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A54063 Some questions and answers for the opening of the eyes of the Jews natural that they may see the hope of Israel which hath so long been hid from them : with some questions and answers for the direction, comfort, help and furtherance of God's spiritual Israel in their travels in spirit from spiritual Egypt through the spiritual wilderness to spiritual Canaan ... / by Isaac Penington, the younger. Penington, Isaac, 1616-1679. 1661 (1661) Wing P1201; ESTC R28795 37,117 125

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him to a greater Wisdom Glory and Excellency than his Creator had placed him in with which he consulting out of the dependance upon his Creator fell from that which alone was able to uphold him in the pure state wherein he was made Thus was he taken in the snare of misery and brought to that loss which all the Sons of Adam lie groveling under to this day when the Lord at any time awakens the sence thereof in them Quest What was the State of man in and since the fall Answ A state of Darkness a state of Death a state of deep Captivity wherein his Soul Body and Spirit are become dark as to the Light of God dead as to the Life of Righteousness and Captive unto that spirit which hath entred them by their hearkning thereto who dwelleth and ruleth in them in the Darkness as God did before in the Light Quest How is man dark how is man dead is his Soul or body dead as to their being or how else is it Answ Man is not dead as to his being either in Soul or Body but as to the right pure and sanctified state of each The Vessels still remain the same in being but they are emptied of their proper Liquor and filled with other Wine The Understanding is the same the Reason the same the Will the same the Memory the same the bodily Members the same as to their being or matter but they are all otherwise leavened and another King now dwells in them and Reigns over them Quest Then there needs not any dissolution of man's Reason or bringing it to nothing in relation to man's Recovery but onely a changing of the Leaven Answ Man is become another thing by degeneration from the Life He is so poisoned by Sin and Corruption that he is to be wholly broken down and brought to nothing even in the very Naturals that he may be new made and built up in the newness of the Spirit Thus he is to become as a Fool as a little Child or rather as a Seed to be cast into the womb of Life there to be formed and born of the Spirit And as he springs up in the Life he is to forget his own Country living in the Spirit and walking in the Spirit where watching to the Spirit and against his own Reason in the pure Childishess in the simple instinct and naturalness of the Life he shall at length find a Reason new formed and springing up in him which waiting on the Lord in Obedience and subjection shall be taken into Unity with the Life but if the Eye of Reason open too fast and be not kept down to the Light of Life the Betrayer will enter again at that door and bring the Soul into Death after it hath had sweet and Precious Tasts of the Redeeming Vertue and Power Quest Can Man in the fall see his fallen Estate and so seek after a recovery out of it Answ It is not possible for him so to do without some Light shining upon him from the Redeemer How can Darkness discover Darkness That which maketh mamanifest the Darkness is Light When the Vessel is dark and the Prince of Darkness filleth it and dwelleth in it what can that Eye see but according to the Darkness judging Evil Good and Good Evil bitter sweet and sweet bitter Quest But there is no man but hath some Light no man but at some time or other seeth Good or Evil in some measure Answ That ariseth not from the light of Man's Nature as it now stands in the fall which being wholly in the Enemie's hands and being it self become darkness cannot at all give man notice of or light him out of the darkness but from a fresh Visitation of the Life which giveth all men a day of Visitation by the shining of its Light wherein is some manifestation to man and some certain sight by him both of the Good and of the Evil and not onely so but there is also the living Spirit striving with him and attracting him from the one to the other according to the Lord 's good pleasure whose is both the Light and also the determination of the proportion of every man's Visitation by it Quest But hath not man naturally a Light in the fallen Estate which discovereth unto him Good and Evil Answ Not a true Light not a true Discovery but onely somewhat which the Enemy setteth up in man as such to keep him in the entanglements of the Deceit and out of the suspition of it For the Enemy entring into him by his subtilty blindeth and deceiveth his Eye that he may the better hold him Captive in the deceit insomuch as he discerneth not the false Image which the Enemy hath stamped upon him for though the Enemy bringeth man into a state of real Darkness Death and Captivity yet these do not at present appear to man what they are but are miscoloured or Painted to appear what they are not the better to deceive bewitch and entangle man therein The Enemy did not represent Darkness in its Black hue Death and Captivity in its dreadful Appearance to Adam but as Wisdom as Light as a better Life as a greater Freedom And thus he still enters man and