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A00685 Ane answer to ane epistle written by Renat Benedict the Frenche doctor, profesor of Gods worde (as the translator of this epistle calleth him) to Iohn Knox, and the rest of his brethren ministers of the word of God: made by Dauid Feargussone minister of the same word at this present in Dumfermling. Fergusson, David, d. 1598.; Benoit, René, 1521-1608.; Winzet, Ninian, 1518-1592. 1563 (1563) STC 10819; ESTC S117552 36,974 88

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concerning the latter dayes are of vs carelesly passed ouer no God forbid for they be warninges betuix our●… eyes The Apostle Peter hath moste carefully warned vs of Sathans ●…yght and fury not forgetting also to istruct vs how to withstand him in these wordes Be sober and watche for your aduersarie the Deuil as a roring lyon walketh aboute feking whome he may beuore whome sayeth the Apostle ye shall resist being steadfast in Faith ye say that Sathan can not take Christes name from vs no certanely nor steare a haire of our heades forther then God doeth appoint him ●…e are not affrayed that that Serpent ●…al ather spoyle vs of thrist or of his na●…e for we know our selues to be Christs ●…epe to whom he hath not onely pmised ●…ernal lyfe but also that they shall neuer ●…rishe nor be plucked out of his hand by ●…y This certanetie of our Saluation ●…ocedeth not of our owne merites and ●…orthynes which God did foresie to be 〈◊〉 vs as ye blasphemous Papistes do ●…irme nor yet of the worthynes of the●… workes that follow after our externall ●…ocation no but the begining the mid●…est and the end of our Saluatiō cometh 〈◊〉 the mear mercy of our God alone in ●…hriste Iesus his Sonne to whome he ●…ly liberally gaue vs before all worl●…es as that he him self witnesseth in the ●…uangle of Iohn saying My Father ●…hich gaue them me is greater then all ●…nd none is able to take them out of my ●…athers hand I and my Father are one ●…pon these promises we rest and shall ●…od willing vnto the end nether feare we ●…s promises nor the fidelitie of them for ●…ppose we be fragel yet wil he not deny 〈◊〉 self but how cometh it to pas that ye perceaue not the craft of this Serpent your self whereof ye admonish others so earnestly For Sathan hath not one●…e spoyled you of christ him self giuen you a whyte tepertane God to play you with but also hath spoyled a great nomber of your masters men euen of the verie name of Christe For they think it to base a name to be called Christians wherewith enerie man is tearmed that is Baptised And therefore are som of them called Frasiscans so●…e Benedictinis some Don●…nicans Agustmians some Car●…elites and Cartusians some Heremites and Iacobins and some with one name and some with other whiche I irke to rehers Hereby plainely witnessing that they are ashamed of the name of Christ before men that he may deny them before his Father in any wise to apertean to him but to be of the nomber of those filthy locustes that S. Iohn remembreth in his Reuelation to haue come out of the bottomles pit Ye desyre vs to remember where and by what maner we haue Christe treuly then ye laboure to persuade vs that he is inclosed in the Sacrament knet to the Church vnto the which in deid he is cup led and maried by an euerlasting couenāt but not to your adulterus Church which ye wold make men beleue were the trew Church of God and so ye conclude that 〈◊〉 haue dispysed the Church sittuat vpō the montane and hath intrused a figure for Christes body in the Sacrament This I trust be your meaning and the ●…one of your argument whereunto we ●…er That the Lord Iesus being rea●… to leue the world and go to his Father seing his Disciples who at that present were carnall mynded sorie for ●…s bodylie departing made vnto them 〈◊〉 solempned promise that he wolde not ●…aue them confortles but if they wolde ●…pe his commandements and teache his people also to obserue all whatsoeuer 〈◊〉 had commanded them that then but ●…out he wold be present with them vnto ●…e end of the world not catnally nor ma●…cally inclosed in a bit of coniured bread 〈◊〉 which is now and then offered for seicke 〈◊〉 wine and Fearsy horses but by his ho●…e Spirit effectually working i their har 〈◊〉 that thing which his bodylie presence ●…uld not do whose departing from them ●…es vtterly necessarie and expedient as he him self doeth witnes in these wordes I tell you the treuth it is expedient for you that I go away for if I go not away