the first Adam is put to death and so the quickning spirit of the second Adam goes over the sinful flesh of the first Adam and there is the resurrection of the seed and the translation of man into its nature where he receives a new body and a new life in which body and life he bears the image of the heavenly and then he is blameless in Body Soul and Spirit Q. And is that the way by which man must come to inherit life eternal A. Yes for life eternal is only in the Son and man in his own life is alienated from it and therefore he must dye to his own life before he can inherit eternal life in the Son Q. And is there none that pleases God but who are thus regenerated and born again A. None in the flesh can please God and therefore man is to wait in the power for a new birth which is not after the flesh but after the spirit which birth of the spirit is the Fathers beloved Son in whom he is well pleased Q. How doth the power dispose man in the death A. It disposes him in stilness keeping all fleshly motions in silence so as a little child he lyes nakedly and innocently before God and hath no will nor wisdom nor reason left in him but all baptized down into the sufferings of Christ where they are dissolved into nothingness and there the power kils him and gives him life again and so man layes down his own life and takes up life in Christ in which life he comes to be raised in the resurrection of Christ and here is the passing from death to life where man puts on Christ and is made a new creature and in a new life he then serves God and pleaseth God for his thoughts words and works are all changed and with a new tongue he then sings the new songs and gives glory and honour and praise and thanks unto him that sits upon the throne who lives for ever and ever and this is in substance the whole matter Q. But doth not the birth of the seed meet with much opposition in its resurrection A. Yes whilest it is in the travaile it is strongly opposed by a contrary nature and many dangers that lyes near on every hand untill death have passed upon all as is said before but when the power hath crucified the first Adam throughout and that the seed be raised into the glorious liberty of its own life then the seed reigneth and hath dominion and government over all oppositions triumphing in victory Q. But how is oppositions removed and dangers escaped in the travaile A. By Faith in the power and watching to be kept close to the leadings of it and so the power will remove oppositions and defend from dangers for the watch being kept to it and the Faith standing stedfast in it the enemy hath no power to prevaile though he may tempt for the living power is as a wall on the right hand and on the left to preserve from dangers and it goes before as a conquerour to remove oppositions and comes behinde as a safe guard to keep off the Enemy for smiting the hind most part of the Campe and thus Christ by his power is all in all every way to the travailing Babe that cannot rest in any place below the freedome of his own life and therefore let none enter into unbeliefe as if oppositions could never be removed nor dangers clearly escaped for he that quickeneth and giveth life to breath after him he is mighty in his power and he doth assuredly save to the utmost the birth of his own begetting which abides in the simple tender breathings to possess more of his life Q. But may there not be captivity after the power be received and that something be quickened by the power to breath after God A. That present state is captivity for that which by the power is quickened to breath after God it is then in captivity and breathes in the power to be delivered out of captivity and as the power is received and Faith kept in it the power works in order to deliverance Q. But may there not be captivity after there be deliverance in some measure wrought by the power A. Yes there may be so for if the minde erre from the power and unbeliefe enter there may be captivity again in those very places out of which the power hath wrought deliverance and so many may come to taste of the good word of God and the powers of the world to come and yet may goe back again and here captivity comes upon many who have had a long travaile out of Egypt and have seen great and wonderfull things wrought by the power Q. But is not the power sufficient to preserve from going a stray and returning again into such a state as to come into captivity after it have wrought deliverance A. The power is as sufficient to preserve as to deliver and is not at al weaker in the one then in the other but where such a state comes to pass there is not Faithfulness to the power but temptations enters and prevailes and so the minde goes from the power into the temptations whereby there is away opened for the darkness to rise again which in the day of tenderness and faithfulness to the power was kept in subjection under the yoak Q. And doth the power follow after such again after they erre from it and doe not abide faithfull in it to recover them and deliver them out of their captivity A. Yes for the Lord waites to be gracious and though there may be a backsliding yet he doth not shut up his compassion but condiscends in bowels of tenderness to follow the wandering sheep which is gone a stray and by the word of his power he