after this manner he still dwells in man until the true Light pursue him opening and discovering his Deceit and drawing man back from this false Paradise of pleasure in wisdom and liberty out of the Life into a sence of his want of and breathings after the true Garden of the living God Q. Is man then mistaken in his Judgment of Good and Evil since the fall Answ Yes altogether and by this means doth he so pleasingly scituate himself and take up his Habitation in the Kingdom of Darkness wherein are strong holds and wise reasonings against the true God and for the false Appearances of good which the Enemy of the Soul strongly makes men believe to be such as he represents them for in the darkness Thus in particular persons and also in Societies evil is pursued after and advanced for good and the true good suppressed as evil through the working of the Mystery of Darkness in mens hearts Quest What then is the proper Estate and Condition of man in the fall Answ A State of false light of false life of false liberty He seemeth to himself advanced in Wisdom above the low empty naked Estate of Innocency which is nothing and hath nothing but by a continual dependance on the Goodness of the Creator He seemeth also advanced in Life advanced in Liberty He can speak his own words think his own thoughts do his own will seek himself please himself satisfie himself The life of Righteousness is a yoak a bond in his Eye He is free from the restraint of it He hath Life in himself and is exceeding wise in the compass of his own dominions Thus doth the Enemy transform the Kingdom of Darkness and Death giving fallen Man a share with him in it while he
remains his willing Subject And here the Goods of the Enemy the Heart estranged from God yea not onely the devout and zealous Worshipper in invented Forms but also the gross Sinner the envious lustful and wicked Mind the perverse Tongue the bloody Hands and Feet are at peace and have joy and pleasure in their course and circuit in the Earth But all this is but the Deceit of the Enemy wherewith he hath cheated Man with false appearances and representations instead of the true as man himself will see when ever the Eye of his Soul comes to be throughly awakened by the Eternal Light whether here or hereafter Quest What is the Work of Redemption Answ To purge this old Leaven out of the Vessel to purifie the Vessel from all the false Appearances of Light to batter down all the strong holds of the Enemy in the Mind all the Reasonings Thoughts Imaginations and Consultations which are not of the pure nor in the pure and so to New-create and New-form the Vessel in the Image of the Wisdom and Purity wherein it was at first formed Quest Who doth this Work or who is Man's Redeemer out of the Fall Answ The Eternal Word or Son of the Father even the Wisdom and Power which went forth from the Fountain in the Creation the same goeth forth from the Bosome of the Father to purifie the Creature and so bringeth the Creature back being purified and cleansed into his bosom again Quest With what doth this Word or Redeemer redeem Answ With his own life with his own blood with his own Eternal virtue and purity He descendeth into the lower parts of the Earth becomes Flesh there sows his own Seed in his prepared Earth begets of his flesh and of his bone in his own likeness and nourisheth up his Birth with his flesh and blood unto Life Everlasting Quest What is this Life or how doth it first manifest it self in the darkness Answ It is the Light of Men. It is that which gave light to Adam at first and again to him after the Fall and to all men since the Fall It enlightens in Nature it enlightened under the Law it did enlighten under the Gospel before the Apostacy and again since the Apostacy Quest How doth the Light enlighten Ans By its shining The Eternal Word moves the Life opens the Light shines This in the least degree is a beginning of Redemption in its fulness it is Redemption perfected Quest How doth the Light work Redemption in its shining Ans Two wayes First by turning the heart from the darkness towards it self Secondly by exercising the heart being turned Quest How doth it turn the heart from the darkness Answ The Light by its shining and enlightening findeth out it s own openeth it toucheth it with a secret Virtue which perswades out of and draws the heart from the principle and power of Death and Darkness towards its own native spring Quest May not these drawings be quenched and the Work of God stopped Answ The Plant of the Lord is exceeding tender his pure Spirit jealous the Enemy very strong and subtil insomuch as the Plant it self may easily be crushed the Spirit grieved and quenched and the Captivity redoubled Quest If Adam was betrayed in his full strength how shall this poor weak Plant spring up and grow without being supplanted by the violence and treachery of the Enemy Or how shall the grieving of the Spirit be avoyded by an heart so full of corruption and provocations us man in the alienated state is when the Light first visits him Answ The Lord God is nigh to help nigh to pitty nigh to pardon nigh to watch over and support Worm Jacob yea nigh to revive life and spirit in him freely and to heal his backslidings and multiply pardons or it could never be Yea the Creature can never be brought so low or so far lost but there is still help in the nature of God