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A86664 The horn of the he-goat broken: or An answer to a lying book called, The chasing of the young quaking harlot out of the citie. Published by a scorner of the truth, called Thomas Winterton. His deceit and ignorance laid open, his lies reproved, and the quæries answered, for the sake of the simple. / By a lover of righteousnesse, called, Richard Huberthorn. Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662. 1656 (1656) Wing H3224; Thomason E883_2; ESTC R202543 10,530 16

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imaginations and hast the ground of thy belief to seek First come down out of thy imaginations that thou mayes feel the ground of Faith till then thou art no believer and thereby be led up into a persect state to have communion with God in Paradise till then thou art in that which Adam lost and cannot understand an estate above nor believe it though it be told thee that which now enquires must lose its life ere thou come into Paradise Gods secrets must not feed Serpents 5. Whether Adam in Paradise did not partake of that light with which Christ lightneth every one that cometh into the world Ans The life of Adam in Paradise is the same that is the light of the word wherewith he lightneth every one that commeth into the world and of this Adam did partake in Paradise which gave him light and understanding which when he went into the selfish knowledge he became bruitish and this a witnesse against him 6. Whether this light of Christ and all other lights within man if any there be are not seated in the understanding and mind and whether all mens surest light is not conveyed through the senses to the understanding and whether this will not more clearly appear if considered that the stopping of the current of the senses the understanding becometh totally dark as unto certainties it having nothing there to nourish it but imaginations Answ In this thou shewes thy confusion with thy many lights but hast lost the knowledge of the true light and so utters thy darkiness First asks if the light be not seated in the understanding and then asks if it be not conveyed through the senses to the understanding but the surest light is conveyed by faith thereof born in the understanding and not by thy sense and to thy wits end that is carnall must thou come if this thou learn for the mystery is held in a pure conscience and not in thy sensuall understanding and who knowes this hath their understanding enlightned by faith and not by the current of the naturall senses 7. and 8. Whether it argueth not darknesse in the understanding to determine any thing reall or certain which was not conveyed by the senses to the understanding whether for want of this consideration many hath not been possessed with as strong a confidence of a certainty as all their powers both of soul and body could procure yea to the laying down of their lives and yet a meer imagination Ans To determine any thing before the Lord argues darknesse in the understanding but what he reveals in the spirit of faith and leads into by his light and not by the sensuall understanding and for want of this consideration have many been possessed with a strong confidence of a certainty and not having found their ends therein have turned back again into deceit ready to conclude there is no God because he would not answer their imaginations who determined things in their own wills before the guiding of his spirit and see if hereof thou be not guilty 9 Whether John Lilburn was not as confident that God own●d him in his Religion opposing the powers of this Nation as Saul was in his designe to Damascus and whether Sauls conversion to a Christian and John Lilburns resolving to a Quaker be upon one and the same ground Ans That Jo. Lilburn was confident in his Religion is plain else had he not so long been deceived and that God owned him in opposing many of the unjust powers of the Nation is as plain else had not he lived to have been converted and that the ground thereof is the same wherewith Paul was converted is as evident as the rest to them that are in the light and out of the immaginations and your envy to him since he owned the truth is no small testimony of it and so all things testifying together the tree will be known by its fruits to them that are not blind 10. Whether God did not convey this new light or dispensation to Sauls und●rstanding through his senses● in that it is said he heard and saw as a sure ground to build his faith upon and also whether he did not give him power and authority by signes and wonders to convey to the understanding of those to whom he mas sent to convert a sure ground of faith also Ans Here thou hast manifested that thou art blind and in confusion for the ground of faith is but one in Paul and those that were converted and this ground of faith is not of Man nor conveyed from one Man to another but it is the gift of God and Christ is the author of it In thy Quaerie thou art speaking of the light in which he heard and saw being the ground of Pauls faith and the signes and wonders wrought by Paul being