calls to return and if there be a yeilding to the word of power and a joyning to it again the Lord heales the backslidings and loves as freely as ever he did and so he brings the erring sheep again into the Fold and gives it pasture amongst his Flock and here he shews his goodness in the Riches of his mercy Q. And doth the power preserve and keep all safe in their travaile that abide in it Faithfully A. Yes for they that abide in the power and are guided by the power they doe not erre but by the power are kept through faith unto Salvation and all the babes that live in the power they receive strength in the power and doe not faint Q. What are the dangers that may befall whilest the seed is in travaile A. There be very many which the light discovers distinctly yet I shall name a few of them 1. To glory in the flesh with that which is manifest from God in the day of tenderness 2. To gather the manifestation of truth into the wisdome below and to enrich the false birth 3. To center in the forme or practice of truth as it stands in appearance onely 4.
him when the darkness tempts him and when the lusts of the flesh are moving to any evil and thus doth the light within man manifest it selfe in order to Salvation Q. And is the light an universall manifestation unto all men A. Yes And that without respect of persons Q. And is the love of God universally tendred unto all in such a manifestation A. Yes For the light being manifest from the love it tendres it selfe in the manifestation Q. And is the love received by all unto whom it is so tendred A. Nay for many reject the light and will not become subject to the reproofe of it and they that doe so they doe not receive the love which in that manifestation is tendred unto them Q. But is there any thing that lyes on mans part in order to his salvation A. Yes he is to obey the light and follow it and then the light will teach him to deny himselfe and to take up the daily Cross Q. And doth the light work in order to salvation if man obey it and follow it A. Yes for he that obeyes the light and followes it he doth not abide in darkness but comes to the light of life Q. Hath man power in himselfe to turn to the light and to obey it and follow it A. Nay of himselfe he can doe nothing that is good nor turn from any thing that is evil but if he stand still when the light reproves him he there answers it in obedience as not joyning with that which the light reproves him for and so by giving diligence to the reproofe and standing still when reproofe comes he is there in obedience to it and then the love which is tendred in that manifestation it casts it selfe about him and with its strength it separates him from the sin and begets a dislike in him unto it so that he begins to abhor the appearance of it and then in the strength of the love he turns from the power of Satan unto the power of God where the light becomes his leader and teacher in the way of peace so that Salvation is in the light alone and not by any thing which is done by man of himselfe yet the light requires man to yeild himselfe unto it and yeilding himselfe unto it he answers the requirings of it in obedience and so becomes a servant to the light in all things Q. What doth the light work when man so yeilds himselfe to serve it A. It then rises in power and is felt to be powerfull to the pulling down the strong hold of sin and unthroaning the powers of darkness whereby the uncleane corrupted nature comes to be crucified and fleshly lusts condemned and so the burdens weights and loads are removed under which man hath travelled and groaned Q. But is the light sufficient to save man from all sin and to present him holy and blameless before God A. Yes it is so and they that love it knowes it to be so for the light is Christ and all power in heaven and earth is given unto him and there is nothing impossible with him nor too hard for him if man doe not reject him and rebell against him Q. And doth the power in its rising work contrary to mans own will wisdome and reason A. Yes for the power is the Cross unto the will wisdome and reason of man and in all things worketh as a cross unto that nature and stops it and chaines it and yoaks it down when it would be at liberty Q. And is that work of the power unto Salvation A. Yes if it be obeyed that the opposer doe not quench it it puts a difference between the precious and the vile and so rises as a hammer and knocks down the vile and takes hold on it as a fire and burnes it up and so man comes into the furnace where God is a consuming fire Q. But can any abide the day of his comming in such a dispensation A. Yes some there be that doe abide it who loves not their lives unto death but trusts in the Lord though he kills them Q. And is Salvation wrought through such a dispensation of Christ A. Yes for he is terrible whilest the wicked stand in his sight and reveales himselfe in flaming fire to execute vengeance upon the rebellious nature for his appearance unto Salvation is in judgment against all and upon all that would not that he should reigne Q. And doth Christ worke this worke in man A. Yes for sin is within man and there must Christ work to purge his conscience if ever he be made clean Q. But doe none know Christ to be Salvation but such as feeles his work within them A. No for it is to