concerning him though there may not be help in any revealed Promise Quest How doth God exercise the heart that is turned Ans In Faith and Obedience through very great varieties and changes of conditions He exerciseth it in believing his voyce and in obeying his voyce and following him in what ever and into whatsoever he draws and requires Quest How is the Voyce of God known Doth not the Enemy speak inwardly also and resemble his voyce how then is the voyce of the Redeemer distinguished from him who counterfeiteth the Shepherd and his voyce Ans By these two means First The Soul lying low out of the Wisdom in which the Enemy appears and forms his likenesses in the Simplicity which the Lord hath begotten the Life opens to it and the true Light appears which manifests the false light and false appearances of the Deceiver Secondly In that which is begotten of God there is not an hastiness or suddenness to determine but a silent waiting on the Lord in Subjection till the Life speak and make things manifest Thus the knowledge and light of the Child is held in the will of the Father and received from his hand and according to his pleasure Thus what he will he hides and what he will he makes manifest and the Child which is born of his will is content with his will and lying down there it keeps out of the Enemie's Territories and out of the reach of his Temptations Quest What are the several Estates or Conditions wherein God exerciseth the Spirit of man in Faith and Obedience Answ The particular Estates and Conditions are innumerable but they may be referred to these three general heads First An Estate of breaking down the former Building Secondly An Estate of Devastation or Preparation to be New-built Thirdly An Estate of Rebuilding God doth not forget but exercise his People in Egypt even while they are in Bondage before they come to receive his Law he is visiting them in the dark Land opening the Eye that can see the Captivity causing groans and sighs in their oppressed Spirits and then holding forth to them the Promise and preparing them for a departure from that Land Secondly He hath a time of stripping them of Nurturing and bringing them up under his Discipline and close exercises wherein they are Desolate and ready to Sin and perish every moment but as they are wonderfully provided for and abundantly helped and Pardoned Thirdly There is a state of rebuilding the Stones when they are prepared therefore into a New-building for the Life to dwell in and for their entrance into the Land of Life Quest Declare these Estates and the exercises therein more plainly and first shew what is the Estate of the Soul in Egypt Spiritually when the Lord visiteth it there with his Light Ans An Estate of deep Bondage and groaning under the Powers of Darkness whose bitter Oppressions thereof increase even as the sensibleness and tyredness of the Soul increases The Soul then sees its Captivity from the Life and finds a building
is given them in the Life to see with The Eye of Life is limited in man and man is to be held within the limits and openings of Life and his Heart and Mind to be bounded within the Desires and Delights which arise from the Life he is to wait on the Life for its living moving and being all in his Being and here he shall be large enough and full enough and wise enough and happy enough But there is somewhat which presents to him a Kingdom a Riches a Dominion a Vastness of Perfection in himself at his own command the which he beginning to listen unto the same opens an Eye in him to see the Beauty and Glory thereof and then Immediately his heart is taken and he cannot avoid the snare nor can he henceforth know where he is until that which he hath forsaken again please to visit him and to discover to him his Iniquity and Errour from the true Root Quest What is the way of safety when God enlargeth the Territories of Life in the Soul and causeth his Love and Grace to abound Answ To Drink the Draughts of Joy and Sweetness in the pure Fear and Trembling not departing therefrom in what ever it doth for God or receives from him till the Salvation be wholly wrought out and perfected the Habitation of unspotted Love prepared and the Soul led into and seated in its compleat Mansion therein And then the Name of Fear is no more heard of in the Land of Life though the Principle from whence the Fear sprang and the Birth and building which was begotten raised up formed and perfected in the Fear abideth for ever So that the pure Love doth not cast out the pure Fear wherein is no Bondage of the Life but the preservation of the Life from the Bondage but swallows it up and comprehends it for the pure Fear is but Love descended and the pure Love is but Fear ascended the Eternal Principle or Substance being one and the same in both Quest Is there then such a State of Safety upon which the Enemy cannot Intrench Answ There is a State of such Union with the Life as the Enemy cannot come between where there is lying down and rising up in the Power of the Life and no Beast of prey can make afraid any more nor can any Root of bitterness spring up from within to trouble or make any disturbance between the Life and the Soul any more Some Questions and Answers conducing towards the further manifestation and opening the Path of Redemption and Eternal Life to the Eye of Spiritual Israel Quest HOw doth the