the conforter which is the holy Ghoste will not come vnto you but if I depart I will send him vnto you Marck these wordes ye carnal Capernaites that wold pluck Christes fleshe from the right hand of the Father that if ye haue his flesh yet still with you ye lack his Spirit for he affirmeth in plaine wordes that the Spirit will not come except he depart and be absent in bodie Now chuse yow whither ye will want his bodie or his Spirit or rather whither think ye it better to imagine that ye haue his bodie for otherwise ye haue it nor and so for your fals imagi nation lack his Spirit or to grant that thing to be absent which is absent in deid and can not come til the latter day to the end ye may be participant of that holie Spirit that God poureth in the hartes of his chosen euē here in this lyfe whereby we cry Abba Father But the questiō is soue answered on your part I am assured ye had rather play you with your myrrie conceats contenting your selues with that presence of Christe that you think ye haue nor to haue his Spirit except that ye might win money thereby as Symon Magus your predicessoure wold haue done For ye haue win more by the Magicall and merualous lying myrackle of transubstantiation whereby ye wold make men beleue that a peice of bread not worth a quarter of a farthing were changed in your masses to the body of Christ God and man the same lenth brede that he hang on the crose by this iugling I say ye haue win more then euer ye did by his Spirit But to the purpose we conclude that Christ is here present with his Church alwayes according to his promise by his holy Ghoste whiche who so hath not aperteined not to Christ with what giftes soeuer he be indued besyde ye make our selues iudges whither that we haue lighlyed the treu Church or not sittuat vpon the montane if ye mean hereby the Church of Rome as I dout not but ye do we deny simplie that it is the trew Church but rather that spirituall Babylone whereout of the Lord hath commanded his people to come that they ●…e not partaker of her plagues whither ye meane by this montane that great hil of ambitiō that Sathan caryed Christ to when that he promised him the whole Kingdomes of the earth if he wold worship hi which Christ refused your Pope hath receaued or if ye meane hereby the hilles that are sittuat about Rome which S. Iohn sayeth are 7. in nomber which also Baptista Mantuanus affirmeth for he calleth your Rome Se●…ollem vrbem I can not well tell
An other hill or hilles whereon your harlot sitteth I know none and thoght your meaning be not hid from me concerning this mater yet for the vanitie of it I leaue it to be interpreted by your self Ye affirme that we intruse an onely figure for the treuth of Christes body in the Sacrament They must haue leaue to lie that can not speak the treuth who euer hard any of vs ather say priuatlie or s●…ak openly in our preachings that the Sacramēt is but a bare figure of Christes body I am assured there is no man able to proue it But rather this is oure doctrine of that moste sacrete and holie Sacrament that as we agree not with you Papistes that wold make men beleue that the bread were changed in Christes carnall and manly fleshe by transubstantiation which fleshe the heauē must hold vnto the time that all thinges be restored which God hath spokē by the mouthes of his holy Prophetes since the worlde begouth as witnesseth S. Peter So do we not agree with them that iudgeth the Sa cramentall bread and wine to be but bare signes or figures onely constantlie affirming and vndoutedly beleuing that als verilie as our teith eateth the bread and our mouthes drinketh the wine whereby our bodyes as sayeth Dauid is strēthened and our hartes made glade so verilie are we partakers of Christes body by Faith whereby we are nourished to lyfe euerlastinge and this partaking requireth nether transubstantiation inpanation nor carnall presente but requireth the eleuatiō of our Spirites by faith to heauen there to be partakers of Christ not with carnal teith but with faith affectual This maner of partakig were the people taught in the primatiue Church as witnesseth this sentence Sursum cord ▪ which wes vsed at the ministration of the Lordes Supper whereby the people wee moued to lift vp their hartes aboue all earthly and sensyble thinges whose answer wes habemus ad Dominum we haue them lifted vp to the Lord which wordes moste shamefullie were abused in your mischiuous masse to your shame and cōfusion And that Christes body is a trew