be understood that whilest man remaines in the fall he is under the power of darkness and therefore the power of Christ must work within him to subdue the power of darkness that ruleth over him and to save him from the temptations that the darkness entangles him in and so man is ever to stand in the pure fear of God and to waite for the appearance of his power to deliver him out of the snares in which he lyes entangled in the darkness and then he will feele the work of the power in him to cast out the strong man which hath kept the house and the power will keep man in the awe that he dare not sin for who have felt the judgment of the Lord for sin they stand in the pure fear least at any time their feet should slip into sin and this is true love to God when sin is denyed with which his Spirit is greived Q. And doth the power work effectually to Salvation as man yeilds himselfe unto it and denyes that which it doth reprove him for A. Yes it works effectually unto Salvation by destroying death and him that hath the power of it which is the Devil and so by the work of the power the old man is crucified the old works words and thoughts they all dye and sin is condemned in the flesh and the flesh is brought into subjection and silence through death and this man must know wrought in him by the power of God if ever he come to eternal life for no unclean thing that must enter into the Kingdome of God and therefore it must be denyed and put off before the Kingdome can be obtained Q. But must man pass through death and rise again whilest he is in the body A. Yes For except he be regenerated and born again he cannot enter into the kingdome of God and therefore he must dye to the first Adams flesh and be quickened and raised again in the second Adams spirit and so in the resurrection and life enter the Kingdome as a little child Q. And doth the work of the power bring death upon the first Adam through out A. Yes for no part or propertie of the first Adam that must live before God and as the second Adam rises in power
action before life thereby to attain life and so we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus unto good works which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them and this is ordained of God to be the fruit of our life and faith and in these good works we walk to his glory and depends upon him alone for the renewing of our strength to continue in them unto the end Q. But how do you manifest your good works which you say are ordained of God for you to walk in A. By our faith we manifest them and the manifestation doth clearly demonstrate the nature and root to be of God in which they are created and the nature and root in which they are created being of God they must needs be good and so they are good works as being of God and of God ordained that we should walk in them and that of God in every conscience bears witness to the same so that we know all our works to be wrought by him in us and for us and we do walk in them who are born of him and he alone hath the glory though the natural man perceiveth not from whence they are nor whither they goe Q. And is it your faith and love towards God that makes you such a willing people to serve God and to do his will A. Yes it is so for the day of his power hath overcome us and therein he hath begotten us unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead and in him our faith and love is encreased and strengthened to run without weariness for in his life we have motion and action whereby we are willingly disposed to serve him and to do his will Q. But how do you know all these things you act and do are the commands of God and according to his will A. By the word of his power in us through which we are made sensible of all his commands unto us for as we are born of him so we know his voice and by his word we are instructed in his commands and thereby put upon motion to act and do them and in our duty he gives us his peace by which we know that all those things which we act and do are his commands unto us and according to his will Q. But are you so constrained through your faith and love towards God as to answer him in all things that he commands you A. Yes for if we should say we love him and do not keep his commands we should be lyars but we do so love him and our faith is so stedfast in him as that we are thereby constrained to keep his commands in all things for it is natural unto his own birth to delight to do his will and to do whatsoever he commandeth and hereby we know that his love is perfected in us and our faith and love is single unto him and as his good will is manifested unto ns even so is our hearts disposed in good will towards all men Q. What good will have you to such as you judge and condemn because they are not like-minded with you A. Much every way for that which we judge and condemn in any is only that spirit which wrongs them by which our good will is manifested unto that which suffers wrong and this is our judgment according to truth and knowing that the judgment of the Lord is according to truth and having felt it so in our selves through the condemnation of sin in the flesh we judg sin in the flesh in whomsoever it reigns that sin in the flesh may be condemned and they in the spirit may be justified and herein we manifest the