Son of God or Eternal Word in whom is the Light of Life Redeem man out of the fallen Estate out of the Kingdom of Darkness and Death into the Kingdom of everlasting Righteousness and Peace in the Life Answ Three wayes First by wounding him in the Natural and corrupt Estate and so breaking his Peace and Pleasure in the Kingdom of Darkness and making him weary thereof Secondly By weakening him under the Teachings and Chastizements of the Law Thirdly By healing and binding him up with the Oil of Salvation in the Power of the endless Life which is the Gospel Quest How doth God wound him in the natural and corrupt State Answ By pursuing him with his Light which letteth him see what it is discovering the Evil and Danger of it and so weaning his heart from it and making him look out after and long for a Redeemer O how Burthensome is the Captivity to the awakened Soul when he hath a glimpse of what man was before his fall when he had a place and being in the Life with a Spirit suitable to the Life and what he is now in his Estate of estrangedness and alienation from the Life and whither he is going in his Paths of unrighteousness estrangedness and alienation And while his heart is thus turning from the Land of Death and Captivity and longing after the Redeeming Power and Vertue of the Life the Enemy the Power of Darkness layes load upon him drawing him more and more under the Chains and Bonds of Iniquity to the utmost of its strength So that now Lusts abound Evils increase Temptations and Snares multiply and in the Land of Captivity their strength is great the Soul weak and faint and the Redeeming Power and Vertue seems very far off Now this is the Estate of Conversion when the Lord in the midst of the Powers of Death and Darkness turns the heart from them towards himself causing it to wait under the Captivity for the Appearance of the Arm of his strength to break the yoke of the Oppressor from off the Necks of the oppressed and so to bring out of the Land of Death and Darkness into the Travels towards the Land of Promise where the Peace the Life the Liberty in the Lord the Rest the Joy the full Content and Happiness is reaped by the Soul which follows the Lamb thither Quest How doth God weaken the Creature under the Teachings and Chastisements of the Law Answ By exercising him towards Good and Evil and correcting him for his unbelief and disobedience as he finds good just and necessary for him Quest How doth God exercise him towards Good and Evil and correct him Ans When he hath brought him from under the Power of Darkness in some measure and in some measure set the Spirit free there-from by the Vertue of his Life springing up in the heart then he exerciseth the Heart and Conversation towards the Good and from the Evil then he giveth out Laws for or against things according as he findeth most Proper to the Estate of every Particular Soul Now upon the giving forth of the Law the Life being in some measure raised there is that which loves its Teachings and pure Path and there is that also which draws back from it and that being yet strong there come many strokes and Chastisements from the Lord upon his own Dear Child And these are bitter and to be forced into the Sin which it loaths and in Heart is turned from and to be kept from the Good which it longs after in heart is United to partly by the strength of the Enemy and partly by reason of its own weakness and negligence this is bitter also insomuch as it cryeth out Day after Day and findeth this Administration of the Law almost as heavy a yoke as the Land of Captivity it self was because of the weakness of it through the Flesh and the strength and advantages which the corruption of the Heart and Prince of Darkness gather thereby Quest What is the benefit of these Exercises upon the Soul Answ They melt they break they make the Heart Tender and fit to be moulded by the Eternal Vertue and Power into a Vessel for the Power Quest What frames of Spirit do they work the Heart or Mind into Answ Into very many precious Ones As for Instance First They make the Spirit poor The daily
inroads of Sin and Corruption dashing against the Holy and Righteous Law of Life the over-bearing the strong Desires after Purity and forcing into the Defilement hindring the Soul from doing what it loves and making it to do what it hates and would not this makes it become poorer and poorer and more Afflicted Day by Day Upon some Visitations of the pure Life and some fresh Vertue received Oh how strong doth the Soul seem but when it suddenly Forfeits its Mercies loses its freshness and is Plunged deeper in the Pit than before how poor and weak doth it then feel it self Trembling at the next openings of the Life and Springings up of the Vertue thereof in it not knowing what Weakness Captivity Entanglements and Misery from the Snares of Death remain to follow Secondly They bring into a mourning Estate They fill the Eyes with Tears and the Heart with Sorrow yea they cause an entrance into the House of mourning To be accustomed to Wounds Bruises Snares grieving of the Spirit provoking of the Deliverer furthering and giving Advantages to the Enemy c. the sence of this overwhelms the Heart with grief and causeth continual Sorrow and Lamentation to that which is upright towards God Thirdly They bring into a meek merciful and Tender-hearted frame towards others He