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A19649	An aunswer to sixe reasons, that Thomas Pownde, Gentleman, and prisoner in the Marshalsey. at the commaundement of her Maiesties Commissioners, for causes Ecclesisasticall: required to be aunswered Because these reasons doo moue him to think, that controuersies and doubts in religion, may not be iudged by the Scriptures, but that the Scriptures must be iudged by the Catholique Church. ... Written by Robert Crovvley.	Crowley, Robert, 1518?-1588.; Pounde, Thomas, 1539-1616.; Tripp, Henry, d. 1612.	1581 (1581)	STC 6075; ESTC S109107	34,598	58

Diuell him selfe dyd alleadge scripture against our sauiour Christe and dyd applie it as rightlie as Bonifacius the eight did when after he had one day shewed him self in his Pontificalibus that is his Popely attyre and the next day in the robes of an Emperour he sayd thus Ecce duo gladij hic Beholde heere are two swordes Another of your Popes setting his foote vppon the necke of Fredericus the Emperour sayd Super Aspidem Basiliscum ambulabis conculcabis Leonem Draconem Upon the Aspe and Basiliske shalt thou walke and vpon the Lyon and Dragon shalt thou treade And surely as often as these wresters of the Scriptures doo speake vnto vs the Diuell dooth as Vincentius sayth speake by theyr mouthes c. But héere I leaue your Vincentius and you together tyll at some more leysure I may reade him ouer I can not thinke that hée dooth handle that place of Mathewe so grosely as you would make vs beléeue that he dooth But though he doo the matter is not great For there is none that hath any sence or féeling in the vnderstanding of the Scriptures but the same may easily sée that when our sauiour Christe sayde Non tentabis Dominū Deum tuum Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God He had a farre other meaning then that which you woulde make vs beléeue that Vincentius dooth gather of these wordes Yea Athens I dyd first write this aunswer I haue read ouer Vincentius and haue founde that you doo belye him But as one mistrusting the authoritie of your Vincentius you clap in the necke of it one sentence of S. Austine but you tell vs not where we shall finde it But if those wordes be Austines as it may be that they are they wyll and doo serue much better against you and your sort then they can against vs. And thus much to your fift Reason which I haue called Fraudulent for the cause afore mencioned ¶ The ●ixt Reason YOur sixt and last Reason most weyghtie of all is this Because if we wyll refuse the authoritie of the Churches absolute iudgement vppon the scriptures true sence We shall séeme plainely to deny the holy Ghost to be the spirite of trueth c. This Reason I haue called Fanaticall For that in making so great an accoumpt of this Reason you séeme not to be in your right wittes What bedlem would abuse the wordes written in the fowretéene of Iohn as you doo to prooue that because our Sauiour Christe dyd praye for and obtayne and dyd giue the holy Ghost the spirite of trueth to his holy Apostles and dyd promise that the same should remayne with them for euer and instruct them in all trueth therfore the same holy Ghost must néedes be and remayne styll in that Church which agréeeth with the Church of the Apostles onely in name and is no more lyke the Apostles Church in doctrine and manners then blacke is lyke to whyte and God is lyke the Diuell The Wise man sayth that Wisedome wyll not enter into a malicious soule neyther wyll she dwell in a body that is subiect to sinnes For the holy spirite of Wisedome flyeth from deceite c. And shall we thinke that the holy Spirite of trueth hath bene and wyll be styll amongst such a rabble of Popes Cardinalles and other Catholiques as your owne Histories make mencion of that haue besides theyr beastly lyfe made decrées directlie contrarie to Gods commaundements Yea shall we thinke that the Spirite of Christe dwelleth amongst those Catholiques that at this day doo in the twentie and fiue Session of the Councell of Trent pronounce all such accurssed as doo shewe them selues eyther by doctrine or otherwise to mislyke with the hauing of Images in Churches seeing the same is dyrectly contrarie to the second commaundement of God Shall we thinke that the holy spirite of God dyd guide those your Catholique Fathers when they dyd in the same Session blanche the counterfeyting of Gods Maiestie by an Image And thinke you that Esay the Prophet if he were now lyuing would allowe your applying of his wordes to such Catholiques and to theyr doinges séeing the same Prophete dooth so earnestly speake against the making of Images scorning bothe them and theyr makers and plainly affyrming that they be good for nothing The Scribes the Pharisies the high Priestes and Doctors of the lawe might as well haue mainteyned theyr corrupt Doctrine and Traditions against Christ and his Apostles euen by those words of Esay that you applie for your purpose as you may now by the same mayntaine all the corrupt Doctrines and Traditions of your Catholiques For they