universal love of God to be shed abroad in our hearts in which our good will extendeth unto all men Q. And is that the love with which you love your enemies A. Yes for as God had pity upon us in the day of our alienation from him and followed us with many tender visitations and also many righteous judgments even so we know that he would not have a sinner to perish and in this love we labour for the good of all people and it is the greatest manifestation of love to an enemy when his destruction is not sought but rather a condescending to recover him out of the state of his enmity into a state of reconciliation and peace and we know that there is none that are enemies unto us but they are enemies unto God and crucifies his life in themselves and therefore our love is in pity towards them though they be enemies unto us knowing that they cannot have peace with God whilst in that state they remain Q. And are you so disposed towards your enemies as that you cannot seek rerevenge when they do you wrong A. Yes that is the disposition of our nature not to seek revenge though we do suffer wrong for the revenging nature is in the fall in which people are enemies unto God and one to another but it is not so with us whom God hath redeemed for though we may have many enemies yet we are not enemies unto any though in the power of God by which we are redeemed we do bear testimony against the evil and the sin and that spirit in us doth not seek after revenge but in all long-suffering and patience we bear the enmity of our enemies and waits to see their conversion out of the enmity whereby our good will is manifested in love to their souls Q. But are you not the cause of the sufferings that comes upon you as being contrary minded unto all other people and so are enemies to your selves A. Nay the cause of our sufferings are not from our selves but from that spirit which cannot bear our testimony which God hath given us which testimony being contrary unto the actings and workings of the spirit of darkness it provokes the minds of such in whom it ruleth to enmity against us and that is the ground why sufferings comes upon us and we are clear for being enemies unto our selves in it as having our faith and love towards God in those things for which we suffer Q. But why can you not be conformable unto those things which other people observe and practice outwardly and yet keep your Faith and love towards God inwardly and so have your Faith to your selves A. Because we dare not deny or own that outwardly which God doth manifest to us inwardly either to be truth or out of the truth for so we should deny our Faith and love towards him every way and it is not possible that any should keep Faith and love to God inwardly and conforme to any practice outwardly which is contrary to their inward principle for as the body without the Spirit is dead so Faith without works is dead also and they that have Faith to themselves in the power of God they also have Faith in him to serve him in works of truth and righteousness and so we shew
our Faith by our works for the Spirit of Faith being lived in as the inward principle the body is disposed by its motions and it doth never dispose the body to conform unto any outward thing which is contrary to its own nature so that the body is not to act the spirit but the spirit is to act and govern the body and where it is so both the inward and the outward agrees in one and there is faith inwardly and good works outwardly and we have a good evidence of the spirit in our selves that so it is with us whereby we are preserved upon our foundation inwardly and for joyning with any practice that is contrary to it outwardly and here our bodyes are alive unto God in his spirit and are acted and ordered by the power of it according to his will and vvhere it is not so there is not the sence of the spirit in the body and so a dead body vvhich others may move and order in their own vvay Q. Well but demonstrate in some particulars your Non-conformity as first why you cannot conform to the Discipline of the Church of England as it is now established outwardly A. Because vve do not find that it is established upon our foundation and principle inwardly and therefore vve cannot have faith in it nor love towards it and if vve should conform to it outvvardly contrary to the inward principle of our faith vve should commit sin for that which is not of faith is sin and if vve should do so vve should commit a great evil and our faith and love unto God vvould be lost and therefore it is vvhy vve cannot conform to the vvay and Worship now observed according to that Discipline or order because the spirit of God by which our bodyes are alive to God doth not so order and dispose us and vve dare not order our bodies in our own choice for if we could do so and not sin against God vve should rather chuse to conform then suffer but vve know that if vve should do so vve could not keep our consciences void of offence towards God though we might in so doing please many men but should come under his rebuke and correction for transgression and so in our single faith and love towards God we stand in the will of God and dare not move to observe any thing outwardly but as the motion of his power and life disposes us inwardly in which vve have true peace and