer 8. Job 10.20 Let him ceasse and leaue off from mee that I may take a little comfort before I goe and shall not returne Ergo the Soule is Mortall there is no Resurrection Answere In these wordes he denyeth that hee shall returne into this Mortall life and conuerse amongst men in this World But he denieth not that he in the meane season hath his beeing and doth liue vntill againe he see God in the flesh euen the same Iob who then was afflicted as himselfe sayth chap. 19.26 9. Iob. 3.11 Why died I not when I came out of the Wombe so should I haue lyen quiet and been at rest Answere Iob in these wordes doth not denie that the Soules after death doe liue feele and vnderstand but onely he sayth the Miseries of this present life are not felt Instance Iob would not wish for a bad change but if there be euils felt in the life to come hee wished for a badde change Ergo. c. Answere Iob wished not for the death of the wicked but of the godly Instance But Job maketh Kinges and Princes also which gather Gold vnto them vers 14.15 small and great good and badde vers 16 17 18 19. partakers of this rest Answere It plainely appeareth out of the whole processe and discourse of Jobs wordes that he doth not teach what is the state of men after this life but onely desireth to be ridde out of his present miserie And therefore through humaine infirmitie and impatience he compareth the sense and feeling of his present miseries with the death and state of the Dead whatsoeuer it be As they who are grieuously tormented with present Distresses and Calamities preferre any thing whatsoeuer before that which they suffer So also he sayth in the 7. chap. speaking as one despayring of deliuerie in this life Remember