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A77100 Paideia Thriamous. The triumph of learning over ignorance, and of truth over faleshood. Being an answer to foure quæries. Whether there be any need of universities? Who is to be accounted an hæretick? Whether it be lawfull to use coventicles? Whether a lay-man may preach? VVhich were lately proposed by a zelot, in the parish church at Swacie neere Cambridge, after the second sermon, October 3. 1652. Since that enlarged by the answerer, R.B. B.D. and fellow of Trin. Col. Camb. R. B. (Robert Boreman), d. 1675. 1652 (1652) Wing B3760; Thomason E681_10; ESTC R206793 32,371 43

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Deity the * Gen. 2.7 breath of God are more † Mar. 8.37 Mat. 16.26 pretious then our bodies which are clodds of earth and by nature cages of uncleannesse by so much greater ought our care to be towards those then these mortall bodies Now no man that hath a Treasure of Jewels or gold about him will venture alone into a place which is a receptacle of Theeves and Robbers None that is found in health will thrust himselfe boldly without feare or wit into the company of those who are infected with the plague or some other noysome disease Oh then how doe they at once betray their Religion and forfeit their reason who mingle themselves with Hereticks and resort frequently to the company of Schismaticks who are Theeves and Robbers John 10.8 for that they steale the Truth out of mens hearts and rob their high-born Soules of the love of God and goodness whose opinions likewise are worse then the plague in the event and consequent for as they incurably infect the soul So being embraced and followed they debarre men from ever coming to the Kingdome of God Vid. Gal. 5.19 witnesse likewise that of * Ignat. Epist ad Philad Ignatius which did our Saparatists understand his language they would read with a trembling in their joynts like that great prince in Daniel c. 5. v. 6. when he read his doome on the wall The words of Ignatius in English are these * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. Ignat. ibid. They that joyne themselves in a faction and adhere in affection to such who separate and divide their hearts from the Truth such men shall not inherit the Kingdome of God They who shun not the company of false Teachers shall be condemned to everlasting torments For as with David we must hate the congregation of the wicked or evill doers such are perverse Schismaticks So must we delight in the company of the Saints who are such not onely in name but also in practise being pure in their opinions holy in their lives not carnall nor sensuall Psal 26.4 They despise not Government neither speake evill of those who are set in authority over them by God Jude ver 8. but are Spirituall Heavenly minded meeke and obedient these are the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Those that excell in vertue commended by H. * Psal 16.3 David for our choice respect and companie Againe in the second place as reason fetches an argument against them from the danger of such meetings where the Devill may seize upon thee as hee did once upon that woman in the Theater as Tertullian recordes Tertul. cap. 26. li. de spectaculis There he calls Conventicles Diaboli Ecclesias c. so my reason tells mee Thus should every one argue with himselfe That it is a shame and disgrace for a Christian a brother of Christ to follow such a Teacher to make him his Master who is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a servant to his owne belly and a slave to his lusts the subserviencie to which hath ever beene the originall of Heresies as Theophylact notes well upon that place of the Apostle Rom. 16.18 They serve not the Lord Jesus but their own bellies This is spoken of Schismaticks whose private meetings end commonly in belly-cheere in luxurie and wantonnesse This is too well knowne to be true in these Truth-denying times and this too was confessed of † It was on the 1. of April last 1652. on which day I baptized two of his children in the open Congregation one newly borne the other of the Age of two years and an halfe late to me by a Taylour here at Whethamstead to be the cause of his revolt from such private meetings and coming againe to our Church it was as he ingeniously said their disorder and unseemly carriage in their Conventicles that moved him a man of a tender Spirit to forsake their wicked company and return to God Oh therefore be perswaded in time before you meet with destruction to avoid such Teachers and their meetings in dark cells and corners They are nurceries of sinne and corruption Though Israel play the Halot let not Judah offend Come ye not to Gilgal neither goe up to Bethaven Hos 4.15 Give not up your names to be those mens Disciples who for ought ye know may be the Popes Legats who broach new opinions contrary to those you have received and repugnant to the Scriptures Bern. Non pastores sed Impostores such men are not Doctores but Seductores not Doctours but Seducers not Pastours but Imposters Therefore shun their company come not into their privat assemblies lest ye be defiled with their pollutions corrupted by their Haeresies which ever end in Schisme both which break the bones and bruise the flesh of Christs Church his * Cant. 4.9,10 S●ouse And he that lives and dyes in a Schisme cannot hope to be saved being severed from that body whereof Christ Jesus is the Head which body is quickned by that Spirit whereby we shall be raised Rom. 8.11 If the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you He that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortall bodies c. If then that Spirit dwell not in you you shall not be glorified As a member that is cut off from the body dyes and by no art can be quickned or have life put into it being severed from the Influentiall vertue or activity of that Soul which gives life to the body whereto whilst it was joyned it lived and moved I le conclude this third Quaere with that exhortation of the Apostle Eph. 4.3 Keep the Vnitie of the Spirit in the bond of peace that is in Love and Charity If this heavenly fire burnes and glows in your Christian breast you will not from that which I have delivered deduce this uncharitable and mistaken Inference as some once did but are now better informed of my intentions That I am an enemy to all kindes of meetings of Gods Saints and Servants I am not I exhort them often to meet but when Not when they should be at Church what to do Not to take upon them the Ministers office to preach but to repeat what they have heard from the mouths of their orthodox Teachers or to read the Scriptures to the unlearned or lastly to doe as David did i. e. Psal 66.18 Tell what God hath done for their Souls the manner of their Conversion the method and meanes God used to comfort them in their tribulation or to pray together Psal 122.6 for the peace of Hierusalem for the restauration of the poore distressed Church for a blessing upon the persons and labours of their honest Ministers let this be the end of your house-meetings and my Soul shall meet with you in commendation of your holy practise and in prayer for a blessing on your pious exercise but if you do otherwise e. i. forsake