dyd then perswade them selues as you doo now that the promise was made to them could not but be perfourmed to them And that therfore Christe and his fauters were Scismatiks and méete to be excommunicated as by them they were in déede and as by you we be now But to our great and vnspeakable comfort our sauiour Christe hath foretolde vs of this saying These wordes haue I spoken vnto you that you should not be offended They wyll excommunicate you and the time will come wherin whosoeuer shall hyll you will think that he dooth God good seruice And that promise also that you would s●me to reioyce so much in●ia in déede as cōfortable to vs as you would haue men thinke that it is to you We knowe that the Spirite of trueth departeth not from Christe in his members the Church the true and vnfeyned Catholique Church Neyther doo the wordes that the heauenly Father put into the mouth of Christ his onely begotten Sonne depart out of his mouth the true Catholique Church and yet dare not we make that Church Iudge of that worde For they were not put into her mouth to that ende that shée should iudge them but that shée should in all her doinges be iudged tryed and directed by them As sottishe as you say our opinion is we are so farre from holding that euerie priuate man may haue leaue to be his owne Iudge in vnderstanding the Scripture that we doo not graunt it to the best learned but doo leaue it to him that béeing with humilitie of minde sought in the Scriptures wyll be found there yea euen by Crafts men such as was Peter and his fellow fisher men For he respecteth not mens persons nor Occupations And vnto them that so séeke him there whether they be many or fewe he wyll open the sence of vnderstading that they may vnderstand as much as he knoweth to be méete for them to vnderstand And such as haue that humble spirit wyll not search for nor shewe them selues destrous to knowe any more Well now you conclude vpon that which you say we must néedes graunt that is that the Church is our mother as Scripture sayth Well I am glad that you are now become a Scripture man But I pray you where is that Scripture written that sayth that your Catholique Church

necessary to be knowne to saluation euen by plaine scriptures And the rest I hope I shall be able to prooue in such sort as the Fathers haue prooued them against such as haue at any tyme denied them And first I must prooue that in the Godhead there be thrée distinct persons and but one substaunce This and the second that is that in Christe there be two distinct Natures and but one person I thinke I shall easily prooue The Prophet Dauid hath written thus Psal 110. The Lord hath sayde to my Lord syt thou at my right hande tyll I make thine enimies thy foote stoole The Lord shall send out of Sion the Scepter of thy power beare thou rule in the myddes amongst his enimies Thus much in the two first verses And in the fift verse he sayth thus The Lord at thy right hand hath wounded euen Kinges in the day of his wrath That the Prophet Dauid dyd in these verses of this Psalme speake of the diuine Maiestie and of the second person Christ it is manifested by that which S. Mathew writeth in his twenty and two Chapt. Vos quid dicitis de Christo cuius filius est What doo you say of Christe whose sonne is he c. The Lord. That is God the Father Sayde to my Lord. That is to God the Sonne c. Héere haue we two distincted persons the Father and the Sonne And in the seconde verse he sayth The Lorde shall send out of Sion the Scepter of thy power which is the worde of the Gospell And this Scepter was sent out of Sion by the holy Ghoste in the feast of Pentecoste when he rested vppon the Apostles in the shape of 〈…〉 rie tongues deuided So that héere we haue the thyrde person and so consequently thrée distinct persons The Father sayth to the sonne sit thou at my right hand c. And the holy Ghost sendeth the word which is the scepter of the power of the Sonne out of Sion And in the fift verse he sayth The Lorde at thy right hand shall wounde euen Kinges in the day of his wrath Thus speaketh the diuine Maiestie God the Father God the Sonne God the holy Ghoste one diuine Maiestie to the Church of Christe hée re milytaunt vppon earth So haue we the vnitie of the thrée distinct persons in the deitie And Christe him selfe expounding the first verse of this Psalme to be spoken of him selfe dooth a warrant vs that he béeing Dauids sonne after the flesh is neuerthelesse Dauids Lorde and therefore God And so bothe God and man and yet but one Christe For be sayth What say you of Christe Whose sonne is hée This might suffise to shewe that these two verities are not vnwritten as you do terme them But to satisfie you to the full looke what S. Mathew hath written in the last Chapter last words of his Gospell reporting the wordes of our Sauiour who sayth thus there All power bothe in heauen and earth is giuen vnto me Goe your way therfore and teach all Nations baptizing them in the name of the Father of the Sonne and of the holy Ghost teaching them to obserue all