natu rall body in deid lyke vnto oures in all thinges sinne except no fantasy which may be inclosed in a peice of bread and so in 10. thousand places at ones and that the Sacramentall bread is not changed in Christes fleshe and blood as the Papist dreameth not onely the whole Scrip ture but all godly and faithfull writers do testifie And first S. Augustyne whose moste plaine and euident sentences for the prufe of this purpose if I should infer this lytie work should grow to a greater volome then ather I am mynded now to write or yet tyme will permit being otherwaves occupyed principally in the fe ding of that flock wherof the holy Ghoste hath made me ouersear Sum yet I will produce to giue the readers a teast of the r●…st In his cōmentary vpō the Psalmes he hath these wordes Non hoc corpu●… est t●… 〈◊〉 quod videtis et bibituri illum Sanguinem quem fusuri sunt qui me crucifigent Sed Sacramentum ●…liquod commendo vobis quod Spiritualiter intellectum viuific●… bit vos that is ye shal not eat this body which ye se nor drink that blood that they shall shed which shall Crucifie me but I commend vnto you a certane Sacrament or mysterie which being spiritually vnderstāded shal quickē you And in an other place Corpus Christi in quo resurre●…it in vno loco esse oportet veritas autem ●…us vbique diffusa est That is the body of Christ wherein he arose muste be on forse in one place but his veritie is spred abrode euerie where His tractat vpon Iohn is full of suche sentēces and many other of his workes also as his Epistle to Dardanꝰ his boke of Christiane doctrine the notable worke of the Citie of God al whiche I omit for lenth And because that the latine sentences occupyeth roume and also that euerie man vnderstandeth them not let it be sufficient to recite them in Inglish the treuth of the Allegatiōs translating of them who so doutes of let him examine the places alledged Tertuliane writing against Martione hath these wordes Christ taking bread distributing it to his Disciples made it his bodie saying This is my body that is to say the figure of my body but this bread could not haue bene a figure of it except Christ hath had a trew body for a vaine or fātastical thing cā take no figure Ambrose vpon the first Epistle of Paule to the Corinthians and 11. chapiter hath these wordes vpon this sentence Shew the Lordes death Because sayeth he that we were deliuered by the death of the Lord we in eating and drinking of this thing he meaneth the Sacrament do signifie the fleshe and blood whiche were offered for vs. c. Origene in his 7. homilie vpon Leuiticus hath these wordes not onely is there a letter that killeth in the old Testa ment to be found but also in the new Testament a letter which killeth him that doeth not vnderstand the thinges spiritu ally for if thou do follow after the letter this that is spoken Except ye eat my fleshe and drink my blood this letter killeth therefor it is spiritually to be vnderstand S. Iohn Chrisostome in one of his homilies vpon the 26 of Mathew hath these wordes He also drank of it lest whē they hard his wordes they shuld say why do we then drink blood and eat fleshe And so should be troubled for whē he spak before of those thinges they were offended with his wordes and that the same should not now also come to pas he him self drank first of it that they also without grudging or trubil might cōmu nicat of the mysteries These same wordes in affect shortlyer sumwhat collected hath Thomas Aquino in his book called cathena aurea vpon the four Euangelists where also he alledges the same Chrisostome vpon the same place S. Hierome ī his commentary vpon mathew the. 26. chapiter hath these wordes After the mystical Easter Lambe wes fulfilled and he had eaten the Lambis fleshe with his Apostles he passeth through vnto the Sa crament of the trew Easter Lambe that when Melchisedec the priest of the heigh God in prefiguration of him broght forth bread and wine he might also represent the treuth of his body Althogh that Hierome haue not so clerly as the mater required mad the conference betuix Christ and Melchisedec yet hath he treuly iudged in this place of the Sacramēt if I shuld rehears all suche sentences as maketh for this purpose out of the ancient Doctors writinges as I haue said before this small treatie wold growe to a great volome that I be not to tedious therefore let these inferred serue at this present rea die hereafter to collect mo if these endes not the stryfe Ye say that they which haue