a sure ground to convey faith to the people if thou wert not blind thou would see that in Paul and the People the ground of faith is but one and they that believed because of the Miracles their faith as thine doth stands in that which is changeable and is not from the true ground but those which Paul preached unto he told them that the Word of Faith was within them the word which he preached and the light was in them and so he was to turn them to the light and to the word which was within them And whereas thou asks whether it was not conveyed through the senses to the understanding first learn to know where it is and what it doth enlighten in thee and then thou wilt know what it is conveyed through for as yet in thee thy senses is ignorant of it though it shine in darkness 11. Whether if Jo. Lilburne have receaved the same ground of faith so conveyed to his understanding immediately from God as Saul had or by some other whom God hath endued with power and authority to convey a ground of faith as Paul did then far be it from me for blaming of J. Lilburne for being a Quaker otherwise whether if he have not receaved the ground of faith aforesaid whether it be not easie to discern that Jo. Lilburnes Resurrection is but a mear immagination or Quaking Delusion Ans Faith is the gift of God and not the gift of Paul and herein thou art blind and Christ saith believe in the light while ye have the light but he did not bid them believe in that which was of Man nor conveyed by Men to one another yet thou confesseth that it was conveyed to Paul immediately from God Therefore seeing thou makes a difference shew who did ever receave faith or the ground of it and not from God and what was the ground of Abrahams faith and Enochs before the Scripture letter was written but the ground of Jo. Lilburns faith is immediately from God as Pauls was and therfore thou may cease blaming of him for his being turned to the faith 12. Whether it be not easie to find out whether the Quakers doctrine be a dispensation of God or a dispensation of mans wil whether if it be of God he will not take the same care for the devulging of it as he did of his former dispensations that is by such evidences as no falfe Minister could procure as when he commanded his Apostles to preach to the world and to baptize them that believed and to teach them to observe all things c. Ans Although our Doctrine be of God yet to thee and all in that nature it is not easie to know nor find to be so for none knowes our Doctrine wherher it be of God but he that doth the will of our Father and walk in his obedience and it is manifest that thou yet hates the way whereby our Doctrine is known for thou having not the spirit of truth how art thou like to know that Doctrine which is of God from immaginations that which thou tries withall being thy immaginary faculty but that the Lord takes the same care for his Ministers now as ever he did is manifest even by such evidences as no false Minister can produce for never any of the false Ministers which the Lord did not send did turn any from their iniquity nor from darkness to light nor from the power of Satan unto God which now many do witness from the Ministery which God hath now raised up in this age which is the torment of the false Prophet for if it had not been evidenced in power and by the spirit of the Lord to be contrary to the false Doctrine especially in turning people from the wickedness which your Doctrine keeps them in then it might have found favour amongst you and would not so much have been dispised but to us it is an evident token of salvation and that from God though to you of perdition FINIS
THE HORN OF THE He-goat broken OR AN ANSWER to a lying Book called The chasing the young Quaking Harlot out of the Citie Published by a scorner of the Truth called Thomas Winterton His Deceit and Ignorance laid open his lies reproved and the Quaeries answered for the sake of the simple By a lover of Righteousnesse called Richard Huberthorn LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black-spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1656. TO THE READER READER THE time is come and coming wherein the God of Heaven is setting up his Kingdome which is not carnall but spirituall and establishing his Throne in righteousnesse and the day is appeared and appearing wherein all that oppose him shall be ashamed Now when he is declaring his righteousnesse and his saving health in the Nations and now the Man of Sin and Antichrist is discovered and the hidden things is brought to light and now when his enemies cannot hide themselves any longer but their shame must appeare who are covered and not with the spirit of the Lord. Therefore I say because the Lord in his mercy hath caused his marvellous light to arise in the earth the Prince of darknesse is angry and all his subjects because their judgement drawes nigh and their strength must be thrown down And as the Lord hath made manifest his light more than in some generations past Therefore the rage of the old Dragon is greater and his Angels and Instruments who are to be taken with the Beast and the false