those thinges that I haue commaunded you And behold I am with you euerie day euen to the ende of the world Héere the man Christe receyueth from the diuine Maiestie all power bothe in heauen and in earth and by that power he giueth commission to his Apostles to goe and teache all Nations and to Baptize them in the name of the Father of the Sonne of the holy Ghost So that héere againe we haue thrée distinct personnes and their vnitie in giuing to Christe all power in heauen and in earth and the two natures in one person Christe in that he receyueth all power in heauen and in earth and giueth commission to his Apostles to teach and baptize If this will not satisfie you I refer you to that which S. Austine hath written in his booke De Trinit There shall you finde proofe vpon proofe that these verities are not vnwritten The thirde veritie that you say is vnwritten is that God the Father was neuer begotten It séemeth that you haue not read S. Peaules Epistle to the Ephesians for if you had you must néedes haue séene that this is no vnwritten veritie Saint Paule writeth thus Huius rei gratia flecto genua mea ad patrem Domini nostri Iesu Christi ex quo omnis paternitas in coelo in terra nominatur For this cause sayth S. Paule doo I bowe my knées to the Father of our Lorde Iesus Christe of whome all Fatherhoode bothe in heauen and in earth dooth take name I trow you will not now say that this veritie is vnwritten The fowrth veritie that you say is not written is that the holy Ghost procéedeth bothe from the Father and the Sonne as from one fountayne If you would reade that which S. Iohn hath written I thinke you would not say that this veritie is vnwritten Cum venerit paracletus quem ego mittam vobis a patre spiritū veritatis qui a patre procedit ille testimonium perhibebit de me c. When the Comforter shall come whome I wyll sende vnto you from the Father euen the spirit of trueth that procéedeth from the Father he shall testifie of me c. And in the twentie Chapter he sayth Haec cum dixisset insufflauit dixit eis Accipite spiritum sanctum When he had spoken these wordes he breathed vpon them and he sayde vnto them Receyue ye the holy Ghost c. If breath may be sayde to procéede from the person that breatheth then may we say that it is written that the holy Ghost procéedeth from Christe the sonne of God euen as it is written that he procéedeth from God the Father I wyll be bolde therefore without any more a doo to conclude that these fowre verities are not vnwritten but written in déede in the Canonicall Scriptures The fift vnwritten verity is the descending of Christ into hell this you must haue prooued by plaine wordes of Scripture the lacke whereof as you say hath caused many nowe a dayes to deny it flatly I am none of them that doo so deny it But that he descended in such manner as your Catholiques haue taught and as it hath bene set foorth in their Stage Playes and in their payntinges in glasse windowes else where I thinke would be as harde a thing for you to prooue any way as for vs to prooue by plaine wordes of Scripture that he dyd in déede descende into hell I thinke you wyll graunt that the spéeche vsed in the Créede concerning Christes descending into hell is figuratiue vsed by the figure Synecdoche wherein the whole is vnderstanded in the parte For you wyll not I thinke say that Christes body went into hell For that was buried and rested in the graue tyll the tyme that it was restored to lyfe againe Well Then it was his spirite

that descended into hell● and not his body and spirite bothe This being graūted as I think you wyll not deny to doo we shall easily prooue euen by plaine wordes of the Scripture that Christe descended into hell Saint Peter in the thirde Chapter of his first Epistle sayth thus Quia et Christus semel pro peccatis mortuus est iustus pro iniustis vt nos offeret Deo mortificatus quidem carne viuificatus autem spiritu In quo his qui in carcere erant spiritibus veniens praedicauit c. For euen Christe sayth Saint Peter dyd once dye for sinnes the iuste for the vniuste that he might offer vs vnto God mortified in the fleshe indéede but quickened in the spirite in which spirite comming to those spirites that were in prison he dyd preach vnto them Nowe I thinke you wyll say that I haue prooued by plaine words of Scripture that Christe descended into hell But howe great a matter were it If this might not be prooued by any playne Scripture séeing the Nicene Créede vsed in your Masse maketh no mencion of it And Damasus that was Bishop of Rome 360. yéeres alter Christes ascencion when Iulianus the Apostata was Emperour hath in his Créede no worde of it And yet he concludeth his Creede with these wordes Haec lege haec crede haec retine huic fidei animam tuam subiuga vitam consequeris premium a Christo That is Reade these wordes beléeue them holde them faste yoake thy soule to this Faith and thou shalt obtayne of Christe bothe life and reward I note this because I sée that you shoote at this marke To binde vs eyther to prooue all your vnwritten