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A35057 The judgment of M. Cartwright and M. Baxter concerning separation and the ceremonies Cartwright, Thomas, 1634-1689.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1673 (1673) Wing C701; ESTC R21747 13,713 32

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THE JUDGMENT OF M. CARTWRIGHT AND M. BAXTER Concerning SEPARATION And the Ceremonies LONDON Printed in the Year 1673. TO THE READER UPon this following Letter of T. C. there will need no other observation than what Archbishop Bancroft long since made in these words But it most of all pleaseth me to see how Master Cartwright draweth homeward For as the Anabaptists by their madness kept Master Calvin within some good compass and as Master Beza hath been compelled in some sort to retire himself from his former eagerness so assuredly the phrenetical giddiness of these our new unbrideled Schismaticks who for pretended purity are many degrees beyond all the Savoyan Disciplinarians hath wrought a miracle to my understanding upon M. Cartwright For hear him how for fear of falling into flat Donatism he was fain to plead against one that had been his Scholar in the behalf of the Church of England so bitterly before by himself impugned The ordinary assemblies saith he of those which profess the Gospel in England are the Churches of Christ which he proveth in this sort Those Assemblies which have Christ for there head and the same also for their foundation are Gods Churches Such are the assemblies of England Therefore c. Again They that have performed unto them the special Covenant which the Lord hath made with his Churches of pouring his spirit upon them and putting his word into their mouths are the Churches of God But such are the assemblies in England Therefore c. Hereunto may be added saith he further the judgment of all the Churches of Christ in Europe all which give the right hand of Society in the house of God unto the assemblies which are in England Again to prove that the Church of England is the Church of God notwithstanding it want the pretended Discipline he useth this distinction that at it is in mans body so is it in this matter there are certain-parts essential and such as without the which a man cannot stand and some serving either to his comelyness or to his continuance And of this latter sort he maketh the Discipline And lastly he write thus To say that the Church of England is not the Church of God because it hath not received this Discipline methinks is all one with this as if a man would say It is no City because it hath no wall or that it is no Vineyard because it hath neither hedge nor ditch Thus far Master Cartwright In which his manner of speech you find a very great alteration from his anoient stile And as concerning the necessity whereof I intreat the wind you see is turned There is no more necessity in England of the Geneva platform than that every City in this Realm should be walled about And besides the pretended Discipline is become not to be any longer of the essence of the Church but as appertaining to the comelyness of it And a little after And this I will add unto it that if Master Cartwright would but confer with some that haves kill in fortification to know of him whether an old thick wall of lime and stone made many hundred years since or a new slight wall slubbered over and wrought with untempered mortar some few years ago whether I say of these two walls are of better defense for any City I should be in good hope that he would in short time leave the Disciplinary walls of Geneva and content himself with the ancient fortifications of the Church of England and the rather because he seeth what a giddy and itching humour his novelties have bred in the unstayed sort of many fantastical people Now to what M. Cartwright hath said in general to shew that there is no such necessity of Separation from the Church of England as some of his followers now pretend may be added the Judgment of a later Writer concerning those particulars which are so much scrupled by them who under pretense of greater purity will needs cast out all decency and good order from the House of God in a Book intituled Five Disputations of Church Government and Worship Printed at London 1659. A LETTER of T. C. TO RICHARD HARRISON CONCERNING SEPARATION Grace and Peace c. FOR so much as I left you the choice for the first conference whether you would have it in writing or by speech of mouth I attended some daies for Answer of that matter which because it was not returned I esteemed that you held you still to the request of your Letters which was to receive something from me by writing For Answer therefore So it is that your Letters affected me diversly for where your first page had raised me up unto some hope of re-uniting your self with the rest of your company unto us from whom you have thought good to sunder your selves the second page which layeth forth the condition of our peace did cast me and as were beat me from it again Howbeit the mercy of God upholding me in some good hope of profiting you or receiving profit from you I thought to cut out this time of my weightiest and most necessary business wherein I might give that contentment which the Lord hath enabled mine hand unto Unto you not unwilling to come to us the passage as it seemeth is stopped in divers respects The short whereof is The receiving without publick repentance of those which come from the Churches of England where because in the outward profession that the Laws of the Land do justifie the dumb ministry there appear unto you no lawful assemblies of the Church of Christ your fear is least in uniting your selves with such you should be unequally yoaked and made fellow members of some other than of that whereof Christ Jesus is the Head First therefore if it be shewed that the ordinary assemblies of those that profess the Gospel in England be the Churches of Christ it seemerh that the way will be paved and planed for mutual entercourse between us Thus therefore it seemeth to be performed Those Assemblies which have Christ for their Head and the same also for their Foundation are Gods Church But such are the Assemblies of England Ergo They are Gods Church The Assumption is evident in that by believing that Christ is our righteousness we are members of his body and thereby are lively stones laid upon him as upon a foundation and grow into one spiritual house with him Now that they have like precious faith with us is convinced not onely by their own profession but by the testimony of the Spirit of God who by manifold graces poured upon them doth bear them witness that they be members of the body of Christ who as the Head hath partaked unto them his Holy Spirit even to an apparent sanctification of numbers of them They which have performed unto them the special Covenant which the Lord hath made with his Churches by pouring his Spirit upon them and his word in their mouths are the Churches