Prophet and shut up in the pit and sealed in utter darknesse for ever and therefore he is come forth in his power and his strength and all his subjects every one with such weapons as they have some with clubs some with prisons whippings reproaches and mockings some with their corrupt sensuall wisdome to oppose some with lies and slanders but all is at work to defend their Masters Kingdome and would not have the man to rule Christ Jesus who will judge all their unrighteousness and bring down the Beast out of his seat amongst whom thou mayst see Tho. Winterton sitting neer his Master unto whom he is fallen upon the throne of unrighteousness In a former Book he denied any thing above nature to guide man and in this his last book would judge of us by his evill consequence and he hath denied that he hath any thing that is infallible but he saith he judges by his imaginary faculty and he judges us in the 15. page to be Harlots because we speak plain language as Thou and so hath made all the holy men of God Harlots and adulterers who used the same and so blasphemously against the spirit of truth hath set him self and makes lies his refuge as the rest of the Dragons Army do and therefore these few things mind wherein his shame is laid open and his lies denied and his sensuall Quaeries answered which rose from his imaginary faculty And so take heed Reader thou come not in the way of the liers nor lend thy ear to the wicked but mind the light of Christ Jesus which will shew thee men of corrupt minds and corrupt things and seeing in the single eye In vain doth the Fowler spread his net in the sight of the Bird. Try all things by measure of the Spirit hold that which is good A friend to righteousness I am and a lover of thy soul R. H. An Answer to Tho. Winterton his Book which he affirmeth to be a Chasing of the young quaking Harlot out of the Citie which if those that he writes against be not by it chased out of the Citie then all may take him to be a false Prophet which reads what he hath affirmed by his book to be brought to passe IN thy former Book thou hast been proved to deny the Father Son and Spirit and denied that there is any thing in thee above nature And in this book also thou hast made it manifest to be guided onely by the naturall senses and so to be sensual having not the Spirit and so in this thy sensuall wisdom without the Spirit of God thou goest about to prove us to be the Harlot and to be upon two dangerous designes the first by our Doctrine the second by the Sword First as from our Doctrine to prove it thou bringest four particulars as first that we say That the peoples senses understanding and reason were carnall fleshly and unto condemnation To which I answer All people which hate the light of Christ as thou dost and set up reason and imagination to be their guide knows nothing above nature in them their senses are reprobate and their understandings darkned and their reason carnall and fleshly which is for condemnation with the light And to those thar were sensuall whose reason was carnall and fleshly did the Apostles minister condemnation as thou may read in the Scriptures and yet that proved them not to be harlots but their design in their doctrine was to exalt Christ which is the true light and lightneth every one that cometh into the world and our design is the same against which no inchantmens lies nor false accusations from Priests nor Atheists can prevail The second particular wherein thou would prove us to be the Harlot and our design to be dongerous is because we say That Christ lightneth every one that cometh into the world And to this thou thy self in the fifth page of thy Book confessest to be a truth clear from Scripture and that this light discovers to every one that will both good and evil and in the fourth page thou callest this particular That Christ hath lightned every one that comes into the World a pure truth and yet thou would make the people believe that we were the Harlot for holding forth the pure truth and so thy own breath as fire shall devoure thee And hereby the pure truth of God which we hold forth is cleared and thou broken to pieces by the stone upon which thou fallest But all thy Atheisme and all the Priests doctrine cannot make the people so blind as to believe that holding forth the pure truth of God will make us to be an Harlot or our design dangerous and here thou hast manifested thy spirit that all may see what we are accused for by whom being accused to be harlots hereticks deceivers and deluders blasphemers and dangerous because we hold forth the pure truth of God according to the Scriptures yea so far hath God turned the wise backward and made their wisdome foolishnesse that even our enemies and accusers are forced to confesse that it is holding forth the pure truth according to the Scripture for which we are accused as T. Winterton hath done to his own shame and confusion The third particular from which thou would prove us to be the harlot and our designes dangerous are in these words which thou sayst thou gathered from our Doctrine That who so believes in this light it is as a fire and a