satisfaction in our greatest tribulations and hereby it may be understood why vve cannot conform in this particular Q. And why is it that you cannot swear at all A. Because it is contrary to our inward principle and our principle being the truth it self we know that as we are acted and disposed by its motion that all our words promises and engagements are sure and stedfast for they are firmly established in our principle and therefore we dare not swear at all knowing our yea is yea and our nay is nay in a sure and stedfast principle that changes not and our faith and love towards God is in our principle and if we should swear at all we should deny our principle which is Christ the truth vvho commands us not swear at all and our faith standing in him and our love being towards him we are constrained to keep his command because we know that all his commands are according to truth and we believe that if we should swear at all vve should go into transgression and fall under condemnation and then we should loose the answer of a good Conscience and peace with God which is of more value unto us then the highest favours in the world Q. But doth your faith and love which you say is towards God lead you wholly into opposition to the ordinances of men who are to rule and govern Nations and Kingdoms A. Nay our faith and love towards God makes us to be subject to the Ordinances of men for the Lords sake and we do not despise Government outwardly but do believe that actual subjection ought to be given in all things that pertain to the preservation and well-being of such as are under the power of it and for this cause pay we Tribute and Custome and that not only for fear but for Conscience sake whereby our actual Subjection is manifested and our Consciences kept void of offence towards God and men for as we know that our inward principle is just and righteous in it self so vve believe that every power in outward Government that rules in Justice and Righteousnesse between man and man is to be owned and submitted unto and not in any wise to be resisted or denyed and this is something of our faith concerning this particular vvhereby it may appear that vve are not vvholly in opposition to the Ordinances of men as they act in Justice and Righteousness for the well-being one of another which is the main end of all outward Government Q. But do you not believe that you ought in all things to be actually subject according to the institutions of Laws which are in being A. Nay that is not our Faith for vvhere any Law concerns our Consciences and that contrary to our inward principle in that case vve dare not be actually subject for as our principle is the greatest in power and so it is most worthy of our subjection and our faith and love constrains us so to do and vvhere any outward Law lyes against our inward principle as to things pertaining to our Consciences vve in that case are passive and patiently suffers under it and so vve believe and are sure that the exercise of our Consciences in matters of Worship and Religion is to stand single unto God alone and not to be restrained or limited by any Ordinance of men Q. Why can you not give respect and honour unto persons that are in power and Government according to the Customs which are used A. Because it is against our faith to respect persons according to customes for we have not the faith our Lord Jesus Christ in respect of persons and yet we give honour and respect to all men unto vvhom it is due but the Hat and Knee is a beggarly honour and not worthy to be either given or received for honour being far below the honour that comes from above and we being born of the Royal seed of God we cannot give honour to any thing below it and all the customs that are in being and given and received for honour amongst men they are all below the Royall seed and the birth born of the seed can neither give nor receive such honor and this is our faith in this particular That we are to honour God and all men in the Lord but Customs and Observations with the Hat and Knee we believe and are sure that God doth not require us to give respect or honour unto any person after that manner and by our faith we live in our principle
Gods mercies and so come to receive an answer of their Prayers For when the heart of man doth not encline to the Spirit of God it is in rebellion against him and God doth not shew mercy to the rebellious and so people pass over their time in words but want the life which should do them good and when they come to finish their dayes their hearts are as far off from Gods Law as the first day when they began to pray That he would encline their hearts to keep it and they have no assurance that God will shew them mercy though they have been praying in words all their life-time And likewise in answer to the Lettany where they pray after this manner Good Lord deliver us And We beseech thee to hear us good Lord. And this is the same in their latter dayes as in the beginning and it is manifest that they are not delivered from those things as in words they pray to be delivered from nor are not heard in those things which they beseech the Lord to hear them in and so they spend their dayes in observing a customary formality and never come to any assurance that they are delivered or that their requests are heard