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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A75417	An answer to an impertinent pamphlet lately set forth by Iohn Spencer. Wherein is refuted the arguments brought for the justification of the lawfulnesse, and universall exercise of every mans gift, publike and private. By a Well-wisher to the reformation.	Well-wisher to the reformation.	1642 (1642)	Wing A3352; Thomason E135_29; ESTC R12234	28,632	35

no man knowes the things of man but the spirit of a man which is in him so nothing can reveale Gods love to the soule concerning Predestination and Sanctification but the Holy Ghost which sheds abroad the love of God in the hearts of his people and as Jesus Christ doth impart these things by his Spirit to his people so he sends his Ministers to preach the same not in the words of mans wisdome but in the demonstration of the Spirit Now I would intreat you in the next Pamphlet to tell me if there be not a large difference between the interpretation of the true and universall revealed meaning of the Holy Ghost in the sacred Scriptures as well by the understanding of the Originall and line reading pointing collation as by the Spirit himselfe And the certification of those things that concerne a mans Eternall Salvation by the same Spirit which lye hid in Gods everlasting love yet revealed in the Scriptures of which the Apostle here speaks It is true a man my run into extreames as well one way as in another And as he that is skilled in Arts and Tongues without the light of the holy Ghost cannot universally interpret apply Scripture according to the minde of Christ so a man that is destitute of skill in Arts and Tongues and hath nothing in him but that light which proceeds from Gods Spirit cannot on the other side expound according to the originall for God workes by meanes he will and doth convey his minde revealed so farre forth as men can comprehend him with the conjurison of those meanes he hath ordeined instrumentally to communicate himselfe now your selfe saith that this may be desired in those that want it besides the Apostle wishes that the Corinthians had the gifts of tongues calling it a spirituall gift now if this be a spirituall gift and ought to be desired and witout which a man cannot interpret according to that tongue in which the holy Ghost spake then God doth communicate himselfe more to him in larger measures of his revealed will by those meanes he hath ordeined and commended to that purpose then to him who is deficient in the enjoyment of those meanes by which he so conveyes himselfe and so he that is universally qualified and hath both these is fit for the vvorke of the ministery (ſ) Therefore to the end that unquiet and troublesome men should rashly thrust in themselves to teach or rule it is expresly provi●ed that no m●n should without calling take upon him a publike offic● in the Church unlesse called This we may oftentimes marke in Pa●l when hee meanes to approve his Apostleship hee doth alledge his calling if so great a Minister dare not take this upon him but by the commandement of the Lord how great shamefulnesse shall it be if any man wanting either of these shall challenge such honour to himselfe Calv. iustit pag. 522. and so is not he that is wanting in either true it is that Jesus Christ hath not greater adversaries then those that are greatly learned and unsanctified witnesse the Pharisees but yet againe he hath no greater friends and souldiers to fight his battels although vilified by the world then those who have those humane excellencies sanctified unto them to the other five answers because they are for their substance conteined in the first and are answered in that I will here passe them by and come to the next where you say All the call mentioned in Scripture was the peoples great necessitie and their great willingnesse to heare is most untrue yet to be admitted in cases extraordinary and if you had made that limitation you had done well but when your speeches are indefinite making no caution and restruction where it is required you shew your palpable ignorance for God hath prescribed other things as additionall to the calling of a Minister publikely to preach the Word besides the peoples necessitie and their owne willingnesse his orders must be observed not neglected now the peoples necessitie is to be relatively considered and so made their election but before a Minister can be compleatly fitted for the publike function of the Church hee must be ordained by the Presbytery for if none be fit for the publike function of the Ministery but men sufficiently learned as before was declared how can the people judge of his ability who have no knowledge therein And if the Apostles would not have any to execute the office of a Deacon in the Church which was a lesser and an inferior Church-officer why should those that are designed to a greater and more publike duty miss of that confirmation And (t) You should understand that the assurance of the inward calling dependeth upon the outward for albeit the Spirit of God worketh that assurance yet he worketh by the outward means by the judgement of the Elders and of the Church touching his aptnesse for the Ministery whilest he considereth that calling is not the calling of men but of God through the Ministry of men so that this separation of the knowledge of an inward calling from the outward is not only absurd but confirmes the An●baptists which boast of an inward calling where no calling of the Church went before Cart. 2. rep to Whitg 1. part p. 260 261. although a man can plead never so much his inward calling yet sent he must be as well by the Church as by God himselfe and shew if you can any person in the New or Old Testament that ever publikely Preached unlesse in extraordinary cases but he was confirmed in his calling by the Church now what necessity you can plead is somewhat hard to be understood doubtlesse there was no necessity in you so to doe when there were godly Divines and others to do it or is your necessity so great as those Christians in the 8. Acts when there were none at all but the Apostles now at the persecuted Church at Jerusalem if you object that those Ministers that did so preach did not Preach Jesus Christ purely what of that they preached him truly did they overthrow any substantiall points of Faith the Apostle Paul notwithstanding did rejoyce when some preach Christ out of envy so although they preached him not purely yet they preached him truly To the next Spenc. That it may be lawfull in a mans family but not in a Church Answ And so it may be lawfull in a mans family but not in a Church For as there is no member of the body of Jesus Christ but is of the same nature of the whole a publike member of a publike body and the spirit proceeding from the head to every member is one and the same spirit and his gifts of like nature publike gifts of a publike spirit for the good of the whole body and so though they be members of one body and are to be assistant one to another in that body yet can these members performe the duties of each other indeed in the generall

