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A89682 An apology for the service of love, and the people that own it, commonly called, the family of love. Being a plain, but groundly discourse, about the right and true Christian religion : set forth dialogue-wise between the citizen, the countreyman, and an exile : as the same was presented to the high court of Parliament, in the time of Queen Elizabeth; and penned by one of her Majesties menial servants, who was in no small esteem with her, for his wisdom and godliness. With another short confession of their faith, made by the same people. And finally some notes & collections, gathered by a private hand out of H.N. upon, or concerning the eight beatitudes. Niclaes, Hendrik, 1502?-1580? 1656 (1656) Wing N1122; Thomason E1610_1; ESTC R210332 24,412 73

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iniquity and with all Hypocrites receive their portion in the hellish condemnation consider advisedly of it for it is very true Citizen But wilt thou say that all those and such like are no Christian Exile Yes verily by signe or outward show and name they be Citizen And must not such preach the truth notwithstanding shew forth the many high knowledges and secret mysteries out of the Scriptures Exile Yea all what they heart spoken or chance to read in any writing that can they readily speak out againe But not like as all those true prophets of God and disciples of Christ have alwayes done out of any Godly understanding through the holy Spirit of God or Christ for that were impossible because the same Spirit is not with them For allbeit they have the Scriptures and the Godly witnesses wherethrough they mean to be understanding and wise yet forasmuch as they give not all their understanding over as captive under the obedience of the love of Christ and his holy word as under that same Being or life whereunto the Scripture witnesseth but run still forth with the knowledge so have they verily neither light truth spirit nor being of God Christ nor of his word And therefore they neither know nor yet understand any thing at all rightly of that whereof they then praie or speak forth unto others Citizen If all such as thou hast here spoken of were libertines having neither light truth nor spirit of God or Christ then God be mercifull unto us for then were it all in vain for many a one in these dayes to stand up or teach in a Congregation notwithstanding I cannot be perswaded as yet although I most needs grant that for the most part they do not live the same which they do teach to others like as they themselves have confessed but that they neverthelesse preach unto the people both Gods word the truth out of the right spirit be they themselves never to evil else God forbid And I pray you Sirs did not Judas amongst the rest of the apostles go and preach the Gospel and yet was not he a wicked one and betrayed his master And did not Peter which denied his master preach Gospel also And it is written The Scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses seat or Chair what they bid you observe that observe and do But as they do do you not for they sayd and do nor Therefore why may not wicked men preach the truth Exile Let us consider advised by of the Scriptures and be no longer deceived Forasmuch as it standeth written that Christ is the light of the world the Heavenly truth the right spirit yea and the word of God it self Then how were it possible that those which are void of Christ should preach or prophesie aright the true to inde or word of God contained in the holy Scriptures the whilst I say that the same spirit of truth is not in them for it is written that the Scripture never came by the will or mind of man but holy men of God did speak as they were inspired by the holy Ghost And it is written also that the naturall or fleshly minded man perceaveth not the things of God c. And again wisdom will not dwell in a froward soul nor yet in a body that is subdued to sin For where wickednesse hath the upper hand the holy Ghost doth flie from thence And yet note then moreover that after such time that man hath once entred into Judas he preached not 〈◊〉 Peter perceaving afterward what he had done he wept bitterly wherefore I am not against any one that will weep with Peter And as for such as sit in Moses seat or chair which teach the law uprightly I have not once touched I speak onely of them that sit in their own chair of pestilence which reach their own law or Imagination of their fleshly parts and good thinking but not the holy lan● of the Lord which is spirituall and containeth the truth the life or Christ it self And therefore for want of the true spirit of understanding there ariseth in these dayes great contention about the Scriptures Citizen The more is to be lamented But yet I pray thee answer me herein for I am not resolved in this matter Have we not now the truth amongst us Is not now the Gospel preached sincerely and received of all people thankfully to their salvation where through the bonds of Antichrist which is the Pope of Rome that had us long in captivity are now broken and we all by that means set at liberty Exile We have no doubt the holy Scriptures which bear witness of the truth and therein the minde or meaning of the truth is contained amongst us So have we many wholsome Sermons preached and declared unto us notwithstanding had we the truth amongst us so had we Christ amongst us and had we Christ amongst us so world we no doubt lo●e him or his word and neither would persecute him nor his members And then had he once a form or shape in us so should he likewise manifestly appear out of us in our good conversation and holy walking For it is written If Christ be in you then is the body dead or mortified concerning sin And again Whosoever hath not the spirit of Christ the same is none of his And were the Gospel preached sincerely out of the truth that is out of the spirit of God or Christ through a good conversation under the obedience of the word in all meek-mindedness and godly love so would many thousands in this land doubtless have repented them of their former life and amended their ways upon the preaching of the same Gospel and would have moreover followed the footsteps of such godly Preachers or Prophets as had even so imitated Christ and so then in very deed the people should have received the Gospel thankfully to their salvation and by that means should the bonds of Antichrist which is the sin the devil or will of the flesh which hath long time held us captive be broken in us and we then rightly through Christ should have been delivered there-from and set at liberty Notwithstanding how many in these days are set at liberty or have taken to themselves at liberty to do all manner of uncomliness both against God and man I refer that to the Testimony of their own Consciences Citizen I perceive then thou art not against any godly Preachers that walk forth in all obedience of the word and in whom Christ doth live and dwell which also do shew forth through the same meek-minded spirit all due obedience to God and Governours as likewise an upright lovely peaceable and brotherly life towards all men and that preach forth the same word of truth and life which they as then have both felt handled and tasted of unto others moe Exile No verily but I do reverence in the Lord all such as the true ministers and distributers of the heavenly riches and