who labour to draw the people's mindes from the love of the publick Congregation and engage them to their private meetings whereby they commonly intangle them in their errours and Haeresies Therefore if they say as the Vid. August Ep. 48. Donatists once did that Christ is onely amongst them in their Crypts and Conventicles beleeve them not for they doe contrary to the precept and practise of Christ He wills or enjoynes us to † Luk. 12.8 confesse Him and his Truth before men i. e. to make an open profession of our Faith both in times of persecution and peace He himselfe ever * Joh. 18.19,20 taught publikely as he witnessed of himselfe before Pilat He † Luk. 4.15.44 did so to teach us this lesson That Truth seeks not corners but loves the light therefore it is sometimes called light in the Holy Scriptures Eph. 5.8 Walke as Children of the Light Vid. Act. 26.18 But they that * Joh. 3.19 Men love darknesse rather then light because their deeds are evill hate the Truth delight in darknesse dare not say that in an open Congregation what they spawn and vent in a Conventicle or private meeting Therefore avoyd them joyne not with them beware of making a Schisme in the ●hurch or making that rent wider which was first begun of late by the Presbyterians Adhere not to Schismaticks whose portion without a deep repentance for so great a sinne as wounding Christs Church shall be after death in the Land of darknesse because they loved darknesse rather then light I never read that saying of August Aug. Ep. 204. but with horrour and dread when I considered the common guilt Foris ab Ecclesiâ constitutus separatus à communione unitatis vinculo charitatis aeterno supplicio punireris etiamsi pro Christi nomine vivus comburereris i. e. He or She that out of pride or peevishnesse separates himselfe from the bodie of the Church whose members are knit together by the ligaments of one faith and bond of love that man shall be punished with everlasting torments although he should die in the flame and be burnt for the name of Christ Such biting Truths as these are the cause why Schismaticks and Hereticks love not to read the Fathers nor vouchsafe so much as to name them in their Sermons or writings Therefore let no man deceive you with vaine words for for such things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of Disobedience Be not then companions with them for ye were sometimes darkenesse but are now light in the Lord walk as Children of Light Eph. 5.6,7,8 And conforme your selves to the * Christi actio nostri debet esse instrinctio Aug. example of our Lord and Master Jesus who † Luke 19.47 preached in the Synagogues and the Temple notwithstanding they were places full of disorder and corruption He * Mat. 21.13 called the Temple a Denne of theeves and are there not too many in ours † Mat. 15.3 The Doctrine of the Law was then corrupted by the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the false glosses of the Scribes and Pharisees is not the Doctrine of the Gospel as much corrupted by ours Besides all this they were loose and wicked in their lives witnesse that charge of our Saviour to his followers and Auditours against the Jewish Doctours Mat. 23.23 Doe not after their workes c. Notwithstanding all these corruptions and deformities in the Jewish Church yet our Saviour Christ made no separation from it but came and preached in those places of publick concourse where the Seducers and false Teachers were If this example and practise of our Saviour will not convince and startle into feare and obedience the Separatists of our age both Teachers and Disciples I know not what will doe it Area Dominica nondum ventilata est sine paleis esse non potest Nos eremus atque agamus quantum possumus ut palea simus Aug. Ep. 203. If Christ should have trodd in their steps been led by their fond opinion he would have made a Separation and fled from the Society of the Jewes and not so much as once gone into the Temple or taught in their Synagogues but he did otherwise and from what he did we may conclude that the practise of those Phanaticks who separate themselves from all Assemblies or publick places of Gods service pretending either a want of gifts or a defect of holinesse in the Ministers I say the practise of such men doth speake them to be those Antichrists which the Apostle S. John mentions in his first Epistle 1 Ep. Ioh. c 2. v. 18 19. Now there are many Antichrists whereby we may know it is the last time They went out from us c. i. e. They turn'd Separatists therefore Antichrists because they went flat against the practice and precept of Christ who commands us by his Apostle Phil. 1.27.2.2 to be of one heart and of one minde to thinke and speake and doe the same thing in good to love as Brethren who forsake not one anothers company and desert not their family when they discocover any infirmity in their Father or any deformity in their Mother but keep close to both in observance and humble duty We may have communion or fellowship with mens persons in publick worship and not partake in the guilt of their Sinnes I lle communicat malis qui consentit factis malorum Aug. Ep. 171. He communicates with the wicked that consents to their wickednesse abhorre and forsake his sinne then maist thou without feare or danger communicate with a wicked man Si malos odistis vos ipsi mutamini à Scelere Schismatis Si malorum permixtionem timeretis Optatum inter vos in apertissimâ iniquitate viventem per tot annos non teneretis Thus Augustine bespeakes the Donatists So may I the men of our times If you hate the ungodly shew your hatred towards your selves by repenting and turning from your Schisme and Heresies And if you feare the mixture or company of the wicked shun the Society and abhorre the persons of your Leaders by whom you are seduced and corrupted To conventicle on the Lords day a breach of the fourth Commandement A third Argument against such meetings in private on the Lords day may be deduced from the intent and scope of the fourth commandement whose morality in the judgement of all both Fathers and moderne writers consists in this that God be worshipped in the Congregation with publicke service in an open confession of our Faith and a profession of our love and thankfulnesse to him for all his mercies and blessings those which concerne our Soules and those which respect our bodies c. But to wave this and other Arguments which might be produced to confirme my former Thesis I proceed to reasons against Conventicles First Reason suggests this Truth to our Spirits that our Soules being as it were so many sparkes of the