and answered And again in that which they call the Creed they confess they believe in God now they that believe in God their hearts are enclined to keep his Law and he shews them mercy and hears them and delivers them for they that believe in God they do his will and if any man do his will him he heareth And then again they confess That they are miserable sinners and do those things they ought not to do And if so then not Believers for they that believe in Christ are not miserable sinners neither do those things they ought not to do but by believing in Christ they are saved and he takes away their sin that makes them miserable and sets them free from their misery and they do those things that are well-pleasing in his sight for they that truly believe in Christ they do not only confess their sins but also forsake them and so find mercy with the Lord and they are not alwayes complaining that they do those things they ought not to do but know his Will and do it and are blessed in their deed And again in that which they call the Lords Prayer they generally say Our Father Now the Children of God are not miserable sinners nor do not those things they ought not to do for whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin And Whosoever sinneth hath not seen him neither known him And there are not any that believe in God or can call God Father in truth but those that are born of him for those that are born of flesh and of blood and of the will of man they do not believe in God neither can truly call God Father for that is the nature in vvhich sin is committed vvhich makes people miserable and that is the nature in which they do those things they ought not to do and that is the nature in which there is no saving health and there is not any prayer accepted of God which in that nature is performed for none in the flesh can please God and whatsoever is offered unto him in that nature he doth not regard it for it is the nature from which all wickedness proceedeth and the prayers of the wicked are an abomination unto God And though there may be many which may deny the common vvay of Prayer as it is used in the common Worship and set up some other way of Prayer as more excellent yet whilst the Flesh and Blood and Will of man conceives it and performs it there is no difference in the ground between that vvhich they deny and that which they set up and practise neither doth God regard it any more than that which they deny And though such Prayers may not appear so formal as those that are commonly used in the common Worship yet they are conceived in the very same womb and do not at all differ in the ground for as the Wisdom of the flesh hath composed so many set-prayers in words and hath prescribed a way to observe and practise the same and that none is either to add or diminish as to vvhat is so composed even so the same Wisdom may deny that prescribed way as being formal and may invent something instead of it in a higher mistery of iniquity and though they may not speak in such formal composed words yet in the same Wisdome their words are formal not at all differing in the ground or conception but only in the expression and observation and in their practise it is as formal as that which they deny for they have a constant observation by way of Prayer in what they practise which in it self is as formal as the set-prayers commonly used in the common Worship for they can set their own time both to begin and to make an end and when they will they can utter vvords and vvhen they will they can be silent and they have their own conceptions at command and can either perform or not perform in their own time and this is the uncleane part vvhich offers unto God which he doth not accept neither is any Prayer regarded or accepted of God but the Prayer which is offered to him by his own birth So that these few things being seriously considered it is manifest that the way of Prayer as it is now commonly used observed and practised in the common Worship is not true prayr but a bare formality and not onely so but also contradictory so is not performed with a right understanding and it is as manifest that all other wayes of praying which are conceived and performed in the wisdom of the flesh is not true Prayer neither doth God regard it more then the other because it is performed in the same nature and differs in nothing but in the manner and however they may differ in the practice yet they meet in the ground and are offered up in the unclean part and so are not performed with an understanding as Prayer in the Spirit of God is Now the Spirit of Life which is manifest from God in every mans conscience doth so enlighten him as to make him sensible that he is a sinner and in himself is miserable and eternally liable to the Wrath of God without the Lord appear for him and work his deliverance and as man takes heed to that Spirit which doth so enlighten him and makes manifest his condition to him then the Spirit begins to quicken and stir up something in him that desires after God and breathes after God and the sighs and groans begin to arise in a true sence of misery and the breathings go forth in the earnest of the Spirit unto God and the cry arises for help and deliverance and though that which is quickened by the Spirit to breath in the Spirit be but