that is tempted he that often falls and is so often wounded and made miserable he pitties those that err he mourns over the miserable His heart is broken with the Sins and Afflictions of others and he knoweth not how to be hard towards them feeling such continual need of abundant mercy himself It is the rich man the sound man in Religion that is rough and hard but he that is once throughly melted in the Furnace and made up again is made up Tender and retaineth the impression of the Meekness Love and Mercy for ever Now a broken Estate in Religion or a state of waiting for the Life is much more precious than that which is rich and full by what it had formerly received and still holdeth out of the Immediate feeling and fresh Vertue of the Life Fourthly They bring into an hungry and thirsty state after Holiness and Righteousness O how the Soul that is sensible of its filth longeth to be washed how it panteth after the Pastures of Life the food of Life the living Waters to appear before and enjoy God in the Land of the living O how doth the heart that is dayly afflicted with its Unbelief and Disobedience long for the Faith that stands in the Power and the Obedience that flowes from the Power O Teach me thy Statutes shew me the pure Path of Obedience in the way of Life guide my feet in the way everlasting O write thy Fear in my Heart that I may not depart from thee Create a clean heart in me and put thy Spirit within me to be my strength O continue thy Loving-kindness to them that know thee and thy Righteousness to the upright in Heart O what unutterable Breathings dayly issue out from the broken Spirit towards the Spring of its Life Fifthly They bring into a pure frame into a cleanness of inside Cleanse first the inside of the Cup and Platter said Christ to the Pharisees and he doth so in his Disciples With the mind I serve the Law of God said Paul when he cryed out O wretched man that I am who shall deliver It is not conceiveable what purity of heart is Formed by God in his Israel by the fire which he kindleth in his Sion and by the Furnace which he setteth up in his Jerusalem for though in the Furnace the Dross still appears the sight whereof is apt to grieve and afflict the precious Heart yet the melting and purifying sweetly goes on and the Soul which abideth the heat is effectually cleansed thereby as is very manifest afterwards when Righteousness springs up with the quiet Fruit thereof but this cannot be discerned while the flames are discovering and taking hold of the Unrighteousness Sixtly They bring into a Patient Frame fit to bear Reproaches and Persecutions from the World who in the midst of all this weakness misery and distress lay load upon the Poor Soul Persecuting him whom God hath smitten and speaking to the grief of him whom God hath wounded God smites for want of Obedience for too much propensity to please the World for not coming soon enough out of their Customes Vanities Earthly wayes and Worships and so soon as the Heart and Conversation is given up in Obedience to the Lord the World is discontent and they smite and Persecute because of the Obedience Now the more the Spirit is broken by the hand of the Lord and taught thereby to fear him and the less strength it hath in it self to grapple with the Persecuting Spirit of the World the fitter it is to stand in God's Counsel to wait for his strength and preservation which is able to bear up its head above all the rage and swelling of the waters of the worldly Spirit in the men of this World Much more might be said but this may suffice What is behind will be felt inwardly as the Soul waits on God in the leadings of his Spirit through the Teachings Chastisements and Distresses of the Law Quest With what kind of things doth the Lord exercise the Spirits of his Israel to bring their hearts into these and such other like precious frames Ans With several sorts and kinds of things both outward and inward As First With oppositions reproaches and interruptions from the earthly part both in the men of this World and in themselves There is abundance within and abundance without to resist disdain and interrupt the Work of God in the heart to oppose and withstand that which he hath begotten there his leadings of it and its Obedience to him Secondly with Temptations from the Enemy even of many Kinds Natures and Degrees according to the present temper and Condition of the Soul as either to doubt and so despaire or be Confident in the Flesh from Knowledge received out of the pure Fear and fresh feeling of the Life so again either to halt and draw back or to be over-hasty and forward so likewise either not to obey and Act for God or to Act in that Will and Wisdom which is against God Now these with such like are very Numerous Frequent and sometimes very violent 〈◊〉 ●●petuous Thirdly By withdrawings o● 〈◊〉 Life and sweet presence of God 〈◊〉 the Soul These are very frequ●●● from the Lord towards his peop●● insomuch as he is called by this Title the God that hideth his face from the house of Jacob Isai 8.17 chap. 45.15 Fourthly By Buffettings and prevailings of the Enemy When the Spirit is grieved the Life wounded and withdraws inward the Enemy often gets ground giving wounds and causing Bruises to the Soul not onely tempting but finding entrance and taking in the snare the Bird which once escaped was delivered Fifthly By doubts