verities by Scripture or else for lacke of such proofe to beleeue as true whatsoeuer your Catholique Church shall allowe for trueth although the same be neuer so vnnecessarie to be prooued or receyued for trueth Your sixt vnwritten veritie is the custome of Baptizinge Infauntes For this I néede not to wryte much Our Sauiour Christe hath sayde Suffer little Chyldren to come to me and forbidde them not For to such dooth the kingdome of God belong And Saint Paule sayth That the Children of beléeuing Parents are holy Therefore they are not to be holden from Baptisme more then the Iewes children from Circumcision Your other thrée whyes are scarce worthy the aunswering Why should we kéepe the Sunday now at all and not the Saturday Why should we not abstaine now styll like Iewes from strangled meates as the Apostles decreed And why may not any Heretike deny all the thrée Créedes c. The first of these whyes shall be aunswered with an other why As why may not the Church of Christians being Lordes of the Sabaoth chuse for their Sabaoth one daye in seuen euen that daye the obseruing whereof they shall sée to serue best for theyr owne edification And why did the Apostles as it maye be gathered by that which Saint Iohn hath written in his Reuelation chuse the first daye of the wéeke to be theyr Sabaoth and not the laste And why doo you not remember that Saint Paule dooth number the Sabaoth amongst such indifferent things as are Meates and Drinckes Festiuall dayes and new Moones which were but shadowes of thinges to come c. And to your second why I say that the Apostles saw that it was necessarie for the tyme to forbydde those Christians that then lately had bene Heathen men to séede vpō strangled or blood And néeded not to abrogate it afterwarde when they were further instructed and knew how to vse the Christiā lybertie without offence A man might meruayle why any wise man would mooue such a why as this Your thirde last why may be fully aunswered with these wordes Because there is no thing in those thrée Créedes that may not easily be prooued by the Scriptures And thus are all your whyes aunswered But doo you not marke howe these bedlem Catholiques would shake the foundation of our Christian fayth by bynding vs to beléeue that Christes Catholique Church hath set foorth as infallibly true and to be beléeued vnder paine of dampnation three Créedes the Articles whereof they are not able to prooue by the Scriptures doo not these blinde guides thinke you leade vs a trym daunce towardes shameles error and ignorauuce And thus much to your fowrth Reason which for good cause I haue called Fantasticall Bothe for that it séemeth that you perswade your ●elwfe that you handle your selfe verie finely in all that you write therein and also for that you haue vttered nothing therein that may not well séeme to spring out of a fantasticall head The fift Reason YOur fift Reason I haue called Fradulent because you doo therein compare the lawes and Scriptures of God to the lawes of men made for ciuill pollicie and gouernment And the Iudges gouernors in ciuill pollicie to the Ecclesiastical ministers gouernours of the Church of Christ in matters of faith This is fraudulently to bring y ● holy Scriptures which of right are the toutchstone for all mennes iudgements to be tryed by to be vnder the iudgement of some one man as your Pope who challengeth authoritie aboue the generall Councels or of that number of men that shalbe gathered together in a generall Coūcell which doo challenge authoritie aboue the Pope But God that is Author of all perfection and dooth dispose euery thing in a swéet and decent order hath prouided much better for his Catholique Church héere millitaunt on earth then that it should be driuen to séeke for resolution of doubts at the bandes of such Iudges as may erre as your Pope and generall Councels haue and may doo The Father of lyghts the giuer of all good gyftes in whome there is no chaunge or shewe of variablenesse The Spirite of trueth that can neyther deceyue nor be deceyued is ready at hand with euery one that in humilitie of minde craueth wisedome and wyll not suffer any such lōg to be in doubt of any thing the knowledge whereof is necessarie to saluation If you sayth our sauiour which be naught doo know how to giue good gifts to your children How much more shall your heauenly Father giue the holy spirit to them that aske it of him Gods chyldren may be bolde in such cases as I haue spoken of to craue Gods spirite and assure themselues to receyue it at his handes But the proude and hauty minded shalbe as sure to finde God theyr enimie This Iudge is alwayes ready in the scriptures to open the vnderstādings of as many as doo resort thether with humilitie of minde séeking there to be resolued of theyr necessarie doubts That both your Popes generall Coūcels haue erred therfore may erre I wil by Gods help plainly proue First if it were possible to perswade you that to make a decrée directly contrarie to the expresse commaundement of God is an error then it should be an