braine and at length produces many exorbitant and giddy deviations from the sobriety and analogy of true Religion M. Bolton as a Learned Divine speakes this is that zeale which requires just censure and sound conviction What shall I say I onely wish that the God of heaven who hath all power in his hands and knowes the hearts of all men would bridle the outragiousnesse of his enemies and cure the errors of his owne people that we might all with one heait and one soule willingly submit to the Scepter of his deare Sonne endeavouring to keepe the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace c. AN ANSVVER TO A BOOK LATELY SET forth by IOHN SPENCER SPENCER THat there is no private gifts nor private Christians that we reade of in Scripture ANSVVER THat this is otherwise may easily appeare for some actions are private and some are also publique and againe some persons are private and some are publique and so it followeth that some actions proceeding from men as private their actions are private also private actions have reference to private men and men are private in respect of their conditions and callings God hath set them in and private men may sometimes performe publique actions being by authority called thereunto and this may not only hold in the Civill State but in the Ecclesiastique for Jesus Christ hath lest Offices and Officers in his Church and those designed to particular places This appeares manifestly as may bee seene in Scripture To set downe one instance in Acts 6. ver 1 2. The Grecians complaining that their Widdowes were neglected the Apostles to remedy it called the multitude together and wished them to looke out so many men full of the holy Glasts to be apponted for this businesse Now there is no man will deny but that this act was divine if so and that none could performe these actions but those who were publiquely ordained to that purpose then it follows That those men who were full of the holy Ghrst by a divine ordinance were appointed to doe such Offices in the Church not onely as they were Christians and so had a spirituall sufficiency to performs those duties but beene private men were now publikely ordained to execute that which they were called to But it is worth while to consider what you understand by pivate Christians and private Spirits for if you meane that every Christians gifts are not for private use but publike and in that respect to doe service to the whole and so generally to be assistant according to those gifts given him then your speech is true and so there is no Christian whatsoever that is a true member of Jesus Christ but hath a duty lying upon them to help to edifie the body in his place but if by private Christians and private gifts you understand that there are none such because that every one that hath gifts from the head may doe and performe 〈◊〉 Office in the Church which is onely properly and peculiatly attributed to some and so not to be differenced out of any particular Office from him that is specially called to a certaine Office then your speech is untrue and tends the high-way to Anabaptisme besides your selfe tells us that in respect of Congregated bodies the more part are out of office now if the more part in this respect be out of office then they that are out of office cannot performe the duties of them that are in office for what doth the word Office import but onely a calling to and a performing of certaine duties that pertain either to the civill State or the Church and none can perform these duties but only those that are designed thereunto and if there be these differences in those that are in office and those that are out of office I would know of you upon what ground you can affirme that there are no private gifts nor private Christians if in the first sense you acknowledge it it is granted to you if in the second sence which you must assent to or else you do but dally then shew us better proofes then these or else coase to be so universall in your conclusions untill the premisses be better for every member that is out of office may be sayd to have private gifts and private spirits because they are not to execute and performe those actions in a publike way which others may but in private as Vrsinus writes Furthermore in things pertaining to the Church and as every member stands in relation one to another and are members of that head from whom they receive life so there is distinctions of these members in their severall operations The Apostle in 1 Cor. 12.4 sayes that there are diversities of gifts flowing from one and the same spirit and although he doth diffuse severall gifts to those members for a mutuall benefit and to profit withall vers 7. yet these gifts that are thus given and the persons to whom they are given are to be differenced in their proper operations for the gifts make the members and not the members the gifts and to this purpose the Apostle speakes very pertinently are all Apostles are all Prophets have all the gift of tongues doe all prophesie c. Hence then it followes that as some gifts consist in the performance of some things and some of other things so also those persons in whom those gifts are are to be differenced likewise and this the Apostle doth clearely intimate in 1 Cor. 12. for speaking of the gifts of the Spirit and their diversities of operations vers 6. he proceeds by way of comparison that as in naturall bodies one member cannot performe the office of another and the distinctions of their operations in the body so also Christ Jesus being the head of the spirituall body hee hath communicated severall gifts to severall members and hath designed certaine peculiar offices to some of those members now not onely the severall gifts but also the severall functions in the body Ecclesiastick proceed from Jesus Christ and therefore the Apostle sayes vers 28. And God hath set some in the Church first Apostles secondly Prophets thirdly Teachers c. and although in the generall the gifts may concurre in one man yet there are some particulars affirmed of one which cannot be spoken of another and therefore the Apostle againe vers 29. Are all Apostles are all Prophets are all Teachers c. but you say these (a) For as a man a beast being both living things are severed one from another by their several properties and speciall differences as they be called of the Logicians even so Apostles Prophets Evangelists Pastors and Doctors being all Preachers of the Gospell are severed by that wherein they differ one from another and as he can be no man which have none of these differences wherby a man is severed from living things so he cannot be Prophet or Apostle which hath nothing whereby hee may differ from a Pastor Doctor or